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Share your thoughts about how many children you think that a person or couple should have with the economy the way that it is.
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At the moment, given the overpopulation of the world and the problems it's leading to, none to one.
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I think it is up to the people some people only want one and have no more some have 4 or more it all depends on the household
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At the moment, given the overpopulation of the world and the problems it's leading to, none to one.
I agree that it is irresponsible to have a large number of children. I know people who have five and plan on having more, and that is just ridiculous, adding to the world's problems. I would hate to suggest that the United States implement a child cap, but I would hope that couples would not add to the problem by having more than two children.
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I think that you can have what ever number of kids you have in your household now.But however to already have 3 kids and decide while the economy is bad to have another baby.In some places we as the tax payers haveto pay for these kids though they are not ours.Not right.Children should be planned and I understand we've had our oops but seriously please think before bringing these babies into this messed up economy to only struggle because we don't know what's ahead of us.And it's not fair to taxpayers and those babies.Our land is already overpopulated and causing us to have to build up because we are seriously running out of land and seriously overpopulated.
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I think I want 3 - 4 but I grew up in a big family.
It depends on your financial standing, mostly. Don't have 10 kids if you're planning to not work and live off the government.
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:o Wow im sorry to have to disagree but how wrong for people to say don't have anymore then two kids cause of over population... I have 2 and another on the way and still want more... But it is not like im living off the system... Yes times are tough and it sucks but we are managing and if you have more then two or want more then two you shouldn't be considered selfish. you should embrace your loved ones. If people waited for ideal times the human population would have already have died off. WW1 WW2 the great depression and many more things that would have stood in peoples way.
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Okay I do agree.It should be based on your financial situation.And for those of you who are handling your own then this does not apply.I would go into depth about but don't want to offend anybody.Besides not on here trying to offend anyone just trying to find topics that sparks up conversation.But if you were offended then I apologize.Everythings all good.
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i said 3, but 2 or 3 sounds about right
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I believe that about 2-3 is a good number, but if you can afford to take care of them you can have as many as you want. A good example of that is the octo-mom, she has 14 but obviously cannot afford to take care of those children. Unlike that family that have 18, as they're not in the news constantly, or putting up websites to collect donations from others. And even before havong your own kids, I think people should try to solve the problem of all of those poor children without homes and families.
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I think that a healthy household is at least 3 children. People can have as many as they want. A family can make it financially if they are smart about it, large or small. It is all how you spend and save.
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I think that a healthy household is at least 3 children. People can have as many as they want. A family can make it financially if they are smart about it, large or small. It is all how you spend and save.
Even if you do know how to spend or save, it's not right to not be able to give your children what they want, and allow them to live comfortably just because you want a large number of children.
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I think that a healthy household is at least 3 children. People can have as many as they want. A family can make it financially if they are smart about it, large or small. It is all how you spend and save.
Even if you do know how to spend or save, it's not right to not be able to give your children what they want, and allow them to live comfortably just because you want a large number of children.
Well I guess you have a problem with how I was raised. Not having everything that I wanted made me a better person and allowed me the knowhow now to know what I have to do to get what I want.
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my too no kid should ever get everything they want they become spoiled and don't appreciate what they have
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I think that a healthy household is at least 3 children. People can have as many as they want. A family can make it financially if they are smart about it, large or small. It is all how you spend and save.
Except it's not just you and your kids you're effecting by having many kids. It's the world as a whole.
This really shouldn't even be about how much junk you can or can't buy for your kids. This is entirely a global problem on a scale that is almost unimaginable.
:o Wow im sorry to have to disagree but how wrong for people to say don't have anymore then two kids cause of over population... I have 2 and another on the way and still want more... But it is not like im living off the system... Yes times are tough and it sucks but we are managing and if you have more then two or want more then two you shouldn't be considered selfish. you should embrace your loved ones. If people waited for ideal times the human population would have already have died off. WW1 WW2 the great depression and many more things that would have stood in peoples way.
It's simply not that black and white of an issue.
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Except it's not just you and your kids you're effecting by having many kids. It's the world as a whole.
