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countrygirl12

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Re: Really Sad
« Reply #15 on: May 31, 2019, 09:34:15 am »
I agree women should have the choice.

You agree with who?  I did not say women should be able to kill her child.  She does have a choice.  It is called not having s-x or using protection. Not just I will kill the baby if I get pregnant.  And I will stomp you in the ground and shame you til death if you leave your dog chained in the yard.

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Re: Really Sad
« Reply #16 on: May 31, 2019, 09:37:43 am »
I'm fine with a woman having bodily autonomy. I won't argue about the "but it's not your body" thing. Agree to disagree.

Even the states that have recently introduced the heartbeat bill are being told by local prosecutors that they won't do anything due to Roe v. Wade - so essentially their bill did nothing due to the constitution.

For myself, I probably wouldn't get an abortion unless it was medically necessary. But I'm not going to let my PERSONAL decisions effect someone else and their decisions. We need proper sex education in the US, it's been proven to lower abortion rates. Instead, we take away sex education and expect women to "close their legs", even though it takes two to create a baby. Preventative care is necessary to avoid abortions (obviously with the exception of medical issues and rape) - I wish it were less taboo to talk about.

lol.  Sex education is not the problem.  These stupid women know what causes pregnancy.  I remember a s-x education lass in about the 5th grade and again in the 8th grade.

There are many states that have made it illegal to get an abortion and roe vs wade cannot stop it.  But it really doesn't matter what laws say - It matters what God says.  And these women are going to stand before Him one day.

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Re: Really Sad
« Reply #17 on: May 31, 2019, 09:40:16 am »
I think our country has hit the lowest of lows.  I think it is the most sad thing in the world when people are more upset over an animal being killed than women murdering their children.

*A woman tosses puppies in the dumpster and the internet comes unglued.

*A local woman killed a rattle snake that struck at her in her own yard and she was fined.

*A woman had in her will when she died her dog was to be euthanized and buried with her and people are having a fit.

*Somebody sees a dog chained up in a yard and they are trying to get the owner put in jail.

And the list goes on and on.  But let a woman say "my body my choice" and MURDER her child.  And the same people are totally fine with that.  I don't know how much longer God is going to put up with this non-sense.



Hello!

I don't think we should prioritize life. A life of an animal is no less important than the life of a human we all contribute to the world more or less. As for abortion, I'm pro-choice even though I don't agree with abortion myself. If abortion becomes illegal then women will just do abortions illegally and potentially hurt themselves or the baby. I heard a documentary of women going to Mexico to buy abortion pills as clinics being close down. You can't force a mother to be a mom!

Yes one life is more important than another.  MY LIFE is more important than a dog's life.  I think it is funny you say women will do abortions illegally and potentially hurt themselves or the baby. lol  You do know an abortion in a doctor's office will KILL the baby.  I really am not concerned with if the woman hurts herself.

I do not know what an abortion pill is.  If you are referring to the Morning After Pill you can get those here. But if pregnancy has already occurred it will not end it.

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Re: Really Sad
« Reply #18 on: May 31, 2019, 09:43:25 am »
Even worse when people go up in arms over illegals, fighting for their 'rights' in America but care nothing about the unsettling, growing amount of homeless veterans who are citizens and fought for this country and even the ones who are not homeless, some are certainly not receiving the care they need.     

I am not sure why people scream "veterans" so much.  How about just say AMERICANS.  Not every one who is classified as a veteran fought for this country.  I use to have a friend who is classified as a veteran.  He served less than 3 months in the military.  He was discharged I think for some medical something. But he is a veteran because he did serve in the military.  His welfare is no more important than mine.

And at least where I live if you have veteran status you get a job whether you are qualified or not before others.  That also is not fair.

The same with medical insurance.  There are thousands upon thousands of Americans who do not have medical insurance and cannot get the medical care or treatment they need.  I do not agree with putting somebody ahead of someone else just because of a past job they had.

