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Did anyone go and support them today? I did! ;D
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Did anyone go and support them today? I did! ;D
No however, I'm considering supporting class-action litigation against the the xtian fundies under federal law.
The company discriminates against non-xtians and has been sued regarding this several times before:
http://www.forbes.com/forbes/2007/0723/080.html
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Did anyone go and support them today? I did! ;D
No however, I'm considering supporting class-action litigation against the the xtian fundies under federal law.
The company discriminates against non-xtians and has been sued regarding this several times before:
http://www.forbes.com/forbes/2007/0723/080.html
You have absolutely no proof that they discriminate against non Christians. It is your blind hatred that prompts you to pursue suppression of freedom of religion and the free speech of Christians. You display the same characteristics of the radical left wing anti-Christian liberals that wish to ban and remove the existence of this entity. You would gladly deny them their Constitutional rights simply to sate your hatred of Christians. You are a blind follower of your hate and have an irrational hatred for Christians -- this is quite comical when compared and contrasted with your accusations against Christians. I am not sure if you are a typical arstiest or if you exemplify the extremist views of the radical totalitarian arstiests. That you are pathetic and irrational and blinded by hatred, though, I am sure of.
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Did anyone go and support them today? I did! ;D
No however, I'm considering supporting class-action litigation against the the xtian fundies under federal law.
The company discriminates against non-xtians and has been sued regarding this several times before:
http://www.forbes.com/forbes/2007/0723/080.html
You have absolutely no proof that they discriminate against non Christians.
Actually, such evidence is provided by that company's own interview, hiring practices and religious retreat materials along with dozens of applicant depositions.
It is your blind hatred that prompts you to pursue suppression of freedom of religion and the free speech of Christians.
On the contrary, it is that company's discriminatory employment practices which prompted all the previous lawsuits and continues to provide a basis for further litigation.
That you are pathetic and irrational and blinded by hatred, though, I am sure of.
Your attempts at insult fall flat due to their illogical basis and your own religious blind faith. It remains unclear whether this constitutes a barely functional stupidity on your part or not.
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Did anyone go and support them today? I did! ;D
No however, I'm considering supporting class-action litigation against the the xtian fundies under federal law.
The company discriminates against non-xtians and has been sued regarding this several times before:
http://www.forbes.com/forbes/2007/0723/080.html
You have absolutely no proof that they discriminate against non Christians.
Actually, such evidence is provided by that company's own interview, hiring practices and religious retreat materials along with dozens of applicant depositions.
It is your blind hatred that prompts you to pursue suppression of freedom of religion and the free speech of Christians.
On the contrary, it is that company's discriminatory employment practices which prompted all the previous lawsuits and continues to provide a basis for further litigation.
That you are pathetic and irrational and blinded by hatred, though, I am sure of.
Your attempts at insult fall flat due to their illogical basis and your own religious blind faith. It remains unclear whether this constitutes a barely functional stupidity on your part or not.
Show this evidence then. Unlike every single other claim you have ever made why don't you finally show some evidence? Burden of proof as you so love to claim. It should be rather simple with the emphasis you place upon your declaration.
I apologize for hurting your feelings and hopefully you did not cry. My statements were not meant to cause you emotional discomfort but simply to point out just how absurd you sound when taken at your statements.
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You have absolutely no proof that they discriminate against non Christians.
The company discriminates against non-xtians and has been sued regarding this several times before:
http://www.forbes.com/forbes/2007/0723/080.html
Actually, such evidence is provided by that company's own interview, hiring practices and religious retreat materials along with dozens of applicant depositions.
Show this evidence then.
Go find the previous court transcripts yourself, or don't. Maybe someone will present these here however, as this pertains to pending litigation, you can read those transcripts once the cases are heard in court.
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I think tolerance works both ways. The gay community asks for tolerance from society, chik fil a has the same right (to ask for tolerance in not supporting the gay movement). In my opinion, neither is wrong here. As culture moves in a direction that is more accepting of different lifestyles there will be inevitable clashes with people who don't move along with it. We aren't all on the same social convoy. The biggest thing is that no crime should be committed on either side.
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I think tolerance works both ways. ... chik fil a has the same right (to ask for tolerance in not supporting the gay movement).
Intolerance, (as in Chick-fil-A's not supporting the gay movement or, discriminating against non-xtians), is the opposite of tolerance.
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No I didn't get out today.But I wished i could have.I was sick
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I have no problem with people that continue to eat there. If they previously enjoyed the fine sandwiches and waffle fries from chick-fil-a and want to continue that, have at it as they are very good.
BUT... if you went today for the first time, or today to "make a point", the only point you made was that you are an absolute puppet.
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I think tolerance works both ways. ... chik fil a has the same right (to ask for tolerance in not supporting the gay movement).
I think my point was clear, but feel free to define and point out mistakes as you wish. I am sure there are several grammar issues, as I don't proof on survey site posts.
Gays should know they cant force people to accept them, and chick fil a doesnt have to. Chick fil a should know they are offending gays and may lose customers. Point being, you it works both ways.
Intolerance, (as in Chick-fil-A's not supporting the gay movement or, discriminating against non-xtians), is the opposite of tolerance.
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I think tolerance works both ways. ... chik fil a has the same right (to ask for tolerance in not supporting the gay movement).
Intolerance, (as in Chick-fil-A's not supporting the gay movement or, discriminating against non-xtians), is the opposite of tolerance.
Discriminating would mean not serving them. The workers dont screen the customers asking if they are gay or not and then providing food based on the answer.
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We don't have a Chick-fil-a where I'm from. What a bummer. Oh well, maybe I'll go next time I go to the mainland. :)
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Discriminating would mean not serving them. The workers dont screen the customers asking if they are gay or not and then providing food based on the answer.
No, the matter concerns employment discrimination, not discriminating against customers.
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:)
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I think my point was clear, but feel free to define and point out mistakes as you wish. I am sure there are several grammar issues, as I don't proof on survey site posts.
Your point missed the point and had less to do with grammar than with comprehending the contended issue. That contention regards whether or not Chick-fil-A is in violation of federal employment discrimination laws.
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I have seen less on hiring issues and more on gays should not be allowed to marry. I was stating my opinion on the latter issue. Which I have now done and will move on.
Enjoy surfing the board looking for things to argue about.
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I didn't because it was 40+ minute wait at my local ones. I think the entire situation is crazy. So what about the president of the companies views. Everyone has their own right. The company is based around Christian beliefs. Did he say he wouldn't serve the GBL community? Nope. Did he say he wouldn't hire the GBL community? Nope. He simply was stating his view on the GBL marriage. I agree it should stay between men and women. If you don't agree, that's fine. At least I can say I respect your view on the situation and move on.
