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Vaccinations for Children
« on: August 08, 2019, 12:38:24 am »
I was just watching the news where they were discussing the fact that fewer children are being vaccinated before going back to school.  School vaccine exemptions are increasing.

Within the next month children will be back in the classroom.  My children are adults now so I'm not sure my opinion matters.

Do you think all children should be vaccinated?

Do you think parents should have the option of skipping vaccinations?
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« Reply #1 on: August 08, 2019, 04:43:05 am »
Depends on the vaccine. 

The flu vaccine NO you should not be forced to get that.  And I have refused it on more than one job.  Everybody that gets the flu shot gets the flu.

That HPV vaccine and some of the new ones I would say NO.

The ones we all got as kids I think they should not be able to not get them.  We are seeing a lot of disease being brought back in to this country of things we totally eradicated years ago.  I saw where in Colorado they are having cases of Black Plague.  There are also cases of Polio and other things we had not had here in my life time.  If they come up and say we all need to get those vaccines I am not sure I would do it.

They need to STOP the inflow of the disease in to the country.  A couple counties over from me they have a huge problem with TB right now.  And it is coming from the illegal hispanic population.  They KNOW who has it and where it is coming from.  There was something else but I can't remember what it is at the moment.  I am thinking it was something you could be vaccinated for.  But I wasn't because they no longer were doing it by the time I came along.

Personally, I feel if it is at all an option for you HOME SCHOOLING is the way to go!

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Re: Vaccinations for Children
« Reply #2 on: August 08, 2019, 05:51:37 am »
I believe they should be vaccinated.  Not only for their health but for those around them.
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« Reply #3 on: August 08, 2019, 07:03:56 am »
I believe they should be vaccinated.  Not only for their health but for those around them.

See that doesn't make sense to me.  If YOUR KID is vaccinated and the vaccine is going to protect your kid then why do you care if some other kid is not vaccinated?  YOUR KID had the vaccine so they are protected.

I remember some post somewhere online where some woman was screaming if your kid is not vaccinated then keep your kid away from my kid.  I had no dog in the fight but the comment upset me.  And I was like well keep YOUR kid at home if you are afraid for them to be around other kids!  If your kid has the vaccine to protect them then they do not have to worry about getting anything.

I can see things both ways.  Like I said, the vaccines we all grew up getting I have no issue with but some of the new ones I would say no to.  Esp when they started giving them a couple years ago and people are having reactions to them.

I am not sure what the ingredients are in vaccines as opposed to years ago but there are a lot of people with mental problems today that did not use to be.  And there are ingredients in the vaccines that I do not see why needs to be there.  I talked to someone online a while back and I can see some things she is saying.  She is totally anti-vax (I do not agree with this) but there is not a need to add mercury to the childhood vaccines.  I always thought it was just a dead version of the virus. 

The last vaccine I had was when I went to a community college to take a program they were offering and I had to get a 2nd MMR to be able to stay in school.  Less than 2 days after the shot I was so sick I could not hold my head up.  And yes, the shot is what caused it.  So I end up missing class because I am too sick to be conscience enough to know what is going on.

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« Reply #4 on: August 08, 2019, 12:07:10 pm »
I believe they should be vaccinated.  Not only for their health but for those around them.

See that doesn't make sense to me.  If YOUR KID is vaccinated and the vaccine is going to protect your kid then why do you care if some other kid is not vaccinated?  YOUR KID had the vaccine so they are protected.

I am not sure what the ingredients are in vaccines as opposed to years ago but there are a lot of people with mental problems today that did not use to be.  And there are ingredients in the vaccines that I do not see why needs to be there.  I talked to someone online a while back and I can see some things she is saying.  She is totally anti-vax (I do not agree with this) but there is not a need to add mercury to the childhood vaccines.  I always thought it was just a dead version of the virus. 

I believe the kids should be vaccinated. As you said about it, why worry about someone else's kid...Answer: Because the unvaccinated ones can cause a major disruption of education and other services or a full-blown crisis or deaths.

