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Discussion Boards => Off-Topic => Topic started by: Nancy5 on June 02, 2015, 06:18:48 am
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Have you seen the picture of her today? What are your feelings? I hope she can find peace now and is happy, everyone deserves to be happy. It must be hell living your life in the wrong body. I did hear on tv, her mother will always call her Bruce, do you agree?
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what ever he/she wants in life is up to her/him. So I guess he will now be a she and I say Good Luck. If this makes "her" happy for the rest of the time she is living ,,, go for it. I just hope the idiots in this world will leave her alone to enjoy her new life. Bruces mother has the right to call him/her what ever she feels best,, his kids also !!
Prayers and good luck to her
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I really don't agree or believe in gender change thingie because it seems like they're playing God (the surgeons and the transgenders) BUT if they didn't photoshop his picture, he's gorgeous as a female! Much better looking than his family and a lot of actresses and other male-to-female transgenders, but he'll need to do something with his voice because it's still "maleish."
I understand he has 10 kids between biological and step, and the boys haven't made up their mind yet. It should be interesting because the only ones who have spoken up are the Kardashians, whom just need to keep their faces in the public no matter what the event...and I can't stand them.
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It makes me sick!
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Yes I agree, he is Bruce and not a she. God do not make a mistake, if you were born a man than that is whom God intended you to be. The feeling you have or make up because he was not born a woman. The day men can start having babies then and only then can they claim to be a woman, but I did say claim.....God do not make mistakes!!!!
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I think it is a sickness. I can't believe that gorgeous hunk of man from the 70's now thinks he should be a woman.
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i just dont think the world should be so wrapped up in him/her --we have much more important things to worry about here then that!! i really could care less what he does or doesnt do at this point --we all know he is now a she let it go --we live in a world now that its ok so why draw it out and make something out of it --just my opinion
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Ok I guess this isnt going to be a popular answer with some folks but I am entitled to my opinion. I don't think God makes mistakes. I believe we are born the way God intends us to be - now with that said I would never be mean or harsh with anyone or about anyone who decides to be different than they were born. Whatever he/she does is between them and God. And I only wish them the best.
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I think the world has gone absolutely bonkers!!! All this sex change bs even telling "children" not to identify with the sex they were born as. All rubbish!!!!!!!
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If it makes Caitlyn happy then I guess live and let live.
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I don't understand how you can be born male and think for a major part of your life that you feel female.Then again if he or she is happy ok.Someone brought up that he or she i'm confused anyway they have the money for all this where others don't.
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I think he is a flake!!
I was wondering if he qualifies for 2 Social Security checks now!!
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I always liked bruce jenner from when he was an athlete to the kardashians show
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I can not judge because I will be judged only the Lord can say about Bruce (now Catlyn)
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I also believe that God does not make mistakes. I think this is a choice they make, not something that should be.
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Hope she finds peace with herself, it seems to be the lead topic on the news.
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I'm bored with it
At first it was intriguing & an interesting life story. Now that I've seen her & heard the story, what more is there. Now on to the next big news story, or whatever...
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No I don't think the mother should call her Bruce since she really believes she is Caitlyn. It must be terribly stressful to be transgender and have people continue to insist on the other gender for you.
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I think he's prettier than Kris Jenner (his ex-wife) and all I can say is "Good for you BRUCE/CAITLYN!" You GO girl! lol :)
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It's hard for me to see Bruce as Catlyn now. I've gotten used to Bruce. Hey everybody to their own.
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Gag me. Why is everyone so obsessed with this nonsense?
The poor guy is so misguided and he gets praised for it. :'(
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I haven't seen a pictures and don't care too. I just don't care about this in any way. I wouldn't even know what you are talking about accept for the fact that everyone on facebook is talking about it.
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The only interest I have on the matter is just a question, I guess. I wonder why he chose the name Caitlyn instead of Kaitlyn....??? (All the rest of the family are "Special K's, why not him??) :D
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If he or she is happy Catlyn so be it but to be on a cover of fashion magazine is nuts just because he was Bruce Jenner does not make it a big deal science has really come a long way
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I don't see where it matters what I think. But if you really want to know what I think, I believe the whole thing is for publicity and for money. Why else would she being doing a big spread for Cosmo? Besides, I could not possibly care less about anything to do with the Kardashians.
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I understand and respect his/her choice to make the change. I've spent many years knowing that there was a problem with my health; however, Drs. told me I was fine after paying for their services. Finally...in April of 2015 I have an accurate diagnosis. I'm grateful to know that it wasn't all in my imagination.
My point is that we all deserve to make whatever changes are necessary so we can be "true" to ourselves where we can be happy and experience some inner peace.
