Trump Phone Calls

[Drutts0643]

Well i cant relate to your juror cos i dont know him,i dont know you either,but i see how you relate or dont relate to bible scripture.

You spoke of attacking me attacking you.What exactly have you done to me?You arent REALLY attacking me tho.You are attacking Gods word cos i back up what say using the bible.Plus i thought in one of your last posts you were done.Guess not eh?

https://www.jw.org/en/library/magazines/g201211/key-to-understand-bible/

I dont expect you to read the link or if u do to comment on it.Your choice.For the most part i consider it done unless i see otherwise and based on your jury post i wont hold my breath.

How many of these categories do you think hitch and the Jehovah Witnesses fall into?

10 Signs You’re Probably In A Cult

1. The leader is the ultimate authority
If you’re not allowed to criticize your leader, even if the criticism is true, you’re probably in a cult.
Cults begin with a charismatic leader who claims some supreme knowledge. They may call themselves a prophet, messiah, messenger, or an enlightened teacher. They can also be CEOs, military officials, politicians, and self-help gurus.
Cult leaders convince members to forfeit their critical thinking ability in return for a sense of belonging, authority, and purpose. To members, it doesn’t matter what the evidence or logic may suggest, the leader is always right, and their misdeeds are always justified. Criticism of the leader is forbidden.


2. The group suppresses skepticism
If you’re only allowed to study your organization through approved sources, you’re probably in a cult.
Cults view critical thinking as an infectious disease and every effort is made to suppress it. Doubting members are encouraged to isolate themselves from outside influences and focus solely on the doctrine of the cult.
Criticism is forbidden. People who contradict the group are viewed as persecutors and are often given labels like “anti,” “apostate,” or “suppressive person.” Members are discouraged from consuming any material that is critical of the group.


3. The group delegitimizes former members
If you can’t think of a legitimate reason for leaving your group, you’re probably in a cult.
Because the cult considers itself the ultimate authority on truth, it can’t imagine anybody leaving it with their integrity intact. Thus, it has to perpetuate a false narrative that former members were deceived, proud, immoral, or lazy.
If former members speak out, they are dismissed as bitter, angry, dishonest or evil. Cults often impose some kind of shunning to shame former members and prevent them from infecting other members with the truth.


4. The group is paranoid about the outside world
If your group insists the end of the world is near, you’re probably in a cult.
Cults position themselves as the sole refuge from an evil outside world that is intent on their destruction. Cults thrive on conspiracy theories, catastrophic thinking, and persecution complexes.
In an effort to draw in more paying members, cults are often very aggressive in their recruitment efforts which are usually justified as “saving” people from the evil world. Those who reject the cult’s message are unelect, prideful, evil, or stupid.


5. The group relies on shame cycles
If you need your group in order to feel worthy, loved, or sufficient, you’re probably in a cult.
Cult leaders trap members in shame cycles by imposing abnormally strict codes of conduct (usually prescriptions about diet, appearance, sex, relationships, media), guilting members for their shortcomings, and then positioning themselves as the unique remedy to the feelings of guilt which they themselves created.
Cult members are made to believe they are insufficient or unworthy on their own and that the only way to become worthy is to confess their shortcomings to the group or leader. The leader then becomes the meditiator of worthiness and the foundation of the member’s self esteem.
Leaders who can make followers feel bad about anything can use shame to manipulate followers into doing anything, even if it’s against their own self-interest or better judgment.

6. The leader is above the law
If you’re held to a different moral standard, specifically in regard to sex, you’re probably in a cult.
A prevalent idea among cult leaders is that they are above the law, be it human or divine. This idea allows them to exploit their followers economically and sexually without repercussions.
When confronted, they do not confess, but create justifications for their impropriety. Sexual grooming of members is common. Loyal cult members will perform any amount of “mental gymnastics” to justify or ignore the leader’s behavior.


7. The group uses “thought reform” methods
If your serious questions are answered with cliches, you’re probably in a cult.
Indoctrination or “brainwashing” is the process through which a cult slowly breaks down a person’s sense of identity and ability to think rationally. Behaviors like excessive fasting, prayer, hypnosis, scripture reading, chanting, meditation, or drug usage can all be used to increase a person’s vulnerability to the leader’s suggestions.
The hallmark of indoctrination is the use of thought-terminating cliches. Platitudes like “follow the leader” or “doubt your doubts” are regurgitated over and over so that members don’t have to critically analyze complex issues.

