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Discussion Boards => Off-Topic => Debate & Discuss => Topic started by: travislang on April 17, 2011, 02:43:37 pm
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ok this is taken from the bible
You do realize that marriage in the beginning was not one man and one woman? That Adam and Eve weren't married the way we view marriage today--without a minister, they would have cohabited? Here are a few other examples of marriage in the Bible:
1. Gays were not allowed to marry.
2. Women were viewed as the property of their husbands.
3. Abraham and Sarah were half-siblings.
4. If your husband died before you had a son, your brother-in-law was obligated to fill his role. If he couldn't, it became your father-in-law's job. Take a moment to really imagine that. Is that something you would really want?
5. It was okay for your husband to have sex with your maid to solve infertility problems.
6. Marriage was between one man and as many women as he liked (er, or could afford) so he could have as many children as possible.
7. Adam and Eve technically cohabited: there is no mention of any wedding ceremony anywhere in the Bible. I *bet* Eve didn't even wear a white dress!
8. If you found out your wife wasn't a virgin, it was okay to stone her.
9. Women stayed at home with their mothers in law and made babies. They did not have fulfilling jobs or hobbies outside serving their husband and children.
10. Paul said marriage in general was bad, and you should only marry if you were completely and totally desperate for sex. What's love got to do with it? With him, nothing!
Anyone still think we should be following the biblical model?
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Get ready for stretchy loopholes and arguments that say you have misinterpreted the bible, Travis. Because they're comin'.
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ok this is taken from the bible
Really? No, no it was not. We have this funny little 'rule' around the Forums. If you are going to in effect steal someone's work and post it here, then you need to give THEM credit for it. That was written by Laura Talley, Little Rock Atheism Examiner, back in 2009.
Marriage as Adam and Eve Know It
You do realize that marriage in the beginning was not one man and one woman? That Adam and Eve weren't married the way we view marriage today--without a minister, they would have cohabited? Here are a few other examples of marriage in the Bible:
1. Gays were not allowed to marry.
2. Women were viewed as the property of their husbands.
3. Abraham and Sarah were half-siblings.
4. If your husband died before you had a son, your brother-in-law was obligated to fill his role. If he couldn't, it became your father-in-law's job. Take a moment to really imagine that. Is that something you would really want?
Continues all the way through the rest. Look familiar? http://www.examiner.com/atheism-in-little-rock/marriage-as-adam-and-eve-know-it (http://www.examiner.com/atheism-in-little-rock/marriage-as-adam-and-eve-know-it)
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ok this is taken from the bible
Really? No, no it was not. We have this funny little 'rule' around the Forums. If you are going to in effect steal someone's work and post it here, then you need to give THEM credit for it. That was written by Laura Talley, Little Rock Atheism Examiner, back in 2009.
Marriage as Adam and Eve Know It
You do realize that marriage in the beginning was not one man and one woman? That Adam and Eve weren't married the way we view marriage today--without a minister, they would have cohabited? Here are a few other examples of marriage in the Bible:
1. Gays were not allowed to marry.
2. Women were viewed as the property of their husbands.
3. Abraham and Sarah were half-siblings.
4. If your husband died before you had a son, your brother-in-law was obligated to fill his role. If he couldn't, it became your father-in-law's job. Take a moment to really imagine that. Is that something you would really want?
Continues all the way through the rest. Look familiar? http://www.examiner.com/atheism-in-little-rock/marriage-as-adam-and-eve-know-it (http://www.examiner.com/atheism-in-little-rock/marriage-as-adam-and-eve-know-it)
Dang.........I LOVE IT WHEN THAT HAPPENS LMIAO ;D
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ok i am sorry i stole this....i did not realize it since a friend emailed me exactly as i had posted, i did in fact asked him if i could post it though. but i wont post anything else that anyone has sent me even though i asked permission for it may no be theres i guess
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ok this is taken from the bible
Really? No, no it was not. We have this funny little 'rule' around the Forums. If you are going to in effect steal someone's work and post it here, then you need to give THEM credit for it. That was written by Laura Talley, Little Rock Atheism Examiner, back in 2009.
so to answer your question yes it does look familiar but not from there, is before you start accusing people to ask them to get facts straight. i didn’t intentially steal this article from this girl, a friend emailed it to me, i cut and pasted so i received as you seen it, i did however ask him if i could post it, he said ok so i didnt bother to give credit to him since he did say i could. so again get the fact straight on if it was intentional or not before you go accusing of stealing. yes i realize now i did and could have simply gave credit if made aware of it but instead of just being down out accused of purposely stealing it, if i new he had stolen it i would not have published it....but to get the record straight this article i posted was written by LAURA TALLEY
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Naa Dude....you stole it.
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Naa Dude....you stole it.
[/quotei have to say after reading the his post i did steal it but i wasnt aware of the fact i did when posting it....
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just so you all know as well i just deleted the whole post as well and as i am able to cash out i will but will cancel this account here at FC as well. its a good company but to many a**ho**s in here
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Putting all that aside, you haven't given anyone time to rebut some of your comments. You sure you don't want to wait and see what others may say? I was going to, but I'm waiting to make sure you are here! :)
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lol travis...don't take it so personally. I agree with your original post-- my comment was just a warning of what's to come from the bible humpers.
