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Discussion Boards => Off-Topic => Topic started by: lynnc35 on August 17, 2012, 01:37:06 pm
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I am beginning to see a trend. I also think satan entered that dude, like satan entered judas at the last supper.
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I am beginning to see a trend.
So am I ... it's not the same one though.
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I am beginning to see a trend. I also think satan entered that dude, like satan entered judas at the last supper.
Naw,that's nonsence.Back in the 50's they basically ran comics into the ground because some yahoo argued that comics caused delinquency.
Satan may have entered that creep,but you can't lay blame to the Batman films because that guy had an evil mind.He would've done something bad either way.
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Satan may have entered that creep,but you can't lay blame to the Batman films because that guy had an evil mind.He would've done something bad either way.
That is substituting one fictional character for another without invalidating the conclusion.
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no people do evil is been around way before movies.
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No
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quite frankly there are movies that are wayyyy more evil and disturbing...if the batman movie brought about evil so would the other movies
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No, I do not think an invisible force or entity is present around Batman, or the Batman movies or even anything remotely like that.
I think that shooter was just mentally ill and had his own reasons - that's why he decided to shoot those people. I don't think the devil possessed him or that it was Batman's fault. Think about what you're saying... it sounds ridiculous. Sometimes people are just cruel and there's nothing you can do to prevent it and nothing you can do to fix it.
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No I do not think a movie is about evil, it is just something someone made up and and wrote a movie. If Batman is about evil all the scary movies are about evil things.
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Movies can't make someone evil. Evil just exists in our world, unfortunately. And I think it's getting worse all the time. Back in the 60's and 70's when I was growing up, you hardly ever heard about the kinds of things that are going on now days. :peace:
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Its not the movies, music, or anything else...its the people that bring on evil!
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Yeah it is the people that bring on the evil
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If insane people dwell on violence, there is a possibility that they will create, a violent situation.
I believe it's a combination of the two. That guy wasn't okay, upstairs. Then if he allowed the negativity to dominate his mind, he ended up doing what he thought about, doing.
It's the same thing with predator pedophiles. They think about hurting children, and so, there's an increased possibility that they eventually end up violating a child.
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No. That man was mentally disturbed, probably from a very young age before he even started violent watching films (and compared to many other films, Batman is not bad at all. It's not gruesome and there's a clear message of defending others and doing what's right.)
If anything, the media is to blame for glorifying these killers and thus letting the next generation know that if they try something similar, they too will get all sorts of attention from the national news media.
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I am beginning to see a trend. I also think satan entered that dude, like satan entered judas at the last supper.
A trend?? One shooting doesn't make something a trend.
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No, I don't believe so. The Batman movie did not set this guy off - he would have shot up another theater if not that one.
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no but i dont anything can bring about evil .people evil things and blame on movies,religion,etc
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Everyone with a sound mind knows it is all make believe, but a disturbed person see things in a totally different way. My generation was brought up on scary and outlandish movies. Their are some i just wouldn't watch and wouldn't let my kids watch mainly because i and they would have nightmares but didn't go out and kill someone. Some of the video games are so much worse.
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Batman has definitey evolved over the years into a more sinister, violent character but is still a good guy fighting crime. Some of the other characters in the batman movies do represent pure evil. Those are the characters that probably should be toned down a bit. Although many young children love the Batman characters, the movies are definitely made for adults. However, if a person is mentally imbalanced any character from any movie can trigger their violent actions.
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NO batman is my hero.
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Apparently, "batman" brings out some inherent "evil" in at least one viewer; unless "evil" is being falsely attributed to "batman" movies like "good" is falsely attributed to some xtian g-d.
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No. That guy was a whack job. If he didn't base his attack off of the Batman movie he would have just used another movie. The same thing has been said about music, and how people listen to songs and then go kill someone because of a song. It's ridiculous. Crazy people will look for any excuse to cover up their actions. We live in a sick world. We all have free will and the ability to choose our actions. It's sad that some choose the evil and psychotic path.
