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Mario Batali has just been accused of groping women in his restaurant and tv show. He has left the Chew daytime show and Food Network has pulled his show. What’s going on lately, it seems like everyday you hear about another person being accused.
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Finally, a lot of sick rich and famous people getting caught in the act now.
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I don't understand these women, if it was so bad for them when these men did this stuff to them why, I ask why wait 10, 20 even 30 years later to come out with it now. Can some one please make me understand this. Because if it was done to me, I don't care who you were I would be yelling from the roof top.
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Back in my younger days when a man got fresh with you, we took care of it right away. The laws were not there yet to really protect us. That is why many men got slapped and taken care of by our selves. Now it is a lot different. When my niece was being stalked, at work and at home she came to me and I told her to take care of it now. Don't put it off. She went and reported it. The man continued to do it. Now it is going to go to court and she has kept all of the messages he sent her and the court is now considering how much they can charge the creep with. I don't understand why they have waited so long. If you can't prove it why put your self out there. You had better be able to prove it. But I think some are being paid for it.
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We can be animals. Well what's your drug, it's hard to handle power. A lot of people need to take power naps at all ages, through out day, maybe than crazy level would be tamed, right, indeed :rainbow:.
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Mario Batali has just been accused of groping women in his restaurant and tv show. He has left the Chew daytime show and Food Network has pulled his show. What’s going on lately, it seems like everyday you hear about another person being accused.
I honestly do not believe all this. I don't know who this person is but it is all day every day all these women all of a sudden decide to say a man acted inappropriate. Being accused is the key word. But once their rep is destroyed they don't get it back. Why do they wait years to say anything? I don't believe any of them done anything they didn't want to do. They do what they do to get ahead of somebody else then get mad later and wanna cry r-a-p-e and that is not fair.
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I don't understand these women, if it was so bad for them when these men did this stuff to them why, I ask why wait 10, 20 even 30 years later to come out with it now. Can some one please make me understand this. Because if it was done to me, I don't care who you were I would be yelling from the roof top.
I agree. I thought there was a statue of limitations. Like with Cosby they were coming out of the wood work from 20 years ago. They didn't do anything they didn't want to do. I mean come on, you live in a playboy house. They used him to get ahead. And tried to use him again to get money.
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Back in my younger days when a man got fresh with you, we took care of it right away. The laws were not there yet to really protect us. That is why many men got slapped and taken care of by our selves. Now it is a lot different. When my niece was being stalked, at work and at home she came to me and I told her to take care of it now. Don't put it off. She went and reported it. The man continued to do it. Now it is going to go to court and she has kept all of the messages he sent her and the court is now considering how much they can charge the creep with. I don't understand why they have waited so long. If you can't prove it why put your self out there. You had better be able to prove it. But I think some are being paid for it.
I never thought of that but you probably are right. About the being paid part.
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Yeah it is hitting every realm of society. I just heard Donavan Mcnabb did it too.
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It just seems to me that a lot of men are being accused of sexual advances that happened a long time ago. If this was so bad for these women why wait this long to come forward.
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Ppl with power feel there are no real consequences when you can use money,deals or threats. Women of power have done the same(Leona Helmsley and Stephanie Powers) both come to mind, but men and testosterone are a lethal mix when they have power and money.
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This is happening in everywhere. It seems that like this is unstoppable. But I'm glad Roy Moore lost the Alabama senate as he failed to prove his innocence over sexual misconduct he was accused of.
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I was surprised it was women who accused him because to me he seemed gay.
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It is disgusting.
I hate hearing about it, but needs to be cleaned out.
However, women can be abusive also. They can be vindictive.
I am an old woman, 74, and seen really mean women....the way they talk to men, treat them, and then some accuse to be vindictive, or out of spite. Wanting to sue.
The women are not necessarily innocent. Before judging, we must see the evidence.
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I love that women are saying "ENOUGH !!!!" My gender from our teens onward is filled with "guys guys" being aholes,trash talking,using and abusing women...The saying goes "Payback is a b***h" Many guys are guilty of some wrongdoing towards women but when it's abuse or harassment,threats and such then it's a whole different level. Worst I ever did was ignore the woman I loved and made her feel sad because I was angry at myself for screwing up our relationship,so we're all guilty of something. Live and learn because all of life is a learning experience.
