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i tried pbcash....waited for 3 weeks for my payout..well over $50...went to log in today...my account was marked as cheater....i guess that is their way of not paying me....beware
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Same here...there is another post on here somewhere talking about the same thing happening everyone.
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too bad these sites can't be reported to the BBB
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you can report them here.......gptboycott
I got that from another post on here. Everyone is reporting them. I think that once they get 10 complaints they put them on the boycott list. I never knew you could do that till tonight.
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i tried pbcash....waited for 3 weeks for my payout..well over $50...went to log in today...my account was marked as cheater....i guess that is their way of not paying me....beware
so am i, i try logging in just now and im mark as a cheater so i send him an email including this thread http://www.gptboycott.com/forum/showthread.php?t=18314 this is all about his site but looks like im also out of luck like you coz i did'nt find out that his a scam up to today, he also walk away w/ my $31
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thanks for the link, very interesting :thumbsup:
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glad you told me about pbcash couldnt figure that out anyway but so sorry that had cash coming to them and not going to recieve it. thats horrible. And to be called a cheater by a site is more horrible. I can see it if you were using like 3 accounts or something but come on.. those that are honest and being called a cheater is just down right horrible.
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being called a cheater was worse than not getting paid!
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being called a cheater was worse than not getting paid!
You are absolutely 100% CORRECT!!! If there is one pet peeve that I have or one thing that I absolutely cant stand for, its being called a liar, or a cheater when I KNOW that I am neither of those 2 things. :BangHead:
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being called a cheater was worse than not getting paid!
You're darn tootin it was!...i dont go around 'cheatin' on anything...these sites are helping me just as much as im helping them....and cheatin would hurt me way more then the site anyway...the sonsofbytches shoulda just done like the other gpt crooks did and shut down their site...callin folks names was the final kick in the azz!.
...but we know what they're up too...they get rid of the old members so they can use new members as a downline also...and since its already too close to the end of the month...the new members will have no idea that their account is about to be marked as a cheater for next months pay period...
...so they run off with commission checks, and get fat off the unsuspecting victims downline....
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you can report them here.......gptboycott
I got that from another post on here. Everyone is reporting them. I think that once they get 10 complaints they put them on the boycott list. I never knew you could do that till tonight.
So what happens if they get put on a boycott list?
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I Also got marked as cheater and i only did 2 offers,plus whatever my referrals made to bring me to 48 dollars
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you can report them here.......gptboycott
I got that from another post on here. Everyone is reporting them. I think that once they get 10 complaints they put them on the boycott list. I never knew you could do that till tonight.
So what happens if they get put on a boycott list?
I am not too sure...I think they investigate or try to shut it down somehow. :dontknow:
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you can report them here.......gptboycott
I got that from another post on here. Everyone is reporting them. I think that once they get 10 complaints they put them on the boycott list. I never knew you could do that till tonight.
So what happens if they get put on a boycott list?
I am not too sure...I think they investigate or try to shut it down somehow. :dontknow:
Investigated by who???????????? I do not see why it is a problem to report any company to the BBB. Hell I hope I don't get introuble for this but believe it or not FC was reported to the BBB a few times. However FC won each time. I can not get in to details of that report you will have to look it up your self but I did contact FC for there explination and I believe FC.
But it just goes to prove my point that any GPT site can be reported to the BBB at any time for any thing.
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you can report them here.......gptboycott
I got that from another post on here. Everyone is reporting them. I think that once they get 10 complaints they put them on the boycott list. I never knew you could do that till tonight.
So what happens if they get put on a boycott list?
I am not too sure...I think they investigate or try to shut it down somehow. :dontknow:
Investigated by who???????????? I do not see why it is a problem to report any company to the BBB. Hell I hope I don't get introuble for this but believe it or not FC was reported to the BBB a few times. However FC won each time. I can not get in to details of that report you will have to look it up your self but I did contact FC for there explination and I believe FC.
But it just goes to prove my point that any GPT site can be reported to the BBB at any time for any thing.
I did not know that these sites can be reported to the BBB.
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Any Buisness can be reported to the BBB that is why they are out there.
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If you ask me sites like squishy cash that only credit when they feel like giving you credit are just as bad. IMHO squishy only credits a few here and there to keep you coming back.