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Re: Really Sad
« Reply #19 on: May 31, 2019, 09:45:06 am »
Condoms are cheap and easily accessible, and you don't need a prescription. Rape pregnancies aside, it's not difficult to avoid getting pregnant. It seems like an accountability issue to me. There are consequences when you take risks, in all aspects of life.

I'm fine with a woman having bodily autonomy. I won't argue about the "but it's not your body" thing. Agree to disagree.

For myself, I probably wouldn't get an abortion unless it was medically necessary. But I'm not going to let my PERSONAL decisions effect someone else and their decisions. We need proper sex education in the US, it's been proven to lower abortion rates. Instead, we take away sex education and expect women to "close their legs", even though it takes two to create a baby. Preventative care is necessary to avoid abortions (obviously with the exception of medical issues and rape) - I wish it were less taboo to talk about.

Your comments are contradicting. First you say you don't agree with "it's not your body", implying that it IS your body. Then you say it takes two to make a baby. So then it's NOT actually your body, because you didn't make that baby all by yourself.

The "it's not your body" is referring to the baby being murdered.  That is what people say when women say my body my choice.  The BODY being torn apart is NOT your body. 

How about if we rip your arms and lets off your body.  Because the baby is literally ripped apart.

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Re: Really Sad
« Reply #20 on: May 31, 2019, 09:45:30 am »
Simple and cheap contraception is readily available, so I don't understand the need for abortion. Just go buy a bottle of asprin and have the woman hold one between her knees.

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Re: Really Sad
« Reply #21 on: May 31, 2019, 09:56:44 am »
Condoms are cheap and easily accessible, and you don't need a prescription. Rape pregnancies aside, it's not difficult to avoid getting pregnant. It seems like an accountability issue to me. There are consequences when you take risks, in all aspects of life.

I'm fine with a woman having bodily autonomy. I won't argue about the "but it's not your body" thing. Agree to disagree.

For myself, I probably wouldn't get an abortion unless it was medically necessary. But I'm not going to let my PERSONAL decisions effect someone else and their decisions. We need proper sex education in the US, it's been proven to lower abortion rates. Instead, we take away sex education and expect women to "close their legs", even though it takes two to create a baby. Preventative care is necessary to avoid abortions (obviously with the exception of medical issues and rape) - I wish it were less taboo to talk about.

Your comments are contradicting. First you say you don't agree with "it's not your body", implying that it IS your body. Then you say it takes two to make a baby. So then it's NOT actually your body, because you didn't make that baby all by yourself.

The "it's not your body" is referring to the baby being murdered.  That is what people say when women say my body my choice.  The BODY being torn apart is NOT your body. 

How about if we rip your arms and lets off your body.  Because the baby is literally ripped apart.

I understand the reference. I was replying to alaskah's comments.

If you want to get a b00b job, that's your body.
If you want a facelift, that's your body.
If you want to amputate all your limbs, that's your body.
But until it's possible to keep a baby INSIDE your body for the rest of your life, I'm sorry, but that's not your body. It's a completely new human being with different DNA than you.

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Re: Really Sad
« Reply #22 on: May 31, 2019, 10:10:34 am »
I don't think we should prioritize life. A life of an animal is no less important than the life of a human we all contribute to the world more or less.

Yes one life is more important than another.  MY LIFE is more important than a dog's life.

My husband and I were just talking about this the other day, walking by the river which is currently flooding. I said I wondered if our dog would jump in to go swimming if she had the opportunity. He said if she did, I would jump in after her to rescue her and drown. I agreed, I probably would. Dogs > people.  :heart: :dog: :heart:

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Re: Really Sad
« Reply #23 on: May 31, 2019, 10:37:10 am »
I think most laws are kind of screwy, and someone needs to take a hard look at them.

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Re: Really Sad
« Reply #24 on: May 31, 2019, 11:50:12 am »
Condoms are cheap and easily accessible, and you don't need a prescription. Rape pregnancies aside, it's not difficult to avoid getting pregnant. It seems like an accountability issue to me. There are consequences when you take risks, in all aspects of life.

