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I feel prayers are powerful; It have saved our country out of alot of mayhem and chaos since the beginning of time./
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The power of prayer is greatly underestimated in our country. God is still in control contrary to man's belief. The best comfort comes from a personal conversation with the Lord.
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Nope. Though I'm glad that the person is wishing good fortune onto others, I think they're an excuse to not help out.
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Nope. Though I'm glad that the person is wishing good fortune onto others, I think they're an excuse to not help out.
The way that most do it is simply passing the ball to relieve themselves of responsibility(or culpability) for their own destiny.
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The way that most do it is simply passing the ball to relieve themselves of responsibility(or culpability) for their own destiny.
Well put. It get disgruntled when I hear about people praying for the people in Japan...it's nice that they care and all, but they're imposing their beliefs on a people who don't have the same and I think donating materials or money to helping them out is a truckload more important than, as you put it, relieving themselves of responsibility. Actions speak louder than words.
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I know they are. But I also feel that if you pray and do not believe it will happen then it will not.
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Prayers are only as powerful as the people praying; a weak-willed person praying for something, but not willing to lift a finger towards their goal themselves, makes the prayer worthless. But prayers can give those that believe hope, and hope is a powerful thing in itself. Hope can push people into trying, when they may otherwise have given up.
In the end though, it's a person's willingness to do something about a given situation that makes all the difference.
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I feel prayers are powerful; It have saved our country out of alot of mayhem and chaos since the beginning of time./
Ha! Is that a joke??!
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There are many people praying for those in Japan, they are not imposing their personal beliefs on a people who don't believe the same---they are simply praying to God. Whatever beliefs those in Japan have, they are free to have. As for donating materials & money, many believers DO donate quite a bit of both (along with those prayers) which is why the 700 Club's "Operation Blessing" is so often able to be on the scene delivering truckloads of supplies and hope in many disasters. The supplies are given to those in need regardless of their beliefs, they are not obligated or even pressured to change beliefs in exchange for help. http://www.cbn.com/cbnnews/world/2011/March/Operation-Blessing-Others-Help-in-Japan-Despite-Risk/
I do agree with you, Sheryl. Also, for a Christian, it's just seems natural to to automatically think of praying for a situation like that, when it happens. For some people, praying is all they can do if they don't have an income, or sick, etc. Then there are those who pray and send helpful items, and those who don't pray but send helpful items. Compassion, whether Christian or non-christian, results in teamwork/action for others when they get knocked down. :)
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Prayer to God, offered in faith, can be very powerful. God answers prayer.
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you are wright prayers are very good and can help with anything.
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I feel prayers are powerful; It have saved our country out of alot of mayhem and chaos since the beginning of time./
Ha! Is that a joke??!
I will pray for you ......
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Prayers are only as powerful as the people praying; a weak-willed person praying for something, but not willing to lift a finger towards their goal themselves, makes the prayer worthless. But prayers can give those that believe hope, and hope is a powerful thing in itself. Hope can push people into trying, when they may otherwise have given up.
In the end though, it's a person's willingness to do something about a given situation that makes all the difference.
Faith is all we have to have in any given situation...Thanks for your comment ..appreciate it
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I will pray for you ......
And I'll do nothing for you...so, we're even. ;)
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And I'll do nothing for you...so, we're even
lolololol
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i think prayers are very powerful you can be hurting and pray and god will heal you
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Yes, the Lord hears our prayers. He is faithful!
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I absolutely think that prayers are powerful - miracles happen all the time and prayer was a huge part of it. I think that sometimes taking a leap of faith and believing does wonders for people. :angel11:
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I feel prayers are powerful; It have saved our country out of alot of mayhem and chaos since the beginning of time./
I agree with you Lynn, Prayer does work and miracles happen when we pray. If we look around at familys who go to church & pray together,
there is peace and happiness, together-ness... family with parents who smoke, drink and party and torn apart. That is a prime example
yet so many are blinded by the evil angel of light??? They prefer death styles instead of life styles, satan is the father of lies and death.
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If we look around at familys who go to church & pray together,
there is peace and happiness, together-ness...
lol Another joke? Religious "families" are some of the most dysfunctional folks around!
