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babypolotb

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Re: Do you think you USA is coming to a end?
« Reply #15 on: October 10, 2009, 10:45:06 am »
we have to stop being negative and believe that everything will be taken care of.

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Re: Do you think you USA is coming to a end?
« Reply #16 on: October 10, 2009, 10:46:05 am »
we have to believe in the president that he is trying to fix the mistakes from the last presidency.

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Re: Do you think you USA is coming to a end?
« Reply #17 on: October 10, 2009, 12:16:34 pm »
we have to stop being negative and believe that everything will be taken care of.

Belief is of no use in reality.  It requires action, and action by the citizens -- the entity that is the nation and is the government.  Things don't just "work out" without solid, organized action.

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Re: Do you think you USA is coming to a end?
« Reply #18 on: October 10, 2009, 12:50:41 pm »
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Do you think you USA is coming to  a end?

Logic dictates that we still have states that are united within America, so...no. It's not coming to an end.

Why are people bringing up religion in this thread? The answer is simple.

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Re: Do you think you USA is coming to a end?
« Reply #19 on: October 10, 2009, 01:53:21 pm »
I love how people say "be proud, that people get brutally killed and blown to pieces so you can have a wonderful life" Sorry, I am not proud of the Human Race and never will be until wars,murder,racism,molesting,rape,people eating animals....etc STOP!!
I am not proud to be a part of this Hell, but I am and it wasn't my choice, I didn't ask for life, I simply am just alive because someone brought me into the world.
Looking around at the world, I sometimes have to stop and think is all this worth it, is it worth bringing other people into the world? A lot of times the answer is NO.
I am very confused at how humans live their lives and think it is okay. I mean people die, die very horrible deaths for Americans to be so called "Free" I will never be proud of that, and will always just wonder why life has to be like this. I'm not happy about this "sacrifice" it is awful. That is one reason why I don't want children. I don't want my son to go thru hell so everyone else can sit back and reap the benefit.
I wish life was different, I wish humans were so advanced that we acted like Angels and behaved like Angels.

angel - a supernatural being
supernatural - miraculous, divine
miraculous - of the nature of a miracle
divine - godlike

I just deal with life since it was given to me but no that is nothing in my opinion to be proud of


How do you know your going to have a son?(if you have a kid that is) and btw your human too :,D you people crack me up, and hey I love eating meat ._.

If this place end then it does so , we can only try to help were we can and deal with the changes <3

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Re: Do you think you USA is coming to a end?
« Reply #20 on: October 10, 2009, 03:35:02 pm »
Nothing lasts forever.  No nation is on top forever.  Look at the Roman empire, what are they doing now?  The US has not been #1 in a lot of categories for a while.  It may still be around but it won't be as powerful as it once was.

Actually the largest army is not always the one which exists the longest. For example what good is an army when your country is radioactive? Things have changed much since the days of fighting with swords or even guns and missiles, now is the ability to destroy the land in long term. The cold war taught us that the size of armies are no longer as important as the threat of mass destruction.

Not to mention that we have US troops working for the UN, and we have UN troops on US soil...

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I myself am a marine wife and i don't see this nation coming to an end anytime soon. But with Obama in office we are gonna have some problems. I mean he just got a dang Noble Peace Prize and he hasn't done ANYTHING. It's people that think he is a freaking King that are ruining this country. Yes he is the first black president but i think it is funny they have yet to show us his birth certificate or that he is even a American Born citizen (being that is the only way to be president). I saw a clip on the news the other day where children where singing praise songs to him. Our country is definitely in some trouble but I don't think that it will end. I am just afraid that Obama is gonna go way to far with this and we are gonna have another JFK incident.

As for the huge military spending...that money has gone to other countries not us. My husband is a mechanic in the Marines and their budget for his shop for a quarter is less than a cost of an engine. In one week they spend more than their budget. And you should be proud to live in this country where we are free and we have people SACRIFICE their lives so that we and our children can live a great life..

The money does NOT go to other countries for military spending, Military spending is for MILITARY spending, it does not include aid to other countries etc. The only way it goes to other countries is because we are always at war IN other countries. I agree that the men on the ground get the least of the money though and are often stuck fighting in Vietnam war era flac jackets due to the lack of accountability in the military and their accounting. They lost 2 trillion dollars in 2001... LOST it... then how many times have they been caught buying 20,000$ toilet seats? Cooking the books I think they call it...  The money mostly ALL gets funneled directly to haliburton and blackwater etc. So private soldiers get HUGE pay increases and bonus's while those enlisted suffer.  Then even haliburton overcharges the marines and other soldiers for their crappy food.

reminds me of the movie "IRAQ for Sale"

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I don't have to show anybody my Birth Certificate!!