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yes i am still here, i cant cash out yet, i only have 6 dollars in offers but 27 dollars in total, so until i get 25 dollars in offers i will be here
i wasnt directing anything to you falco, you have always been kind when talking to others on here
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That's good to hear. It's too late tonight for me, but I will give more time to this tomorrow. Hope you have a good night!! :)
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About the original subject, the Bible was written thousands of years ago. Have our species evolved since then?? Of course we have as a whole, but I am sure there is someone in this world who still follows the list you presented.
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Biblical view on marriage: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFkeKKszXTw&feature=channel_video_title
Yup, that pretty much sums it up. :)
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I don't know why these arguments keep getting brought up. It's always the same thing, Christian believers use the Bible as a source of proof, and non-Believers refute that. Without compromise and open-mindedness the so-called debate will never be a true debate. It just seems to be pointless to me because us Christians get accused of being "sheep" and "followers" while the other side does not take into account that faith does not have to have proof. I have gone from being a believer, to not, and back again so I do see both sides of the argument. But that's just it, there is rarely a true argument anymore.
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"The salvation of mankind lies only in making everything the concern of all." — Aleksandr
Isayevich Solzhenitsyn
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The major problem most people have understanding the Bible is due to ignorance. It's easy to take snip-its and turn it into anything you want it to be. Study the Bible earnestly from beginning (Genesis 1:1 - "In the beginning, God created the heaven and the earth.) through the end (Revelation 22:20-21 - "He which tesifieth these things saith, 'Surely I come quickly'. Amen. Even so, come Lord Jesus. The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you all. Amen.") and allow the Holy Spirit to open your heart to understanding. The "rules & regulations" of the Old Testament was for the Jews of ancient days when they had to offer sacrifices for sin atonements. However, as prophecied through out the Old Testament, God provided a way of salvation from eternal damnation and that way was through the death, burial & resurrection of the Lord Jesus Christ (and I do believe He was of virgin birth, led a sinless life & died for all who will accept his gift). Yes, God did & does judge sin. Study closely and you will see that God didn't let sin go unjudged or unpunished and He still doesn't. I look forward everyday to the trumpet sounding...(I Corinthians 15:52 - "In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.")
P.S. Please don't call me a "Bible Thumper". I have more respect for God and my Bible than that.
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I don't agree with all your saying. I think you have taken several verses out of the context as to where they are found in scripture. Let me ask you why then does St. Paul exhort that men should love their wives as Christ loved his Church?
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The God view of marriage is one man and one woman.
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lol travis...don't take it so personally. I agree with your original post-- my comment was just a warning of what's to come from the bible humpers.
HAAAA HAAAA!!! You said "bible humpers"!! :notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy:
That was the greatest saying I have ever heard...keep e'm comming falconer02-always brightens my day!ROLMFAO
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Don't you think it is kinda presumptuous to try to claim you know what g-d feels about marriage?
Even if you interpret the Bible to say that marriage is one thing, it was written ages ago by fallible men. Even if it is divinely inspired, just some food for thought here, think about this: human beings are allowed to adapt their ideas and change their minds over the course of time. Why would g-d give this ability to human beings and not possess it personally? The world has changed so much since the Bible was written.
Think of the countless other situations where one group was oppressed because it was believed the Bible to say so, and how now we know it to be ridiculous. Then think about this in 50 years when there is a WBC group out there talking about biblical views of marriage, and we all laugh at them and call them idiots.
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you make a good point but God knew that life and people were going to change.. humans evolve just like everything else. i dont think that the bible is s set of 'rules' that we have to follow. they are more like guidlines for the way that he intended us to live. He intended for everyone to not have sex before marriage, to marry the opposite sex etc etc... back in the day it was okay to stone women for things like that. It was a law back then and their way of the 'death sentence' is stoning. we still kill people today if they break a law. so in a sense, yes we should still follow the guidlines of the bible!
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Gays should not be allowed. 1 cor: chapter 6 verse 9
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Gays should not be allowed. 1 cor: chapter 6 verse 9
Break out your stones, people. It's huntin' time. Gays should not be allowed.
How loving. ::)
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I don't know why these arguments keep getting brought up. It's always the same thing, Christian believers use the Bible as a source of proof, and non-Believers refute that. Without compromise and open-mindedness the so-called debate will never be a true debate. It just seems to be pointless to me because us Christians get accused of being "sheep" and "followers" while the other side does not take into account that faith does not have to have proof. I have gone from being a believer, to not, and back again so I do see both sides of the argument. But that's just it, there is rarely a true argument anymore.
all we need do is look at the difference in families who live by the Bible and those who do not. I difference is extreme.
one is good, the other is not. All we need do is tell them, after that we need to dust our feet. GOD can handle them, I don't have too.
I don't mind being called a Bible Humper, in fact I like the Title and am not ashamed. Again, as Noah was laughed at for over 100 yrs
while he built the Ark, they stopped laughing and making fun of him when GOD closed the door of the Ark and it began to rain.
Remember there are stories in the WORD that give us hope, even when we are laughed at. In fact, we could laugh at them if it were not so serious. and then there was Lazarus. But to us it is wonderful, to others it is a stumbling block & foolishness. :wave:
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All I can say is no one can tell you who you can and can't love!
Gay, Straight, Lesbian I think everyone should have a fair chance to be with the one they love!
If god excepts them shouldn't everyone else?
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all we need do is look at the difference in families who live by the Bible and those who do not. I difference is extreme.
one is good, the other is not.
You got that right. The people who actually DO follow the Bible (like the Westboro Baptist Church) are monsters and a waste of human life. Good thing most Christians don't abide by the filth that covers their "holy" book. Better to be a hypocrite than a danger to society.