P.S. I neither smoke, drink, nor party and it ain't because of Jesus.
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I think that prayers are useless. Prayers will not stop nuclear meltdowns or natural disasters or wars, famine, terrorrists, accidents, crime, ect. as people hope it will, nor does it make things any better. You make yourself feel better. Prayer is just a pacifier for the weak minded flock of sheep.
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Yes i believe prayers are powerful,sure its nice to pray for others in their time of need. and conversation with lord doesn't hurt anyone.you do and go with what you believe.
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When a child has an imaginary friend that they talk to, it's considered cute and creative. When an adult has an imaginary friend that they talk to, they're considered to be crazy. But when a group of people do it, it's acceptable-- but they'll get mad if you compare them to children or call them crazy.
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When a child has an imaginary friend that they talk to, it's considered cute and creative. When an adult has an imaginary friend that they talk to, they're considered to be crazy. But when a group of people do it, it's acceptable-- but they'll get mad if you compare them to children or call them crazy.
I'm a Christian. Someone saying that to me wouldn't make me mad. There's no reason to get angry at someone who's ignorant.
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There's no reason to get angry at someone who's ignorant.
So am I ignorant of your telepathy or are you ignorant of reality? I'm assuming you mean that praying is powerful. It's your job to prove that it works- not mine. If you can't, then who's the ignorant one? I've never seen any proof and yet many here say it works. And, as I asked in the past, they'll say "it's not my job to prove it-- you just have to learn to have a personal relationship with jesus/god and then you'll see the magic!" which is a total cop-out and running away from the argument because they've done nothing but broaden the problem of putting proof on the table. Internally and progressively inconsistent.
It's times like this I think about *bleep* Germany and how many Jews probably prayed for god to save them from the gas chambers or the firing squads. Apparently prayers can't stop bullets or deadly gas. Sad that an omnipotent super-powered god would respond to a prayer for one person to feel better from a bad cold, but he's ignorant enough to not respond to the massacre of millions of decent and innocent people (including children). :angry7:
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THE POWER OF PRAYER IS VERY POWERFUL.
IF YOU HAVE FAITH.
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I really belive that prayer is powerful. Im not really a religious person but I make it a point to say a little prayer every night before I go to bed.
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Yes. So is wind (ex, tornados) even though you can't see it, you can see the effects.
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Yes. So is wind (ex, tornados) even though you can't see it, you can see the effects.
You can interact with wind, measure it, predict it, and you can see the manifest of it during a tornado. It supplies us with power and can even be used to travel or for entertainment. You can't prove anything like that with a prayer.
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Amen, I do!!
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no, I've tried to pray over many things before.. && it never worked.. so I gave up.
&& I'm happier now that I'm not sitting around waiting for something to happen.
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The topic is a question that simply asks if one thinks prayers are powerful. The topic never said anything about anyone having to prove prayer exists, prove prayer works, etc.
If they're looking for a simple yes or no, the OP shouldn't have posted it in debate and discuss.
it would be pratically impossible for anyone to prove that they ever had a prayer answered.
Then, aside from simple emotional speculation, they are not powerful or real.
It's also pratically impossible to show "something" to a blind person but that doesn't mean that the "something" doesn't exist...
You have 4 other senses to easily prove it does exist. This is the same thing as the wind example but it's just reworded.
Those that have that "something" in their lives have something that noone on this earth can ever take away. Those that pray to Jesus KNOWS He answers prayer and we KNOW the power of prayer. We KNOW that our God LIVES...and we're sorry if yours doesn't.
Explain to me how this is different from saying "I have magical telepathic powers that you do not posess." and why you put pity on those for something you can't prove but we can rationally prove is completely false.
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There's no reason to get angry at someone who's ignorant.
I'm assuming you mean that praying is powerful.... And, as I asked in the past, they'll say "it's not my job to prove it-- you just have to learn to have a personal relationship with jesus/god and then you'll see the magic!" which is a total cop-out and running away from the argument....
