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Discussion Boards => Support => Topic started by: Cuppycake on June 04, 2011, 09:47:15 am
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Cheaters that have not made a single solitary legitimate post. Every single "post" is nothing more then a quote made by someone who is actually participating. I think we need a CHEATER section so that legitimate forum users may post the names of cheaters.
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I'm not getting you there ... I've seen plenty of posts that are posts, not just quotes. perhaps in my addled brain I'm not understanding your meaning. I do see some people who are using the quotes, but it does help those who don't want to scroll endlessly to find out what their answer applies to.
hmmm, welll, whatever.
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I'm not getting you there ... I've seen plenty of posts that are posts, not just quotes. perhaps in my addled brain I'm not understanding your meaning. I do see some people who are using the quotes, but it does help those who don't want to scroll endlessly to find out what their answer applies to.
hmmm, welll, whatever.
What I am saying is there are people trying to get the $3 for posting by doing NOTHING more then "quoting" people and not adding any content of their own what-so-ever.
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"What I am saying is there are people trying to get the $3 for posting by doing NOTHING more then "quoting" people and not adding any content of their own what-so-ever."
Cuppycake,
To answer your query, doesn't FC review all of our posts and only count helpful or contributory posts during their evaluations? Since FC staff is doing the reviews, not us, I say leave it to them.
I don't think it's appropriate to point fingers at other members. It's simply not our place. If someone is not playing by the rules, FC will take the appropriate action. Trust me. :peace:
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I'm pretty sure that fusion cash does not credit those kind of posts. I've seen too many people complaining about their bonus request being denied with replies from admin telling them why (too few words, non contributory, etc.). I don't know if tattling on other people would count toward the bonus either.
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It's hard - everytime in the contests section I try to put my post in five, three, or a zillion others have "replied" - and I keep hoping every time I press "post" I'm not repeating myself here! I am also trying to do my paid to write article editing while doing this!
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I don`t think it would be right to do that to others. Fc does review everyone`s post, so i will leave that too Fc.
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I hardly think they hand review every single solitary post that is submitted. But believe what you choose...
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I hardly think they hand review every single solitary post that is submitted. But believe what you choose...
Here's what the Administrator posted under the topic: ONGOING PROMOTION: Forum Participation Bonus - $3 per month!
- You must make the posts during a calendar month as measured by FusionCash's official time (located in the top right of each page).
- Bonuses will be credited at the end of following month; please allow UP TO 65 days for crediting.
- A contributory post is one that offers some insight, makes people laugh, carries a conversation, provides information or help, or something along those lines. It's not spam, or an attempt to make money for oneself, and it's not short or missing content. Basically, if you post just to meet the 30 post requirement, you wont qualify.
If you doubt they review all the posts, then just do your 30-post minimum and don't worry about it. For myself, I'll be posting at least 2-3 posts per day to be SURE I qualify. Believe what you wish or why not pose the question directly to Kohler? His input is always enlightening. :thumbsup:
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I'm sure there are people trying to create shortcuts. I'd rather just keeping making my 30+ posts a month and continue to get to know the folks that make an effort to contribute. I've learned a lot here from many that contribute some great input.
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It is so easy to post a reply. Don't know why anyone would want to spend time on here and not participate. It is so much fun! Can learn many new things here, also!
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I hardly think they hand review every single solitary post that is submitted. But believe what you choose...
Here's what the Administrator posted under the topic: ONGOING PROMOTION: Forum Participation Bonus - $3 per month!
- You must make the posts during a calendar month as measured by FusionCash's official time (located in the top right of each page).
- Bonuses will be credited at the end of following month; please allow UP TO 65 days for crediting.
- A contributory post is one that offers some insight, makes people laugh, carries a conversation, provides information or help, or something along those lines. It's not spam, or an attempt to make money for oneself, and it's not short or missing content. Basically, if you post just to meet the 30 post requirement, you wont qualify.
If you doubt they review all the posts, then just do your 30-post minimum and don't worry about it. For myself, I'll be posting at least 2-3 posts per day to be SURE I qualify. Believe what you wish or why not pose the question directly to Kohler? His input is always enlightening. :thumbsup:
A. I have no problem what-so-ever posting. I have been posting more then 30 posts per month long before they even had the pay to post.
B. Did you even read what we were talking about ?
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Yes, I did. My question is: why not let the FC staff police the posting, Cuppycake?
You seem very adamant about this issue. I did not mean to get you riled up. Sorry. I just don't understand why you're so up in arms about it.
