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"God gives us faith so we can be steady and stabile when we go through difficulties."
-Joyce Meyer
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My faith has carried me thorugh many tough situations in my life. It has allowed me to go through these situations with a calm and "a peace that surpasseth all understanding". With the srength that my faith has given me over the years. I have been able to learn and grow through the bad times, forgive others, not lose my trust in and love of people and of God.
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Faith is designed to get you through hard times. Regardless of your faith, the idea that there is more out there for you to eventually get to makes it easier to get through the tough times are get there. :peace:
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"God gives us faith so we can be steady and stabile when we go through difficulties."
-Joyce Meyer
I never knew what faith was until i really started reading my bible on a daily basis, but after almost dieing in 2004 of a brain hemmorhage and going into a coma for 4 days and the doctors said i would not make it, but my family faith in healing and God is what brought me back among the living and their prayers, so every since my faith has increased more and more and without my faith i have no hope in anything, I love Joyce Meyers i can relate to her life because mine has been similiar to hers, only i was molested at 10 by my older brother and raped at gun point at 16 while on a date, But now i am a true follower of Jesus Christ now and my past only make me more stronger and wiser, it does not no longer determine my decisions in life now. :female: :thumbsup:
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God gives us the faith to keep going everyday. But some people believes some others do not. For me faith is what keeps me moving forward, the faith that there is something for me out there, God has a plan for all of us and faith is strong.
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Faith is great! :angel12:
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"Faith" is belief without evidence. It is a false hope consisting of false attributions and as such, is self-delusional and blind.
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Faith is designed to get you through hard times. Regardless of your faith, the idea that there is more out there for you to eventually get to makes it easier to get through the tough times are get there. :peace:
"Faith means not wanting to know what is true"
-- Friedrich Nietzsche
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Faith is designed to get you through hard times. Regardless of your faith, the idea that there is more out there for you to eventually get to makes it easier to get through the tough times are get there. :peace:
"Faith means not wanting to know what is true"
-- Friedrich Nietzsche
“Faith is the great cop-out, the great excuse to evade the need to think and evaluate evidence. Faith is belief in spite of, even perhaps because of, the lack of evidence.”
--– Richard Dawkins
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Faith is designed to get you through hard times. Regardless of your faith, the idea that there is more out there for you to eventually get to makes it easier to get through the tough times are get there. :peace:
"Faith means not wanting to know what is true"
-- Friedrich Nietzsche
“Faith is the great cop-out, the great excuse to evade the need to think and evaluate evidence. Faith is belief in spite of, even perhaps because of, the lack of evidence.”
--– Richard Dawkins
“Faith is a cop-out. It is intellectual bankruptcy. If the only way you can accept an assertion is by faith, then you are conceding that it can't be taken on its own merits.”
---Dan Barker, Losing Faith in Faith: From Preacher to Atheist
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It would be nice to have some faith right now that eventually my computer will work, but it is not cooporating with me and I am struggling and then my husband will be home and will turn up the tv and have fifty million problems with his school work and computer and I just want to pull my hair out.
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That's not "faith"; it's having an expectation which may or, may not be reasonable - as opposed to religious faith, which is always unreasonable.
It would be nice to have some faith right now that eventually my computer will work, but it is not cooporating with me and I am struggling and then my husband will be home and will turn up the tv and have fifty million problems with his school work and computer and I just want to pull my hair out.
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Faith is the belief in things not seen. We cannot be with God if we don't have faith in Him. We cannot go on to be with god if we don't believe in Him, How can we go to a place we don't believe in.
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Faith is the belief in things not seen. We cannot be with God if we don't have faith in Him. We cannot go on to be with god if we don't believe in Him, How can we go to a place we don't believe in.
No, "faith" is belief in that for which there is no evidence. It is believing something, despite the lack of proof, (which is irrational). Faith is therefore an irrational belief and when applied to religion it becomes an irrational religious belief. The circularity of 'not being able to "be with" something for which there is no evidence unless belief without evidence is embraced' is an inherently unreasoned and irrational. Faith is a condition of blindness wherein its adherents claim to *see* which therefore makes it self-delusional.
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I understand that there are those who deny the existence of God. I understand that there are those who refuse to accept the concept of faith. We live in a world where each one of our experiences are different and because of the positions we hold during the course of our lives we come to different conclusions. No one, I repeat no one, will change what I know to be true. GOD EXISTS!!! That is the position I hold and my life experiences and my very existence is my evidence. Faith is trusting in things that have no evidence. This concept is difficult for those who refuse to see what is before their very eyes. Anyone can rant and rave and shake their fist and scream into the darkness and say there is no GOD. I wonder what people who feel that way would find if they opened themselves to the possibility that it may be true. I wonder if they have the guts to ask GOD, HIMSELF to reveal the truth to them in a way that only they would know came from HIM. Some people act like they have the guts to do it but do they really? I DARE YOU, TO ASK HIM IF HE EXISTS! I DARE YOU TO ASK HIM TO REVEAL HIMSELF TO YOU! There is nothing that has ever been created, discovered, made, given birth or life that was not a concept before it became manifest. That's what faith is, it is the acceptance that whatever the concept(dream) is will manifest for the good of ourselves and for all. Faith is the vehicle of our hopes and dreams. All you that hope and have faith, hold fast to your dreams and hold to GOD and don't let anyone take your dreams or your faith from you. BEWARE! Don't be bullied by people who are filled with rage and hatred. Don't be trampled on by people who are faithless. They are without faith so they want everyone else to feel that way too. They have to be pretty miserable to go through life like that. Pray for them to find the peace they so desperately need. God Bless you all! :angel11:
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{edit: moderator - this thread is definitely a d+d thread at this point - will you consider moving it there?}
I understand that there are those who deny the existence of God.