I wasn't talking about whether or not prayer works, I was responding to your comparison between an imaginary friend and God. And no, I'm not a Fundamentalist Christian, so I would never say that to you. I also study and respect Buddhist teachings. Do you go around hatefully renouncing the things the Buddha taught, or do you reserve your ignorance for just one faith?
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I wasn't talking about whether or not prayer works, I was responding to your comparison between an imaginary friend and God. And no, I'm not a Fundamentalist Christian, so I would never say that to you. I also study and respect Buddhist teachings. Do you go around hatefully renouncing the things the Buddha taught, or do you reserve your ignorance for just one faith?
I call problems out as I see them. And it just so happens Christianity is overloaded with them. But what ignorance? Of your telepathy? What hate?
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:angel11: I still believe in the power of prayers and say my prayers each night to thank the Good Lord for everything, because I am thankful for everything that I am able to do and have at this time since before I went through some really "rough" times, it was prayers that got me through those rough times and still enabling me to cope with all that I have to deal with these days. :notworthy:
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To me and for me..Prayer is the only answer. It works for those who BELIEVE!
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Prayer is very powerful. But you will have to have faith in it. I try to say thanx 2 God everyday. We are not promise 2 tomorrow, Not even 2day. I feel that God is not happy with the thing we are doing. We can putting people to death, when thatis not are place. That person will have to deal with the Lord in the end. What make you so better to put a date on someone else life.
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Personally I'm convinced that prayer is powerful. It's a good way to focus positive energy on a situation. i also believe that you have to take action as well. I'm not a chapter and verse person, but Matthew has a verse that says something like whatever you shall ask for, believing that you shall get it, you will receive. Gregg Bradden talks about this in his book "The Lost Mode of Prayer."
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Yes PRAYERS are very powerful. How do I know. Ive had many answered. Also my body was healed. Thank God. The bible says to pray without ceasing.
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I wasn't talking about whether or not prayer works, I was responding to your comparison between an imaginary friend and God. And no, I'm not a Fundamentalist Christian, so I would never say that to you. I also study and respect Buddhist teachings. Do you go around hatefully renouncing the things the Buddha taught, or do you reserve your ignorance for just one faith?
I call problems out as I see them. And it just so happens Christianity is overloaded with them. But what ignorance? Of your telepathy? What hate?
You keep using the word telepathy. Do you think that when people pray, they imagine that they're talking silently to another human-like being? That's my only guess at the meaning of your jargon. I don't think of prayer that way at all. To me, God isn't some white-bearded, omnipresent entity that does actions to or for human beings. God starts within each person. Our conscience, our natural desire to help people in need... These instincts are what I think of when I pray. Do you ever feel these things? That's what I meant about ignorance. If you don't foster these feeling within yourself, that's a big part of your misunderstanding.
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Do you think that when people pray, they imagine that they're talking silently to another human-like being?
Yeah. That's what most of them do. A very basic example is praying at dinner.
Our conscience, our natural desire to help people in need... These instincts are what I think of when I pray. Do you ever feel these things? That's what I meant about ignorance. If you don't foster these feeling within yourself, that's a big part of your misunderstanding.
Of course I do. I volunteer at places (mainly for animals) all the time. Difference here is I don't need to wish things towards people in privacy because it's pretty much pointless.
Doing > privately wishing good/wishing for emotional strength.
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yes definately
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I feel prayers are powerful; It have saved our country out of alot of mayhem and chaos since the beginning of time./
sure prayers are powerful and it also changes thing but you have to pray daily and you have to work with him also.
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Matthew has a verse that says something like whatever you shall ask for, believing that you shall get it, you will receive
And that's obviously a patent lie, so why do you still think prayer is powerful?
http://godisimaginary.com/i1.htm
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i think prayers are the same as having hope
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Nope. Though I'm glad that the person is wishing good fortune onto others, I think they're an excuse to not help out.
Indeed !