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I find this whole thing very disturbing. Both that a guy would want to do this, and that our society seems so obsessed by it. :sad1:
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I guess what ever he wants I think it is really dumb after all these years but what ever.
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Have you seen the picture of her today? What are your feelings? I hope she can find peace now and is happy, everyone deserves to be happy. It must be hell living your life in the wrong body. I did hear on tv, her mother will always call her Bruce, do you agree?
Her? It's a MAN. HE is physco. You don't live your life in the wrong body. God doesn't make mistakes. You are born male or female and that is what you are. Yes, I saw the picture and IT is the ugliest thing I have ever seen.
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It's really ridiculous for this man to go thru all these changes since he is near 70 years old. I saw the picture of him and they have photo shopped him to the nth power. I do hope people will see him for what and who he is. Media and social media just puts more money in his pocket. He comes off as being terribly pathetic. Vanity Fair must be having a slow year for them to put him on their cover.
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It's really ridiculous for this man to go thru all these changes since he is near 70 years old. I saw the picture of him and they have photo shopped him to the nth power. I do hope people will see him for what and who he is. Media and social media just puts more money in his pocket. He comes off as being terribly pathetic. Vanity Fair must be having a slow year for them to put him on their cover.
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I just don't understand this at all.
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The man is pathetic. He needs a psychiatrist.
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He's mentally ill, and should be treated as such. He can never be a woman, no matter how much surgery he has, and will always be a (now unsexed) male. He's insulting women, all for money and notoriety. It's all part of a bigger plan to destroy our culture by encouraging deviant, unnatural behaviors, pretending that they are normal.
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I was very surprised on how she looked, I hope it is what she wanted and is happy with the changes in her life.
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I think u are wight.
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I haven't walked a mile in his shoes, so I don't know. What about: "Judge not yet ye be judged..." I feel it should be live and let live. I particularly believe this when you are not hurting others. Maybe at some point you just have to make yourself happy. Obviously, just because it is wrong for you and you couldn't imagine doing it, it is very right for him (her). I think life is just about being good, kind, and doing unto others...
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Because of Adam’s disobedience, we have all inherited imperfection. We must therefore battle fleshly weaknesses and strong desires that are out of harmony with God’s original purpose. Thus, in the laws given through Moses, God specified sexual practices that were abhorrent to him—namely, adultery, incest, homosexuality, and bestiality. (Leviticus 18:6-23) God also specifically forbade portraying oneself as a member of the opposite sex for immoral purposes. (Deuteronomy 22:5) The Bible consistently teaches that the only sexual relations approved by God are with a member of the opposite sex within the marriage arrangement. (Genesis 20:1-5, 14; 39:7-9; Proverbs 5:15-19; Hebrews 13:4) Are such standards reasonable?
Who Chooses?
The Bible likens man’s position before his Creator to clay in the hands of a potter. It says: “O man, who, then, really are you to be answering back to God? Shall the thing molded say to him that molded it, ‘Why did you make me this way?’” (Romans 9:20) It is obvious from the way God made men and women that it is natural for them to be sexually attracted to one another. Sexual attraction to a member of the same sex, to an animal, or to a child is therefore unnatural.—Romans 1:26, 27, 32.
For this reason, people who pursue such unnatural sexual inclinations find themselves contending with God. The Bible contains this warning: “Woe to the one that has contended with his Former, as an earthenware fragment with the other earthenware fragments of the ground! Should the clay say to its former: ‘What do you make?’” (Isaiah 45:9) Surely it is reasonable for the Maker of humans to give direction on sexual matters. Is it not also reasonable that humans should follow such direction?
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Each one of us is tried and drawn out by our own desire.When the desire becomes fertile you act upon it and it becomes a sin.
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It does not matter what I think but what God thinks. But I do know that I am sick and tired of him, she/it being on face book and the news so much. I know there are more pressing things going on in this world then him. While the news media are slobbering all over him we do not know what pres. Obama is pulling.
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It does not matter what I think but what God thinks. But I do know that I am sick and tired of him, she/it being on face book and the news so much. I know there are more pressing things going on in this world then him. While the news media are slobbering all over him we do not know what pres. Obama is pulling.
I agree. There are more important things...the economy, cancer research, ISIS, education, crime...many, many more.
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Caitlyn Is beautiful. She's finally free to be her authentic self. I feel everyone should respect her and use only her chosen name and gender pronouns. It's emotionally abusive to do otherwise. Besides respecting other people's life choices doesn't take away your freedom to live as you choose.
Remember the golden rule. If you want your lifestyle respected you must respect others life choices.
No God does not make mistakes. We are given the challenges we need for our growth and the growth of others. Christ accepted everyone, so should we.
