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Discussion Boards => Suggestions => Topic started by: firestorm420 on November 12, 2012, 05:19:48 pm

Title: Voluntary FC Raffle
Post by: firestorm420 on November 12, 2012, 05:19:48 pm
It would be cool if there could be some sort of raffle for FC members, maybe done through the forum.

For example, each month a member can sign up to be entered into a raffle for a small fee that is deducted from their current balance (could be 5 cents, 10 cents, 50 cents, ect doesnt matter). At the end of the month a name is drawn at random and they win the accumulated prize money.

FusionCash can even cover any expenses this might cost them (which shouldnt be much if any) by taking 5% or 10% of the prize pool for themselves.

It would be completely optional and protocols can be placed to prevent cheating or accidentally entering. I think it would be a fun addictive 'game' type activity that many people would be interested in.. sacrifice some cents and maybe win some dollars!


**Side note - I do not know if this would be considered gambling or not. I do not know if this is a realistic possiblity for FC because of that.. I would be interested to see the Administrators opinion on this.
Title: Re: Voluntary FC Raffle
Post by: mom2taz on November 12, 2012, 05:53:55 pm
might be fun...and profitable...depending on how it was set up
Title: Re: Voluntary FC Raffle
Post by: falcon9 on November 12, 2012, 05:54:44 pm
It would be cool if there could be some sort of raffle for FC members, maybe done through the forum.

For example, each month a member can sign up to be entered into a raffle for a small fee that is deducted from their current balance (could be 5 cents, 10 cents, 50 cents, ect doesnt matter). At the end of the month a name is drawn at random and they win the accumulated prize money.

FusionCash can even cover any expenses this might cost them (which shouldnt be much if any) by taking 5% or 10% of the prize pool for themselves.

It would be completely optional and protocols can be placed to prevent cheating or accidentally entering. I think it would be a fun addictive 'game' type activity that many people would be interested in.. sacrifice some cents and maybe win some dollars!


**Side note - I do not know if this would be considered gambling or not. I do not know if this is a realistic possiblity for FC because of that.. I would be interested to see the Administrators opinion on this.


Based upon the operating description of such a "raffle", it sure looks like gambling, (no matter what the name of the game is; raffle.sweepstakes).
Title: Re: Voluntary FC Raffle
Post by: AMBERTAYLOR31 on November 12, 2012, 08:41:35 pm
it does seem a bit gambling like, but it would be fun, none the less!!  i sure do like when fusioncash changes things up a little bit and adds new things or a new way of doing things.
Title: Re: Voluntary FC Raffle
Post by: madeara on November 13, 2012, 04:37:30 am
Dear firestorm,
A raffle is a marvelous idea.  No, I don't think it would be considered gambling.  Have a great day!
Title: Re: Voluntary FC Raffle
Post by: Elder_J on November 13, 2012, 09:12:31 am
Sounds like a great idea to me, ive mentioned this type of game numerous times..basically we pay to play for big money!
Title: Re: Voluntary FC Raffle
Post by: hurfrd on November 13, 2012, 10:40:30 am
this sounds like fun.  i think i saw something like this other similar sites like fusion cash.  i would tell you but i don't think i suppose to talk about other sites here. but anyway, this would attract a lot of people. it's like las vegas.
Title: Re: Voluntary FC Raffle
Post by: skrogman on November 13, 2012, 11:08:06 am
I think if you are worrying whether it would be considered gambling or not is not a real big issue.  Like everything else here, it sounds as though the way you describe it, it would be an optional offer to take or not take part in if an individual has an issue with it.  Just like the adult offers in the Crowdflower may be good money, no one has to enter them if they don't want to see those pics.
Title: Re: Voluntary FC Raffle
Post by: Administrator on November 13, 2012, 11:33:40 am
If you have any kind of game where you have a random chance of winning a cash prize, then it's pretty much considered a sweepstakes.  That requires licensing/certification in each of the 50 states, individually.  When you add up that expense, it dwarfs the revenue we could create through such a promotion.  Most people just want to get their entire cashout amount, as demonstrated by the low uptake of the 'donation' option.  So while we'd love to offer this kind of opportunity, the regulatory landscape makes it financially impossible to undertake.  [Note that many companies flaunt the law and offer national or local raffles/sweepstakes without getting the proper certification; that is their choice but it does not change the facts at hand.]
Title: Re: Voluntary FC Raffle
Post by: jonhall37 on November 13, 2012, 02:36:33 pm
well that stinks, wd of been a great idea!!!
Title: Re: Voluntary FC Raffle
Post by: katie322 on November 13, 2012, 02:52:38 pm
well that stinks, wd of been a great idea!!!