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I didn't because it was 40+ minute wait at my local ones. I think the entire situation is crazy. So what about the president of the companies views. Everyone has their own right. The company is based around Christian beliefs. Did he say he wouldn't serve the GBL community? Nope. Did he say he wouldn't hire the GBL community? Nope. He simply was stating his view on the GBL marriage. I agree it should stay between men and women. If you don't agree, that's fine. At least I can say I respect your view on the situation and move on.
Ditto
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I have seen less on hiring issues and more on gays should not be allowed to marry. I was stating my opinion on the latter issue. Which I have now done and will move on.
Good for you however, the context of this thread had more to do with a company having discriminatory fundamentalist xtian hiring/employment practices than to do with gays marrying at Chick-fil-A outlets.
Enjoy surfing the board looking for things to argue about.
This isn't a difficult task, given such dimwitted posts as yours to reply to.
"He that will not reason is a bigot; he that cannot reason is a fool; he that dares not reason is a slave."
-- William Drummond
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I dont appreciate the insult, and suggest you review the rules.
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I dont appreciate the insult, and suggest you review the rules.
I don't appreciate the snide attitude which preceded the "insult" and therefore followed the spirit of the "Golden Rule"; you insulted the intelligence of those reading the thread and that was returned in kind. To wit:
Discriminating would mean not serving them. The workers dont screen the customers asking if they are gay or not and then providing food based on the answer.
No, the matter concerns employment discrimination, not discriminating against customers.
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I have seen less on hiring issues and more on gays should not be allowed to marry. I was stating my opinion on the latter issue. Which I have now done and will move on.
Good for you however, the context of this thread had more to do with a company having discriminatory fundamentalist xtian hiring/employment practices than to do with gays marrying at Chick-fil-A outlets.
No it doesn't. Once again I must ask you if you ever think before you post or if you simply spew out your hate filled rhetoric?
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I have seen less on hiring issues and more on gays should not be allowed to marry. I was stating my opinion on the latter issue. Which I have now done and will move on.
Good for you however, the context of this thread had more to do with a company having discriminatory fundamentalist xtian hiring/employment practices than to do with gays marrying at Chick-fil-A outlets.
No it doesn't.
Still laboring under that delusion where you mistakenly believe you get to redefine context, are you? Well, at least it serves as a side dish to your other religious self-delusions, (which is why you support the religiously-based discriminatory employment practices of that 'full-of-chickenshit' xtian business).
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WE don't have a chikfila here--but i would chose to not go, because i don't agree with the company. I don't understand why people (or a whole company for this matter) has to push their beliefs on others. If you agree with them, then it's your right to support them--I don't, so obviously i wouldn't support them. I guarantee there are gays that work for chik fil a and if i were them i would be pretty mad if the top man in my company said that we were all against gay marriage, because, unless i was very self defeating, i would be for gay marriage.
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WE don't have a chikfila here--but i would chose to not go, because i don't agree with the company. I don't understand why people (or a whole company for this matter) has to push their beliefs on others. If you agree with them, then it's your right to support them--I don't, so obviously i wouldn't support them. I guarantee there are gays that work for chik fil a and if i were them i would be pretty mad if the top man in my company said that we were all against gay marriage, because, unless i was very self defeating, i would be for gay marriage.
Although I've seen a few of those chicken shacks around, I've never eaten there for two main reasons. One, you mentioned, (along with my being against blind religious faith dictating hiring & employment practices), and the other being that friends who have eaten there have stated that their food is much crappier than KFC.
Besides those reasons, how would some xtians feel if a company decided to hire only satanists and eschewed xtians? There'd be civil suits stacked up for blocks around courthouses, that's how - hypocrits.
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No, there isn't one around here. Guess I'm out of the loop as to what they are up to.
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Falcon9 according to your own words you must be a bigot, fool and a slave. Be careful what you write. :dontknow:
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My personal opinion is that the head of Chick-fil-a is entitled to his opinion as his right of free speech in the USA.
Whether I agree or disagree with his opinion should have no bearing where his company can or can not do business.
People can choose whether or not they want to go to one of their stores for themselves.
The last time I checked I still live in the United States of America where I can speak and chose for myself freely
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I tried to eat ther but the line was wrapped around the building where i live. The drive thru and the people standing in line. Everyone had the right to their opinion, beliefs, etc. Why do we as a society worry so much about what is said than to try to fix and work on the bigger issues in life.
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they did the right thing
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I tried to eat ther but the line was wrapped around the building where i live. The drive thru and the people standing in line. Everyone had the right to their opinion, beliefs, etc. Why do we as a society worry so much about what is said than to try to fix and work on the bigger issues in life.
R U KIDDING ME!!!!!! I get a kick out of Black people that don't support gay rights. Umm there were people lined up around the block to support segregation in the 50's. The fact that you don't have to sit in the back of the bus is because a small portion of the population had the courage to fight for YOUR rights. They already had their rights. They saw how your people were being treated unfairly and fought to change that.
Pay it forward.
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I never heard of a chickfila. They don't have one in my area.
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Most of the newer Chick Fil A's are now franchises, so the head office does not have any say over who they hire. I feel like the statement he made is his opinion and he has every right to say that. Each of you has the right to go or not go to spend your money at their stores. You each have the right to give your opinion or not give it. We all have the right to think, that guys is nuts or not.
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We don't have a Chick-Fil-A in our town but I was in another town on Saturday so my daughter and I ate there even though it didn't count. I was showing support in my own little way for the man standing up for his beliefs. Since we don't have one in our town, I did not know for years that they closed on Sunday so their employees can be free to worship. I think thats great.
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I support them, but wasn't able to get to a restaurant!
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I love Chick-Fil-A but they are kind of expensive so I only eat there when I have a coupon. I will continue to eat there. It's not like they prevent gay people from eating there. I'm sure there are gay people that work there.
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I have seen less on hiring issues and more on gays should not be allowed to marry. I was stating my opinion on the latter issue. Which I have now done and will move on.
Good for you however, the context of this thread had more to do with a company having discriminatory fundamentalist xtian hiring/employment practices than to do with gays marrying at Chick-fil-A outlets.
No it doesn't.
Still laboring under that delusion where you mistakenly believe you get to redefine context, are you? Well, at least it serves as a side dish to your other religious self-delusions, (which is why you support the religiously-based discriminatory employment practices of that 'full-of-chickenshit' xtian business).
The context of this thread had nothing to do with what you tried to make it into with your typical hijack. As an American, I support the Constitution and freedom of religion. You seem to support the suppression of our Constitutional rights. All you ever do is dip, dodge, duck, dive, and dance around the forums seeking to apply your persecution against those with religious beliefs and moral values.