Well the world as a whole is affected in a lot of ways having kids isn't going to affect it anymore... There isn't less oxygen or space just cause people have more then 2-3 kids... as for a global thing If you teach your kids the right way to take care of the world then adding more also isn't a harmful thing... and how do you figure it isn't such a black and white issue?
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I think you should have as many kids as you can properly provide for.
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I think that having a big family is nice.... But I sometimes stress on how much we can provide for them.
In the end loving them and taking care of them is more important then material things.
The happiest families I've seen don't really have much but they have each others love and support.
I guess it depends on how much you can handle, not everyone feels the need to have children. While others love having many.
I've got 4 and they are why I get up each morning ;D
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I grew up with a lot of siblings and my life was all about family and my siblings were my greatest support and my moral support not to mention my friends. I would have missed out on so much if my parents would have decided to only have one child and there were no siblings for that support. However parents should not have so many kids that they can not keep track of them all or find one on one time with all of them. I think 4 or 5 is a good number. Enough for support and hopefully not so many that they don't feel left out.
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I grew up with a lot of siblings and my life was all about family and my siblings were my greatest support and my moral support not to mention my friends. I would have missed out on so much if my parents would have decided to only have one child and there were no siblings for that support. However parents should not have so many kids that they can not keep track of them all or find one on one time with all of them. I think 4 or 5 is a good number. Enough for support and hopefully not so many that they don't feel left out.
That was nicely put
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There are some people who should never Children, even if they can financially afford them and it doesn;t mean they can mentally take care of them. I think some people have children to show they can procreate which isn't a good reason to bring them into this world.
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I think today if you're white as in caucasion, feel free to have as many as you want, we're quickly becoming the minority in this country. We've been so concerned with growth in the last 50 yr. and keeping the 1 and 2 children ideal that's reduced the caucasion populace. I come from a small family and had just one child in keeping with the American ideal, but now feel if you can afford a large family go for it. We've got some catching up to do. :female:
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I would say about 3. One mama's boy, a daddy's girl , and a third to break the tie
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I think today if you're white as in caucasion, feel free to have as many as you want, we're quickly becoming the minority in this country. We've been so concerned with growth in the last 50 yr. and keeping the 1 and 2 children ideal that's reduced the caucasion populace. I come from a small family and had just one child in keeping with the American ideal, but now feel if you can afford a large family go for it. We've got some catching up to do. :female:
Why? This isn't some kind of battle between the races and frankly this view borders racism...who cares if we're not a majority? Does it make a difference outside of the fact that we won't get to spread the ridiculous message, whether openly or subconsciously, that Caucasian people are superior to other races?
And we're not really "becoming a minority" that quickly, if at all. As of 2007, 66% of the US was Caucasian. The next closest was 15% Hispanics.
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Except it's not just you and your kids you're effecting by having many kids. It's the world as a whole.
Well the world as a whole is affected in a lot of ways having kids isn't going to affect it anymore... There isn't less oxygen or space just cause people have more then 2-3 kids... as for a global thing If you teach your kids the right way to take care of the world then adding more also isn't a harmful thing... and how do you figure it isn't such a black and white issue?
Because I don't think the majority of people really know, or care, what goes on outside of their city and how big of a factor overpopulation currently is on a global level. And yes, every person who is currently having kids having 2-3 more would have a HUGE impact. If we assume a quarter of the population of the US alone is attempting to have kids, and they each decide to have 2-3, that's 150 million to 225 million more people...at only a quarter of the US population (which is only 75 million...consider 6 billion+ in the world). Not to mention less and less people per capita are dying per year due to technological and medical advances.
It isn't just about how well you can afford them or about teaching them "to take care of the world," whatever that means.
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Except it's not just you and your kids you're effecting by having many kids. It's the world as a whole.
Well the world as a whole is affected in a lot of ways having kids isn't going to affect it anymore... There isn't less oxygen or space just cause people have more then 2-3 kids... as for a global thing If you teach your kids the right way to take care of the world then adding more also isn't a harmful thing... and how do you figure it isn't such a black and white issue?