Mental problems have always been bad but they had help. They had hospitals to be admitted to and taken care by specialists.  Don't you remember the government shutting down those special hospitals saying the inmates could do better helping themselves and 3/4 of them were practically thrown out on the streets to fend for themselves? As for mercury in the vaccines--that has to be hogwash. No drug company or health organization would allow such a deadly poison in their vaccines. In fact, mercury is so toxic that it's highly regulated.  I'll bet your friend got her info from a "Dr. Brownstein," who has an email address that's not working. He wrote an article about mercury in vaccines. Sorry but it really sounds like he's a bit looney.
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Re: Vaccinations for Children
« Reply #5 on: August 08, 2019, 12:31:11 pm »
I believe children needs to be vaccinated too. Although sometimes, I heard from some parents that their had some negative response to the vaccine. But there was no evidence for it.

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« Reply #6 on: August 08, 2019, 02:42:35 pm »
I am so glad I don't have kids to raise.  I think that I lean more towards not vaccinating because of the problems and also it seems that maybe some could be an every other generation thing.  As vaccinated adults we are passing that down to our children during pregnancy.  Also I think they could do more research as to why some families seem to be more sensitive to the vaccines.  Another reason I tend to not be so much for them is.  It's mandatory to keep your dogs up to date on rabies shots  well I don't.  I was living in the country when my dog got into a fight with a rat.  The options were to go get him a 7 dollar shot or send the rats head in for testing which if it did have rabies my dog would have died by the time I got the results back.   oh and to send the head for testing was 25 bucks.  I also asked the state patrol officers about rabies.  At that time I was told that there hadn't been a reported case of rabies in this state for over 30 yrs. 
Some of these childhood diseases  I can remember a time when you purposely exposed your child to them like chicken pox and never heard of getting shingles if you had the chicken pox.  Then you find out that you can get polio again when your an adult even after having it as a child.  But I do agree for the most part to get that vaccination.

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Re: Vaccinations for Children
« Reply #7 on: August 09, 2019, 06:22:32 am »
I believe they should be vaccinated.  Not only for their health but for those around them.

See that doesn't make sense to me.  If YOUR KID is vaccinated and the vaccine is going to protect your kid then why do you care if some other kid is not vaccinated?  YOUR KID had the vaccine so they are protected.

I am not sure what the ingredients are in vaccines as opposed to years ago but there are a lot of people with mental problems today that did not use to be.  And there are ingredients in the vaccines that I do not see why needs to be there.  I talked to someone online a while back and I can see some things she is saying.  She is totally anti-vax (I do not agree with this) but there is not a need to add mercury to the childhood vaccines.  I always thought it was just a dead version of the virus. 

I believe the kids should be vaccinated. As you said about it, why worry about someone else's kid...Answer: Because the unvaccinated ones can cause a major disruption of education and other services or a full-blown crisis or deaths.

Mental problems have always been bad but they had help. They had hospitals to be admitted to and taken care by specialists.  Don't you remember the government shutting down those special hospitals saying the inmates could do better helping themselves and 3/4 of them were practically thrown out on the streets to fend for themselves? As for mercury in the vaccines--that has to be hogwash. No drug company or health organization would allow such a deadly poison in their vaccines. In fact, mercury is so toxic that it's highly regulated.  I'll bet your friend got her info from a "Dr. Brownstein," who has an email address that's not working. He wrote an article about mercury in vaccines. Sorry but it really sounds like he's a bit looney.

No, it will not cause a full blown crisis.  YOUR kid is protected.  YOUR kid had the vaccine.  So don't worry about the kid that doesn't have it.

No, I do not remember the government shutting down mental hospitals.  I was not around.  And the only reason it happened was because of crybabies saying they did not deserve to be locked up.

And there IS mercury in the vaccines.  You can get a list of the ingredients. And yes the drug companies would give you things that would kill you.  How many times have drugs been put on the market and then pulled later because it was causing people to die?  Happens a lot.

And I never said it was my "friend".  I said I talked to someone online.  And no she did not get her info from Dr whomever you said.  She had links to several sources.  You sound a bit looney.  I never said I was against vaccines.  If you had read what I said you would see that.  Some of the new ones no I would not take them.  The HPV vaccine that they are trying to shove down everybody's throat has already caused problems in several people. 