It's possible that you misunderstand the difference between 'denying' something for which there has been no valid evidence presented and awaiting any presentation of such evidence indefinitely.
I understand that there are those who refuse to accept the concept of faith.
That is a dubious claim since the "concept of faith" is to hold a belief despite and in spite of a lack of evidence. That is an irrational position to hold.
No one, I repeat no one, will change what I know to be true. GOD EXISTS!!!
Then you tacitly admit to blind faith in something for which no valid evidence exists, (false attributions and appeals to authority - biblical self-referential appeals - do not constitute valid evidence).
That is the position I hold and my life experiences and my very existence is my evidence.
Inaccurate and false attributions do not constitute valid evidence. Such subjective attributions to supernatural causes, (sans evidence; biased religious opinion is not evidence either), do not constitute valid evidence.
Faith is trusting in things that have no evidence.
That's known as 'blind faith' and, as an irrational position. You are, of course, free to hold an irrational position as others are to hold rational ones.
This concept is difficult for those who refuse to see what is before their very eyes.
There is no supportive evidence for the supernatural causes to "refuse to see". What such religious adherents who rant and rave with false attributions to supernatural causes refuse to see is that there is no evidence for this and "faith" is not a substitute for evidence.
Anyone can rant and rave and shake their fist and scream into the darkness and say there is no GOD.
Conversely, anyone can rave and rant and spew spittle while insisting that there is such a thing however, if they present no valid evidence, their religious opinion remains empty.
I wonder what people who feel that way would find if they opened themselves to the possibility that it may be true. I DARE YOU, TO ASK HIM IF HE EXISTS! I DARE YOU TO ASK HIM TO REVEAL HIMSELF TO YOU!
Done; no response and before you try pulling some specious crap like the asker must be 'sincere' or 'take jeebus into their heart' before buying such superstitious nonsense consider this: self-delusions do not cause some hypothetical supernatural entity to exist. Something either exists or, it does not. If it exists, it does not require belief in its existence in order to exist. If it does not exist, belief will not cause it to exist. Now, having taken your "dare", I double-dog dare you to respond to the context of these refutations to your "faith" - or is it so weak that you dare not?
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Have faith is what I've been telling myself in hopes of life changes turning positive, but I'm losing that.
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Have faith is what I've been telling myself in hopes of life changes turning positive, but I'm losing that.
That's likely due more to "positive", (or 'negative'), changes have nothing whatsoever to do with such "faith", (belief without evidence). Neither a positive nor negative change/occurance can be accurately attributed to "faith" in a supernatural cause, (however, these may be associated with a chain of mundane causes & effects). Having confidence in extant capabilities is more pragmatic if justified, (or as self-delusional as religious faith if not justified, and just as empty).
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I checked back because I knew that this ungrateful faithless being would try to refute everything I said and try to use logic as his defense. This is my simple but honest reply, you are afraid. You are so scared of everything you can't control that you jump whenever you hear a noise. You however don't frighten me one bit. It is no big deal to me if you don't believe a word I say. I don't care. I will go on having faith and I will go on believing in GOD. Your life and my life experiences are different. Unfortunately you remind me of someone I once knew who had been severely abused as a child and neglected. You are pathetic, roar all you want it's useless we can all see through you now. I will pray for you because you need it. It must be tough to go through life being you. :angel11:
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"God gives us faith so we can be steady and stabile when we go through difficulties."
-Joyce Meyer
100% true... Thanks for posting.
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I checked back because I knew that this ungrateful faithless being would try to refute everything I said and try to use logic as his defense.
The speciously-empty religious nonsense spouted by another sanctimonious blind faither was refuted by logic, not as a "defense" but in opposition to such irrationality.
This is my simple but honest reply, you are afraid. You are so scared of everything you can't control that you jump whenever you hear a noise.
Apparently you're laboring under another false premise regarding your own fears and try projecting them onto others. This fails because you're the one holding onto your blind faith out of fear.
You however don't frighten me one bit. It is no big deal to me if you don't believe a word I say. I don't care.
I'm not trying to frighten the already frightened xtians as they cling to superstitions in the darkness of their own minds. You posted a load of specious religious propaganda, I challenged its basis, (because it has none other than blind faith), and then you snapped like a dry twig with the next sanctimonious post you made.
I will go on having faith and I will go on believing in GOD. Your life and my life experiences are different.
Our life experiences have one thing in common however; neither of them present any valid evidence to support a blind faith in the alleged existence of such a supernatural egregore. The difference being, I'm rational and do not accept the non-basis of no evidence whereas you're not and do.
Unfortunately you remind me of someone I once knew who had been severely abused as a child and neglected. You are pathetic, roar all you want it's useless we can all see through you now.
Fabricating innuendo make you a lying, hypocritical xtian gossip. You did that one yourself, in your own words.
I will pray for you because you need it. It must be tough to go through life being you.
I don't need your unsolicited magical intercessory invocation rituals. However, since you're rude enough to inflict them on others, I've let certain pagan associates know that it's okay for them to engage in 'other' magical intercessory invocation rituals on your behalf, (but not ones involving your alleged xtian egregore). No need for thanks, you self-righteously blind xtian.
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I am constantly relying on my faith in God to get me through daily life! Those non-believers....I feel so sad for you!
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Relying upon empty faith, (a belief for which there is no evidence), is self-delusional. I don't pity the self-deluded religious adherents since they blinded themselves.
I am constantly relying on my faith in God to get me through daily life! Those non-believers....I feel so sad for you!
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Joyce Meyers: Amen to that! We all need faith in our lives just to survive.
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We all need faith in our lives just to survive.
No, "faith" is not something needed by "all" to survive. Especially religious blind faith.