I'll just mind my own business. I don't want to start an argument. Life's too short. This is my last post on this subject. :peace:
Did you not understand that I said this was my last post on the subject? Okay,fine, have it your way, but this is it. I STRONGLY believe that the FC staff takes the time to review every one of our posts to be sure we have at least 30 CONTRIBUTORY posts. It's in the rules, right? Now, please just drop it already. :peace:
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Yes, I did. My question is: why not let the FC staff police the posting, Cuppycake?
You seem very adamant about this issue. I did not mean to get you riled up. Sorry. I just don't understand why you're so up in arms about it.
I'll just mind my own business. I don't want to start an argument. Life's too short. This is my last post on this subject. :peace:
Because I am sick of seeing "posts" that are only quotes of of what people are saying. This NEVER happened before paid to post. It is annoying to me to see it because I know that they are ONLY doing that to have a "qualified" post for the paid to post. Assuming that Fusioncash does in fact review the posts they would only be reviewing the 3 submitted posts no the total content. It would only take 3 actual posts by these cheaters to get paid for the posts. Obviously they are getting the bonus if they are continuing to make these fraudulent posts. Why are you so against a cheaters section any way ?
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Yes, I did. My question is: why not let the FC staff police the posting, Cuppycake?
You seem very adamant about this issue. I did not mean to get you riled up. Sorry. I just don't understand why you're so up in arms about it.
I'll just mind my own business. I don't want to start an argument. Life's too short. This is my last post on this subject. :peace:
Because I am sick of seeing "posts" that are only quotes of of what people are saying. This NEVER happened before paid to post. It is annoying to me to see it because I know that they are ONLY doing that to have a "qualified" post for the paid to post. Assuming that Fusioncash does in fact review the posts they would only be reviewing the 3 submitted posts no the total content. It would only take 3 actual posts by these cheaters to get paid for the posts. Obviously they are getting the bonus if they are continuing to make these fraudulent posts. Why are you so against a cheaters section any way ?
Here is an idea. Stop venting to the rest of us about it. If you truly believe that FC is unaware of this issue and you want them to look into it, then FILE A SUPPORT TICKET. :BangHead:
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I have seen the posts your talking about...several in fact. They click on "quote"...scroll down and click on "post" without adding any comments or remarks of their own.
I trust that FC will manage the issue as they see fit. We are expected to submit examples of our posts to prove that they are qualifying posts for the $3 credit. If there are members out there that do only a few posts to use in their examples they submit, then they are taking a big chance in whether they get the credit or not.
I understand your issue with "cheaters" and if FC likes your suggestion to create a thread where "cheaters" can be reported, and if FC wants the help of other members in tracking who makes legitimate posts according to the rules, I am sure they will do just that. I can see where reporting members suspected of cheating to create a red flag to help FC monitor this issue may be helpful, but that also opens up a door for other members to start wars with someone that they don't see eye to eye with or whatever. It is possible that those who are doing this just don't know how to use the system properly or are just not very skilled in the use of computers. Maybe they also have 30 legitimate posts in addition to the "cheating" or error posts they make. ???
My guess is that in addition to the 3 example posts we submit for the bonus they also read most of our other posts to verify we are following the rules and doing what is expected. There is a reason it takes so much time to get the credit...I bet it is because they are using that time to look at our posts to be sure they are valid.
Personally, my conscience would not allow me to submit for my bonus if any of those 30 posts were "cheating" posts. If I am going to take the time to do the work for the bonus, I want to be sure I get the credit.
Just my opinion.
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considering the fact that administrators from time to time reply to some of the posts, including those made in the middle of a thread, it appears that yes, they do read these from time to time. Even if it's not every week. Also, they don't just give you the three dollars as soon as you put your request in! There's quite a wait - which could also give them time necessary to review things. And if I'm wrong on this so be it. But I think if I were running this place and giving members three dollars each a month to contribute decent posts, I would be checking them from time to time! Especially since this is bonus money.
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Yes, I did. My question is: why not let the FC staff police the posting, Cuppycake?
You seem very adamant about this issue. I did not mean to get you riled up. Sorry. I just don't understand why you're so up in arms about it.