So, Dance for us Clownboy! Dance!
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We don't have one in our town. But will still eat at one in the bigger cities if they have one. They usually have good food and it is quick when i am traveling.
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I completely advocate marriage equality. However, I full admit that I may eat at Chick-fil-a in the future if the mood strikes me.
However, if you went yesterday at least admit you went to show your disapproval of homosexuality and not your "support" of free speech. Because in no way has the CEO of Chick-fil-a's first amendment rights been violated. he faces no legal repercussions for his words.
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Falcon9 according to your own words you must be a bigot, fool and a slave. Be careful what you write. :dontknow:
Which words? The ones you misinterpret or, cannot accurately comprehend?
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The context of this thread had nothing to do with what you tried to make it into ...
Of course not, fundie.
"The Cult of Chick-fil-A:
Chick-fil-A's corporate mission, as stated on a plaque at company headquarters (and by Cathy), is to "glorify God."
Chick-fil-A, the corporate parent, has been sued at least 12 times since 1988 on charges of employment discrimination, according to records in U.S. District Courts."
http://www.forbes.com/forbes/2007/0723/080.html
All you ever do ... dance around the forums seeking to apply your persecution against those with religious beliefs and moral values.
How is objecting to religious proselytization "persecution" in your biased xtian twisted non-reasoned crusade to suppress opposition to such fundamentalism?
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I've never eaten there. I did not know about their views until recently and because of their views, I will NEVER give them one dime.
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I have no problem with people that continue to eat there. If they previously enjoyed the fine sandwiches and waffle fries from chick-fil-a and want to continue that, have at it as they are very good.
BUT... if you went today for the first time, or today to "make a point", the only point you made was that you are an absolute puppet.
I agree!
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yes, my family and I ate at Chick fil a
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Didn't get a chance to, but would have if my hubby and I had the time.
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My personal opinion is that the head of Chick-fil-a is entitled to his opinion as his right of free speech in the USA.
Whether I agree or disagree with his opinion should have no bearing where his company can or can not do business.
People can choose whether or not they want to go to one of their stores for themselves.
The last time I checked I still live in the United States of America where I can speak and chose for myself freely
Absolutely! :peace:
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a silly issue
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God bless the people who stood up for freedom of speech. Unfortunately the left/far-left doesn't believe in it except for themselves. No one else has a right to a opinion if it disagrees with them.
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God bless the people who stood up for freedom of speech. Unfortunately the left/far-left doesn't believe in it except for themselves. No one else has a right to a opinion if it disagrees with them.
What a crock of theist fertilizer. Apparently, those xtian fundies who espouse such prejudicial nonsense don't include opposition to it under that same "freedom of speech".
"Satan hasn't a single salaried helper; the Opposition employ a million."
-- Mark Twain
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i totaly support chik -fil-a i do not beleave in this gay crap moraly it is wrong and it is sick to look at
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i totaly support chik -fil-a i do not beleave in this gay crap moraly it is wrong and it is sick to look at
"Seig Heil?"
“The government of the United States is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion.”
--– John Adams
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No one's freedom of speech was ever in danger! The CEO was not in legal jeopardy for what he said. Refusing to do business with a bigot is not violating free speech, it is exercising capitalism.
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I have seen less on hiring issues and more on gays should not be allowed to marry. I was stating my opinion on the latter issue. Which I have now done and will move on.
The context of this thread had more to do with a company having discriminatory fundamentalist xtian hiring/employment practices than to do with gays marrying ...
No it doesn't.
http://thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/chick-fil-a-sued-for-firing-pregnant-woman-so-she-could-be-a-stay-home-mom/legal-issues/2012/07/26/44701
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/07/27/1114244/-Another-Headache-for-Chick-fil-A-Sued-for-Gender-Discrimination
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All you ever do is dip, dodge, duck, dive, and dance around the forums.........
WOO-HOO!!!! Go, falcon9, GO!!
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No I did not I don't eat from there.
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Yes I eat there and as far as I'm concerned they are doing nothing wrong but having the right to stand up for our freedom of speech just like me you and everyone else does. Ate there on wed and thur.!
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Yes I eat there and as far as I'm concerned they are doing nothing wrong but having the right to stand up for our freedom of speech just like me you and everyone else does.
Freedom of speech is neither one-sided nor includes discrimination of the basis of religion.
http://thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/chick-fil-a-sued-for-firing-pregnant-woman-so-she-could-be-a-stay-home-mom/legal-issues/2012/07/26/44701
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/07/27/1114244/-Another-Headache-for-Chick-fil-A-Sued-for-Gender-Discrimination
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Love the person; hate the sin.
In the beginning, God created man and woman. .....not woman and woman or man and man.
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I was reading from a reliable source, Mike Adams of Natural News, that Chic Fil A's food is unhealthy and contain MSG.
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I know this forum is freedom of speech but we as people should show respect in what we post. The comment about getting a kick out of balck people not supporting gay rights because people lines up to fight for us was unnecessary. No one should be dicriminated against for any reason. In the beginning there was Adam and Eve, man and woman. There was not man and man nor woman and woman. If people want to be bisexual thats their choice and like any other choice we make in life we have to deal with them. Regardless they should be treated with respect just as anyone else. So lets not make race a factor in this.
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Did anyone go and support them today? I did! ;D
Support senseless bigotry? Never.
I support this:
http://news.yahoo.com/chick-fil-opponents-stage-same-sex-kiss-225747622.html
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....crock of theist fertilizer.
That, sir, is a wonderfully descriptive choice of words!
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Did anyone go and support them today? I did! ;D
Support senseless bigotry? Never.
I support this:
http://news.yahoo.com/chick-fil-opponents-stage-same-sex-kiss-225747622.html
If they can support a 'supernatural' basis of belief, I can support more 'recalls' such as this:
"Chick-fil-A’s Vice President of Public Relations Don Perry died “suddenly” Friday, (8-3-12), morning, the company confirmed."
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/07/chick-fil-as-vice-president-of-public-relations-dies-of-heart-attack/
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I know this forum is freedom of speech but we as people should show respect in what we post. The comment about getting a kick out of balck people not supporting gay rights because people lines up to fight for us was unnecessary. No one should be dicriminated against for any reason. In the beginning there was Adam and Eve, man and woman. There was not man and man nor woman and woman. If people want to be bisexual thats their choice and like any other choice we make in life we have to deal with them. Regardless they should be treated with respect just as anyone else. So lets not make race a factor in this.