Because I don't think the majority of people really know, or care, what goes on outside of their city and how big of a factor overpopulation currently is on a global level. And yes, every person who is currently having kids having 2-3 more would have a HUGE impact. If we assume a quarter of the population of the US alone is attempting to have kids, and they each decide to have 2-3, that's 150 million to 225 million more people...at only a quarter of the US population (which is only 75 million...consider 6 billion+ in the world). Not to mention less and less people per capita are dying per year due to technological and medical advances.
It isn't just about how well you can afford them or about teaching them "to take care of the world," whatever that means.
Ever heard of the butterfly effect or Chaos Theory?
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I believe a standard family has about two, if possible, I really prefer 1. But with economy like this, it may be better off to have two because then the two children can keep each other company instead of wasting all the money to buy toys~
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Two or three more then that more then that you will be going :BangHead:
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i dont think you can really say. every couple is different, has different abilities and financial status. some people have 10 kids and love it, some people have 2 and love it.
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As long as you can take care of your children without government help and instill those same values in your children then i don't think a bigger family is such a bad thing. my husband works and i stay home. we pay all our bills with no government help. i had 3 kids before we were married we had 1 together and he had 2 before we met we are raising one of his kids on top of the other four becaus his ex had another one and is un capable of caring for 3. honestly we will probably end up taking his other one too. due to the fact that she is living off the gavernment and still can't figure out how to pay her bills. 6 is a little more than i really ever planned on having (4 was ok.) but you really can't leave a child in a sitch like that if you know you can provide for it. it's all in how you manage it. i love kids.(and no we are not going to have any more.)
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As long as you can take care of your children without government help and instill those same values in your children then i don't think a bigger family is such a bad thing. my husband works and i stay home. we pay all our bills with no government help. i had 3 kids before we were married we had 1 together and he had 2 before we met we are raising one of his kids on top of the other four becaus his ex had another one and is un capable of caring for 3. honestly we will probably end up taking his other one too. due to the fact that she is living off the gavernment and still can't figure out how to pay her bills. 6 is a little more than i really ever planned on having (4 was ok.) but you really can't leave a child in a sitch like that if you know you can provide for it. it's all in how you manage it. i love kids.(and no we are not going to have any more.)
Nicely put
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Except it's not just you and your kids you're effecting by having many kids. It's the world as a whole.
Well the world as a whole is affected in a lot of ways having kids isn't going to affect it anymore... There isn't less oxygen or space just cause people have more then 2-3 kids... as for a global thing If you teach your kids the right way to take care of the world then adding more also isn't a harmful thing... and how do you figure it isn't such a black and white issue?
Because I don't think the majority of people really know, or care, what goes on outside of their city and how big of a factor overpopulation currently is on a global level. And yes, every person who is currently having kids having 2-3 more would have a HUGE impact. If we assume a quarter of the population of the US alone is attempting to have kids, and they each decide to have 2-3, that's 150 million to 225 million more people...at only a quarter of the US population (which is only 75 million...consider 6 billion+ in the world). Not to mention less and less people per capita are dying per year due to technological and medical advances.
It isn't just about how well you can afford them or about teaching them "to take care of the world," whatever that means.
Ever heard of the butterfly effect or Chaos Theory?
Yes.
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It should be up to the parents to decide if they can take care of whatever number of children they want. If they can't they honestly shouldn't but hey this isn't China, its America so if you want 6 kids, but feel you might not be able to support them, I guess go for it as there are people out there who will help.
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It should be up to the parents to decide if they can take care of whatever number of children they want. If they can't they honestly shouldn't but hey this isn't China, its America so if you want 6 kids, but feel you might not be able to support them, I guess go for it as there are people out there who will help.
Very nice
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It should be up to the parents to decide if they can take care of whatever number of children they want. If they can't they honestly shouldn't but hey this isn't China, its America so if you want 6 kids, but feel you might not be able to support them, I guess go for it as there are people out there who will help.
This is a terrible mentality. The people who will help will mostly be helping because they have no choice and you were irresponsible and selfish.
