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JediJohnnie

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Re: Can you really be born evil?
« Reply #90 on: December 05, 2018, 01:20:37 pm »
I dont expect everyone to understand this...if 1 does it was worth putting up.

Once a person is saved, is he always saved?

Jude 5, RS: “I desire to remind you, though you were once for all fully informed, that he who saved a people out of the land of Egypt, afterward destroyed those who did not believe.” (Italics added.)

Matt. 24:13, RS: “He who endures to the end will be saved.” (So a person’s final salvation is not determined at the moment that he begins to put faith in Jesus.)

Phil. 2:12, RS: “As you have always obeyed, so now, not only as in my presence but much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling.” (This was addressed to “the saints,” or holy ones, at Philippi, as stated in Philippians 1:1. Paul urged them not to be overly confident but to realize that their final salvation was not yet assured.)

Once you believe in Christ (the REAL Christ of the bible, of course) you pass from Death to Life. No one can *steal* you from God's Hand.

Of course, some have only "said faith" not real faith and they are the ones who fall away under various conditions. As Christ explained in the parable of the seed in Mark 4.
“Faith, if it does not have works, is dead in itself.”​—JAMES 2:17.

You and many others support a world with Satan as its god.The bible is clear on that and the conditions here back it up.And then you and others that are blinded say you are saved?

James 4:4 New International Version
You adulterous people, don't you know that friendship with the world means enmity against God? Therefore, anyone who chooses to be a friend of the world becomes an enemy of God.

Jesus said most important commandment was to love God.How does 1 say they love someone if they cant even say THEIR name?There is only 1 other FC member here that i am convinced that knows what Gods name is.

Satan is called the god of the world, because the world at large hasn't yet acknowledged Christ as King. It has nothing to do with everybody EXCEPT the Jehovah Witnesses being satan worshippers.

And as we've gone over a million times, one does NOT have to address God as JEHOVAH to be saved. Nowhere is that commanded. You guys have made that name the Idol which you have falsely worshipped on.   

Accepting Jesus Christ as the Atonement for the forgiveness of our sins and confessing Him as Lord & Savior is the only requirement to be saved.
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Re: Can you really be born evil?
« Reply #91 on: December 05, 2018, 02:38:06 pm »
I don't know whether some people who commit crimes (particularly violent ones) have "evil genes" or not, but even if they do, I think everyone should be given the chance to grow up as best as possible and then see later if they turn out to be criminals. Maybe a good environment will temper at least some with "evil genes" so that they never end up actually doing harm to others.

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Re: Can you really be born evil?
« Reply #92 on: December 05, 2018, 04:08:27 pm »
Re hell.....Why isnt Satan in a fiery hell and his angels that followed him?

Through-out the bilbe we see he is NOT only on earth but he is in heaven...until in 1914 he gets removed as Book of Revelation tells us with his horde and confined to earth and the woe begins starting with first WW!

Bible even speaks of Jesus being in hell.hades.sheol.Those meaning common grave for mankind.

A  good tree produces fine fruit.A rotten tree produces rotten fruit.Its the same way with many teachings in this world.Those with the right heart condition towards Jehovah will recognize them.Satan has blinded the minds of the un-believers.
So Satan only got cast out of heaven when the JWs became organised in 1914? lol This is cult theology 101. lol
The bible students as they were called before beings called JWs were organized long before 1914.1914 was the date they pointed to that Gods kingdom was to start ruling from heaven and Satan and his angels were tossed out.YOU said the JWs were organized in 1914.Pay attn!

Pretty easy to see the woe that started in 1914 starting with WW I when Satan and his angels confined to earth.

Youd rather disagree then look up the answers to this cos your mind is already corrupted by what your Babylonish teachings spew.JW.org as a reminder.

You absolutely dont get it.Jesus said to love your enemies.Peter wasnt being attacked that he needed to draw his sword.That is backed up by what Jesus says afterward.If you had the RIGHT heart condition you might understand.You dont thats why you see as you see it and NOT as how God views it.

It really shows how blind UR.In 1 of ur earlier post you said Jesus supports Peters defense.You silly fool....then why does he say what will happen to all who draw the sword?

Stick to Star Trek...the bible ISNT fantasy world
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Re: Can you really be born evil?
« Reply #93 on: December 05, 2018, 04:12:06 pm »
I dont expect everyone to understand this...if 1 does it was worth putting up.