Your original post said you tried to eat there. Only logical conclusion... you are against equal rights for homosexuals. Which leads to you DISCRIMINATING against homosexuals. Peoples religious beliefs USED to make it ok for black people to be slaves.
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I heard they are going to have a kissing protest there.
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I know this forum is freedom of speech but we as people should show respect in what we post. The comment about getting a kick out of balck people not supporting gay rights because people lines up to fight for us was unnecessary. No one should be dicriminated against for any reason. In the beginning there was Adam and Eve, man and woman. There was not man and man nor woman and woman. If people want to be bisexual thats their choice and like any other choice we make in life we have to deal with them. Regardless they should be treated with respect just as anyone else. So lets not make race a factor in this.
Your original post said you tried to eat there. Only logical conclusion... you are against equal rights for homosexuals. Which leads to you DISCRIMINATING against homosexuals. Peoples religious beliefs USED to make it ok for black people to be slaves.
Homosexuals can already get married anywhere that heterosexuals can, in some states they can even do this with the same sex (although that required a redefinition of marriage). While I have no problems at all with them also getting special privileges that married people have, I do not like them redefining what marriage is to do this. I also don't like it now being an issue of sex or love/lust as a qualifier to have this special privilege. I think this special privilege should be allowed to be bind-able between any two mutually agreeing people without any requirements that they have sex with each other or love each other.
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When people support a business I wonder why they are considered bigoted etc. Whatever happened to everyone having freedom of speech? That only seems to apply to people on the left. When the left goes on a rampage no one is helped - a kiss-a-thon by a bunch of people is just stupid. Supporting Chick-filet by buying something is a good thing.
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I know this forum is freedom of speech but we as people should show respect in what we post. The comment about getting a kick out of balck people not supporting gay rights because people lines up to fight for us was unnecessary. No one should be dicriminated against for any reason. In the beginning there was Adam and Eve, man and woman. There was not man and man nor woman and woman. If people want to be bisexual thats their choice and like any other choice we make in life we have to deal with them. Regardless they should be treated with respect just as anyone else. So lets not make race a factor in this.
Your original post said you tried to eat there. Only logical conclusion... you are against equal rights for homosexuals. Which leads to you DISCRIMINATING against homosexuals. Peoples religious beliefs USED to make it ok for black people to be slaves.
Homosexuals can already get married anywhere that heterosexuals can, in some states they can even do this with the same sex (although that required a redefinition of marriage). While I have no problems at all with them also getting special privileges that married people have, I do not like them redefining what marriage is to do this. I also don't like it now being an issue of sex or love/lust as a qualifier to have this special privilege. I think this special privilege should be allowed to be bind-able between any two mutually agreeing people without any requirements that they have sex with each other or love each other.
I don't mind leaving the word "marriage" to God. If it's a civil union were benefits can be passed, hospital visits granted and file a joint tax return
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Everyone have their opinions, and they ae entitled to their.
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The comment wasn't hateful towards gay people, he was asked his opinion and he gave it. He never said anything degrading.
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I Think Thats a disgrace.. Besides the fact its no ones business. Its a free country and everyone and anyone should be allowed everywhere without having to feel bad. A restaurant should have no say and should welcome all customers no matter there sexual preference thats like saying no black people or no jews or people with blue hair for that matter! Are we going back in time!?!? EveryOne is Equal in this country and this is a violation of rights. :peace:[/b]
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I know this forum is freedom of speech but we as people should show respect in what we post. The comment about getting a kick out of balck people not supporting gay rights because people lines up to fight for us was unnecessary. No one should be dicriminated against for any reason. In the beginning there was Adam and Eve, man and woman. There was not man and man nor woman and woman. If people want to be bisexual thats their choice and like any other choice we make in life we have to deal with them. Regardless they should be treated with respect just as anyone else. So lets not make race a factor in this.
Your original post said you tried to eat there. Only logical conclusion... you are against equal rights for homosexuals. Which leads to you DISCRIMINATING against homosexuals. Peoples religious beliefs USED to make it ok for black people to be slaves.
Homosexuals can already get married anywhere that heterosexuals can, in some states they can even do this with the same sex (although that required a redefinition of marriage). While I have no problems at all with them also getting special privileges that married people have, I do not like them redefining what marriage is to do this. I also don't like it now being an issue of sex or love/lust as a qualifier to have this special privilege. I think this special privilege should be allowed to be bind-able between any two mutually agreeing people without any requirements that they have sex with each other or love each other.
I don't mind leaving the word "marriage" to God. If it's a civil union were benefits can be passed, hospital visits granted and file a joint tax return
I think we were already in agreement on that. What is sad is that I think that would satisfy most everyone (or it should -- nobody should object to that even if it did lead to other groups then wanting similar benefits). Why isn't something like that proposed so that it is recognized nationally in the same way as marriage?
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I don't really care about any of the religious or political issues. I just love their chicken and will continue to enjoy it every chance I get whether the president of the company has a right wing political view or dances naked around a fire and chants in some rarely known language, it has no bearing on how my food tastes. Sorry gay people you open a restaurant that supports gay marriage and the food is good I'll eat there too.
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I have NOT read every single comment BUT people created the concept of union known as marriage, NOT God. I don't see why a fast-food chain should even have a stance on homosexual marriage, they sell food NOT wedding certificates afterall. Marriage/civil unions should be exactly what theyr were meant to be, a union between two PEOPLE without regard for whether it be man and woman or two people of the same gender, end of story. Why should YOU have a say in what TWO OTHER INDIVIDUALS commit to?
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I don't go to Chick-fil-A a lot simply because it's inconveniently located for me. However, I feel anyone has the right to express their opinion on anything so I support those who support and those who are against the comments made by the Chick-fil-A honcho. I also support his right to say what he wants. It's all about freedom of speech.
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Some people are flat crazy. To say Chick-Fil-A discriminate is just flat ignorant. There are respected because of their values and the clean professional way that their employees act. It is crazy to call it discrimination to not hire someone who would hurt the companies image and go against the quality way that they operate.
I had every intention of eating lunch there that day, but the line was so long and I couldn't take that long of a lunch break from work. I did stop in later to get a milkshake though.
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Some people are flat crazy. To say Chick-Fil-A discriminate is just flat ignorant.
Some people do not have much of an ability to reason and mistakenly characterize the religious discriminatory hiring/employment practices of chick-fil-a as 'nondiscriminatory' by calling rational dissent "crazy". Such people reveal their own ignorance instead.
There are respected because of their values and the clean professional way that their employees act. It is crazy to call it discrimination to not hire someone who would hurt the companies image and go against the quality way that they operate.