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I can't believe these people have gotten by with this sick degenerate stuff they are being accused of - ridiculous that people have no morals or ethics. I think the world is going to you know where in a hand basket as my grandma used to say. Evil so evil. And my sons don't understand why I don't want grandchildren.
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If the stories are true about all these men, that's karma, but I think a lot of it is hysteria. I've heard of some innocent accidental touches and women called it sexual assault.
Most of these women don't know the meaning of sexual assault. Complimenting a woman on her looks or what she'w wearing isn't sexual assault. How can a hand on the shoulder be sexual assault? One woman accuser said Trump came in her dressing room while she was naked. No, it was proven in her OWN WORDS that she had a robe on, so she wasn't naked unless she opened her robe and flashed him.
There needs to be evidence like in the case of Franken. Can't just take their word for it. look at some of the careers and lives ruined in the past because of lies. Duke LaCross, Tawana Brawley, the lie that started riots in NY and a man lost his business, which ruined his life. Others have a vendetta against a man because they just don't like him. It could also be political. If political, I wouldn't doubt if some are being paid to lie.
As for Mario, that doesn't seen right. I don't know if I believe that one. Oh, and let's not forget that women can sexually assault men, too. Will men come out? Some have, but their stories were pushed into the background because they aren't women. Is that fair?
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countrygirl12:
Why am I NOT surprised that you do not believe the women? Most of what you post is ignorant and rude. I rarely respond to your posts because I find you annoying.
Many women DID come forward, but the times were different, and no one was listening.
Also, in different times, a woman was actually blamed for whatever event occurred.
Heaven's no, let's never place blame where it belongs, on the offending party.
I also think that this is the only good side effect of a Donald Trump presidency. We have a President who jokes about grabbing women by the genitals and kissing them without their permission as if they are nothing but playthings to be tossed aside after he gets tired of them.
Therefore, women who would normally keep silent are now coming forward and saying "enough!"
Stop talking because every time you speak, I.Q. points fall to the floor.
There's one, ooh, here's another one . . .
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SFreeman:
Trump is on tape, bragging that he got away with walking into the changing rooms of the Miss America Pageant while the women were dressing. He also bragged that he loves beautiful women and that when he sees one, that he just starts kissing them. I heard this tape, and the words coming out of this man's mouth.
Women assaulting men DOES happen, but it is virtually unheard of. And yes, there may be a few cases here or there where the woman lied or got the wrong idea but those cases are rare.
Women know what sexual assault is, know when it is happening, and the last thing we need is other women calling the victims "hysterical."
I have to believe in other women. Women do not get together and decide to start accusing people of sex crimes for no reason.
Men have been in power for a very long time. To think that sexual abuse is rare is not only naive, but it is cruel.
Every woman who makes an accusation deserves to be heard.
Karma being what it is, be very careful. One day, you, your daughters, sisters, mothers, and friends could be victims.
THEN, you will be on the wrong end of comments like yours and Country Girl's.
Just saying . . .
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So many of the same allegations truly makes me wonder if they are truthful or do we just live in a perverted world with never having a voice and now all of a sudden women from all over are growing a huge set of cajones! Very sad!
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Back in my younger days when a man got fresh with you, we took care of it right away. The laws were not there yet to really protect us. That is why many men got slapped and taken care of by our selves. Now it is a lot different. When my niece was being stalked, at work and at home she came to me and I told her to take care of it now. Don't put it off. She went and reported it. The man continued to do it. Now it is going to go to court and she has kept all of the messages he sent her and the court is now considering how much they can charge the creep with. I don't understand why they have waited so long. If you can't prove it why put your self out there. You had better be able to prove it. But I think some are being paid for it.
I'm curious as to what age you are. I'm 35 and I didn't grow up in a culture where that was socially acceptable. I am def not saying anything against you. I think that women should have the capabilities to stand up for themselves, whether that be telling a guy off or having to get physical. And I applaud your advice to your niece and wish her luck at her trial.