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PBCASH is a site run by a 16 yr. old punk that used to fight with everyone on the Cashcrate board. PB means paint ball. Paintballcash. I contacted him about his bogus site and he was not a happy camper. His Whois.net info didn't add up. His city was in Florida but his state was an island off of Australia. When I told him this he changed all his ifo including his email and the owner of the site. I cashed out and was deleted. My sister was deleted too. I told him that he was going to delete everyone and he did. Whenever a site pays out too much money in contests and offers...they will scam you. You will be a cheater. PIRATESRICHES.COM is the latest. $90 to win a week long contest. Don't win, you'll be deleted. No site can afford to pay hundreds of dollars a week in contests.
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Oh...the owner's name is really Ryan Miller!
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Its crazy how so many sites stress 'cheaters will be deleted', then the site owners get fat off of commision checks and turn into cheaters themselves, So little Ryan is up to his old tricks huh?..well maybe that broad named Angela Samman of Sparestash fame is his mother or something, cuz she reopened another site also, i looked at the winners list on her latest site and..noticed something odd about the winners of her last contest. but she is known for rigging her own contests, so im not too surprised
Rank Prize Member ID Completions
1 $100.00 38060 32
2 $50.00 38796 31
3 0 38084 28
whats the damn odds of all the winners using numbers instead of names?...not only that, whats the odds of all of the numbers starting with 38??...while i dislike dishonest site owners, its becoming quite the sport to 'call them out', so to speak..thank goodness for Karma, and the bad luck it brings..
..im glad ShiftCode is starting weed these frauds out..
the site WahMvoice has alot of good info about crooked site owners on their forums, i avoid most of the sites listed in the: 'GPT Sites-The Bad', thread.
good looking out Johnnyutah, thats another site i will avoid like the plague..
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I have read through this whole thread, and I would like to try and clarify some false hoods being posted in here. By falsehoods, I don't mean liars per say, but, perhaps misinformed.
Lets address Pirates Riches first. This is a brand new site, yes, but does this mean she will not pay out on her contests? NO it does not. For someone to assume she cant, is just being paranoid. No one should black ball a GPT site or any other kind of site until there is definitive proof that the site is not going to pay as promised. Then, if they don't, then is the time to go after them with a vengeance . You have NO clue what her financial status is, so for you to assume she will not pay, or will mark you as a cheater to keep from being paid, is presumptuous in itself.
I have come to realize that most posters who claim these types of problems, and try to black ball a site with no proof are most often than not, ones who have been banned from this site. So lets discuss being banned or being banned as a cheater. Because again I have seen ALOT of false info coming in on that also.
Let me be clear on something first, I own Fire House offers. Just want that in the open first.
When a site, such as myself, pirates riches, and others, have to mark someone as a cheater it is because we have been informed through other sources, including our sponsors, that these people are to be removed as cheaters. Last night, due to a couple of other sites losing some new sponsors and over a hundred offers, due to people thinking they can cheat the system, we went through all their banned IP address and banned about 10 people also. WHY would we do this? AND let me be very clear here, there were ONLY 2 of those users that did maybe 3 offers total....so...WHY ban them? Because they love to sign up for every GPT site out there, and then do the same offers over and over again. And the Next thing we as site owners know, is that, we have been banned from one of our own sponsors because of cheating idiots, and we have now lost ALL of the OFFERS they had to offer us.
DO we get PAID for this????? NOOOOOO!!!!!! Let me be very clear on that! When a sponsor says get rid of such and such user, and their offers are reversed we dont get paid either! So whoever said earlier, that as site owners we sit back and collect those big fat checks, and mark people as cheaters is dead wrong. Believe me, we dont make that much money! In fact I will be honest enough to tell you exactly how I offer what In offer. I pay out 1/3 of what the sponsor pays me, then 1/3 I put towards contests and upgradeing the site, and 1/3 is split between the 4 of us who own the site. I dont know about you all, but, when I work my site nearly 10 hours a day, and then have someone insinuate that we are just bringing in those "fat checks", well, its pretty upsetting. We put alot of work into these sites.
So in closing, if you are NOT doing offers (the same offers) mulitple times on different sites, and you are not using fraudulent info, name address phone etc, and fraudulent CC using, then, you have nothing to worry about. BUT when the advertiser tells the sponsor that we have fraudulent activity, then, we are going to deal with it or risk losing our business.
Because believe me when I say, I DONT like working 10-15 hours a DAY on our site, just to have a few ruin it for everyone!
So if you want to give the facts then do so. But dont just ramble about nothing that you know nothing about.