I'll just mind my own business. I don't want to start an argument. Life's too short. This is my last post on this subject. :peace:
Because I am sick of seeing "posts" that are only quotes of of what people are saying. This NEVER happened before paid to post. It is annoying to me to see it because I know that they are ONLY doing that to have a "qualified" post for the paid to post. Assuming that Fusioncash does in fact review the posts they would only be reviewing the 3 submitted posts no the total content. It would only take 3 actual posts by these cheaters to get paid for the posts. Obviously they are getting the bonus if they are continuing to make these fraudulent posts. Why are you so against a cheaters section any way ?
Here is an idea. Stop venting to the rest of us about it. If you truly believe that FC is unaware of this issue and you want them to look into it, then FILE A SUPPORT TICKET. :BangHead:
I have a an idea for you lol ! How about you stop constantly editing your posts ! It makes you look very wishy-washy and and quite silly ! And if my thread bothers you soo much you need to ":BangHead:" then perhaps you should stop reading it as often as you edit your posts!
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I sure hope that FC doesn't stop the paid to post because of all this arguing about it. If FC thinks there is a problem they will deal with it. So just do your posts and don't worry about what anyone else does. You don't have to read the posts if you don't want, just scroll past those ones. I really don't see why anyone would get so worked up about this issue that they have to argue. Everyone has their own opinion, if you don't agree with someone's opinion, then just ignore it.
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wow i guess some people take this 3 dollar thing to serious!!! :-
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Administrator,
Please weigh in on this issue. Personally, I do not believe it is either constructive or helpful to criticize the quality or validity of another member's posts. In my opinion, it is not our place. Checking members' posts should be handled by the FC staff. I apologize if I have upset anyone with any of my posts. It was certainly not my intent, but I do defend my right to have an opinion without being attacked for doing so.
Here are the questions at hand.
(1) Does FC review all posts before issuing the $3/mo forum posting bonus?
(2) Should we police the forum as Cuppycake seems to be suggesting or should we leave it to the FC staff?
I appreciate any input from the Administrator. Thank you.
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We do have spammers who come in here and break the rules. They come in and post their up and coming website, and we should follow them and make more money outside Fusion Cash, etc. Totally against Fusion Cash policy.
I don't believe they read every post, but are pretty good at spotting someone playing the system. This is a good site, and we want it to stay that way. It's okay for Cuppycake to notice something that seems unfair or wrong, and say something about it. This is a public forum and anyone can post what they want or think, within the Fusion Cash rules.
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I sure hope that FC doesn't stop the paid to post because of all this arguing about it. If FC thinks there is a problem they will deal with it. So just do your posts and don't worry about what anyone else does. You don't have to read the posts if you don't want, just scroll past those ones. I really don't see why anyone would get so worked up about this issue that they have to argue. Everyone has their own opinion, if you don't agree with someone's opinion, then just ignore it.
I agree, everyone is entitled to their own opinion. I can't imagine FC would see this issue as arguing about it just because someone posts an opinion that many do not agree with. Nor can I imagine they would nix the paid to post bonus because people are voicing their opinions. At least I sure hope not. I enjoy the forum, and the bonus for posting in it. That's the nice thing about FC having a forum, unlike the other sites, and a forum is for posting just about anything (appropriate)..it encourages participation, and in the forums we learn from each other, especially about offers and such..and those offers we learn about in our discussions with each other helps boost the money FC makes, and in turn, the money we make. And all the various topics we can discuss just helps to foster the "community" we are all members of.
The forums have helped keep me active (as well as entertained) on this site. :thumbsup:
Thanks FC.
:peace:
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Well, I'm relatively new here and have seen some of the posts Cuppycake is talking about. It's unfair to those people who do submit real posts, and not just quote something to get to the 30 per month. They're taking up space in threads, and not contributing. I'd say the best way to handle them is to report their posts, and let the moderators take care of it. Quite frankly, it's a distraction and a nuisance.
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Maybe you could apply for the job, I am sure FC knows what they are doing with the Forum bonus, I think if it bothered me as much as it seems to you, I might spend less time reading them. Just saying.... :wave:
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well said lindaroof
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Maybe you could apply for the job, I am sure FC knows what they are doing with the Forum bonus, I think if it bothered me as much as it seems to you, I might spend less time reading them. Just saying.... :wave:
No, that bit of sarcasm was not well said.
As cuppycake was saying, there was nothing to read, they were just taking someone's posting, copying it, and putting it under their own ID, as if it were their post. It would be irritating to me also if I saw someone doing that with my posts.
If it's against Fusion Cash rules (and it is), then anyone has a right to voice their displeasure and unfairness about it, without getting a bunch of flack for doing so. It's surprising how some in this thread jumped on her for just voicing her opinion. Read the whole thread before commenting. Ask yourself how would you feel if this was happening to you?