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Thank you fusion cashers for your posts . i appreciate it alot ...God Bless
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This is a heated topic. Prayers are powerful for the ones that believe in it. Since I am a believer in prayer, I would say that prayer has been a strong source of survival for my family, my friends, and myself. I must say that it's not the prayer itself that makes it so powerful but it is the strength of your faith that gives it the strength to deliver whatever it is you desire. As far as praying for others (whether they believe or not) will show your gratitude for others. Like the Bible states, "Prayer is the key and faith unlocks the door". With this said, don't stop praying but also believe in what you are praying about and you will see the power of prayer! :angel11:
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Yes, I do think prayer is very powerful you just have to have faith
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I think that prayers are very powerful. Never underestimate the power of prayer. What people do not always realize is that prayer is meant for things that you need not what you want. You might need money for your monthly bills but that doesnt mean that you are going to win the lottery.
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"To give pleasure to a single heart by a single act is better that a thousand heads bowing in prayer."
-- Mahatma Gandhi
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I think that prayers are very powerful. Never underestimate the power of prayer. What people do not always realize is that prayer is meant for things that you need not what you want. You might need money for your monthly bills but that doesnt mean that you are going to win the lottery.
jrdawson,
I like the way you put that. I try to remind young people or anyone else, including myself, that God does answer prayers. Like you said His answer is for what the person needs to help them. He always answers prayer by saying "Yes," "No," or "Maybe Later."
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He always answers prayer by saying "Yes," "No," or "Maybe Later."
Hmm, where have I seen this? Oh yeah!
http://www.fusioncash.net/forum.php?topic=23608.msg302900#msg302900
Repeating myself...lol, lol.
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You might as well pick up a magic 8 ball and work with that instead!!! HA!
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He always answers prayer by saying "Yes," "No," or "Maybe Later."
:angel11: you're so right, jcribb. I have to keep reminding myself that there isn't just "yes" or "no" answers but the "maybe later" exists as well. I've been praying since Sept '10 for an answer/solution to my job situation. (I have applied and re-applied to a minimum of 5 jobs a day since Sept. 10 and NOTHING.) I have a job and it was going fairly well and then things started slowing down more and more. I'm getting 17-20 hours a week and the bills have been piling up. I have until June 1 to get a BIG answer to prayer or one of my beloved pets will need to be put down as it's impossible to keep up with the expenses of a horse with such minimal amount of income coming in. (I've checked into rescues and shelters and I'd rather end it for him than take a chance on him getting into the wrong hands and suffering later.) Hopefully His "no's" and "maybe later's" will be a yes soon but if not, I know He knows best. It's been a sad & stressful time and ONLY God can fix this, and I believe He will.
I'll pray with you, Sheryl. I'm in the same boat - today is the last day of my current job. And bills don't pay themselves, that's for sure! At the very least, when I leave it with the Lord, it takes a lot of burden off of this "worry-wart basket case."
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He always answers prayer by saying "Yes," "No," or "Maybe Later."
Hmm, where have I seen this? Oh yeah!
http://www.fusioncash.net/forum.php?topic=23608.msg302900#msg302900
Repeating myself...lol, lol.
At least you remembered it, lol!
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You might as well pick up a magic 8 ball and work with that instead!!! HA!
If something gives comfort to other people, what's wrong with it? Ridiculing it only makes you look small and petty.
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This is a heated topic. Prayers are powerful for the ones that believe in it. Since I am a believer in prayer, I would say that prayer has been a strong source of survival for my family, my friends, and myself. I must say that it's not the prayer itself that makes it so powerful but it is the strength of your faith that gives it the strength to deliver whatever it is you desire. As far as praying for others (whether they believe or not) will show your gratitude for others. Like the Bible states, "Prayer is the key and faith unlocks the door". With this said, don't stop praying but also believe in what you are praying about and you will see the power of prayer! :angel11:
Thanks alot ......Psalms 46:1...God is our refuge, in strength and ever prescence help in trouble. Psalms 46:7 The Lord Almighty is with us, The God of Jacob is our fortress.
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You might as well pick up a magic 8 ball and work with that instead!!! HA!
......Psalms 46:1...God is our refuge, in strength and ever prescence help in trouble. Psalms 46:7 The Lord Almighty is with us, The God of Jacob is our fortress.