So it's MY choice.  If YOU want to go take every vaccine the government wants to inject in to your body then do so.  YOU are protected.  It doesn't matter if "I" take the shot or not.

If you look online you can see the leaflet that comes with these vaccines.  OR ask the nurse for it that give you the shot.
It clearly states in the possible side effects some really bad stuff which includes death.  Believe it or don't.  It's the same with meds the doctor's give you.  I had a doctor give me something once and I already was skeptical about it.  I came home and researched a little further and I did not take it.   A couple years later it was pulled from the market because it was causing people to have heart attacks.  I know someone personally who had a heart attack caused by this drug.

So no the government nor the drug companies do not have your best interest in mind.  But you go ahead and keep worshiping them and believing everything they tell you.

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Re: Vaccinations for Children
« Reply #8 on: August 09, 2019, 06:24:52 am »
I believe children needs to be vaccinated too. Although sometimes, I heard from some parents that their had some negative response to the vaccine. But there was no evidence for it.

Obviously there was evidence of it.  You can choose not to believe it but there is evidence that vaccines and medications cause negative things to happen.  Most of them even say in the possible side effects that it can cause a long list of horrible things to happen up to death.  READ IT!  Although not a lot of sense in it because you just say oh it's fake and don't believe it. 

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« Reply #9 on: August 09, 2019, 06:31:12 am »
I am so glad I don't have kids to raise.  I think that I lean more towards not vaccinating because of the problems and also it seems that maybe some could be an every other generation thing.  As vaccinated adults we are passing that down to our children during pregnancy.  Also I think they could do more research as to why some families seem to be more sensitive to the vaccines.  Another reason I tend to not be so much for them is.  It's mandatory to keep your dogs up to date on rabies shots  well I don't.  I was living in the country when my dog got into a fight with a rat.  The options were to go get him a 7 dollar shot or send the rats head in for testing which if it did have rabies my dog would have died by the time I got the results back.   oh and to send the head for testing was 25 bucks.  I also asked the state patrol officers about rabies.  At that time I was told that there hadn't been a reported case of rabies in this state for over 30 yrs. 
Some of these childhood diseases  I can remember a time when you purposely exposed your child to them like chicken pox and never heard of getting shingles if you had the chicken pox.  Then you find out that you can get polio again when your an adult even after having it as a child.  But I do agree for the most part to get that vaccination.

Here is the thing about not getting your dog vaccinated against Rabies.  If your dog bites or nips somebody your dog will be killed to test it for Rabies if you cannot prove it has had it's shots.  And the person who gets bit has to immediately start rabies shots which are very painful.  There is a guy locally that got bit and he is currently taking the series of rabies shots just in case the animal that bit him had rabies.

As for polio we HAD eradicated that from our country.  Don't be surprised if it is carried back in by the illegals.
If it made a comeback and they started suggesting everyone run get a polio vaccine and they come out with this new vaccine I am not sure if I would take it or not. 

Just because you have never heard of something doesn't mean it is not true.

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« Reply #10 on: August 09, 2019, 11:52:32 am »
I understand the legality of getting your pets shots.  Thanks.  Totally not the point I was trying to make.

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« Reply #11 on: August 09, 2019, 12:30:40 pm »
I believe they should be vaccinated.  Not only for their health but for those around them.

See that doesn't make sense to me.  If YOUR KID is vaccinated and the vaccine is going to protect your kid then why do you care if some other kid is not vaccinated?  YOUR KID had the vaccine so they are protected.

I am not sure what the ingredients are in vaccines as opposed to years ago but there are a lot of people with mental problems today that did not use to be.  And there are ingredients in the vaccines that I do not see why needs to be there.  I talked to someone online a while back and I can see some things she is saying.  She is totally anti-vax (I do not agree with this) but there is not a need to add mercury to the childhood vaccines.  I always thought it was just a dead version of the virus. 

I believe the kids should be vaccinated. As you said about it, why worry about someone else's kid...Answer: Because the unvaccinated ones can cause a major disruption of education and other services or a full-blown crisis or deaths.