That semi-convoluted mess of non-reasoning is apologetic nonsense. I don't 'respect' a company who only wants to hire xtians, (discriminatory hiring/employment practices), but will hypocritical serve pagans, satanists, atheists or sun-worshippers as long as they can pay. The fact that they've been sued at least twelve times already for such discriminatory practices has nothing to do with their selling gay, unmarried chickens.
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Like i said before and will continue to say, the chick-fil-a issue has nothing to co with saying black people should support gay rights. No one can make tht determination. Fighting for freedom and rights verses going against the bilbe, NO CONTEST. No matter what else is said this is my last comment on this because some people are disrespectful and appears a little racist. Thats my opinion and i'm done!
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Like i said before and will continue to say, the chick-fil-a issue has nothing to co with saying black people should support gay rights. No one can make tht determination. Fighting for freedom and rights verses going against the bilbe, NO CONTEST. No matter what else is said this is my last comment on this because some people are disrespectful and appears a little racist. Thats my opinion and i'm done!
Racist???? HOW? I am saying that you, a black person, should be sympathetic to a group of people being discriminated against. It isn't just you. In polls African Americans vote OVERWHELMINGLY against gay rights. I think there is something about learning from history to prevent repeating it???
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agree that free speech is great.
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Like i said before and will continue to say, the chick-fil-a issue has nothing to co with saying black people should support gay rights. No one can make tht determination. Fighting for freedom and rights verses going against the bilbe, NO CONTEST. No matter what else is said this is my last comment on this because some people are disrespectful and appears a little racist. Thats my opinion and i'm done!
Racist???? HOW? I am saying that you, a black person, should be sympathetic to a group of people being discriminated against. It isn't just you. In polls African Americans vote OVERWHELMINGLY against gay rights. I think there is something about learning from history to prevent repeating it???
How can you equate 'not getting a special privilege' as being discriminated against? Even though I don't have a problem with this special privilege being bestowed to additional groups beyond the ones that currently have it, it not being granted is not discrimination. I cannot (legally) park in handicap parking spaces, so does that mean I am being discriminated against?
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Falcon9 have you ever taken into consideration that the people doing the suing may be in the wrong. Just because people dont agree with you, doesnt mean they are wrong either. :bs:
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Falcon9 have you ever taken into consideration that the people doing the suing may be in the wrong. Just because people dont agree with you, doesnt mean they are wrong either. :bs:
That's a false dichotomy; just because people disagree with me, it doesn't mean they're right. As to the employment discrimination litigation; that's either decided by the courts or, settled out of court, (as chick-fil-a has done to avoid judgements against them). How is suing a company which has discriminatory hiring and employment 'policies' "in the wrong"?
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Like i said before and will continue to say, the chick-fil-a issue has nothing to co with saying black people should support gay rights. No one can make tht determination. Fighting for freedom and rights verses going against the bilbe, NO CONTEST. No matter what else is said this is my last comment on this because some people are disrespectful and appears a little racist. Thats my opinion and i'm done!
Racist???? HOW? I am saying that you, a black person, should be sympathetic to a group of people being discriminated against. It isn't just you. In polls African Americans vote OVERWHELMINGLY against gay rights. I think there is something about learning from history to prevent repeating it???
How can you equate 'not getting a special privilege' as being discriminated against? Even though I don't have a problem with this special privilege being bestowed to additional groups beyond the ones that currently have it, it not being granted is not discrimination. I cannot (legally) park in handicap parking spaces, so does that mean I am being discriminated against?
I will concede that what is happening to the Gay community these days in NOWHERE near the terrible, terrible plight that black people suffered for hundreds of year. Decent strawman with the handicapped spot.
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I don't think that support/non-support has any business making it into the limelight. I am not a big chik fil a follower and if they chose to make a statement with regard to their position on any thing other than sub-par fast food they were using their position to influence others which I find offensive. Just as I don't want politicians/religious people knocking on my door/ringing my telephone...I don't want to hear someone using their position to influence me. I rarely go to Chik Fil A but will make it a point not to go to their franchise again. I wish that all of the fast food restaurants would take a stance on something so that I could lose ome weight! LOL
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Chic-Fil-A is entitled to their opinion just like everyone else! As they say "opinions are like noses; everybody has one/ and they all smell" :bootyshake:
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We dont have one in our town or I would have gone out and supported them. Wished we had one here, but we have to drive 85 miles to find one.
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Chic-Fil-A is entitled to their opinion just like everyone else!
They are however, not "entitled" to practice hiring/employment discrimination based upon some specious religious "opinions" if those violate secular laws.
As they say "opinions are like noses; everybody has one/ and they all smell"
No, this implies that all "opinions" are created equally, which is manifestly untrue. Some opinions are emotionally-based, some are based upon a random superstitious religious belief and others have an actual basis in fact/reasoning.
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We dont have one in our town or I would have gone out and supported them. Wished we had one here, but we have to drive 85 miles to find one.
One of those sanctimonious chickenshacks is close enough to notice that their parkinglot is quiet as a graveyard, day and night.
Not much 'support' for their self-righteous prejudices there although some people had apparently dumped trash from other nearby fastfood restaurants in a show of non-support. Huzzah.
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I support them 100 percent, what is so wrong with standing out for something right.
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I support them 100 percent, what is so wrong with standing out for something right.
It isn't surprising in the least that you support such hiring/employment discrimination based upon religious beliefs.
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My family, friends and I went and supported Chick-fil-a. We drove 45 miles to the nearest one. It was worth it to see a peaceful but very crowded parking lot. My best friends son who is handicapped was very happy that he got to wave at the local news camera men and they were filming him!
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Like i said before and will continue to say, the chick-fil-a issue has nothing to co with saying black people should support gay rights. No one can make tht determination. Fighting for freedom and rights verses going against the bilbe, NO CONTEST. No matter what else is said this is my last comment on this because some people are disrespectful and appears a little racist. Thats my opinion and i'm done!
Racist???? HOW? I am saying that you, a black person, should be sympathetic to a group of people being discriminated against. It isn't just you. In polls African Americans vote OVERWHELMINGLY against gay rights. I think there is something about learning from history to prevent repeating it???
How can you equate 'not getting a special privilege' as being discriminated against? Even though I don't have a problem with this special privilege being bestowed to additional groups beyond the ones that currently have it, it not being granted is not discrimination. I cannot (legally) park in handicap parking spaces, so does that mean I am being discriminated against?
I will concede that what is happening to the Gay community these days in NOWHERE near the terrible, terrible plight that black people suffered for hundreds of year. Decent strawman with the handicapped spot.