Once a person is saved, is he always saved?

Jude 5, RS: “I desire to remind you, though you were once for all fully informed, that he who saved a people out of the land of Egypt, afterward destroyed those who did not believe.” (Italics added.)

Matt. 24:13, RS: “He who endures to the end will be saved.” (So a person’s final salvation is not determined at the moment that he begins to put faith in Jesus.)

Phil. 2:12, RS: “As you have always obeyed, so now, not only as in my presence but much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling.” (This was addressed to “the saints,” or holy ones, at Philippi, as stated in Philippians 1:1. Paul urged them not to be overly confident but to realize that their final salvation was not yet assured.)

Once you believe in Christ (the REAL Christ of the bible, of course) you pass from Death to Life. No one can *steal* you from God's Hand.

Of course, some have only "said faith" not real faith and they are the ones who fall away under various conditions. As Christ explained in the parable of the seed in Mark 4.
“Faith, if it does not have works, is dead in itself.”​—JAMES 2:17.

You and many others support a world with Satan as its god.The bible is clear on that and the conditions here back it up.And then you and others that are blinded say you are saved?

James 4:4 New International Version
You adulterous people, don't you know that friendship with the world means enmity against God? Therefore, anyone who chooses to be a friend of the world becomes an enemy of God.

Jesus said most important commandment was to love God.How does 1 say they love someone if they cant even say THEIR name?There is only 1 other FC member here that i am convinced that knows what Gods name is.

Satan is called the god of the world, because the world at large hasn't yet acknowledged Christ as King. It has nothing to do with everybody EXCEPT the Jehovah Witnesses being satan worshippers.

And as we've gone over a million times, one does NOT have to address God as JEHOVAH to be saved. Nowhere is that commanded. You guys have made that name the Idol which you have falsely worshipped on.   

Accepting Jesus Christ as the Atonement for the forgiveness of our sins and confessing Him as Lord & Savior is the only requirement to be saved.
KJV Psalms 83:18 tells us what Gods name is!Try looking it up and if u wanna disagree with KJV thats your decision.

Jesus speaks of Satan being the ruler of this world and being offered all the kingdoms if Jesus would do an act of worship to Satan.How blind can u be?

 “You must not take up the name of Jehovah your God in a worthless way, for Jehovah will not leave unpunished the one who takes up His name in a worthless way.” —Exodus 20:7.
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Re: Can you really be born evil?
« Reply #94 on: December 05, 2018, 04:29:52 pm »
You will get your chance to show what god you support and how you feel about Jehovah.The whole world will.There are only 2 choices.Satan controls all the other false gods and opposes Jehovah so its EZ to see who you support.

He that is not with me scatters said Jesus who had no problem using Gods name.Bible said Jesus had made his name known the only TRUE God and the one u sent in Jesus Christ.

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Re: Can you really be born evil?
« Reply #95 on: December 05, 2018, 04:59:19 pm »
Even after Jesus proved beyond a doubt he was Gods son many still reviled him.We are warned in this Satanice world the devil will bring pressure to Gods people.Go read what is happening in Russia NOW

Jesus said to be prepared to pick up your torture stake.If they did it to him they will do it to his followers.You read the bible you will see examples and they are for our benefit.

We havent seen even the tip of the iceberg yet.Just wait till governments destroy babylon the Great <false empire of Christendom>The beginning of Tribulation that has not been seen and if God didnt cut it short no flesh would be saved.

But Jehovah is TRUE to those that love him and earnestly seek HIM and the days will be cut short for those survivors.

And to many faithful that have passed or pass away during The Tribulation Jehovah has an endless memory and he will resurrect them in 1000 yr rein of Jesus while Satan and his hords are abyssed


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Re: Can you really be born evil?
« Reply #96 on: December 05, 2018, 05:06:07 pm »
Now if you want a debate why dont you contact ControversialGirl.She will gladly give you 1.

She did me a favor by blocking me she said.You can feel free to do the same if the JWS views bother u.We have nothing in common RE bible teachings.If u wanna discuss NFL,baseball etc i have no prob with it.

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Re: Can you really be born evil?
« Reply #97 on: December 05, 2018, 05:15:21 pm »
1 last comment you made to prove you are in need of a bible study Re Gods name......