I think of it this way. If a child was born with a correctible physical deformity (such as cleft pallet, missing ear, fused fingers, etc) we would correct it. It'd be cruel to make a person live their life with such a correctible deformity. So if a female spirit is born in a body that develops male characteristics, or visa versa, that too should be corrected.
I know what it feels like to be raised to live a life that's right for another, but not me. I've spent over half my life sorting out what's authentically me verses what I was raised to do with my life. (No, it doesn't involve expensive reassignment surgery and mega doses of hormones.)
I also had a neighbor who was transgender. She has been suicidal most of her life as a result. She still is. Her father won't accept her. Every day is a struggle for her mentally and emotionally. I wouldn't curse my worst enemy with this kind of torture.
The transgender suicide rate is 45%. Almost half of these tortured souls, of all ages, are killing themselves for lack of Christlike acceptance from their families and other people.
Like Ellen says "Be kind to one another". :peace: :heart: :angel11:
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Good for her be whatever ya want.
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I hear a lot of people saying, "God doesn't make mistakes" and I agree. So, since God hasn't made any mistakes and He has allowed people like Bruce, now Caitlyn, on His Earth, then who are we to judge?
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What does God have to do with "freedom of choice"?Jenner chose to have this change.NOT God!!
Its plain and simple How God feels about this unless YOUR God doesnt represent the bible.
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Does it really matter in todays world that Jesus said,"the whole lies in power of satan who is also referred to as the god of this system?
If satans political rule and religeous system is marrying gays and doesnt care how bible feels about it,the Jenner story is NO BIGGIEEE!!!!
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If you have commandments that say you shall not kill,steal or committ adultry and dont support thieves,killers or adultresses you are judging their lifestyle in support of how God feels.If you dont support Jenner you agree with Jehovah <The TRUE God of Bible>I think that is acceptable to HIM.
What is your Gods name to those that support this flake?
Fine,you dont wanna agree with God thats your freedom of choice.But please dont look like a fool and quote judging from a scripture that has NOTHING to do with how the Lord feels about things and makes it known!!
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I think she looks beautiful and happy. I'm glad she's able to finally be herself.
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i think he looks good as a giirl........
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Bruce Jenner is really a screwed up person. He waits until he is almost 70 years old to come out as a woman. The pictures on Vanity Fair are photo shopped to the nth power. Have you seen him before the Caitlyn pictures. Every wrinkle has been wiped away, all over his body. Be who you want to be, but please be honest about the real you.
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I don't think it is news worthy. Definitely not to be called a hero
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It happened let it go. Move on to important stuff.
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I think the whole thing is a publicity gimmick! And, the sooner people stop paying attention to all that trash the sooner they'll give up on it. TV isn't fit to watch because of people like that!
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I don't care what he/she does, I just wish they would quit putting it all over tv and magazines like it's completely okay. I don't believe in this type of behavior.
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I believe you are born with what god gave ya. But I am not here to place judgement - only god does that.
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God is real and he knows all things, all we have to do is just ask him any question, about anything that we do not understand. Now all that i am saying is not my opinion, but it is revealed to me by Father Gods Spirit. Being born with a Vagina or a *bleep* does not make us male or female. There are people who are born with Both Vagina and *bleep* and some people are born with none of these. This is all naturally seen with the natural eye, but when Father God opens ones eye, they see what other people can not see....Now this is the point. Father God revealed to Jesus that the Bible is written about him, and Jesus Received that Revelation and said it himself......Now Father God says," let us make man in our own image, Male and Female." So the natural mind looks around and believe all that he sees is the truth, But for everyone that is Born from Father God they see the truth. Father god is one, because it is the spirit that is in us that makes us one with Father God, so he being Male and Female made us Male and female. The Sum of all this is, all a person needs, to be A child of God is the spirit of God, that only Father God can give, that is is why Jesus kept it simple and says "ONLY BELIEVE". To Believe, this is given by Father God. When Father God is ready for any of his children to see the truth, no one can stop it from happening. This is why he says, "My sheep HEARS MY VOICE AND ANOTHER THEY WILL NOT FOLLOW." Think about this, when Jesus came into the world he came just like us in an Earthen Vessel, flesh and blood, but the truth was hidden, because it was really Father God walking, talking and doing everything, so because these people was not given Father God's spirit they said, CRUCIFY HIM. They could not see that this was Father God. This was what was given to them, Blindness, because only our spirit knows the truth...... So Let us humble ourselves and be lead by Father God, and do not let Pride blind us, but rather let Humility give us light, that light is Jesus.... Let me say this, i do not debate with people about the Bible because i believe Jesus when he says the Bible is about him. I believe Jesus, so what ever shape or form you come in to get me to take my eyes off Jesus, i see you, Satan and your seed. Just remember i ask my Father God everything. And He answers me. He is my Daddy! Those who are puffed up and believe that Quoting scriptures makes them a christian. Jesus looks at all of us and knows who belongs to him, and we know him because he speaks to us. Again Jesus says the bible is about him. I believe Jesus. Any one that does not believe Jesus will not understand his speech. I do not debate. If it is not given to you to understand the scriptures, then it is not given. Only Jesus can open your eyes to see the truth, believe Jesus. And only Jesus. Ask him questions. Know him for yourself.