I'm fine with a woman having bodily autonomy. I won't argue about the "but it's not your body" thing. Agree to disagree.

For myself, I probably wouldn't get an abortion unless it was medically necessary. But I'm not going to let my PERSONAL decisions effect someone else and their decisions. We need proper sex education in the US, it's been proven to lower abortion rates. Instead, we take away sex education and expect women to "close their legs", even though it takes two to create a baby. Preventative care is necessary to avoid abortions (obviously with the exception of medical issues and rape) - I wish it were less taboo to talk about.

Your comments are contradicting. First you say you don't agree with "it's not your body", implying that it IS your body. Then you say it takes two to make a baby. So then it's NOT actually your body, because you didn't make that baby all by yourself.

The "it's not your body" is referring to the baby being murdered.  That is what people say when women say my body my choice.  The BODY being torn apart is NOT your body. 

How about if we rip your arms and lets off your body.  Because the baby is literally ripped apart.

I understand the reference. I was replying to alaskah's comments.

If you want to get a b00b job, that's your body.
If you want a facelift, that's your body.
If you want to amputate all your limbs, that's your body.
But until it's possible to keep a baby INSIDE your body for the rest of your life, I'm sorry, but that's not your body. It's a completely new human being with different DNA than you.

I know that.  I thought maybe you missed she was talking about the baby.  I had to read it more than once.  Cause I thought wait, you are saying it both ways.


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Re: Really Sad
« Reply #25 on: May 31, 2019, 11:51:56 am »
I don't think we should prioritize life. A life of an animal is no less important than the life of a human we all contribute to the world more or less.

Yes one life is more important than another.  MY LIFE is more important than a dog's life.

My husband and I were just talking about this the other day, walking by the river which is currently flooding. I said I wondered if our dog would jump in to go swimming if she had the opportunity. He said if she did, I would jump in after her to rescue her and drown. I agreed, I probably would. Dogs > people.  :heart: :dog: :heart:

I would do the same thing.  Most people would risk their life for their pet. But people are more important than animals. Although most times I do like animals better. haha

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Re: Really Sad
« Reply #26 on: May 31, 2019, 12:01:10 pm »
I do not believe in abortion only in rape cases or if  the mothers life is in danger.  I believe if you abort only because oh s**t I'm pregnant you are committing murder whether you want to call it that or not.  If you get pregnant (and in this day and age with all the precautions available I don't know how that happens as much as it does), and you don't want or can't afford or anything else have you never heard of adoptions?  There are thousands of people just waiting and praying for a baby, but for different reasons cannot  conceive.  Just my thoughts.
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Re: Really Sad
« Reply #27 on: May 31, 2019, 01:41:35 pm »
Things in this country have really gotten sad. I am glad I'm not the only one who notices how people care more about animals than human Beings. There are people who put their family health at risk just so they can keep a pet.

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Re: Really Sad
« Reply #28 on: May 31, 2019, 03:41:42 pm »
All of what you state is just as important as abortion. Killing any life makes humans look like crazy uncivialized animals! I don't agree with abortion but I don't like old men big wigs banning women's health care do abolish abortion!

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Re: Really Sad
« Reply #29 on: May 31, 2019, 04:12:40 pm »
I know so many  women who would  want a baby so bad that  she would  put her life in jeopardy to have another  child or  even just one, me included and here  are those who  go have abortions one  after  another. I is so easy to prevent  having babies now.  Planned parenthood  was started so people  could have help preventing babies, then  it seems like all of a sudden  the program was  doing abortions and the taxpayers are paying for them . Didn't mind  the planned parent hood. but I do not  agree with abortions. Am against it 100%.  Keep your legs  crossed, take the pills, use an IUD or make the man wear a condom  or both to make sure.  I know of one young lady whos had like 7 abortions and now that she is married  to a great  young man now and he wants a family. Did not know about the abortions. But  now she is so scarred inside she cannot  have  any.   Serves her  right but  Now they are having major problems because her  not telling him ahead of time.

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