“Take Refuge in the Name of Jehovah”

“I shall certainly let remain . . . a people humble and lowly, and they will actually take refuge in the name of Jehovah.”​—ZEPH. 3:12.

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Re: Can you really be born evil?
« Reply #98 on: December 05, 2018, 05:46:33 pm »
BTW The Bible student movement started in 1881...

Where u came up with in 1914 proves how very little u know...but im not surprised i have seen it 10 fold over these discussions.

But again new members coming in all the time and others reading...as i always say if 1 gets it it was worth putting up.

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Re: Can you really be born evil?
« Reply #99 on: December 06, 2018, 02:38:37 pm »
The fact Jesus healed the roman soldiers ear after Peter drew his sword backs up his view on loving our enemies.

He asked his father to forgive them as he died on the stake.Dont give me this *rap about Jesus supporting weapons.Peter failed the test thats why he scolded him.

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Re: Can you really be born evil?
« Reply #100 on: December 06, 2018, 03:16:06 pm »
 ???  I believe that everything is learned, not born with.

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Re: Can you really be born evil?
« Reply #101 on: December 07, 2018, 07:26:55 am »
not really the devil just got people doing crazy things and is not good >:( >:( >:(

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Re: Can you really be born evil?
« Reply #102 on: December 07, 2018, 07:58:32 pm »
Hello! :D :)

What it all comes down is to choices and decisions. The devil can't control you without your permission. :heart: :rose: :heart: :rose: :heart: :rose: :heart: :rose: :heart: :rose: :heart: :rose: :heart: :rose: :heart: :rose: :heart: :rose: :heart: :rose: :heart: :rose: :heart: :rose:
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Re: Can you really be born evil?
« Reply #103 on: December 07, 2018, 09:30:14 pm »
we all have a good self and an evil one. just evil is in anotha dimension or universe.

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Re: Can you really be born evil?
« Reply #104 on: December 07, 2018, 09:57:04 pm »
Hello! :D :)

What it all comes down is to choices and decisions. The devil can't control you without your permission. :heart: :rose: :heart: :rose: :heart: :rose: :heart: :rose: :heart: :rose: :heart: :rose: :heart: :rose: :heart: :rose: :heart: :rose: :heart: :rose: :heart: :rose: :heart: :rose:
Yes that is true.But the bible says he transforms himself into an angel of light.IOW make the situation tempting so we bite.

He tempted Jesus 3X before Jesus went out to his ministry.He told him to take a hike everytime.But with Eve he not only lied by telling her she wouldnt die if she disobeyed but they would be better off independent of Gods rules and decide for themselves what was good and bad.

Doomed the human race because they brought death and i dont think i have to tell you how successful man has been without Gods rulership.Thats the answer to the question why God has allowed evil to prevail for a little while in his eyes.Remember 1 day to him is like 1000 of our yrs.

Satan has blinded many using religeon.So u say the devil needs our permission but he sweetens the pot so many bite.Jehovah has NOTHING to do with Babylon the Great <false religeon>...He warns us to GET OUT of her before his anger annihilates her.Rightly so.The lies and the doctrines of Satan and man that are supposed to represent the bible and DONT!


ALL of us have a decision whos rulership we will accept.One could relate to everlasting life the other to everlasting judgment.

Math 7:13New International Version
"Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it.

That scripture tells us more will reject Jehovah as rightful ruler.He has the right to set the standards cos he is the CREATOR of life and the universe.He forces no one against their will to serve HIM.And by sending Jesus to the earth to represent him and ransom the life Adam threw away by dying.

Perfect sinless life for perfect life Adam threw away.IOW eye for eye.

What it came down to is God knew some of the human race would love him and rather have his rulership after Adam sinned.Thats why he immediately put a plan in place as he said after he spoke to the serpent in Eden.

DO YOU recall the first Bible prophecy? It was uttered by Jehovah God when he said to the Serpent: “I shall put enmity between you and the woman and between your seed and her seed. He will bruise you in the head and you will bruise him in the heel.” (Genesis 3:15)

Its true Satan bruised Jesus in the heel...but God resurrected Jesus to immortal life.A bruise to the head is FINAL.Thats what Jesus will do to Satan.Finish it and put him out of existence with his seed.
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