I agree!  :-[ Oh well. I'm content with the weekend/weekly contests. I enjoy them. :)
Title: Re: Voluntary FC Raffle
Post by: firestorm420 on November 14, 2012, 04:36:32 pm
If you have any kind of game where you have a random chance of winning a cash prize, then it's pretty much considered a sweepstakes.  That requires licensing/certification in each of the 50 states, individually.  When you add up that expense, it dwarfs the revenue we could create through such a promotion.  Most people just want to get their entire cashout amount, as demonstrated by the low uptake of the 'donation' option.  So while we'd love to offer this kind of opportunity, the regulatory landscape makes it financially impossible to undertake.  [Note that many companies flaunt the law and offer national or local raffles/sweepstakes without getting the proper certification; that is their choice but it does not change the facts at hand.]

Thank you for your reply Admin. I am glad to see a response to my idea.

I did not know of the licensing/certification needs (let alone in all states individualy!) and therefore did not contemplate the full cost FC would have to take. And of course other companies may 'flaunt the law' and offer this anyways, but thats not good in the longrun for anyone. I fully understand the reason why this idea is not possible (at least in this specific form, at this time).

I guess my concerns about it being considered gambling (and thoughts that gambling would have complications) should have been replaced by concerns of it being considered a sweepstakes (thus having certification issues). Never thought about the requirements to hold a 'sweepstakes' - learn something new everyday I guess.
Title: Re: Voluntary FC Raffle
Post by: mom2taz on November 14, 2012, 05:42:14 pm
Is it considered a sweepstakes if you do something like first 10 members to respond to a thread in the forum get 2 cents or the first one to answer a trivia question correctly gets 3 cents or something like that???  It would mean having to stalk the forums more to catch such events, but that may also encourage more forum participation??
Title: Re: Voluntary FC Raffle
Post by: charmaine56 on November 15, 2012, 12:03:33 pm
sounds like we could do that raffle thingy. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Voluntary FC Raffle
Post by: falcon9 on November 15, 2012, 12:21:03 pm
sounds like we could do that raffle thingy. :thumbsup:

Actually, according to FC, it does not:

If you have any kind of game where you have a random chance of winning a cash prize, then it's pretty much considered a sweepstakes.  That requires licensing/certification in each of the 50 states, individually.  When you add up that expense, it dwarfs the revenue we could create through such a promotion.  Most people just want to get their entire cashout amount, as demonstrated by the low uptake of the 'donation' option.  So while we'd love to offer this kind of opportunity, the regulatory landscape makes it financially impossible to undertake.  [Note that many companies flaunt the law and offer national or local raffles/sweepstakes without getting the proper certification; that is their choice but it does not change the facts at hand.]
Title: Re: Voluntary FC Raffle
Post by: alishalynn on November 15, 2012, 05:10:40 pm
 think fusion cash should spce things up to keep interest... this would be a great idea!!
Title: Re: Voluntary FC Raffle
Post by: jonhall37 on November 15, 2012, 05:39:03 pm
i agree, but i guess theres guidelines on whats considered gambling and not, that might be considered that....admin commented on someones suggestion similar to this one saying that...wd be fun though!
Title: Re: Voluntary FC Raffle
Post by: Kay0338 on November 18, 2012, 02:57:46 pm
I like this idea as well, but it doesn't seem like something Fusion Cash would do.
Title: Re: Voluntary FC Raffle
Post by: work778 on November 19, 2012, 02:31:15 pm
Good idea.  Hope we can give it a try.
Title: Re: Voluntary FC Raffle
Post by: southernhorizons on November 27, 2012, 09:27:01 am
Good idea.  Hope we can give it a try.
Did you read the response from the Administrator? They can't give it a try, because the expense for certification would be too much.
Title: Re: Voluntary FC Raffle
Post by: TimCookAppleCEO on November 28, 2012, 09:03:15 pm
Yeah, I like the raffle idea.