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If they do, then wouldn't there be chaos everywhere - since it is playing ALL over the place?
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If they do, then wouldn't there be chaos everywhere - since it is playing ALL over the place?
That's one of the main problems with invalid attributions; the conclusion doesn't follow from a false premise.
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The guy is not right. He was going to carry out his plan whether it was Batman or something else.
I don't think there is a trend. The reason you didn't hear about these things in the 50's, 60's and 70's was there were NOT news outlets 24 hours a day, 7 days a week trying to report stories that no one had. 3 channels, 30 minutes a day. Trying to get an angle no one else has, trying to out gross the other channels. I think a lot of the "news" that the channels report, is lots of speculation, this is what we think happened, and this is the neighbor from 10 years ago and what he thinks. This happens time and time again before all the facts are in. By the time the facts are in people already think they know what really happened.
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I am beginning to see a trend. I also think satan entered that dude, like satan entered judas at the last supper.
Well fortunately 'The devil made me do it' isn't a legal defense.
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I am beginning to see a trend. I also think satan entered that dude, like satan entered judas at the last supper.
Well fortunately 'The devil made me do it' isn't a legal defense.
Neither is 'the xtian supernatural egregore made me do it' however, either may be workable in an insanity plea.
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I think that guy was just crazy to begin with, it would have happened at whatever movie. The batman movie has been forever tainted and thats too bad
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just coincidence that batman happened to be playing that night. He woulda done it if mary poppins was playin
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I think the guy had problems.
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I read the title of this thread and thought it was a joke. This is an absolutely preposterous claim.
That man was obviously sick and had a serious problem to cause his actions.
"Satan" had nothing to do with it.
If "Satan" did exist, he would be too busy with other things to worry about something menial like causing a man to shoot in a theater.
Since you want to make it about religion, the fault really goes on "God" since he "created" that man to be sick and dangerous.
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I read the title of this thread and thought it was a joke. This is an absolutely preposterous claim.
That man was obviously sick and had a serious problem to cause his actions.
"Satan" had nothing to do with it.
If "Satan" did exist, he would be too busy with other things to worry about something menial like causing a man to shoot in a theater.
Since you want to make it about religion, the fault really goes on "God" since he "created" that man to be sick and dangerous.
Regarding your last sentence, the fundies have asserted that the whackjob has "free will" in order to dodge any 'deital' responsibility. It's really a moot point anyway since the premise, ("g-d *created* anything), is presumptive and without tangible evidence.
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Regarding your last sentence, the fundies have asserted that the whackjob has "free will" in order to dodge any 'deital' responsibility. It's really a moot point anyway since the premise, ("g-d *created* anything), is presumptive and without tangible evidence.
You're telling me things I'm already aware of.
I just felt that maybe if I pointed things out from "their side of the fence" they would see that there is no way to blame anything for this man's actions besides his own mind.
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You're telling me things I'm already aware of.
I just felt that maybe if I pointed things out from "their side of the fence" they would see that there is no way to blame anything for this man's actions besides his own mind.
I understand however, the faith-blinded are unable to *see* their inherent blind-spot in that regard, (invalid attribution of cause & effect).
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No not the movie. Some people are just mean.
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I blame the person not the movie. If 1 out of 1,000,000 people who saw the movie commit crimes that is a pretty small statistic and really shouldn't be looked at as proof that these movies cause crimes to be committed.
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No. It's the person's responsibility to watch whatever they are watching (or for that matter reading or listening to) critically. If popular culture itself is enough to create evil, then we would see a whole lot more coming from a whole lot of things that are far worse than Batman.
I personally found Batman Begins with its two competing views of justice really intellectually stimulating. Overall, there seems to be much more good than evil in the Batman movies and the latest trilogy directed by Christopher Nolan is incredibly well done. I would commend them to just about anyone.
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i think anything in the media that is evil has the potential to provoke people to do bad things whether movies tv or music.