8. The group is elitist
If your group is the solution for all the world’s problems, you’re probably in a cult.
Cults see themselves as the enlightened, chosen, and elect organization tasked with radically transforming individual lives and the entire world.
This elitism creates greater sense of group unity and responsibility centered on a united purpose. However, this sense of responsibility is often manipulated by cult leaders who coerce members into risky financial behavior, sexual favors, free manual labor, or heightened recruitment efforts in order to “further the cause.”

9. There is no financial transparency
If you’re not allowed to know what the group does with their money, you’re probably in a cult.
A group that refuses to disclose its finances is a huge red flag. Ethical organizations have nothing to hide. Cult leaders tend to live opulently while their followers are required to make financial sacrifices. Members are often encouraged to pay their offerings even if it means putting their families at risk.

10. The group performs secret rites
If there are secret teachings or ceremonies you didn’t discover until after you joined, you’re probably in a cult.
Cults use secret rituals as rites of passage that solidify a member’s loyalty to the group. Initiation into these rites usually only comes after a member has undergone certain tests or made adequate financial contributions.
Often, cult initiations are confusing, bizarre, or even offensive. This mental dissonance between their sense of confusion and their loyalty to the “inner circle” convinces the initiate to double their efforts in order to properly appreciate the proceedings. This only further entrenches them in a shame cycle, making them even more susceptible to manipulation.

I guess Jesus must be president of that "so called cult"in your eyes.Plus they have love among themselves and obey his command to preach the good news of the kingdom worldwide.

Why dont you go ask Trumps son in law how he feels about JWs after they paid $340 million to them for Watchtower Bldg.

A divine blessing from God to use the $$$ for the worldwide preaching work etc.

I hope you copied and pasted that nonsense......i didnt read it at all....z-z-z-z-z-z

[JediJohnnie]

Of course you didn't. Can't have any independent thought compete with your Watchtower programming!

[Drutts0643]

BTW,i did answer your question Re Hitler and i am sure you will disagree that YOUR god punishes people forever in hell if they are wicked in his eyes.

Thats another reason why i dumped catholic religeon.I couldnt fathom TRUE God being that way...even before i understood bible truths.

I am curious,so u think A&E and Judas <to name a few>are in your hell?

[JediJohnnie]

BTW,i did answer your question Re Hitler and i am sure you will disagree that YOUR god punishes people forever in hell if they are wicked in his eyes.

Thats another reason why i dumped catholic religeon.I couldnt fathom TRUE God being that way...even before i understood bible truths.

I am curious,so u think A&E and Judas <to name a few>are in your hell?

A&E, I have no context to answer this side of eternity. The bible is silent.

Judas on the other hand, surely went to Hell. Jesus said of him it would be better had never been born (Matt 26:24) he was headed for destruction (John 17:12) and called him a Devil (John 6:70)

Also the fact that Satan possessed him and he never repented yet chose to kill himself speaks clearly enough for me to feel confident in saying he went to Hell.

[Drutts0643]

BTW,i did answer your question Re Hitler and i am sure you will disagree that YOUR god punishes people forever in hell if they are wicked in his eyes.

Thats another reason why i dumped catholic religeon.I couldnt fathom TRUE God being that way...even before i understood bible truths.

I am curious,so u think A&E and Judas <to name a few>are in your hell?

A&E, I have no context to answer this side of eternity. The bible is silent.

Judas on the other hand, surely went to Hell. Jesus said of him it would be better had never been born (Matt 26:24) he was headed for destruction (John 17:12) and called him a Devil (John 6:70)

Also the fact that Satan possessed him and he never repented yet chose to kill himself speaks clearly enough for me to feel confident in saying he went to Hell.

So where is Satan and all his angels.They were in heaven NOT TOO LONG AND rev SAYS WOE TO THE EARTH after they were removed?They didnt get their ticket punched to hell yet?LOL!

[JediJohnnie]

BTW,i did answer your question Re Hitler and i am sure you will disagree that YOUR god punishes people forever in hell if they are wicked in his eyes.

Thats another reason why i dumped catholic religeon.I couldnt fathom TRUE God being that way...even before i understood bible truths.

I am curious,so u think A&E and Judas <to name a few>are in your hell?

A&E, I have no context to answer this side of eternity. The bible is silent.

Judas on the other hand, surely went to Hell. Jesus said of him it would be better had never been born (Matt 26:24) he was headed for destruction (John 17:12) and called him a Devil (John 6:70)

Also the fact that Satan possessed him and he never repented yet chose to kill himself speaks clearly enough for me to feel confident in saying he went to Hell.