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Have you seen the picture of her today? What are your feelings? I hope she can find peace now and is happy, everyone deserves to be happy. It must be hell living your life in the wrong body. I did hear on tv, her mother will always call her Bruce, do you agree?
Hard to believe he was an Olympic Champion. The jokes are going around too. I wish I knew what the He... Happened. Only God knows his heart. We can only pray that he has found peace. BMaston12
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I would say to each his own. But I am sick of hearing about it. It seems like the liberal biased news cannot get enough and then have to see it posted all over facebook also. A little of this goes a long ways. I know there are far more important things to talk about then this.
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I dont think his/her story is news. It is his/her private life and should remain that way. So tired of stupid stuff being news-worthy.
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Doesn't really matter to me.. It's great that she has the love and support from friends and family, but it's being overplayed in the news
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I think it is sick.
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i think it is a shame. i am entitled to my opinion so i think it is a horrible thing to do to his wife after 20 some years what a slap in the face i think every one saying she is happy for him what is she suppose to do
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I am completely supportive. We are all different!!
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I'm so tired of the whole thing. Could do without all the hype :confused1:
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I don't give a hoot about it. I think it is taking too much of the news and tv time.There are too many things going on in the world.
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Regardless of the situation, we still need to treat people the way we want to be treated ourselves.
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I hope she is happy with her life. I don't think it is anyone's business but her's, her family's and her God.
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i think it is a shame. i am entitled to my opinion so i think it is a horrible thing to do to his wife after 20 some years what a slap in the face i think every one saying she is happy for him what is she suppose to do
They're divorced.
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More publicity for his show.
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i feel it is his life if he is happy so be it no one has te right to tell him any different
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Well, we live in the great Usa. So people have that right to what they please. It does not matter to me either way that is not my life. If that is what makes them happy let it be.
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I have no comment on this why know who knows
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Whatever he or she wants is fine with me. Supposedly he suffered many years with this issue and now he gets the chance to live as he chooses.
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i really don't care either way. i don't agree with her choices but i'm not the one that answers to her maker for what she does. as long as it doesnt directly affect my daily life i tend to not pay much attention to celebrities
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Whilst I don't have any real understanding of what it must be like to live in the wrong body, I feel sorry for anyone who feels incomplete until they have a body change. It's a major transformation and one can never know how one is going to feel until the transformation is complete. But what if it is not what you expected? what if you change your mind? What if you finish the transformation and are happy to begin with, but then feel you are neither male or female? I don't know what the answers are.
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I think it is sick.
I agree with you.
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What ever floats his/her boat. Bruce has to live with this and his family also. I do not know how I would feel if one day my mom said she wants to be a man. Strange and touchy subject.
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I feel like this is just something so irrelevant to my life that I just don't care. I think that if he was just a normal person no body would even care. People are going to have their opinions but I think its cool he finally came out and hope that he is happy with his decision.
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What ever floats his boat, it's his/her business
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I find it disgusting honestly and sad for her kids - I'm sure that opinion won't be popular among some but it is my opinion none-the-less I don't think God makes mistakes and I believe we are what we are supposed to be. But he?she has the money to do what he/she wants so that is a good thing. I guess the rest who are "in the wrong body" are just out of luck. Now with all that said it is not my place to judge this person or any other because if its a sin all have sinned and come short so it is between him/her and God.
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Just because we might agree on how bible or God feels about all of these unnatural decisions this world makes doesnt mean we bring hate or judgment into the issue,Jehovah sees the heart condition of all of us.He will judge us all.
We can agree or disagree with HIS commands because of freedom of choice that HE has given us all.To agree with HIS commands are for our benefit but it doesnt mean we are forced to obey.
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His wife destroyed his soul and pride. She deserves to be ban from media outlets and thrown off the airways. Poor Bruce, but at least he is happy.
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I think Bruce/Catlyn is overexposed as with the rest of the family. I'm just frankly tired of hearing about them all the time. as to gender, this is his/her choice. I'm more into/concerned about the fatality he caused some time ago. I don't hear much press. I'm still perturbed of no possible jail time. Was the other family given any form of justice?
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I find all this very confusing. How can he explain it to his kids? I think it is one way for the family to stay in the limelight, all the time ???
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I don't care to see anymore of the Jenners
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If he/she is happy, so am I. ::)