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i think prayers are the same as having hope
YOu are correct Hope equals Faith.............Psalms 46:1...God is our refuge, in strength and ever prescence help in trouble. Psalms 46:7 The Lord Almighty is with us, The God of Jacob is our fortress.
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You might as well pick up a magic 8 ball and work with that instead!!! HA!
If something gives comfort to other people, what's wrong with it? Ridiculing it only makes you look small and petty.
Because prayer won't fix anything. Action will.
And tzs wasn't ridiculing anyone. She was ridiculing a ridiculous practice.
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ridiculing others dosnt even sound right. :peace: Spread the love!
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You might as well pick up a magic 8 ball and work with that instead!!! HA!
If something gives comfort to other people, what's wrong with it? Ridiculing it only makes you look small and petty.
Soooooo, let me get this straight......Is GOD INSIDE the magic 8 ball, or is it a Genie In-The-Lamp kind of thing????? :dontknow: :dontknow: :dontknow:
You han have hope without having faith in God, my friends! Prayer is just another catalyst to keep you believing-YOU should be your own catalyst and believe in yourself!!!! And please don't say that prayers helped you get something accomplished in your life, YOU DID IT ON YOUR OWN. All I am saying is people need to start giving themselves some personal credit for overcoming adversities and such, and stop using the always handy-dandy faith in god and prayer speech.
You know, the speech that always starts off as "I would like to first give thanks to blaaah blaaah bleebiddy blaah blaaah!" which I cannot stand to hear anymore!!
GIVE YOURSELF SOME CREDIT PEOPLE!!!!!!!!!
....... your faith and religion might as well be some kind of a glory-hog!!!
.......you know, since it gets all of the credit for everything that is good in your life!........ :wave:
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@tzs: Well said! I think most people just have a "oh, pity me" complex!
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i think that they can be.
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They are powerful for the person praying. As to whether they contribute to miracles...believing is seeing, IMO. I don't knock it, because believing is seeing is what lead me to Judaism. I saw its power once I believed. As for praying, I wouldn't knock someone whether they do or they don't. What matters more to me is not the prayer, but what the prayer leads the person to do.
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Yes, I belive they are very powerful. :angel12:
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Sheryl-- I suggest you separate your post into paragraphs. It's hard for someone to read that massive wall of text.
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Its just like horoscopes. When they are wrong, people ignore them. When they are right, people praise them as supernatural. If I pray that it will rain tomorrow and it does indeed rain, that doesn't mean the rain is the result of my prayer. It would have rained regardless of my prayer.
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prayers are very powerful :) they saved a lot of people in my family
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Sheryl-- I suggest you separate your post into paragraphs. It's hard for someone to read that massive wall of text.
I pray for paragraphs.
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Sheryl-- I suggest you separate your post into paragraphs. It's hard for someone to read that massive wall of text.
I pray for paragraphs.
.....HA, HA!
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Sheryl-- I suggest you separate your post into paragraphs. It's hard for someone to read that massive wall of text.
....WORD!
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The power of prayer is greatly underestimated in our country. God is still in control contrary to man's belief. The best comfort comes from a personal conversation with the Lord.
I agree with you 100%... personal conversation with ABBA is priceless.
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i believe that god hears and can answer prayers, they are powerful.
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I had that job interview...have to go back again this Wednesday afternoon for a second one which isn't the "norm" for them, but I think everything went well. (It was the strangest interview I've ever been to, they didn't even wish to discuss what was on the application. They were mostly interested in what I wanted, the hours I was looking for and position.) So, this is still a "prayer in progress". :angel11:
You got the Job, I need not ask.....Congrates to you SherylShado, I ve had that happen to me on my interview for a job , and they told me it wasnt necessary for the application, youre hired..............after asking me what day i can you start right now. That was my prayer from God answered. Because i asked God always to go before me in anything i do before i do it in life to prepare my pathway for me so it wont be blocked by satan wiles, pitchforks, or devil advocates..... Sheryl stay prayed up sister...its your only guard against the world.
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I feel so sorry for those who have not placed their trust in the Lord Jesus Christ, God's gift to mankind, and the need they seem to have to bash God whenever they get a chance, and satan is surely urging them on for his selfish benefit. There is mighty powerful power in prayers. The only thing required is that you have the Lord in your heart and have accepted Him as your personal Saviour.
