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Mizzkizz7

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Abortion Ban
« on: May 28, 2019, 03:01:52 pm »
There has been a lot in the news about this subject. Some are pro-life and some are pro-choice. I'm pro-choice. Most may not agree but I would like to get other opinions.
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Re: Abortion Ban
« Reply #1 on: May 29, 2019, 03:41:09 pm »
I think that the supreme court should take a next look at ROE V WADE, and settle this once and for all....

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Re: Abortion Ban
« Reply #2 on: June 03, 2019, 08:38:06 am »
I think that the supreme court should take a next look at ROE V WADE, and settle this once and for all....


The problem is that it will never be settled once and for all until the end of time. I have my own opinions on the topic and (do my best to) try to respect opposing views... but taking a second look at Roe v. Wade and even reversing that decision is not going to settle the matter.  It will continue to be debated and will continue to be highly contested regardless of which side you are on and regardless of the (ever changing) breakdown of the Supreme Court.


Just like Congress and the White House, the pendulum swings back and forth. Granted, on the Supreme Court, it swings much more slowly. But even if it takes 200 years - if Roe V. Wade is reversed (I personally don't believe it will be changed in my lifetime), you can bet at some point in the future when enough liberal justices are back on the bench = it will be addressed again.

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Re: Abortion Ban
« Reply #3 on: June 03, 2019, 05:39:13 pm »
There has been a lot in the news about this subject. Some are pro-life and some are pro-choice. I'm pro-choice. Most may not agree but I would like to get other opinions.

It's murder in the womb and infanticide after birth. That little person from conception is not an insignificant part of its mother; it's a separate entity called a baby in the mother's womb which should be the safest place on earth for it. Fetus, embryo, products of conception, clump of cells are all words/phrases meant to dehumanize the unborn which renders them no longer entitled to human rights such as those provided for in the Constitution, i.e., life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.That's my opinion as per your request. I've never considered murdering an innocent life "pro-choice." It is called abortion which is murder.

Definition: a·bor·tion

noun
1.
the deliberate termination of a human pregnancy, most often performed during the first 28 weeks of pregnancy.

There you go; that's my opinion and has been for some time. I've heard all the arguments for and against and I haven't wavered one iota. I can respect your opinion because you must have your reasons. Have you seen the movie "Unplanned?"

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Re: Abortion Ban
« Reply #4 on: June 05, 2019, 06:18:05 am »
Have you seen the movie "Unplanned?"


I would challenge any pro-choice person to watch that movie. Most will dismiss it as fanatical propaganda (which it is not, but it was certainly portrayed that way by the media and pro-abortion groups) and use that as an excuse to not watch it.  But if you are 100% confident in your position, watching this movie shouldn't shake your conviction...


... or might it?  Maybe that is the fear of those in favor of abortion - they may be afraid that if they saw something that made them rethink their position, they might be talked into changing their mind.


As a pro-life advocate, I am 100% willing to watch any pro-abortion movie, story, documentary, whatever. Even though they are the extreme low percentage of abortion circumstances, I welcome the chance to see the true stories of those who got an abortion after rape or incest pregnancies or high health risk pregnancies.  I know that it is a difficult choice and I feel for those who live the awful reality of having to face that choice.  I am also 100% confident that seeing such a story would not change my position on the abortion issue. But I am willing to listen to the story and the aftermath.


I could be (and hope I am) wrong, but I believe that the reverse position is not true. Very few pro-abortion activists would be willing to watch Abby Johnson's story or Norma McCorvey's story. It really is a shame.




Unrelated, but similar -- in my younger days I was very much in favor of the death penalty when I heard about horrific acts that some evil people committed.  Until I met Sr. Helen Prejean and heard her talk.  And then I watched the movie Dead Man Walking with Susan Sarandon and Sean Penn. Like Unplanned it portrayed the true story of a real person (Sr. Helen) and her personal experience with a controversial topic.


She allowed me to see the truth that all people are precious - even the evil ones.  All human life is precious from the point of conception to the point of natural death. We are not God. We do not have the right to take any life (self defense excepted).


They are difficult topics, no doubt. There will always be debate. But we don't have to hate each other for having alternate viewpoints. I think that sometimes is even more challenging than the underlying issues.

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Re: Abortion Ban
« Reply #5 on: June 05, 2019, 09:09:22 am »
I think some states are making it too strict now. I don't believe a baby has a heartbeat before 12 weeks. That's what  I've read for years. So the 6- or 8-week ban is a little too early.  I know the one state (MS or AL)  is doing it to bring it up to the Supreme Court so they make the decision once and for all.

I don't believe Roe v. Wade should be totally overturned, but I don't believe abortion should be used as a means of birth control and just because a baby is conceived in a woman's body, it  shouldn't be just her decision to make. It takes two to conceive and should take two to make the decision of life or death. Even a murderer has a jury of 12 to decide life or death. 

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Re: Abortion Ban
« Reply #6 on: June 06, 2019, 09:53:39 am »
Abortion is murder of the unborn. It's pure and simple. Thankfully, it does seem like there is some movement to stop it lately. Probably because Trump is unafraid of the Left (honestly, what more could they say or do to him at this point?) and the Dems are showing themselves to be cray cray on the issue and normies are seeing just how far they've gone. (Now you can have abortions outside the womb? When does it end?)

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Re: Abortion Ban
« Reply #7 on: June 07, 2019, 11:40:10 pm »
I'm pro abortion.  For all these people who are going to force a woman to keep a baby she doesn't want or can't take care of why don't you adopt those kids.

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Re: Abortion Ban
« Reply #8 on: June 08, 2019, 03:49:43 pm »
Banning abortions won't stop women from having them.  The bans are a futile effort, and a waste of taxpayer time and money.

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Re: Abortion Ban
« Reply #9 on: June 08, 2019, 03:52:32 pm »
Next time you think about banning Abortion you just remember all those homeless people you don't look at and all the sections of the city you are afraid to go too.

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Re: Abortion Ban
« Reply #10 on: June 08, 2019, 04:21:35 pm »
I guess if the government can send soldiers to die in wars that are a joke and against what Jesus taught,why should they be concerned if they kill a fetus?

Thats them.....NOT ME!!I know how God feels about it.

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Re: Abortion Ban
« Reply #11 on: June 10, 2019, 02:21:02 pm »
I am pro-choice I believe a woman should have the right to decide what she does with her body and no one else should have the right to tell her.
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Re: Abortion Ban
« Reply #12 on: June 13, 2019, 03:58:38 pm »
I am pro-choice I believe a woman should have the right to decide what she does with her body and no one else should have the right to tell her.

I am curious to know why you think the baby is actually a part of the mother's body. Can you elaborate on that? Babies are not tumors or cancers to be cut off for the mother's health.

A woman's "choice", as you put it, is whether to carry the baby she conceived (with some help) in her body, or not allow him/her to live. It is a selfish act that is done for convenience.

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Re: Abortion Ban
« Reply #13 on: June 13, 2019, 04:02:03 pm »
I'm pro abortion.  For all these people who are going to force a woman to keep a baby she doesn't want or can't take care of why don't you adopt those kids.

How can they be adopted if they are murdered before they are born? Do you have a solution to that?

Even if what you say was true (that there's no one to care for them), why do you want to opt to kill them instead of allowing them to be born. Does that seem helpful?

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Re: Abortion Ban
« Reply #14 on: June 13, 2019, 04:06:37 pm »
while I am not totally against abortion I think there needs to be some restrictions.

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