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i don't think i've seen too much of this copy/paste quote stuff, but i can say who really cares?!
i'm sure they're new members that probably find it hard to make 30 posts. especially when they really don't know much about the site.
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Well, I'm relatively new here and have seen some of the posts Cuppycake is talking about. It's unfair to those people who do submit real posts, and not just quote something to get to the 30 per month. They're taking up space in threads, and not contributing. I'd say the best way to handle them is to report their posts, and let the moderators take care of it. Quite frankly, it's a distraction and a nuisance.
I do report the posts! I don't let that slide at all. Obviously though there are many here that think it is perfectly acceptable behavior. It does make me question the character of the people that condone that activity.
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What about cheaters? I hope and pray no one I know are cheaters. I watch the show every saturday night and watch the show. I think it is great and gald they catch those cheaters. My husband is a good husband and not a cheater. Who do you know that's a cheater?
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i think i like the way it is, even though i joined yesterday :angel11:
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What about cheaters? I hope and pray no one I know are cheaters. I watch the show every saturday night and watch the show. I think it is great and gald they catch those cheaters. My husband is a good husband and not a cheater. Who do you know that's a cheater?
Oh my. You did not read the topic at all...
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I dont think people should get mad about you expressing how you feel. I would email the admin and let them know. People who just do quotes or just put like similey faces as their post should not be credited. I hope they dont but apparently if they didnt get the money then they would stop. I agree with your point
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I know some people may not write what we all think they should but some people don't like to write large amounts. I agree that we should leave this to the people at fusion, they set up the rules and if they feel that someone is not doing what they are supposed to do then they should be the ones that make the comments. I know that I try to write something that is useful and informative everytime i write something but I am sure that some people don't like the things that I write.
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I guess we could list the cheaters on this thread since it already has the appropriate name. I don't actually remember seeing any posts like this so maybe you could post the link and we can tell newbys..This is not an appropriate post and have an example.
Of course you might get a lot of posters thinking it is the tv show...lol
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What about cheaters? I hope and pray no one I know are cheaters. I watch the show every saturday night and watch the show. I think it is great and gald they catch those cheaters. My husband is a good husband and not a cheater. Who do you know that's a cheater?
Oh my. You did not read the topic at all...
And some people can't figure out why they don't get credit, ...to "contribute" to the topic it DOES help if you actually READ the posts to know for sure what the topic is that is being discussed.
I don't watch the TV show "Cheaters", so I didn 't even think of that as I read the posts in this thread...but I guess some people are just so anxious to get in their 30 posts, they don't really pay much attention.
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I know I've seen the occasional quoted post with nothing added, but I've seen that behavior on other sites where someone either didn't know what they were doing or it was an accidental post, so I didn't pay it much mind. Can't say I've seen a lot of those type of posts.
If the posts being discussed are not quotes, but individuals actually copying someone else's post and submitting the text as a "new" post - can't say I've noticed that either. If this is going on, that is definitely plagiarism and definitely against the rules.
I disagree with having a special forum to report such activities, as I've seen that done on other forums and they usually breed more issues than they solve. First it opens doors to individuals who feel it's "funny" to report random people who've done nothing wrong. Then the people who are reporting guilty individuals start being treated differently on the boards as they are seen as police/narcs, which usually leads to hurt feelings all around.
Probably the best thing is to raise awareness of the issue (as this thread has done), and encourage people to contact FC directly to report users that are habitually not "playing by the rules" so their team can pay closer attention to them when reviewing PTP entries. The only caution is don't report people who may accidentally post a quote without contribution on occasion - be sure the behavior is regular so one does not accidentally report someone's honest mistake.
Just my 2 cents.
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Great post, kapeh12. That about sums up the issue. We have a "report post" function that sends a message directly to the moderators without disclosing the identity of the reporter.
Some people try to cheat the system, but we have the tools to pretty effectively catch them. I am sure that someone who doesn't deserve the bonus gets it once in a while, but plagiarized or low-content posts don't seem to be a huge issue on here. I also think that many times people are overwhelmed or inexperienced with forum software and this leads to a lot of the strange looking posts.
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Ok you guys! What ever happened about the most important rule of all. Be nice. We are all people with feelings. If you are going to post something may I suggest to think before you post. If you think that it might cause an argument then don't post it. We're suppose to be having some fun and this is a great way to talk to a lot of interesting people. BE NICE GUYS! :angel11: