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Discussion Boards => Off-Topic => Topic started by: vasireddy on October 19, 2010, 02:15:48 pm
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I saw an article with some interesting and surprising points.
CNN Poll: Was Bush better president than Obama? – CNN Political Ticker - CNN.com Blogs
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2010/10/08/cnntime-poll-was-bush-better-president-than-obama/ (http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2010/10/08/cnntime-poll-was-bush-better-president-than-obama/)
According to the poll Obama was ranked a better president than Bush...but only by 2% points with a margin of error of 4.5%. So theoretically Bush could have been ranked higher.
Do you think this is true? Is Obama only barely better than Bush?
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oh gaaaaawd.. idk rly.. dont get me started on a rambling spree! lol :-X
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I think the poll is probably true. Obama has been in office less than two years. It makes sense that he leads Bush, but by the end of his one time presidency, Bush will be the winner. Trust me, I know. :thumbsup:
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:cat: I agree with Mickey. Obama has been steadily creeping lower in his popularity.
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i liked Bush. The man had class, determination and had a deep respect for our country and military.
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Bush put the U.S. in a whole that we can't seem to get out of :BangHead:
So far with Obama, all we have are Empty Promises :angry7:
I'm Gonna Throw In A Third President 8)
MY VOTE GOES TO....BILL CLINTON :notworthy:
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Bush put the U.S. in a whole that we can't seem to get out of :BangHead:
So far with Obama, all we have are Empty Promises :angry7:
I'm Gonna Throw In A Third President 8)
MY VOTE GOES TO....BILL CLINTON :notworthy:
Lol!! :thumbsup:
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In my opinion both are the exact same as far as the crap they've done to us. I mean it's not like taxes or unemployment have gone down. Wars are still being waged everywhere as well as our empire building. GTMO is still open, we're still being illegally wiretapped, there is a threatening war with Iran, still spending money needlessly on things we can not afford. Albiet it might be on social programs instead of military programs the spending is still just as high. Unconstitutional mandates still come out as quickly as possible.
Both are globalists that can't seem to understand the fact that we don't want a neocon/neoliberal approach to our government.
What gets me though is the blind following of Obama I still see the "He can't do anything wrong" or the "Bush did it, he needs time"
Both are wrong in my opinion, he's the President, take responsibility and take action. Hemming and hawing over fault will accomplish nothing. He'd garner more support from middle leaning or libetarian mindset people if he did. The Bush did it aspect, well Congress was controlled by the D's for his 2nd term. If they were so concerned over spending especially on war, then why in the hell didn't they do their due dilligance and stand up to the president like they're constitutionally allowed to do?
Neither party gets it honestly, and the people that blindly follow either of them are just as guilty for believing that we as a country can continue down this horrid road we've put ourselves in. The mentality of spending our way out of things won't work since we don't have the money to make it work. The broken window is nothing more than a fallacy.
More Hayek... Less Keynes
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In my opinion both are the exact same as far as the crap they've done to us. I mean it's not like taxes or unemployment have gone down. Wars are still being waged everywhere as well as our empire building. GTMO is still open, we're still being illegally wiretapped, there is a threatening war with Iran, still spending money needlessly on things we can not afford. Albiet it might be on social programs instead of military programs the spending is still just as high. Unconstitutional mandates still come out as quickly as possible.
Both are globalists that can't seem to understand the fact that we don't want a neocon/neoliberal approach to our government.
What gets me though is the blind following of Obama I still see the "He can't do anything wrong" or the "Bush did it, he needs time"
Both are wrong in my opinion, he's the President, take responsibility and take action. Hemming and hawing over fault will accomplish nothing. He'd garner more support from middle leaning or libetarian mindset people if he did. The Bush did it aspect, well Congress was controlled by the D's for his 2nd term. If they were so concerned over spending especially on war, then why in the hell didn't they do their due dilligance and stand up to the president like they're constitutionally allowed to do?
Neither party gets it honestly, and the people that blindly follow either of them are just as guilty for believing that we as a country can continue down this horrid road we've put ourselves in. The mentality of spending our way out of things won't work since we don't have the money to make it work. The broken window is nothing more than a fallacy.
More Hayek... Less Keynes
:thumbsup: :notworthy:
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i liked Bush. The man had class, determination and had a deep respect for our country and military.
As a man, I think he was a great person, I've heard nothing but good things about him and his wife Laura. A good friend of mine was on the HMX1 hellicopter team as a lower ranking Marine during Bush's 2nd term and into the 1st year of Obama's. He's told me some stories comparing and contrasting the two that just make my head spin, espeically as a former Marine. Laura would make them coffee and cupcakes while they were on duty up in Martha's Vineyard and other local vacation spots. Knew about their families, their children, President Bush would give them birthday cards for their kids. Said him and Laura made them feel like family. He would say that it was just like I felt like I had a 2nd set of grandparents.
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Well in 8 years as president, Bush started two wars and added billions in debt and Obama's in his first term and is trying to clean up Bush's mess. And now Bush is living like a king with a new castle and all. As for Obama, he just started, so you have to give him a chance to see if he can clean up Bush's mess.
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Again with the "Clean up Bush's Mess" mentality.
I didn't like him either but when does it come a fact that well, this your watch, it's time to actually DO something instead of just golfing and going on vactions on the taxpayer dime? He didn't just start either, he's been in office for two years now. Other than spend my children into debt they're never going to be able to pay off, increas tax liability, and continue with two wars; what exactly has he done that has benefited us any different than Bush did?
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Well he did inherited Bush's mess: 2 wars and billions in the red. They' re all the same, rich and are famous for living off taxpayers $$$$$.