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Such as life... I personally don't want to pay taxes but have to... I didn't want to deal with president bush's ignorance again not I choice I had... A majority of people who are having more then 2 kids who are not selfish can usually take care of there kids... Sometimes people do need help and have to go that extra mile to get it... Do I think a woman who has 4 kids doesn't work and has never worked who is 100% living off the government should have more kids... NO i don't... That is still there decision to hopefully make the right one though... But I admire the people who DECIDE to have more kids and disregard the criticism and take care of there responsibility
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Any amount over 3 children is too many. Children are expensive to raise, feed and clothe. I have 3 kids and sometimes they seem like 10!
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i think u should have as many kids as u want. how can u put a price on a child? children need love and necessities so if u have 4 or more they might not get everything they want but if u have your mind set u can take care of them and give them everything they need. its not that hard people. where there is a will there is a way. i have raised 3 children on less than 10000.00 a year. no i dont have house payments or a new car, but they got everythnig they need and they all wear nice clothes and name brand shoes.
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i think u should have as many kids as u want. how can u put a price on a child? children need love and necessities so if u have 4 or more they might not get everything they want but if u have your mind set u can take care of them and give them everything they need. its not that hard people. where there is a will there is a way. i have raised 3 children on less than 10000.00 a year. no i dont have house payments or a new car, but they got everythnig they need and they all wear nice clothes and name brand shoes.
:notworthy: :thumbsup: :wave: ;D
Very nicely put great job
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I think four kids is good so you can have two boys and two girls so they would never be lonely. But unfortunately we cannot control the gender of our children.
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as long as it's more than 1, one gets special treatment, no body to play with, and can't blame stuff on there siblings. ::)
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I grew up in a family with 4 kids. we were broke all the time but we got by. I know my siblings pretty well but the youngest of us feels almost like a stranger who grew up in the same house. It is a strange relationship. I being the oldest have the largest age gap so that my be a factor, but my other siblings seem to have distanced themselves from her as well. I suppose it has something to do with her being the baby of the family and maybe that created some hostility.
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Two-three is a manageable amount of kids
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Personally, I have three children and that is more than enough for us. We're happy with the way things are.
I don't think it's right for anyone to tell anyone else how many children they're allowed to have. It's just another type of discrimination to place upon others. I don't agree with the people who raise their children with my tax money simply because they refuse to work but if you're financially, emotionally, and mentally able; have as many children as you like.
And how exactly do those who are in agreement with a child cap law propose the government enforce it? Sterlization? Abortion? Fines? That wouldn't fix the overpopulation and would eventually cause more problems. There are more important things going on right now and really, how much power do you want to give your government...
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Personally, I have three children and that is more than enough for us. We're happy with the way things are.
I don't think it's right for anyone to tell anyone else how many children they're allowed to have. It's just another type of discrimination to place upon others. I don't agree with the people who raise their children with my tax money simply because they refuse to work but if you're financially, emotionally, and mentally able; have as many children as you like.
And how exactly do those who are in agreement with a child cap law propose the government enforce it? Sterlization? Abortion? Fines? That wouldn't fix the overpopulation and would eventually cause more problems. There are more important things going on right now and really, how much power do you want to give your government...
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Personally, I have three children and that is more than enough for us. We're happy with the way things are.
I don't think it's right for anyone to tell anyone else how many children they're allowed to have. It's just another type of discrimination to place upon others. I don't agree with the people who raise their children with my tax money simply because they refuse to work but if you're financially, emotionally, and mentally able; have as many children as you like.
And how exactly do those who are in agreement with a child cap law propose the government enforce it? Sterlization? Abortion? Fines? That wouldn't fix the overpopulation and would eventually cause more problems. There are more important things going on right now and really, how much power do you want to give your government...
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I want to have 3 children, girl boy girl. But we shall have to see.
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wow!
My husband and I have three children and are planning on a fourth in the near future. Its amazing how people think there should be a set limit.
I thought in this country we prided ourselves on our "freedom of choice"
I say there is no perfect number, as long as you can take care of them then do as you wish...and even if you cant...well every child is a gift from God and should be cherished
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2 at the most. It's selfish and irresponsible to have more. We can limit our population humanely with birth control, or we can let the Four Horsemen do it, far less humanely.