It isn't a strawman. Marriage privileges are exactly what they imply -- special privileges bestowed through law for a special incentive/consideration. Expanding these privileges to include additional groups that were not originally intended is simply an expansion of these special privileges. Handicap parking is a special privilege bestowed through law out of consideration and to expand it to include groups it wasn't intended for would be exactly the same.
To be discriminatory it would have to deny homosexuals the privileges granted by marriage. Is it not true that a homosexual can marry a person of the opposite sex (and same sex in some places)? If so then they are not being discriminated against. The issue is that they want to include same sex into this consideration and that was not within the reasons for the intentions of the privileges. What if someone has romantic interests in the opposite sex but would like the legal benefits of having a same sex person with the legal/financial authorities and considerations that are bestowed through such privileges -- should this be also allowed or not? If it is allowed then you have removed the concept of marriage and substituted the legalities of the privileges. Sometimes it sounds like half the time people are complaining about the legal/financial benefits of marriage and the other half they are fantasizing about their romantic view of marriage and I find that most interesting.
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Did anyone go and support them today? I did! ;D
No however, I'm considering supporting class-action litigation against the the xtian fundies under federal law.
The company discriminates against non-xtians and has been sued regarding this several times before:
http://www.forbes.com/forbes/2007/0723/080.html
YES! I am right there with ya !
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Did anyone go and support them today? I did! ;D
No however, I'm considering supporting class-action litigation against the the xtian fundies under federal law.
The company discriminates against non-xtians and has been sued regarding this several times before:
http://www.forbes.com/forbes/2007/0723/080.html
YES! I am right there with ya !
Excellent! I will research the class-action litigation currently pending and followup here with additional information. I am aware of at least one wiccan coven in Washington state which plans on arriving at a local chick-fil-a wearing various wica 'accoutrements' to make it obvious that they are non-xtians. This visit is to be video-recorded and the restaurant staff's reactions, (if any), will serve as an evidentiary record, (this process does not constitute 'entrapment' since the restaurants are open to the public and not privately-exclusionary dining clubs). Various other non-xtian concerned parties may engage in similar visits around the country, at undisclosed locations. Fun, huh?
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I know this forum is freedom of speech but we as people should show respect in what we post. The comment about getting a kick out of balck people not supporting gay rights because people lines up to fight for us was unnecessary. No one should be dicriminated against for any reason. In the beginning there was Adam and Eve, man and woman. There was not man and man nor woman and woman. If people want to be bisexual thats their choice and like any other choice we make in life we have to deal with them. Regardless they should be treated with respect just as anyone else. So lets not make race a factor in this.
Prove your :bs: religious fantasy of "adam and eve" beyond that piece of fictitious fairytales you can the bible.
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I went to support them also!!!!! Huge, long line but very much worth it!
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I went to support them also!!!!! Huge, long line but very much worth it!
I don't support such religious fascism but, will support class-action litigation against them for hiring/employment discrimination.
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Did anyone go and support them today? I did! ;D
No however, I'm considering supporting class-action litigation against the the xtian fundies under federal law.
The company discriminates against non-xtians and has been sued regarding this several times before:
http://www.forbes.com/forbes/2007/0723/080.html
YES! I am right there with ya !
Excellent! I will research the class-action litigation currently pending and followup here with additional information. I am aware of at least one wiccan coven in Washington state which plans on arriving at a local chick-fil-a wearing various wica 'accoutrements' to make it obvious that they are non-xtians. This visit is to be video-recorded and the restaurant staff's reactions, (if any), will serve as an evidentiary record, (this process does not constitute 'entrapment' since the restaurants are open to the public and not privately-exclusionary dining clubs). Various other non-xtian concerned parties may engage in similar visits around the country, at undisclosed locations. Fun, huh?
Awesome ! I look forward to it !
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While I believe in the Lord Jesus Christ and the biblical view of marriage I'm cautious about the Chic Fil A situation. The reason why is because this is such a huge company and while I'm not saying no company can have Godly values and be successful unfortunately most companies that are that size aren't truly Godly in their values. Unfortunately he who controls the gold makes the rules and the money lies with people who are usually very evil and fund huge corporations and the media. The media promotes ungodliness and usually when they do seem to promote someone or something Godly that situation or person is usually hypocritical or a media creation setup up for a wicked agenda. I think about George W. Bush claiming to be a Christian and yet denying that he is the only way on videotape. I think about Barack Obama claiming Christianity and moral values and yet he has done more to support things that go against bibical moral values than any other president in terms of his support of sodomites. Then there are movie stars and music stars who claim vaules they later deny through their occupations. Somehow with people in the media we are alwyas left waiting for the other shoe to drop. Whenever I hear someone support the Lord or the bible and they are a prominent person in the media or very wealthy (I remember what Jesus said about how it is harder for a camel to get through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the Kingdom of Heaven. This isn't to say no one which will enter heaven as some like Abraham definietly did. But with riches being earned through Satanic means and so many who are wealthy placing no premium on Godliness we can truly see that the love of money is the root of all evil.) I listen to them, but with reserve as so many things have happened that it's a wait and see thing. In order to get wealth and power you often must submit to people who are Godless and with the Chic Fil A situation, I'm not sure yet as to whether they genuinely embrace these vaules or if this story is a media creation for the purpose of another agenda.
If Cathy is truly a Godly man then I support him and his company, but with so much past disappointment if he's not then I won't support him or his company.
There is no Chic Fil A near my home and I didn't have any real interest in going to the appreciation day. However had there been a Chic Fil A near my home and I had the money and time I might have considered it.
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Intolerance, (as in Chick-fil-A's not supporting the gay movement or, discriminating against non-xtians), is the opposite of tolerance.
Now hold on here, are you saying that every business has to support the gay movement to be tolerant? That is not tolerance, that is other people (gays) telling us what to think.
By the way, in that article you linked to, the founder said, "You don't have to be a Christian to work at Chick-fil-A"
And obviously they don't require you to be a Christian to eat at Chick-fil-A, so how exactly are they discriminating against non-Christians? By acting like Christians? Well, then gays who act like gays must be discriminating against straight people. I don't think so.
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Remember, when & while it's all said and done "live and let live."
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Prove your :bs: religious fantasy of "adam and eve" beyond that piece of fictitious fairytales you can the bible.
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Well, you just have to pick your fairy tale and believe it--either we were created by the Author of the Universe or we evolved from a rock--so pick your improbable story and stick with it (I say this facetiously).
Without even going into the details of how all human genetic information leads back to a "mitochondrial eve", a single mother of the entire human race, let me just say that the Holy Bible is as valid a historical document as the Dead Sea Scrolls (oh, wait, those contain parts of the Bible) or the works of Josephus, a non-Christian historian circa 100 AD, which verified many of the events and people in the Bible.
