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Now up to 6 of them and not getting any help at all from the rescue sites. I won't take them to the shelters because they'll be euthanized immediately. I've socialized the 2 adult males, 1 adult female, and one ? kitten. The kitten is so loving as are the males. The mom to the kittens and the other kitten are "miss Priss" and don't want anything to do with us. Alley Cat Allies gave me a bunch of emails and the local ones aren't valid. That's really nice of them so I emailed them and told them about it!
I've been trying since last spring to find a place for them or at least get some kind of information/help with them. We're on SS and after expenses, are left with $800 a month without groceries, gas, and it just doesn't stretch. No Nonsense Neutering charges $15 a female cat but I forget what it is for male. Anyway, can't squeeze that money out of the budget. The kitty in my Avatar is one I had done two years ago and she got sick and died two weeks later. She became our indoor house buddy. :(
I tried looking for a farm for them with no luck either. Any other suggestions? I'm afraid "Valentine's Day" for cats is coming up and don't need any more kids. There is another feral hanging around and 3 possums that I have to fight to keep the food away from them.
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Now up to 6 of them and not getting any help at all from the rescue sites. I won't take them to the shelters because they'll be euthanized immediately. I've socialized the 2 adult males, 1 adult female, and one ? kitten. The kitten is so loving as are the males. The mom to the kittens and the other kitten are "miss Priss" and don't want anything to do with us. Alley Cat Allies gave me a bunch of emails and the local ones aren't valid. That's really nice of them so I emailed them and told them about it!
I've been trying since last spring to find a place for them or at least get some kind of information/help with them. We're on SS and after expenses, are left with $800 a month without groceries, gas, and it just doesn't stretch. No Nonsense Neutering charges $15 a female cat but I forget what it is for male. Anyway, can't squeeze that money out of the budget. The kitty in my Avatar is one I had done two years ago and she got sick and died two weeks later. She became our indoor house buddy. :(
I tried looking for a farm for them with no luck either. Any other suggestions? I'm afraid "Valentine's Day" for cats is coming up and don't need any more kids. There is another feral hanging around and 3 possums that I have to fight to keep the food away from them.
After expenses you have $800 left and you say that doesn't stretch? How can gas and groceries cost you over $800 a month?
Anyway, hard to say because it is going to have to be someone in your area. Look online for no kill rescue organizations. Put your state in the search. You may find some that will take them but they are not going to come get them. And if they are wild that is another strike against them. Maybe find who is responsible for not having them spayed or neutered and letting them run at large.
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I tried to help the cats in my back yard that were wild, but stopped when they kept showing up with friends , got out of control.
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We don't want Feral cats running loose here in town. Have taken a couple out to the farm and my stepfather feeds them and lets them have babies. But as with all wildlife , the owls, harks and such get some of the babies also they go over to a neighbors place and their dogs get some. But at least he tries. But they are not allowed in the house, not trained.
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That seems pretty inexpensive for a spay, and a male neuter should be even less because the procedure is less invasive and much quicker. Although I completely understand that they're not "yours" and that obviously you can't neuter the whole feral cat community.
Are there any TNR (Trap-Neuter-Release) services in your area? Maybe call local veterinarians for more info/resources, if the rescues aren't helping.
(On a side note, I had 2 hours to kill for lunch today during my veterinary conferences. I had 2 beers that cost $17 total - more than my food. So a $15 spay sounds like winning the lottery to me. Haha!)
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keep em in the wild
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Find a no kill shelter and take them there. It can get expensive, especially when they always seem to keep bringing friends.
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keep em in the wild
So they continue to breed and make more and more and it gets totally out of control? I have a physco neighbor that at one time had over 40 cats (I do not live in the country). She refuses to get any of them fixed. AC came and trapped about half of them. But she has just went and got more. The woman is crazy and needs to be charged with hoarding. And all the other neighbors do not want her multitude of cats on their property tearing stuff up.
Most cats will have at least 5 kittens at a time. Multiply that times 4 a year and you are talking an addition of 20 cats. When you have more than one having kittens - it doesn't take long to have a serious problem. People want to cry about cats being put down because no one wants them. What else are you suppose to do? You have 700 cats that no one wants.