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So far from what I have seen I would have to go with Obama!
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Well he did inherited Bush's mess: 2 wars and billions in the red. They' re all the same, rich and are famous for living off taxpayers $$$$$.
Right and who was in Congress? Please look at the bigger picture, the wars could have easily been stopped by the powers explicitly granted to congress under the powers of the constitution. Even your golden child Obama didn't vote for that to happen. He voted FOR the Patriot act, which has doubled continental defense spending, part of that billions inherited, if you were so concerned about it, why do you continue to support. Obama has spent more in two years than Bush did in 8. I can link you the CBO budget proposal that shows this, since the CBO is a nonpartisan group.
Both are globalist new world order scum that are driving this country into debt faster than we can scream. However; from Obama supporters, all I see is blind faith with more pundint flavor of "Bush's Mess". You've still given provided zero reason as to why you feel he's actually better.
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I just cannot fathom how ANYONE....even a liberal.....can continue to "blame Bush" after this long of an Obama run bureaucracy. His campaign speech where he declared that "we live in the GREATEST country in the world...now help me CHANGE it" dramatically illustrates that he is an expert in doublespeak. Change we can believe in has rapidly become CHANGE we do not want or need. We can no longer continue to "spend" our way to prosperity. Government throwing (de-valued) money at a problem has NEVER solved ANYTHING. The public school system is a prime example. Has anyone been in a high school lately???????? Discipline is virtually unheard of in our schools (and our homes) because some liberal thinker decided FOR ALL OF US that the kids should be in control. Test scores continue to plummet in relation to other countries and our children are being left WAY BEHIND. Money IS NOT THE ANSWER. Obama can continue to have the feds print more paper (useless) money and continue to bail out whichever industry he picks today but IT WILL NOT HELP.
LET COMMON SENSE PREVAIL!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Teacher Unions care about the quality of life for teachers, not the quality of life for education. That's our biggest problem in my opinion as far as education. Remove the union => increase the quality of education.
Obvious example, private school and homeschooled students suceed far more than public school educated children.
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First of all I didn't really like Bush either, but quit putting this all on him. He did not START 2 wars. The war was gonna happen whether Bush was president or not. We have paid close attention to the Middle East since 1948, because of the on going Arab Isreali conflict. The US's first invasion of Iraq was in 1979 bc of a hostage crisis. Which were American nationals working at the U.S. embassy in Tehran. All because the shah (king), who was overthrown in the revolution, was allowed to enter the U.S. for medical care. And they didn't like it! they were upset about the shah being in the U.S. and they stormed the American embassy the following month. They took and held hostage 66 of its employees. The crisis lasted 444 days, ending on Jan. 20, 1981. The reason for the US's second attack on Iraq, was led by George Bush Sr., in 1991. The Persian Gulf War was not only globally supported, but a globally involved attempt to run Iraq out of Kuwait, in order to prevent Iraq from another long term war, like the eight year long war against Iran they had just been pulled out of 2 years prior by the UN. I swear, I've said all this before... maybe not.... lmao!! Do you really think that Bush is why we're at war, and that he's the only reason they've attacked us?? seriously, they've(terrorists) been planning this for a looooong time!!
anyways, Obama has not done anything to better this country. IMO. He's done nothing but make it worse. Its all a bunch of empty promises! Obama has said his intentions were to redistribute wealth as a means to help the poor, the underprivileged... but his unstated intentions are the same as all politicians of his ilk; "to reach into as much private wealth as possible as a means towards expanding State power and control." Hes all for socialism, he's implementing a communist America. The ingredients are in place for a dangerous transformation of our country into something we will all quickly regret and I don't like it. you really shouldnt either. Every time Obama opens his mouth he sounds like he wants to create a more socialistic government. He's for the redistribution of wealth from middle-class workers and producers to the already rich Wall Street bankers and financial executives. Now Obama is hinting about the government running our banks when they can't even balance their own budget and their wasteful spending is out of control... :angry7: As the candy coating wears off in the next few years, my hope is that more people will begin to see how dangerous this man really is. Barack Hussein Obama, IMO, is the most dangerous and one of the most thoroughly dishonest presidents this country has ever had.
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He'll make Carter look like a genious.
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All presidents have "messes", but I, too, disagree with those out there who still put the blame on Bush. Obama, in his first 2 years, has made a bigger mess on his own and appears to have no plans to straighten it out. He (and Pelosi, and others) want this country to be totally dependant on the government, for one. He is slighting Israel, for another. Healthcare...... I could go on, but don't want to get into too much hot water right now.
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neither are and were great presidents I would pick bush over obamabut neither ranks very high in my book.
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Oh heck, I wish clinton could have stayed president
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BILL CLINTON FTW!!!!!!!!!
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All puppets on a string
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i do not see much difference they all make promisses they can not keep.
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i saw this, thought it would be interesting to revisit
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Only time will tell... "W" did 8 years and Obama is still in his 1st term. It's too early to call and history will be the true judge a few years from now. I think both of them love the country: Bush wanted to do what was best and Obama still does. Just because they have opposing views on the best way to make America great, it doesn't mean they don't both want America to succeed.
Pointing fingers really doesn't do any good. If all sides would get together--Republicans, Democrats, Independents, Tea Party, etc--and try to cooperate, the country would be better off. Unfortunately, the blame game is hot and heavy and elections are about tearing down instead of building up. As long as this continues to go on, it will be a slow recovery. Stagnation is the only winner with a divided government.
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Obama has gone from high popularity to just blahhh. I think that Bush will be looked at as better by the end of Obama' presidency.