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My family, friends and I went and supported Chick-fil-a. We drove 45 miles to the nearest one. It was worth it to see a peaceful but very crowded parking lot. My best friends son who is handicapped was very happy that he got to wave at the local news camera men and they were filming him!
I'm very happy that your best friend's son is handicapped.
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yes to chick fil a!
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Intolerance, (as in Chick-fil-A's not supporting the gay movement or, discriminating against non-xtians), is the opposite of tolerance.
Now hold on here, are you saying that every business has to support the gay movement to be tolerant? That is not tolerance, that is other people (gays) telling us what to think.
No particular business has to support the gay movement any more than any particular person has to support the xtian religion to be tolerant. Requiring non-xtians to tolerate xtianity is xtians telling other people what to think.
The intolerant part enters into the picture when a business bases its hiring/employment practices upon a vague religious superstition to the point of exclusions. Remember, twelve lawsuits related to various types of employment discrimination have been filed against chick-fil-a so far, (some of these have been settled out of court, others are pending).
By the way, in that article you linked to, the founder said, "You don't have to be a Christian to work at Chick-fil-A"
Right, he pretty much has to claim that with those discrimination lawsuits still pending. His company's discriminatory hiring/employment practices would likely make it extremely difficult for a wiccan or a satanist to work there, however.
And obviously they don't require you to be a Christian to eat at Chick-fil-A, so how exactly are they discriminating against non-Christians? By acting like Christians? Well, then gays who act like gays must be discriminating against straight people. I don't think so.
You present a false dichotomy; it is like saying that cannibals are being discriminating against for being cannibals when people won't let them eat people.
"Chritianity is the most perverted system that ever shone on man."
-- Thomas Jefferson
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no dont understand enough to form a good opinion
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1> way to go Narv and welcome to fushioncash. :wave: 2. what a horrible thing to say sigmapi. :angry7:
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If you don't like the way a business operates, then dont be a patron there. Most fast food places have been sued for some form of discrimination. If we all take a stand on on what we find offensive, maybe all the fast food joints will disappear and we can enjoy more home cooked meals!
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If you don't like the way a business operates, then dont be a patron there. Most fast food places have been sued for some form of discrimination. If we all take a stand on on what we find offensive, maybe all the fast food joints will disappear and we can enjoy more home cooked meals!
I agree with the tacit suggestion to boycott chick-fil-a permemently.
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I would be more likely to boycot mcdonalds for gender discrimination and less likely to boycot chik fil a, but to each his own.
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I would be more likely to boycot mcdonalds for gender discrimination and less likely to boycot chik fil a, but to each his own.
Discrimination on the basis of religion, gender, creed isn't ethical. Do you have current information regarding McDonalds and gender discrimination or, reference sources?
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I would be more likely to boycot mcdonalds for gender discrimination and less likely to boycot chik fil a, but to each his own.
Discrimination on the basis of religion, gender, creed isn't ethical. Do you have current information regarding McDonalds and gender discrimination or, reference sources?
There have been quite a few law suits and accusations against McDonalds for gender discrimination (as well as other forms). We are not allowed to post links on here, but it isn't hard to find the information online if you are curious.
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I would be more likely to boycot mcdonalds for gender discrimination and less likely to boycot chik fil a, but to each his own.
Discrimination on the basis of religion, gender, creed isn't ethical. Do you have current information regarding McDonalds and gender discrimination or, reference sources?
There have been quite a few law suits and accusations against McDonalds for gender discrimination (as well as other forms). We are not allowed to post links on here, but it isn't hard to find the information online if you are curious.
Well, we can post information reference links which are not of personal financial benefit here. I did find one related to gender discrimination by a McDonalds in Saudi Arabia and one against chick-fil-a filed by a woman:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/27/brenda-honeycutt-chick-fil-a-sues-gender-discrimination_n_1709645.html?utm_hp_ref=mostpopular
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I would be more likely to boycot mcdonalds for gender discrimination and less likely to boycot chik fil a, but to each his own.
Discrimination on the basis of religion, gender, creed isn't ethical. Do you have current information regarding McDonalds and gender discrimination or, reference sources?
There have been quite a few law suits and accusations against McDonalds for gender discrimination (as well as other forms). We are not allowed to post links on here, but it isn't hard to find the information online if you are curious.
Well, we can post information reference links which are not of personal financial benefit here. I did find one related to gender discrimination by a McDonalds in Saudi Arabia and one against chick-fil-a filed by a woman:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/27/brenda-honeycutt-chick-fil-a-sues-gender-discrimination_n_1709645.html?utm_hp_ref=mostpopular
Although it didn't get the medi attention that chick fil a got, you might find the case brought by the transgendered teen interesting.
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I would be more likely to boycot mcdonalds for gender discrimination and less likely to boycot chik fil a, but to each his own.
Discrimination on the basis of religion, gender, creed isn't ethical. Do you have current information regarding McDonalds and gender discrimination or, reference sources?
There have been quite a few law suits and accusations against McDonalds for gender discrimination (as well as other forms). We are not allowed to post links on here, but it isn't hard to find the information online if you are curious.
Well, we can post information reference links which are not of personal financial benefit here. I did find one related to gender discrimination by a McDonalds in Saudi Arabia and one against chick-fil-a filed by a woman:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/27/brenda-honeycutt-chick-fil-a-sues-gender-discrimination_n_1709645.html?utm_hp_ref=mostpopular
Although it didn't get the medi attention that chick fil a got, you might find the case brought by the transgendered teen interesting.
I'll tell you what; look at the above link concerning a gender discrimination suit against chick-fil-a and I'll see if I can find the case you're referring to. Acceptable?
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These discrimination claims always turn out to be disgruntled employees that want to be paid for not working of which there is a whole lot of them in this day and age. How about giving a days labor for a days wage and quite the whining.
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These discrimination claims always turn out to be disgruntled employees that want to be paid for not working of which there is a whole lot of them in this day and age. How about giving a days labor for a days wage and quite the whining.
While this is probably true in even a majority of the discrimination suits filed, keep in mind that such discrimination can be hard to prove via hard evidence, (conflicting depositions can negate such being evidence in either direction). In many such instances, the employer can fabricate an alternate explanation for terminating employment or, the employee may be fabricating the basis for termination as being discriminatory. I will agree that, even in these times of high unemployment, some people are still so lazy that they seem to want to be paid for barely working.
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I would be more likely to boycot mcdonalds for gender discrimination and less likely to boycot chik fil a, but to each his own.
Discrimination on the basis of religion, gender, creed isn't ethical. Do you have current information regarding McDonalds and gender discrimination or, reference sources?