Take it a step further... you have the idiots protesting because animals are left outside in the cold. Screaming how they need to be put in jail. You have 700 wild cats that have no shelter or no real source of food.
Not to mention the cats end up being inbred because they are all there together and will mate with relatives which WILL cause problems.
So if you live in the country and have cats coming around if you do not feed them they will leave. If you do feed them they will hang around. If that happens then you need to get them fixed so they cannot reproduce. I have seen first hand it does not take long to have a serious problem.
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Stop feeding them and maybe they will go away. BTW I wish I had $800. for gas and groceries a month.
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we havea shelter here that is no kill..my daughter feeds feral cats..and they give her some food to help and have told her to bring in one a ta time when she can get them...they fix them for free as long as they are feral cats..
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My brother who lives in the country feeds all the wild cats that come around and he built them a shelter. He tamed one of them, and she became a house cat. I guess he doesn't worry about cat populations.
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My sister's neighborhood has a major feral cat problem. They had to spend a bundle on cleaning up their landscaping to avoid giving mother cats a place to hole up and that seemed to help. They finally had a spring without a litter being born in their yard. We were sad to realize the shelters were totally overwhelmed here too when we called around about finding homes for the last batch.
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My sister's neighborhood has a major feral cat problem. They had to spend a bundle on cleaning up their landscaping to avoid giving mother cats a place to hole up and that seemed to help. They finally had a spring without a litter being born in their yard. We were sad to realize the shelters were totally overwhelmed here too when we called around about finding homes for the last batch.
Our shelter is also overwhelmed. But I don't know what to do since you can't take a ball bat to the head of the idiot causing the problem. Our shelter is suppose to be a no kill shelter. I am hoping there are not a bunch of kittens again this year. But I know she has males and females that are not fixed so I am sure there will be inbred kittens in no time. Several of the cats are also covered in sores. Something has got to be done.
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We see some cats go through our backyard. As long we don't feed them, they keep going which is fine with me. If I want a pet, I will go the Humane Society and adopt one. The ones running around outside are not on my list, nor are they my responsibility to feed and shelter.
Perhaps growing up on a farm gives me this perspective. Outside cats are outside cats. They hunt and they survive.
Our kids all have indoor pet cats whom they love dearly. These cats get all the treatment.....vet visits, annual shots, food, shelter, love.
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Keep trying, these kitties deserve a good home! most shelters won't put them down like they would back in the 80's. Contact the Humane Society, I'm sure they'll help or at the very least give you some helpful ideas. Good luck!
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I think it is just wonderful of you to be so good to those cats even though it is a financial strain for you. I truly hope you find help with those cats.
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Now up to 6 of them and not getting any help at all from the rescue sites. I won't take them to the shelters because they'll be euthanized immediately. I've socialized the 2 adult males, 1 adult female, and one ? kitten. The kitten is so loving as are the males. The mom to the kittens and the other kitten are "miss Priss" and don't want anything to do with us. Alley Cat Allies gave me a bunch of emails and the local ones aren't valid. That's really nice of them so I emailed them and told them about it!
I've been trying since last spring to find a place for them or at least get some kind of information/help with them. We're on SS and after expenses, are left with $800 a month without groceries, gas, and it just doesn't stretch. No Nonsense Neutering charges $15 a female cat but I forget what it is for male. Anyway, can't squeeze that money out of the budget. The kitty in my Avatar is one I had done two years ago and she got sick and died two weeks later. She became our indoor house buddy. :(
I tried looking for a farm for them with no luck either. Any other suggestions? I'm afraid "Valentine's Day" for cats is coming up and don't need any more kids. There is another feral hanging around and 3 possums that I have to fight to keep the food away from them.
After expenses you have $800 left and you say that doesn't stretch? How can gas and groceries cost you over $800 a month?
Anyway, hard to say because it is going to have to be someone in your area. Look online for no kill rescue organizations. Put your state in the search. You may find some that will take them but they are not going to come get them. And if they are wild that is another strike against them. Maybe find who is responsible for not having them spayed or neutered and letting them run at large.
We have other expenses besides groceries and gas since we own a home, have to save so much each month towards the outrageous property taxes, upkeep, any car repairs, emergencies, life, health, home and car insurances, etc. But why am I telling you. You think $800 is a lot of money. Try living on it with all the expenses.