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I feel so sorry for those who have not placed their trust in the Lord Jesus Christ, God's gift to mankind, and the need they seem to have to bash God whenever they get a chance, and satan is surely urging them on for his selfish benefit. There is mighty powerful power in prayers. The only thing required is that you have the Lord in your heart and have accepted Him as your personal Saviour.
Heh...well...if you would take your head out of the sand for a second and face reality-
The reason we are skeptical of/bash it/mock it/talk about it so much is because your system of belief has this primitive hold on your mind (and a big chunk of our society) that thinks you can go around flaunting this thing that we want nothing to do with and that you'll get no flak for it. You constantly curse the freethinkers/other believers with "If u don't believe what I do, you're gonna go to hell!" and crap like that. You even did in your last post! That's annoying to say because you are cursing people and you're too naive to see it. Might as well just say " Don't believe what I believe? WELL F YOU!" while you're at it. I have had plenty of personal saviors in my life and I'm happy and appreciative that they were there for me. None of them involved your cosmic jewish zombie or your evil deity because only delusional individuals have imaginary friends that they telepathically talk to. We don't want to be in the delusional category- we LIKE reality.
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Yes prayers are very powerful :angel12: Some people don't believe in praying, but when things go bad they're the first to start praying.
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you better believe prayers are powerful...if they werent I wouldnt have made it this far in life!!
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Congratulations on your new job, Sheryl! I'm glad it's worked out for you. I agree with you that this is an example of where you, yourself, were headed where you thought you wanted to work, but God intervened in His will and way and guided the application in a different direction where He knew you would be much more happier. Keep on doing what you're doing!! :)
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I feel so sorry for those who have not placed their trust in the Lord Jesus Christ, God's gift to mankind, and the need they seem to have to bash God whenever they get a chance, and satan is surely urging them on for his selfish benefit. There is mighty powerful power in prayers. The only thing required is that you have the Lord in your heart and have accepted Him as your personal Saviour.
I agree. I know it's hard for some people to believe in God but that's where the faith and trust come into it. Like you said, the only thing we need to do is have faith and trust in the Lord as Saviour. He's offering the free gift of salvation and all we need to do (for those who choose to or not choose to) is accept that free gift. The reward is eternity with Him. However, for some people, it's not that easy to do that, and for others, they choose not to accept the Lord now or ever. Some people just want outward proof/reality, like "Doubting Thomas" did after Jesus's resurrection, but in today's world, after the death and resurrection of Jesus, the way to God is through faith. All we can do is uplift them in prayer, but it's their decision in the end. :)
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I don't think prayers are powerful actually I believe that prayer is one of the most powerful things in the world, God listen to our prayers and respond to it, in my belief prayer is the only way to talk to god the only occasion you can be with God no one in between you talk freely, you are not embarrassed to tell God how weak you are and how do you need god to help you
in my belief too God loves us to pray and to ask for things because God loves to respond to our requests God loves to make our wishes come true
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Yes! prayers are powerful if you have a relationship with ''God'' are, if you have someone to call are go to like; a relative, pastor, or etc. God even hear's our prayers when we come to him and I believe that when you are sincere that he will answer. ''Not when you want him to'',but he's always right on time. You have to believe in your heart and have faith when you go to him or if you have someone else to do it for you that he is going to work the situation out.
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I agree with you Lynn, Prayer does work and miracles happen when we pray. If we look around at familys who go to church & pray together,
there is peace and happiness, together-ness... family with parents who smoke, drink and party and torn apart. That is a prime example
yet so many are blinded by the evil angel of light??? They prefer death styles instead of life styles, Satan is the father of lies and death.
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TRUE !!!!!
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Yes I truly believe that prayers do work. You need to have faith for them to be answered. I don't do anything without praying. A lot has happened to me in my life, and I wouldn't be able to be here today if I didn't pray to God.
Veronica Smith
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One of the greatest powers operating in the earth (beside the word of God) is prayer (in Jesus' name)