You do if you want a job... its mandatory ever since right after 9/11. I cant recall what the form is called, but anyone who got a job recently should know... it needs 3 forms of identification and gives you a list. Passport or birth certificate is one. As for needing his birth certificate, I find it strange the amount of money he spent to keep it secret... super strange, but I think its not as important as him doubling the troops in Afghanistan after promises to bring troops home...

I think the news just focuses on the birth certificate, because they do EVERYTHING they can to prove that anyone who opposes Obama's ideas are just racist. Everyone who is not racist loves Obama. haha, they do that at those Tea Parties too. they see hundreds of people, lawyers, private citizens, etc. all claiming they don't like the bailouts, or healthcare (depending on the rally) and the news will find one hick and do everything they can to make him look racist or maybe even find a real racist, and do all they can to prove that the entire rally is just racist. They do not ever try to get their message across, just marginalize and discount the entire rally as racist or ignorant children. Or people afraid of the word "socialism" etc. its the same tactic used when Bush was in office that claimed anyone who was against Bush was anti-American.

That's the difference between democrats and republicans... One says "your Un-American, your too liberal, you sympathize with terrorists" and the other says "your a bad man, you don't care about others, your racist" but both of them actually listen to what you say, or actually act on behalf of the people.. both boost up the number of troops dying for money on foreign soil while leaving our own soil unprotected and bankrupt.

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Re: Do you think you USA is coming to a end?
« Reply #21 on: October 10, 2009, 04:28:23 pm »
Yes he is the first black president but i think it is funny they have yet to show us his birth certificate or that he is even a American Born citizen (being that is the only way to be president).

His birth certificate has been plainly posted on the Internet for anyone who wishes to see it.  Do some research for yourself, stop listening to everything Fox News says.

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I saw a clip on the news the other day where children where singing praise songs to him.

The children were singing songs about numerous past US Presidents in addition to the song about Obama.  Do you have a problem with them also singing songs about Lincoln or Washington?  Why not?  Because Fox News talking points didn't say anything about that, did they?  Why not?

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Re: Do you think you USA is coming to a end?
« Reply #22 on: October 10, 2009, 04:39:39 pm »
We shall see. but I think we will never see America like it use to be... I mean the change people were thinking is not the change they thought they would get. In a nut shell they been fooled.. you will see change....  for those who wanted change, you will see it... but it again... it want be nothing close to what you were thinking about            ... enough said  period!!!

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Re: Do you think you USA is coming to a end?
« Reply #23 on: October 10, 2009, 05:49:36 pm »
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They do not ever try to get their message across, just marginalize and discount the entire rally as racist or ignorant children. Or people afraid of the word "socialism" etc. its the same tactic used when Bush was in office that claimed anyone who was against Bush was anti-American.

This is why I love the internet so much-- you get so many news stories from so many sources that you're left with making your OWN opinion rather than just shoving Fox news' story into your head. I always got a kick out of Bush's "you're either with us or you're against us" speech as those words in themselves are superiorly anti-american.

"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but morally treasonable to the American public"   -Theodore Roosevelt

"What luck for the leaders when men do not think" - Adolf Hitler

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Re: Do you think you USA is coming to a end?
« Reply #24 on: October 10, 2009, 07:23:35 pm »
i have no idea :BangHead:

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Re: Do you think you USA is coming to a end?
« Reply #25 on: October 11, 2009, 12:23:27 am »
No nation lasts forever. Take a look at all of the ones tht have fallen. Unless things turn around for us soon, we will see it fall down around our ears.

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Re: Do you think you USA is coming to a end?
« Reply #26 on: October 11, 2009, 09:38:18 am »
Lets just set back and see what China has planned for us! And yes our Freedom went down the drain a LONG time ago. Do some research on what freedom in the USA stands for and then see and realize how much of our freedom really does not exist any longer.

liljp617

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Re: Do you think you USA is coming to a end?
« Reply #27 on: October 11, 2009, 03:27:31 pm »
Lets just set back and see what China has planned for us!

Why?

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And yes our Freedom went down the drain a LONG time ago. Do some research on what freedom in the USA stands for and then see and realize how much of our freedom really does not exist any longer.

Why don't you tell us or simply link us to something that makes these comparisons.

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Re: Do you think you USA is coming to a end?
« Reply #28 on: October 11, 2009, 04:03:03 pm »
The thing I find most interesting in conversations is that most people believe we are a democracy when the truth is we are a republic...

There is a difference.

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Re: Do you think you USA is coming to a end?
« Reply #29 on: October 11, 2009, 08:31:56 pm »
The thing I find most interesting in conversations is that most people believe we are a democracy when the truth is we are a republic...

There is a difference.

The funny thing about that is most people who tout the "go democracy!" relentlessly would despise living in a true democracy.

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