I did look on line for other places and those out of county won't take them. We only have 2 shelters in this county and one is a total euthanizing shelter for any animals they think won't ever be adopted and/or ferals and stray dogs. The other one is full. They have over 230 cats. I wouldn't mind TNR but since I haven't gotten an answer from anyone affiliated with them, I'm sort of stuck.
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I follow this guy on Twitter that had a feral cat come & gave birth to 4 kittens under his bed... he left his back door open... and then decided to keep them all after not have anyone claim the mother. He posts pictures & writes narratives of his story on Twitter.... he is an up and coming producer or something; and anyway people wanted to help him so he put up a wish list on Amazon & people sent him stuff to take care of the cats; he also made a gofund me page & got funded there. Perhaps you could do something similar on social media, people love to help people that are helping animals. Just a thought. Thank you for taking care of the cats!
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Now up to 6 of them and not getting any help at all from the rescue sites. I won't take them to the shelters because they'll be euthanized immediately. I've socialized the 2 adult males, 1 adult female, and one ? kitten. The kitten is so loving as are the males. The mom to the kittens and the other kitten are "miss Priss" and don't want anything to do with us. Alley Cat Allies gave me a bunch of emails and the local ones aren't valid. That's really nice of them so I emailed them and told them about it!
I've been trying since last spring to find a place for them or at least get some kind of information/help with them. We're on SS and after expenses, are left with $800 a month without groceries, gas, and it just doesn't stretch. No Nonsense Neutering charges $15 a female cat but I forget what it is for male. Anyway, can't squeeze that money out of the budget. The kitty in my Avatar is one I had done two years ago and she got sick and died two weeks later. She became our indoor house buddy. :(
I tried looking for a farm for them with no luck either. Any other suggestions? I'm afraid "Valentine's Day" for cats is coming up and don't need any more kids. There is another feral hanging around and 3 possums that I have to fight to keep the food away from them.
After expenses you have $800 left and you say that doesn't stretch? How can gas and groceries cost you over $800 a month?
Anyway, hard to say because it is going to have to be someone in your area. Look online for no kill rescue organizations. Put your state in the search. You may find some that will take them but they are not going to come get them. And if they are wild that is another strike against them. Maybe find who is responsible for not having them spayed or neutered and letting them run at large.
We have other expenses besides groceries and gas since we own a home, have to save so much each month towards the outrageous property taxes, upkeep, any car repairs, emergencies, life, health, home and car insurances, etc. But why am I telling you. You think $800 is a lot of money. Try living on it with all the expenses.
I did look on line for other places and those out of county won't take them. We only have 2 shelters in this county and one is a total euthanizing shelter for any animals they think won't ever be adopted and/or ferals and stray dogs. The other one is full. They have over 230 cats. I wouldn't mind TNR but since I haven't gotten an answer from anyone affiliated with them, I'm sort of stuck.
Try living on $800-$1000 with that being your total income. Not just what you have left after mortgage and whatever else you said. If you have that much money then you are pretty well off.
I hate to see a ton of cats or dogs or whatever just killed but oh well. Maybe go after the ones who let them run at large and refuse to get them fixed.
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I follow this guy on Twitter that had a feral cat come & gave birth to 4 kittens under his bed... he left his back door open... and then decided to keep them all after not have anyone claim the mother. He posts pictures & writes narratives of his story on Twitter.... he is an up and coming producer or something; and anyway people wanted to help him so he put up a wish list on Amazon & people sent him stuff to take care of the cats; he also made a gofund me page & got funded there. Perhaps you could do something similar on social media, people love to help people that are helping animals. Just a thought. Thank you for taking care of the cats!
The money you get from go fund me is not tax free. Check in to it if you do not believe me. First off GFM takes a percentage of every donation and the total donation. And I am not sure if they send a 1099 for the total of the money they send to you or just expect you to turn it in. But I do know you are required to pay taxes on the money.
Anyone who does not believe me can either go read on their website or send an email to support asking specific questions. I don't remember why but thought about setting up an account for something once and was asking specific questions. We went back and forth a couple of times and the info I found out really surprised me. People think the GFM is just tax free you get it all money and you can with draw it kind of like PP. That is not how it works.