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PBCASH is a site run by a 16 yr. old punk that used to fight with everyone on the Cashcrate board. PB means paint ball. Paintballcash. I contacted him about his bogus site and he was not a happy camper. His Whois.net info didn't add up. His city was in Florida but his state was an island off of Australia. When I told him this he changed all his ifo including his email and the owner of the site. I cashed out and was deleted. My sister was deleted too. I told him that he was going to delete everyone and he did. Whenever a site pays out too much money in contests and offers...they will scam you. You will be a cheater. PIRATESRICHES.COM is the latest. $90 to win a week long contest. Don't win, you'll be deleted. No site can afford to pay hundreds of dollars a week in contests.
While I definitely agree with you about PBCash, assuming that every site that offers high dollar weekly contests is a scam is ridiculous. We have offered high dollar contests every week for over 8 months and have been running a successful and reputable site for the entire time. We have NEVER banned a member who is winning a contest, we have no need to. With high dollar incentives comes a larger volume of participation. I also know for a FACT that Pirate's Riches ONLY bans members that deserve it.
The member that posted the above slander is a known scammer and has been banned from NUMEROUS GPT sites. He has duplicated offers and caused a ton of chargebacks to our site as well as many other reputable and well known sites. His MO is that after he is banned, he slanders the site that he has been banned from in an attempt to "pay them back". He tried this in the Pirate's Riches thread on MMG and was quickly put in his place by the FACTS. Please do not allow this member's slander to affect your view of reputable sites, he is nothing more than a disgruntled scammer.
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PBCASH is a site run by a 16 yr. old punk that used to fight with everyone on the Cashcrate board. PB means paint ball. Paintballcash. I contacted him about his bogus site and he was not a happy camper. His Whois.net info didn't add up. His city was in Florida but his state was an island off of Australia. When I told him this he changed all his ifo including his email and the owner of the site. I cashed out and was deleted. My sister was deleted too. I told him that he was going to delete everyone and he did. Whenever a site pays out too much money in contests and offers...they will scam you. You will be a cheater. PIRATESRICHES.COM is the latest. $90 to win a week long contest. Don't win, you'll be deleted. No site can afford to pay hundreds of dollars a week in contests.
While I definitely agree with you about PBCash, assuming that every site that offers high dollar weekly contests is a scam is ridiculous. We have offered high dollar contests every week for over 8 months and have been running a successful and reputable site for the entire time. We have NEVER banned a member who is winning a contest, we have no need to. With high dollar incentives comes a larger volume of participation. I also know for a FACT that Pirate's Riches ONLY bans members that deserve it.
The member that posted the above slander is a known scammer and has been banned from NUMEROUS GPT sites. He has duplicated offers and caused a ton of chargebacks to our site as well as many other reputable and well known sites. His MO is that after he is banned, he slanders the site that he has been banned from in an attempt to "pay them back". He tried this in the Pirate's Riches thread on MMG and was quickly put in his place by the FACTS. Please do not allow this member's slander to affect your view of reputable sites, he is nothing more than a disgruntled scammer.
Well like i said...more times than not, the ones who start these types of posts are indeed the ones who are scamming the business and making it hard on the decent honest people.
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i agree with you but alot of sites are scam but its hard to tell which ones are until you try them yourself
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i agree with you but alot of sites are scam but its hard to tell which ones are until you try them yourself
Agreed, there are a TON of scams out there making it difficult for the reputable ones to garner any kind of trust from new members. However, it is a little frustrating when you have operated reputably for months, have always paid and respond as quickly as possible to support tickets and have a scammer post lies and influence new or prospective members. I understand it is part of the business and accept that fact. However it does play into how I respond to those types of posts and to those who post it.
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i agree with you but alot of sites are scam but its hard to tell which ones are until you try them yourself
I agree There are thousands of sites out there and gotta try them foryourself what works well for one may not be the site for the other I,ve gone here and there I get so confused??
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Well my thought is, a GREAT site, will stand no matter what a few members say, FC has its share of nay sayers im sure (heck i even got banned when i first joined..shhhh),lol
... I coulda been upset, but i still had nothing negative to say...a good site is a good site..no matter what...thats why the negative threads that members have posted stay up..FC doesnt need to defend itself, so long as it runs a good site.
Dragonsgold is an excellent site, i think its awesome the site owner, keeps its members informed of everything :thumbsup:....I dont know of Firehouse offers so i wont speak on it...the other sites i spoke of i know of personally or thru members that would have no reason to lie on the sites...
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Well my thought is, a GREAT site, will stand no matter what a few members say, FC has its share of nay sayers im sure (heck i even got banned when i first joined..shhhh),lol
... I coulda been upset, but i still had nothing negative to say...a good site is a good site..no matter what...thats why the negative threads that members have posted stay up..FC doesnt need to defend itself, so long as it runs a good site.
Dragonsgold is an excellent site, i think its awesome the site owner, keeps its members informed of everything :thumbsup:....I dont know of Firehouse offers so i wont speak on it...the other sites i spoke of i know of personally or thru members that would have no reason to lie on the sites...
You are so right on Dragons gold. It was one of my favorite GPT sites to work on before we opened up FHO. Joe is an awesome admin. No doubt! As for Fire House Offers, we would love for you to come on over, check us out. and give us a try. Beware tho, I tend to send out too may messages a day sometimes. ;D But, I like to keep my users in the loop of things. I think Im more excited than our users about paying out for the first time the end of this month-June 5th. There are 4 of us who own the site, and believe me, our goal is to make this site one of the best GPT sites out there, just like dragons is. :)
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i might have to check them out one of these days
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I agree, Joe from the dragons gold is an incredible admin. and his site rocks! so does firehouse offers. Being the admin. at Pirate's Riches I would like to address Johnnyutah's post. He is a known frauder who has scammmed several gpt sites and as thedragonsgold stated his mo after being banned is to go on forums and bash the site that banned him. Yes I am a new site but it's going very well and I do have the ability to pay my contest prizes. It is very frustrating to have to deal with frauders who cause us to lose our affiliates affecting not only our income but our members as well. I do understand that there are gpt sites out there who are scams, but not all of them. To just assume that all gpt admins. give approvals to whoever and whenever they feel like it is wrong. There are honest admins. out there. Give the site a chance before you bash them :)
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wh0 is Admin of PiratesRiches
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i never even been there so i wouldnt know, sorry
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I'm the admin. at Pirate's Riches, thought I said that in my last post but maybe I didnt :) My name is Mary, Hi to all :)
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Hi Mary.Look Foward to Joining Soon! :wave:
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ok now we met mary :wave:
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Hi :wave: nice to meet you :) I hope you enjoy Pirate Riches. I'm pretty excited about it :)
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Well my thought is, a GREAT site, will stand no matter what a few members say, FC has its share of nay sayers im sure (heck i even got banned when i first joined..shhhh),lol
... I coulda been upset, but i still had nothing negative to say...a good site is a good site..no matter what...thats why the negative threads that members have posted stay up..FC doesnt need to defend itself, so long as it runs a good site.
Dragonsgold is an excellent site, i think its awesome the site owner, keeps its members informed of everything :thumbsup:....I dont know of Firehouse offers so i wont speak on it...the other sites i spoke of i know of personally or thru members that would have no reason to lie on the sites...
i'm with ledal on this one! take swatcash for one... if you check the bbb a few people have reported them... same as ripoff report.com they are listed on there also... if you read their forums you will see people talking about how they are a scam and you will never be paid blah blah blah... but yet... if you read all that they say... they admit themselves..i was signed on at home and made my friend an account here at home ( 2 accounts on 1 ip ) i want you all to know this site is scam! they closed my account and refuse to pay me! ( i wonder why ) lol
but now take pbcash.... yes ryan was nothing more then a little 16 year old punk... but trust me he got his!!!! ha ha ha
all the gpt sites that he had on his site listed as high paying pts ads were all his referral ads... his biggest money maker out of them was swatcash... well needless to say just about every member he had went to each and every site he had advertisering for pts and ever the advertisers for his freebies and all was made known! he did'nt get a dime from anyone or anywhere. swatcash closed his account a.s.a.p. and he did'nt get paid along with the other gpt's he was advertising for his pts. his advertiser's for his freebies did'nt pay him ether....
karma is a B and what goes around comes around... yes alot of us got fulled by him and wasted our time on his site... but in the end he got his and he got it good.
but this is one person.. one bad person... yes i know there is more out there but please don't let one little snot face boy like this make you scared to join and try all the new and cool sites out there!
and for anyone looking for a newer site
try gptcashcow.com
it's owned by a very good old friend of mine and i promise you i know she would never scam anyone! she is a normal mother trying to make some extra cash just like alot of us here! :)
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i think i'ma stick with FC! :thumbsup:
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Hi Mary Welcome :wave:
i actually did sign up there but just havent been able to get back have to many on my plate but I am downsizing and its nice to hear comments from you
Makes me want to get back over there ;D
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Yes I Read Blogs. I Hear She Has A Nice 7.00 signUp Bonus
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Yes I do have a $7 sign up bonus and 17% referral commission. Come on over and check it out :)
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not susposed to post links people :angry7:
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whoops, sorry about that ;)
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Hi :wave: nice to meet you :) I hope you enjoy Pirate Riches. I'm pretty excited about it :)
Hi Mary! I really like the setup of your site! Im looking foward to joining! :D
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Hi :wave: nice to meet you :) I hope you enjoy Pirate Riches. I'm pretty excited about it :)
Hi Mary! I really like the setup of your site! Im looking foward to joining! :D
Hello :wave: look forward to seeing you over there :)
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Hi :wave: nice to meet you :) I hope you enjoy Pirate Riches. I'm pretty excited about it :)
Hi Mary! I really like the setup of your site! Im looking foward to joining! :D
Hello :wave: look forward to seeing you over there :)
hey, im really new with manual crediting, after i finish the offer, click do what?
Do i put in my username that i signed up with and then click submit or what?
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yup, after you finish the offer, just enter your username for my site and hit submit :)
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thats easy enough! thanks Mary!
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Just wanted to wish everyone a safe and awesome happy Memorial weekend :wave:
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I have read through this whole thread, and I would like to try and clarify some false hoods being posted in here. By falsehoods, I don't mean liars per say, but, perhaps misinformed.
Lets address Pirates Riches first. This is a brand new site, yes, but does this mean she will not pay out on her contests? NO it does not. For someone to assume she cant, is just being paranoid. No one should black ball a GPT site or any other kind of site until there is definitive proof that the site is not going to pay as promised. Then, if they don't, then is the time to go after them with a vengeance . You have NO clue what her financial status is, so for you to assume she will not pay, or will mark you as a cheater to keep from being paid, is presumptuous in itself.
I have come to realize that most posters who claim these types of problems, and try to black ball a site with no proof are most often than not, ones who have been banned from this site. So lets discuss being banned or being banned as a cheater. Because again I have seen ALOT of false info coming in on that also.
Let me be clear on something first, I own Fire House offers. Just want that in the open first.
When a site, such as myself, pirates riches, and others, have to mark someone as a cheater it is because we have been informed through other sources, including our sponsors, that these people are to be removed as cheaters. Last night, due to a couple of other sites losing some new sponsors and over a hundred offers, due to people thinking they can cheat the system, we went through all their banned IP address and banned about 10 people also. WHY would we do this? AND let me be very clear here, there were ONLY 2 of those users that did maybe 3 offers total....so...WHY ban them? Because they love to sign up for every GPT site out there, and then do the same offers over and over again. And the Next thing we as site owners know, is that, we have been banned from one of our own sponsors because of cheating idiots, and we have now lost ALL of the OFFERS they had to offer us.
DO we get PAID for this????? NOOOOOO!!!!!! Let me be very clear on that! When a sponsor says get rid of such and such user, and their offers are reversed we dont get paid either! So whoever said earlier, that as site owners we sit back and collect those big fat checks, and mark people as cheaters is dead wrong. Believe me, we dont make that much money! In fact I will be honest enough to tell you exactly how I offer what In offer. I pay out 1/3 of what the sponsor pays me, then 1/3 I put towards contests and upgradeing the site, and 1/3 is split between the 4 of us who own the site. I dont know about you all, but, when I work my site nearly 10 hours a day, and then have someone insinuate that we are just bringing in those "fat checks", well, its pretty upsetting. We put alot of work into these sites.
So in closing, if you are NOT doing offers (the same offers) mulitple times on different sites, and you are not using fraudulent info, name address phone etc, and fraudulent CC using, then, you have nothing to worry about. BUT when the advertiser tells the sponsor that we have fraudulent activity, then, we are going to deal with it or risk losing our business.
Because believe me when I say, I DONT like working 10-15 hours a DAY on our site, just to have a few ruin it for everyone!
So if you want to give the facts then do so. But dont just ramble about nothing that you know nothing about.
I have to say I agree with you. As the owner of gptcashcow I just gave away over 200.oo on a forum contest for Friday the 13th which had nothing to do with offers, just pure fun! And I promise you my members do get paid. This gpt site is not my only business so... YES I can afford to give away money if I feel the need to or want to show my members some appreciation. Which is done quite frequently! :) So I think to say a gptsite cant afford to do something is not anybodys place to say. Ecspecially if it is just done out of pure fun! Now if they have a reputation of not paying that is a whole nother story. But dont just assume cause you could have been the big winner of that forum contest!
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its all depends on what site it is and who owns it