Mental problems have always been bad but they had help. They had hospitals to be admitted to and taken care by specialists.  Don't you remember the government shutting down those special hospitals saying the inmates could do better helping themselves and 3/4 of them were practically thrown out on the streets to fend for themselves? As for mercury in the vaccines--that has to be hogwash. No drug company or health organization would allow such a deadly poison in their vaccines. In fact, mercury is so toxic that it's highly regulated.  I'll bet your friend got her info from a "Dr. Brownstein," who has an email address that's not working. He wrote an article about mercury in vaccines. Sorry but it really sounds like he's a bit looney.

No, it will not cause a full blown crisis.  YOUR kid is protected.  YOUR kid had the vaccine.  So don't worry about the kid that doesn't have it.

No, I do not remember the government shutting down mental hospitals.  I was not around.  And the only reason it happened was because of crybabies saying they did not deserve to be locked up.

And there IS mercury in the vaccines.  You can get a list of the ingredients. And yes the drug companies would give you things that would kill you.  How many times have drugs been put on the market and then pulled later because it was causing people to die?  Happens a lot.

And I never said it was my "friend".  I said I talked to someone online.  And no she did not get her info from Dr whomever you said.  She had links to several sources.  You sound a bit looney.  I never said I was against vaccines.  If you had read what I said you would see that.  Some of the new ones no I would not take them.  The HPV vaccine that they are trying to shove down everybody's throat has already caused problems in several people. 

So it's MY choice.  If YOU want to go take every vaccine the government wants to inject in to your body then do so.  YOU are protected.  It doesn't matter if "I" take the shot or not.

If you look online you can see the leaflet that comes with these vaccines.  OR ask the nurse for it that give you the shot.
It clearly states in the possible side effects some really bad stuff which includes death.  Believe it or don't.  It's the same with meds the doctor's give you.  I had a doctor give me something once and I already was skeptical about it.  I came home and researched a little further and I did not take it.   A couple years later it was pulled from the market because it was causing people to have heart attacks.  I know someone personally who had a heart attack caused by this drug.

So no the government nor the drug companies do not have your best interest in mind.  But you go ahead and keep worshiping them and believing everything they tell you.

Thanks for calling me a looney!!!  I guess you don't take any meds at all? Every one of them have warnings, even aspirin. So, if you think that way, you'd never take any meds even if they didn't give you side effects. That's sad. They do medical testing on humans before releasing a medication and when a drug is finally released for distribution, when Rx'd to a patient, the doctor must follow up and report any side effects or problems to the FDA, even if it's only 1 out of 5000 people with a problem.  I can't remember the drug name but there was one drug that only 5 people had side effects and they pulled it off the market.

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« Reply #12 on: August 09, 2019, 10:40:09 pm »
I don't have kids but I was vaccinated and I would vaccinate them for all the childhood diseases like measles, chicken pox, rubella, polio etc.

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« Reply #13 on: August 10, 2019, 06:49:27 am »
I agree with countrygirl12. All vaccines that are for childhood illnesses like chick pox, pneymonia and measles should absolutely be a requirement for entering schools. It is just too dangerous for the other kids to be exposed to these types of diseases. One must think of others, not just about one's own kids.

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« Reply #14 on: August 10, 2019, 06:58:40 am »
I believe they should be vaccinated.  Not only for their health but for those around them.

See that doesn't make sense to me.  If YOUR KID is vaccinated and the vaccine is going to protect your kid then why do you care if some other kid is not vaccinated?  YOUR KID had the vaccine so they are protected.

I am not sure what the ingredients are in vaccines as opposed to years ago but there are a lot of people with mental problems today that did not use to be.  And there are ingredients in the vaccines that I do not see why needs to be there.  I talked to someone online a while back and I can see some things she is saying.  She is totally anti-vax (I do not agree with this) but there is not a need to add mercury to the childhood vaccines.  I always thought it was just a dead version of the virus. 

I believe the kids should be vaccinated. As you said about it, why worry about someone else's kid...Answer: Because the unvaccinated ones can cause a major disruption of education and other services or a full-blown crisis or deaths.