So where is Satan and all his angels.They were in heaven NOT TOO LONG AND rev SAYS WOE TO THE EARTH after they were removed?They didnt get their ticket punched to hell yet?LOL!

Obviously not. Read Revelations 20:10

[Drutts0643]

BTW,i did answer your question Re Hitler and i am sure you will disagree that YOUR god punishes people forever in hell if they are wicked in his eyes.

Thats another reason why i dumped catholic religeon.I couldnt fathom TRUE God being that way...even before i understood bible truths.

I am curious,so u think A&E and Judas <to name a few>are in your hell?

A&E, I have no context to answer this side of eternity. The bible is silent.

Judas on the other hand, surely went to Hell. Jesus said of him it would be better had never been born (Matt 26:24) he was headed for destruction (John 17:12) and called him a Devil (John 6:70)

Also the fact that Satan possessed him and he never repented yet chose to kill himself speaks clearly enough for me to feel confident in saying he went to Hell.

So where is Satan and all his angels.They were in heaven NOT TOO LONG AND rev SAYS WOE TO THE EARTH after they were removed?They didnt get their ticket punched to hell yet?LOL!

Obviously not. Read Revelations 20:10

Oh so they get a pass to run havoc on the earth till they burn forever??

JJ UR NUTZ!!

[JediJohnnie]

BTW,i did answer your question Re Hitler and i am sure you will disagree that YOUR god punishes people forever in hell if they are wicked in his eyes.

Thats another reason why i dumped catholic religeon.I couldnt fathom TRUE God being that way...even before i understood bible truths.

I am curious,so u think A&E and Judas <to name a few>are in your hell?

A&E, I have no context to answer this side of eternity. The bible is silent.

Judas on the other hand, surely went to Hell. Jesus said of him it would be better had never been born (Matt 26:24) he was headed for destruction (John 17:12) and called him a Devil (John 6:70)

Also the fact that Satan possessed him and he never repented yet chose to kill himself speaks clearly enough for me to feel confident in saying he went to Hell.

So where is Satan and all his angels.They were in heaven NOT TOO LONG AND rev SAYS WOE TO THE EARTH after they were removed?They didnt get their ticket punched to hell yet?LOL!

Obviously not. Read Revelations 20:10

Oh so they get a pass to run havoc on the earth till they burn forever??

JJ UR NUTZ!!

Satan gets judged at the end times like everyone else. Take it up with God.

The bottom line is you better take the punishment parts of scripture seriously.

[Drutts0643]

On your hell theory.God said eye for an eye life for a life.NOTHING ever said about continuing punishment.

Putting the wicked out of existence is quite suffice they will NEVER cause disorder in Gods world again.

You give the example of if someone hurt my family member.I understand we think sometimes justice in the world isnt enuff sometimes.If you could get away with killing someone that hurt your family member that wouldnt be enuff?They have to burn forever?Clearly this makes God look like a monster,something Satan enjoys portraying God as.

Even Jesus said to his father as he was getting tortured,forgive them,they dont know what they are doing.So when u know Jesus is merciful like his father is its ez to figure out.

[Drutts0643]

BTW,i did answer your question Re Hitler and i am sure you will disagree that YOUR god punishes people forever in hell if they are wicked in his eyes.

Thats another reason why i dumped catholic religeon.I couldnt fathom TRUE God being that way...even before i understood bible truths.

I am curious,so u think A&E and Judas <to name a few>are in your hell?

A&E, I have no context to answer this side of eternity. The bible is silent.

Judas on the other hand, surely went to Hell. Jesus said of him it would be better had never been born (Matt 26:24) he was headed for destruction (John 17:12) and called him a Devil (John 6:70)

Also the fact that Satan possessed him and he never repented yet chose to kill himself speaks clearly enough for me to feel confident in saying he went to Hell.

So where is Satan and all his angels.They were in heaven NOT TOO LONG AND rev SAYS WOE TO THE EARTH after they were removed?They didnt get their ticket punched to hell yet?LOL!

Obviously not. Read Revelations 20:10

Oh so they get a pass to run havoc on the earth till they burn forever??

JJ UR NUTZ!!

Satan gets judged at the end times like everyone else. Take it up with God.

The bottom line is you better take the punishment parts of scripture seriously.

I take it very seriously.I wanna live in a peaceful paradise earth forever.

[teresa3200]

Wow! This post got too serious and a little crazy for me.