But you are right about one thing....
People will help animals before they will help other people. I remember people crying about cats and dogs being left out in the cold a few weeks ago. These same idiots have no compassion for PEOPLE who are homeless and sleeping out in the cold.
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I follow this guy on Twitter that had a feral cat come & gave birth to 4 kittens under his bed... he left his back door open... and then decided to keep them all after not have anyone claim the mother. He posts pictures & writes narratives of his story on Twitter.... he is an up and coming producer or something; and anyway people wanted to help him so he put up a wish list on Amazon & people sent him stuff to take care of the cats; he also made a gofund me page & got funded there. Perhaps you could do something similar on social media, people love to help people that are helping animals. Just a thought. Thank you for taking care of the cats!
The money you get from go fund me is not tax free. Check in to it if you do not believe me. First off GFM takes a percentage of every donation and the total donation. And I am not sure if they send a 1099 for the total of the money they send to you or just expect you to turn it in. But I do know you are required to pay taxes on the money.
Anyone who does not believe me can either go read on their website or send an email to support asking specific questions. I don't remember why but thought about setting up an account for something once and was asking specific questions. We went back and forth a couple of times and the info I found out really surprised me. People think the GFM is just tax free you get it all money and you can with draw it kind of like PP. That is not how it works.
But you are right about one thing....
People will help animals before they will help other people. I remember people crying about cats and dogs being left out in the cold a few weeks ago. These same idiots have no compassion for PEOPLE who are homeless and sleeping out in the cold.
I don't think GoFundMe is tax free... I know for a fact that GFM also takes 10% of all donations right off the top -- at least that is what it was a couple years ago. GoFundMe is definitely not the best way to go, just one venue that this guy set up & yet another way one person could set up a way to get funded.
Helping animals & helping people aren't mutually exclusive... one can do both at the same time.
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I follow this guy on Twitter that had a feral cat come & gave birth to 4 kittens under his bed... he left his back door open... and then decided to keep them all after not have anyone claim the mother. He posts pictures & writes narratives of his story on Twitter.... he is an up and coming producer or something; and anyway people wanted to help him so he put up a wish list on Amazon & people sent him stuff to take care of the cats; he also made a gofund me page & got funded there. Perhaps you could do something similar on social media, people love to help people that are helping animals. Just a thought. Thank you for taking care of the cats!
The money you get from go fund me is not tax free. Check in to it if you do not believe me. First off GFM takes a percentage of every donation and the total donation. And I am not sure if they send a 1099 for the total of the money they send to you or just expect you to turn it in. But I do know you are required to pay taxes on the money.
Anyone who does not believe me can either go read on their website or send an email to support asking specific questions. I don't remember why but thought about setting up an account for something once and was asking specific questions. We went back and forth a couple of times and the info I found out really surprised me. People think the GFM is just tax free you get it all money and you can with draw it kind of like PP. That is not how it works.
But you are right about one thing....
People will help animals before they will help other people. I remember people crying about cats and dogs being left out in the cold a few weeks ago. These same idiots have no compassion for PEOPLE who are homeless and sleeping out in the cold.
I don't think GoFundMe is tax free... I know for a fact that GFM also takes 10% of all donations right off the top -- at least that is what it was a couple years ago. GoFundMe is definitely not the best way to go, just one venue that this guy set up & yet another way one person could set up a way to get funded.
Helping animals & helping people aren't mutually exclusive... one can do both at the same time.
A lot of people do not know that though. Not only do they take 10% but they also take like 3 cents out of every donation besides the 10%.
You would be surprised at how many people do not know they have to pay taxes on the money they get deposited in their GFM account.
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We took in a feral kitten and she's been a good cat. Kudos to those of you who try to help them. :in-love:
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I have a physco neighbor that at one time had over 40 cats (I do not live in the country).
You had us all fooled with your username ;)
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I have a physco neighbor that at one time had over 40 cats (I do not live in the country).
You had us all fooled with your username ;)
lol. No, I actually do not live in the country. I would like to. I would love to be able to live on about 100 acres and have plenty of money to have a variety of critters. :D