Mental problems have always been bad but they had help. They had hospitals to be admitted to and taken care by specialists.  Don't you remember the government shutting down those special hospitals saying the inmates could do better helping themselves and 3/4 of them were practically thrown out on the streets to fend for themselves? As for mercury in the vaccines--that has to be hogwash. No drug company or health organization would allow such a deadly poison in their vaccines. In fact, mercury is so toxic that it's highly regulated.  I'll bet your friend got her info from a "Dr. Brownstein," who has an email address that's not working. He wrote an article about mercury in vaccines. Sorry but it really sounds like he's a bit looney.

No, it will not cause a full blown crisis.  YOUR kid is protected.  YOUR kid had the vaccine.  So don't worry about the kid that doesn't have it.

No, I do not remember the government shutting down mental hospitals.  I was not around.  And the only reason it happened was because of crybabies saying they did not deserve to be locked up.

And there IS mercury in the vaccines.  You can get a list of the ingredients. And yes the drug companies would give you things that would kill you.  How many times have drugs been put on the market and then pulled later because it was causing people to die?  Happens a lot.

And I never said it was my "friend".  I said I talked to someone online.  And no she did not get her info from Dr whomever you said.  She had links to several sources.  You sound a bit looney.  I never said I was against vaccines.  If you had read what I said you would see that.  Some of the new ones no I would not take them.  The HPV vaccine that they are trying to shove down everybody's throat has already caused problems in several people. 

So it's MY choice.  If YOU want to go take every vaccine the government wants to inject in to your body then do so.  YOU are protected.  It doesn't matter if "I" take the shot or not.

If you look online you can see the leaflet that comes with these vaccines.  OR ask the nurse for it that give you the shot.
It clearly states in the possible side effects some really bad stuff which includes death.  Believe it or don't.  It's the same with meds the doctor's give you.  I had a doctor give me something once and I already was skeptical about it.  I came home and researched a little further and I did not take it.   A couple years later it was pulled from the market because it was causing people to have heart attacks.  I know someone personally who had a heart attack caused by this drug.

So no the government nor the drug companies do not have your best interest in mind.  But you go ahead and keep worshiping them and believing everything they tell you.

Thanks for calling me a looney!!!  I guess you don't take any meds at all? Every one of them have warnings, even aspirin. So, if you think that way, you'd never take any meds even if they didn't give you side effects. That's sad. They do medical testing on humans before releasing a medication and when a drug is finally released for distribution, when Rx'd to a patient, the doctor must follow up and report any side effects or problems to the FDA, even if it's only 1 out of 5000 people with a problem.  I can't remember the drug name but there was one drug that only 5 people had side effects and they pulled it off the market.

You're welcome!  You called what you thought was my friend a looney!  Just turned it around on you.  And NO I do not take any meds at all.  I think you basically just said exactly what I said.  I know how it works.  I don't need you to explain it to me. 

I think I just stated there was a drug that they were giving out like candy (I can try to find the name of it later) and it had horrible side effects listed.  A bunch of people (including 1 I knew) was given the medication and had a heart attack.  The finally pulled it from the market.  IT never should have been released to the market.

You sound like one of these people who just wants to fight.  Do you even pay attention to what I said?  I think no.  I never said I was anti-vax.  I said I am open to thinking about some of the theories that have been released about side effects from vaccines.  The vaccines given today do not contain the same ingredients that they did 30-40 years ago.

READ the insert on the vaccine.  Some of them do contain mercury!  Your not believing it doesn't make it not true.

Most of the vaccines I do not have any issues with.  Some I would not take nor would I have my child take.  The "Flu Shot" is a vaccine.  I do not take that nor would I allow my child to take it.  Almost everyone who has that shot gets sick.  Then they say oh well it would have been so much worse without the vaccine.  NO, if you did not take the shot you would not have gotten sick.  I have NEVER had the shot and NEVER had the flu.

The tried to force us to take it last winter at work.  I refused.  I was about the ONLY one who did not get the flu.
One of the women who got the flu died with it.  So there ya go.

Another new one is the HPV the are trying to make every one take.  There have been some pretty serious side effects up to death from this vaccine.  Everything the government says you need is not something that you need.

Kind of like the mental drugs they have everyone on.  Every time you go to the doctor they are pushing one of them pills on you.  I would say at least 80% of the country (including kids) are on drugs given by a doctor.  That is ridiculous.

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