There have been quite a few law suits and accusations against McDonalds for gender discrimination (as well as other forms). We are not allowed to post links on here, but it isn't hard to find the information online if you are curious.
Well, we can post information reference links which are not of personal financial benefit here. I did find one related to gender discrimination by a McDonalds in Saudi Arabia and one against chick-fil-a filed by a woman:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/27/brenda-honeycutt-chick-fil-a-sues-gender-discrimination_n_1709645.html?utm_hp_ref=mostpopular
Although it didn't get the medi attention that chick fil a got, you might find the case brought by the transgendered teen interesting.
I'll tell you what; look at the above link concerning a gender discrimination suit against chick-fil-a and I'll see if I can find the case you're referring to. Acceptable?
Oh, I believe discrimination happens pretty much everywhere, and for any reason, it is just a matter of companies getting caught and whether or not people are informed and care or not. Hardees has had suits brought for gender discrimination and for discriminating against the disabled (I think I am recalling this accurately).If the media showed every instance of this, people would probably be shocked and have nowhere to eat or shop!
In the case of chick fil a, I have to say, the media has not emphasized discrimination law suits, so most non gay consumers see it as an issue of freedom of speech, while gay consumers see it as offensive/ intolerant, etc. It makes you wonder what would have happened if the gay community had known discrimation suits existed before the head of Chick fil a publically announced his beliefs. It is getting all this attention now, but what about before the owner spoke about his beliefs? and what about other companies that get no media attention because they settle quietly, etc. I think the lesson is, if discrimination of any sort matters to you then you shouldnt wait for the media to sensationalize it, rather you should research on your own and decide if you want to be a shopper at a given establishment, chances are most places would have a disappointing track record.
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Oh, I believe discrimination happens pretty much everywhere, and for any reason, it is just a matter of companies getting caught and whether or not people are informed and care or not. Hardees has had suits brought for gender discrimination and for discriminating against the disabled (I think I am recalling this accurately).If the media showed every instance of this, people would probably be shocked and have nowhere to eat or shop!
I agree that publicity can lead to more awareness of any given situation. Most people are not generally inclined to search for instances of wrong-doing on a nominally random basis, (look at every company currently operating - worldwide?). The emphasis of publicity normally occurs when some event engenders it, (such as in chick-fil-a's case{s}).
In the case of chick fil a, I have to say, the media has not emphasized discrimination law suits, so most non gay consumers see it as an issue of freedom of speech, while gay consumers see it as offensive/ intolerant, etc. It makes you wonder what would have happened if the gay community had known discrimation suits existed before the head of Chick fil a publically announced his beliefs. It is getting all this attention now, but what about before the owner spoke about his beliefs? and what about other companies that get no media attention because they settle quietly, etc. I think the lesson is, if discrimination of any sort matters to you then you shouldnt wait for the media to sensationalize it, rather you should research on your own and decide if you want to be a shopper at a given establishment, chances are most places would have a disappointing track record.
Given sufficient 'digging' into nearly any company, something is likely to turn up. Whether or not news outlets find such results newsworthy is largely a subjective assessment which rests at least equally upon journalism and readership appeal/sales potential for advertisers.
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Oh, I believe discrimination happens pretty much everywhere, and for any reason, it is just a matter of companies getting caught and whether or not people are informed and care or not. Hardees has had suits brought for gender discrimination and for discriminating against the disabled (I think I am recalling this accurately).If the media showed every instance of this, people would probably be shocked and have nowhere to eat or shop!
I agree that publicity can lead to more awareness of any given situation. Most people are not generally inclined to search for instances of wrong-doing on a nominally random basis, (look at every company currently operating - worldwide?). The emphasis of publicity normally occurs when some event engenders it, (such as in chick-fil-a's case{s}).
In the case of chick fil a, I have to say, the media has not emphasized discrimination law suits, so most non gay consumers see it as an issue of freedom of speech, while gay consumers see it as offensive/ intolerant, etc. It makes you wonder what would have happened if the gay community had known discrimation suits existed before the head of Chick fil a publically announced his beliefs. It is getting all this attention now, but what about before the owner spoke about his beliefs? and what about other companies that get no media attention because they settle quietly, etc. I think the lesson is, if discrimination of any sort matters to you then you shouldnt wait for the media to sensationalize it, rather you should research on your own and decide if you want to be a shopper at a given establishment, chances are most places would have a disappointing track record.
Given sufficient 'digging' into nearly any company, something is likely to turn up. Whether or not news outlets find such results newsworthy is largely a subjective assessment which rests at least equally upon journalism and readership appeal/sales potential for advertisers.
"Whether or not news outlets find such results newsworthy is largely a subjective assessment which rests at least equally upon journalism and readership appeal/sales potential for advertisers."
This is exactly true. The media is not objective. So people dont get the whole story, etc. (Dont trust the media folks! Do your own fact finding!)
Chick fil a, in my opinion, is being hammered for something that most businesses also do = discrimination. The issue is much larger than chick fil a. All the fast food places, and places like Target and Walmart have all had suits against them. But people arent proactive in their search for information about businesses bc they think there are laws in place that take care of these things for them.
How many people are honestly going to stop going somewhere if they like going there, regardless of lawsuits, unless it is affects them personally? If you dont care about the gay discrimination lawsuits then you wont care about the chick fil a stuff, if you dont care about racial discrimination then you wont stop shopping at target for example, if you dont care about gender discrimination then you wont stop shopping most everywhere, if you dont care about the disabled and ADA violations, then you wont stop going to target, hardees, for example.
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The issue is that Chick-fil-a donated over $2 Million dollars to groups supporting anti-gay legislation in 2009. The crux is that these groups are funding anti-gay initiatives and spending their charitable dollars attacking legislation that seeks to provide equal rights to gay and lesbian couples. It's fine to hold a particular belief and it's something else entirely different to actively work toward maintaining discriminatory laws under the guise of charity.
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The issue is that Chick-fil-a donated over $2 Million dollars to groups supporting anti-gay legislation in 2009. The crux is that these groups are funding anti-gay initiatives and spending their charitable dollars attacking legislation that seeks to provide equal rights to gay and lesbian couples. It's fine to hold a particular belief and it's something else entirely different to actively work toward maintaining discriminatory laws under the guise of charity.
Are these "anti-gay" or "pro-traditional marriage"? Be aware that it is not equal rights being sought after, it is special privileges as gays and lesbians can become married now, according to the definition of marriage and thus they are not being discriminated against. This distinction is of particular significance as it quickly exposes the claims of discrimination to be completely false. In some places where they sought from the voting population these special privileges they were given them by the voters, and in others they were denied.