However, where and when I was growing up standing up to a guy would not be allowed. You would simply go home and tell your father or the other man in your life. And you definitely would not be encouraged to go to the police. I do not agree with that statement, but that is how things were and how they still mostly are down south. I believe that the men in the family should protect their women, but it is also important for a woman to stand up for herself and be able to. Both my son and daughter will be enrolled in self defense. I should be able to interchange the words son and daughter with the following sentence: if my ___ cannot defend his/her self then my ____ will defend them. I except my children to defend each other and I defend my spouse as he defends me. Family should always protect each other.
As for the women who are pouring out of the word works now with accusations, a lot of them had the capability to leave but didn't want to. They could have left Hollywood and gotten regular jobs. They could have stopped modeling and gone to work somewhere else. They didn't and at the time that was the contract. Sleep with the guy in charge and get the job. Everyone knew that's how it went back then. They sold themselves to get ahead. It was wrong but not wrong at the time. I am glad that they are changing the ways, but these women got paid from their 'assaults' by getting the careers that they wanted. They could have come out at the time, no one would have believed them. Back then, they had two choices. Accept the assault and get the promotion, job, etc. Or leave.
I don't condone it because it was the only choice at the time. Women are still sleeping with men/women to get what they want, only now they are crying out about it b/c they can get fame/money out of it. Men need to stop letting it happen and women need to be smarter about what situations they put themselves in. I am a female, but I don't think that a girl in a tube top and mini skirt walking drunk home from a bar by herself is safe whatsoever. A girl in full hijab walking home from the library late at night isn't safe either. It doesn't matter what you wear, it's the situation you put yourself in. Wear what you want but realize that what you wear does make a difference. it's not 'asking for it' to wear something provocative. It is asking for it to assume that you are going to be safe if you go home with a stranger, walk home in the dark, etc. In this day and age we have cell phones, security guards at clubs, etc. If you are out by yourself, you need to protect yourself. The same goes for guys as well.
To sum up: the times are changing, some women are telling the truth, some are trying to get money, and society is trying to change for the better but it takes time for all of us to get the message, believe it, and change our feelings. For crying out loud, we're still fighting racism today. Everyone thinks that as soon as there's one change, the rest of society will change asap. It doesn't work that way. Everyone should protect each other, but until we all catch up to that, everyone needs to protect themselves.
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Let's also not forget that women are predators as well. I.E. Melanie Martinez.
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I think its funny how everything was aimed at trump and failed but the accusers are the ones busted. I'd like to see bill Clinton answer for his bad behavior.
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I think it is crazy to bring up something that happened 20 years ago.
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I think the difference b/w Trump and Clinton is that American got mad at Clinton for him an affair with another willing adult. Trump, on the other hand, really enjoys bragging in a negative manner about his bedroom exploits with women. Whether true or imaginary. Trump should keep his mouth shut and Clinton needs to keep his pants up.
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We lowered the bar when Bill Clinton was elected President (twice!) after the information came out about his sexual escapades. Unbelievable! The highest office and honor in the USA should not have belonged to someone with his morals. So, if the President can practice that type of behavior why would anyone else think it was wrong for them to do the same?
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I love that women are saying "ENOUGH !!!!" My gender from our teens onward is filled with "guys guys" being aholes,trash talking,using and abusing women...The saying goes "Payback is a b***h" Many guys are guilty of some wrongdoing towards women but when it's abuse or harassment,threats and such then it's a whole different level. Worst I ever did was ignore the woman I loved and made her feel sad because I was angry at myself for screwing up our relationship,so we're all guilty of something. Live and learn because all of life is a learning experience.
lol. Women are just as bad or worse than any men. They do whatever they want to try to get ahead and then cry rape. Or they cry some lie about sexual whatever to try to get money.
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If the stories are true about all these men, that's karma, but I think a lot of it is hysteria. I've heard of some innocent accidental touches and women called it sexual assault.
Most of these women don't know the meaning of sexual assault. Complimenting a woman on her looks or what she'w wearing isn't sexual assault. How can a hand on the shoulder be sexual assault? One woman accuser said Trump came in her dressing room while she was naked. No, it was proven in her OWN WORDS that she had a robe on, so she wasn't naked unless she opened her robe and flashed him.
There needs to be evidence like in the case of Franken. Can't just take their word for it. look at some of the careers and lives ruined in the past because of lies. Duke LaCross, Tawana Brawley, the lie that started riots in NY and a man lost his business, which ruined his life. Others have a vendetta against a man because they just don't like him. It could also be political. If political, I wouldn't doubt if some are being paid to lie.
As for Mario, that doesn't seen right. I don't know if I believe that one. Oh, and let's not forget that women can sexually assault men, too. Will men come out? Some have, but their stories were pushed into the background because they aren't women. Is that fair?
It isn't assault but a man doesn't have the right to make sexual comments to a woman. But she needs to take care of it right then not wait 20 years and say oh he said and done this to me and he needs to give me money.
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I think the women should be heard, but honestly I think being heard so many years later in most cases is a little bit ridiculous. They should speak up immediately.
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Mario Batali has just been accused of groping women in his restaurant and tv show. He has left the Chew daytime show and Food Network has pulled his show. What’s going on lately, it seems like everyday you hear about another person being accused.
I just hope everyone being accused has actually done the crime that they are being accused of (as sad as that was to put into words) This is a movement for everyone in the world to have the courage to speak up if something has been done to them. So many people are ashamed or fearful of speaking out against someone who has sexually abused them.
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Many of these
Mario Batali has just been accused of groping women in his restaurant and tv show. He has left the Chew daytime show and Food Network has pulled his show. What’s going on lately, it seems like everyday you hear about another person being accused.
I just hope everyone being accused has actually done the crime that they are being accused of (as sad as that was to put into words) This is a movement for everyone in the world to have the courage to speak up if something has been done to them. So many people are ashamed or fearful of speaking out against someone who has sexually abused them.
Mario has admitted to a problem, mostly when he was drinking. In fact the bulk of the people accused have admitted to some of the accusations and not called everyone who said anything about them a liar. This is a problem across the board not just in the entertainment industry. I think it needs to be looked at case by case so that the people just being vindictive cannot get away with it. I worked for a police department in a large city for a time, and even when you did come forward you were treated like it was your fault. It was treated as a very low priority and evidence sat around for years before they did anything. Reading some of the comments on here, you can see why it is still very tough for some to come out. You have to have a strong support group around you and be strong yourself to go through this, it is sometimes worse than the original assault. Also many people now are having real guilt trips that they did not speak out sooner and prevent this from happening to others. Thank God attitudes are changing so that victims can come forward. Also people need to be able to differentiate between an attack and an accidental touch, or a rude and insensitive comment.
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We lowered the bar when Bill Clinton was elected President (twice!) after the information came out about his sexual escapades. Unbelievable! The highest office and honor in the USA should not have belonged to someone with his morals. So, if the President can practice that type of behavior why would anyone else think it was wrong for them to do the same?
I'm sorry, but twenty years later and I still don't understand why everyone was so upset about that. I get that he cheated on his wife, but it was with another consenting adult. Presidents have lives outside of the presidency. As long as it didn't have anything to do with giving away state secrets I don't care (and have never cared) that he got some action underneath the desk of the oval office. He wasn't bragging about it, Monica was willing. Really, the only people whose business it was would be the three people involved.
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We lowered the bar when Bill Clinton was elected President (twice!) after the information came out about his sexual escapades. Unbelievable! The highest office and honor in the USA should not have belonged to someone with his morals. So, if the President can practice that type of behavior why would anyone else think it was wrong for them to do the same?
Er...um..Clinton's indiscretion ocurred after he was in office and was between two consenting adults. Still not right because he was married to someone else and the location of his infidelity was lacking in decorum. It appears that the current president finds the accusations of nineteen accusers to be fake news and voters knew about it prior to him taking office. A video that shares his feelings about indiscrimately grabbing women's private parts (using a horribly, uncouth term to describe what he was grabbing), that he has apologized for, is also now fake news. Both he and his wife have been in indecent film ventures that are easy enough to locate on google. With role models like these it seems to be no wonder that other sub-human individuals feel that they can take advantage of their positions in power to demean people (male or female).
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Unfortunately, there are a lot of men and women with
physical and mental disabilities in this world. It is all
"very disgusting".
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I think we are seeing a recent wave all because of Harvey Weinstein. For the longest time, despite the accusations, he was still in powerful and almost untouchable. Every since his fall, women have seen that their voices make a difference now. If the one of the biggest predators can be taken down then no one can hide from these misconducts.
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So much craziness going on that's for sure
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Mario Batali has just been accused of groping women in his restaurant and tv show. He has left the Chew daytime show and Food Network has pulled his show. What’s going on lately, it seems like everyday you hear about another person being accused.
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After hearing about all of these accusations one question pops into my mind which is why now? I myself been sexually assaulted before but did not report it as I didn't feel I had enough proof. If these men really did these things to these women I hope they pay their retributions. I don't really want to judge these men until I have more information. Furthermore, I want women to stop faking sexual assaults which make it difficult for real victims to come out. May the truth bring closure if it is the truth! :heart: :rose: :heart: :rose: :heart: :rose: :heart: :rose: :heart: :rose: :heart: :rose: :heart: :rose: :heart: :rose: :heart: :rose: :heart: :rose: :heart: :rose: :heart: :rose: :heart: :rose: :heart: :rose: :heart: :rose: :heart: :rose: :heart: :rose:
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Many of these Mario Batali has just been accused of groping women in his restaurant and tv show. He has left the Chew daytime show and Food Network has pulled his show. What’s going on lately, it seems like everyday you hear about another person being accused.
I just hope everyone being accused has actually done the crime that they are being accused of (as sad as that was to put into words) This is a movement for everyone in the world to have the courage to speak up if something has been done to them. So many people are ashamed or fearful of speaking out against someone who has sexually abused them.
Mario has admitted to a problem, mostly when he was drinking. In fact the bulk of the people accused have admitted to some of the accusations and not called everyone who said anything about them a liar. This is a problem across the board not just in the entertainment industry. I think it needs to be looked at case by case so that the people just being vindictive cannot get away with it. I worked for a police department in a large city for a time, and even when you did come forward you were treated like it was your fault. It was treated as a very low priority and evidence sat around for years before they did anything. Reading some of the comments on here, you can see why it is still very tough for some to come out. You have to have a strong support group around you and be strong yourself to go through this, it is sometimes worse than the original assault. Also many people now are having real guilt trips that they did not speak out sooner and prevent this from happening to others. Thank God attitudes are changing so that victims can come forward. Also people need to be able to differentiate between an attack and an accidental touch, or a rude and insensitive comment.
Not sure what new sources you are looking at but from what I am seeing the majority have denied that any of what they are accused of is true. Women do a lot to bring stuff on themselves and then want to scream rape later. You can't dress like a *bleep* and hang all over a man and then when something happens cry rape. And most of them do it of their own free will and then change their mind or get mad when they realize they were just a one night stand and they didn't mean anything and want to cry rape. I don't believe any of it. My opinion and I have a right to that. Nobody has to agree with me. But I feel like most of them are lying. Esp if it has been 20 years.
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i am so tired of all this i however think 2018 will be the year it al comes to light .
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It does seem a like of these terrible issues keep popping up. It's odd in a way, but I think it's happening because our society is now to the point where it'll take these complaints seriously whereas in the past a woman might have been worried about receiving justice. It's good that so many women feel they can come forward now.
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gotta keep ya hands to yaself!
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It does seem a like of these terrible issues keep popping up. It's odd in a way, but I think it's happening because our society is now to the point where it'll take these complaints seriously whereas in the past a woman might have been worried about receiving justice. It's good that so many women feel they can come forward now.
I don't think so. Read the comments on the stories. MOST people do not believe it. They aren't being "taken seriously" especially when it was from 20 years ago. People roll their eyes and move on. I think the women are seeing it as an easy pay out. So they make accusations to try to get money. If I were on the jury and it was one word against the other I would not believe her over him just because she said unless there was some pretty strong evidence that something had happened. It's kind of funny but when a woman was accused of sexual misconduct every one just shoved that to the side. WHY? Why are women not held accountable for the things they do?
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I think one of the reasons many of these women didn't immediately report these situations is because the men had power, notoriety, and money whereas the woman was in a much "lesser" position, sometimes depending on these men to not blackball them in their careers. I don't believe every single one of these incidents are true, but I believe the majority of them happened. It is amazing how many women will blame another woman rather than stand up for their own sex after the many years that women have been in positions where they have been subordinate to men. It is the story of history! I am sure another reason women have spoken up is the solidarity of others speaking up and feeling safer to do so!
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Any comments about how the way one dresses can cause rape are misleading. I can attest to the fact that there were times I did dress inappropriately, but it was my behavior that ultimately led to situations that were "close calls". :-[
I know that I let things go too far at times and it ended badly. Almost being raped is a very traumatic thing, but I wonder if sometimes women are letting things go too far and then are unable to back out of the situation without some bad things happening.
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And just like right here, they determined guilty before proven. I'm sure a lot of these are legitimate and I am also sure a lot of them aren't. This could be said about any guy in the world and it would ruin them no matter what the outcome is.
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These Rich and famous people think because they have money that they can get away with everything. I'm glad that he was cought. It shows that they aren't above the law
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It's such a shame that there are so many sick psychopaths that you have to deal with. They just continue being outed by someone because they feel that they can continue doing it and not paying for being a sick-o.
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Yes, everyday it seems to be someone new; I think it is something that has been going on for a long time and when victims are now speaking it's giving other courage to come out and share their stories.
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Been quiet on this newsfront lately(Matt Damon's stupid remarks are the last I've read involving this) These lowlives must be hiring lawyers in preemptive damage control since all's quite on the Hollywood Front.
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yep its all bad now,,,, :( :( :(
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We lowered the bar when Bill Clinton was elected President (twice!) after the information came out about his sexual escapades. Unbelievable! The highest office and honor in the USA should not have belonged to someone with his morals. So, if the President can practice that type of behavior why would anyone else think it was wrong for them to do the same?
I'm sorry, but twenty years later and I still don't understand why everyone was so upset about that. I get that he cheated on his wife, but it was with another consenting adult. Presidents have lives outside of the presidency. As long as it didn't have anything to do with giving away state secrets I don't care (and have never cared) that he got some action underneath the desk of the oval office. He wasn't bragging about it, Monica was willing. Really, the only people whose business it was would be the three people involved.
And FYI EVERY other man and woman that are high up in politics have cheated on their spouse. And you are right Monica done what she wanted to do. She was trying to further her own agenda and that is how she done it. She got mad and cried rape later when he didn't leave his hag bag wife and go with her.
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The more the women start speeking up the more others will do the same.
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These rich and famous people think that tjey can get away with anything. I'm glad that he was cought
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I wonder why it took so long to tell someone about what has been going on with the creeps who prey on women. It's about time that they are being called out.
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Well, it was long overdue, but society is slowly coming around the shocking concept that sexual harassment and sexual assault are intolerable and they must be stopped at all costs. It's about time these slimeballs are exposed for the monsters they are. Power to the victims...correction: VICTORS.
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This whole thing makes me sad. I am glad that people are coming forward to bring this situation that has been going on for YEARS into the light. I hope that the true victims find some peace, and I pray that no one is falsely accused (but I fear that will happen, as adriarobi said, people can be vintictive)
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I think that it is pretty digusting for men to do that to women especially the rich men, they could have probably any woman they want. >:(
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They think just because they are rich and famous they can do whatever they want and get away with it, you can't touch anyone without their permission, especially in the work force.
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Many people have been molested and remain silent for personal reasons or whatever, but that don't mean it didn't happen even if it was many years ago. It the same as being abused some don't tell that either until they reach a breaking point and some never tell.
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Who knows how many of them tell the truth?
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It is disgusting.
I hate hearing about it, but needs to be cleaned out.
However, women can be abusive also. They can be vindictive.
I am an old woman, 74, and seen really mean women....the way they talk to men, treat them, and then some accuse to be vindictive, or out of spite. Wanting to sue.
The women are not necessarily innocent. Before judging, we must see the evidence.
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Yes, I agree with you and that hurts the women who truly are abused. There are a lot of women who accuse men of abuse just to collect on a lawsuit. They want to make easy money. I think, if it is discovered that a woman has falsely accused a man of sexual abuse, she should do jail time. That can ruin a man's life and his family's too.
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It really is sad that so many are being accused. Even worse if it's true.
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It's easy to believe though,regular ppl can do it so the rich and powerful have more ways
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I was sad and sorry to hear that.
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Guessing there are going to be tons and tons more going to pop up on the news, Just sad that there's so much of them.