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children are a gift from God I will take as many as I can get, after reading many post on here i realize that i should edit my post i say this because i have infertility problems and our first baby is a miracle we spent well over $20,000.00 on treatments to have her, we plan to try one more time and possible adopt a couple of children who needs home possible a sibling group my heart always goes out to those children because they end up getting split up alot of times.
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Children are a "gift" of healthy reproductive organs/systems and biology.
Are you asserting that a couple that is sterile is less deserving of having a child than a couple that is capable? Why are they less deserving? What kind and caring god would predetermine a couple to be sterile because they're not deserving of having children? Seems fairly rude.
wow!
My husband and I have three children and are planning on a fourth in the near future. Its amazing how people think there should be a set limit.
I thought in this country we prided ourselves on our "freedom of choice"
I say there is no perfect number, as long as you can take care of them then do as you wish...and even if you cant...well every child is a gift from God and should be cherished
It's not really amazing that people think there should be a limit. It's more amazing that people are arrogant enough to think their little boxed in world does not effect anyone else.
Not to mention you just confirmed that, in your opinion, it's perfectly fine for people to have as many kids as they want even if they can't care for them properly -.- You seriously don't think this effects anyone else? We're not even talking about in your community...this kind of logic has an effect worldwide.
With freedoms, in this case freedom of choice, comes great responsibilities.
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i deffinately think if you have the financial means and the living space have as many that is resonable/responsible for your situation. i don't think there is any cookie cutter mold that everyone fits into, for example myself and a friend of mine are both 24, we live in the same apt complex, she has 1 child 5 yrs old, she is trying to have another and she is really bad with budgeting, i have 3 kids 9,6,and 10 months and i'm very good with money, and we have about the same income (give or take a 10-30.00), i think to have kids you really need to look at how you live and if a child can fit in to that equation, my friend thinks because i have 3 kids she will be just fine with one more, but she can't pay her bills as it is now, i'm never behind on a bill and have a savings. so it just goes to show you it depends on the individual
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It has nothing to do with the economy, people should not be limited to the number of kids they. However, I do not think a couple needs more than 2 kids. A big family was reasonable back when the survival rate was low and when all members of the family worked. But, today kids are not allowed to work until they are 16 for the most part, and diseases are a little more controlled. Having huge families is just a burden for the couple. Also, the world really is getting overpopulated in livable areas.
It truly upsets me the most when someone that should not have more than a kid or two starts having multiple kids and I have to end up supporting them through my taxes.
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Times r tough, and I wish I was able 2 have more, but I am not :(. So if you can support ur children I guess go for it. But be sens :thumbsup:able about it.
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it should definately be up to the family, but just having one child is unfair for the kid. I think they need a brother or sister to be well rounded.
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I think that would be at the discretion of the person or couples involved. However, I do think that finances should play a huge part in this. I don't think that it is a very smart idea to have children that you are not able to care for, but if you have it and want to share, I say go for it and have as many as your heart desires!
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I don't believe it is up to us to say how many children people can have. It is the decision of the parents. Obviously, the parents have to have good judgment when deciding how many kids they should have so they can provide for all of their children and look after them, but that varies depending on who the parents are, so it wouldn't really be right to have a set limit.
And how exactly do those who are in agreement with a child cap law propose the government enforce it? Sterlization? Abortion? Fines? That wouldn't fix the overpopulation and would eventually cause more problems.
Someone wrote a book about that. Fictional, of course, but still scary to think about.
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It depends on how well off the family is.
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THREE WORKED REAL WELL FOR US... BOY GIRL BOY.
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I think a couple should have as many children as they can support..i personally have only 1 so far and i want 2 more but with my husband's work, as slow as it is, it wouldn't be such a great idea to have another one..we're just makin it with the 3 of us so i wouldn't have anymore till the work picks up
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two to three if you can support them on your own.
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four is nice 2 boys and 2 girls important is you can support them, i love kids in the house is so cute when they small but big yay!!!
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I think a couple should have as many children as they want as long as they are able to properly take care of them.
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i believe you can have as many as you want as long as you can afford them! never have children unless you're sure you can take care of them. you never want to pass a child over to a shelter cause that later on in life makes them feel like they were a mistake or something. id never give my baby to anyone wasn't family.