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Have you ever turned to a fortune teller for something?
Do you believe in them?
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no I think they are all fakes and you shouldn't waste money on them
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I suppose their are some practicers that truelly are aware of what they are doing.
But I would not pay anyone. When I was pregnant with my second child, it was way to early for the doctors to tell the sex so I turned to a reader. Mystic Forest is the actual store I went to. He broke out what looked like a necklace with a huge beautiful stone on the end. I asked the necklace, as that was what I was suppost to do. And low and behold it was wrong. Well I went back to Mystic Forest after I had my baby girl and I told them that their reading on me was wrong, he told me its not 100% accurate!
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:) No, I do not believe in fortune tellers...you have to make your fortune!
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No...
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depending some of them are fakes as for myself i can foretell the future myself of the abilities i posses so again depending if that person has practice divination and scrying for long
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I wish they were real , so i could get lottery readings from them lol
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Yes, i believe people can have fLaSheS of the future ! , i have before :
it's weird!
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I believe there are people out there that are psychic but I don't think they are the ones who advertise it in a window with a crystal ball. I look at them as more or less for entertainment. People who have a real gift probably wouldn't charge to do it.
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I think it is possible. However, I do not feel that you will find a real one in the yellow pages.
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The future would have to be determined for any legitimate fortune teller/psychic to exist. If you believe there are legitimate psychics out there, you believe the future is determined...in which case, it makes no difference if you know the future or not, as you can do nothing to change it.
depending some of them are fakes as for myself i can foretell the future myself of the abilities i posses so again depending if that person has practice divination and scrying for long
That's not the same thing at all. You cannot tell your future; you can make educated guesses based on your past experiences, you can deduce what is going to happen to you tomorrow assuming things go as normal...but you can't predict the future.
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LOL...they are fakes. It is sad that some use them for actual advice instead of entertainment.
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The future would have to be determined for any legitimate fortune teller/psychic to exist. If you believe there are legitimate psychics out there, you believe the future is determined...in which case, it makes no difference if you know the future or not, as you can do nothing to change it.
Not really. You could just be very, very good at predicting the future.
Set in stone would only be required for absolute %100 accuracy.
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I believe some of them can..and some of them are just fakes claiming that they are fortune tellers...
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The future would have to be determined for any legitimate fortune teller/psychic to exist. If you believe there are legitimate psychics out there, you believe the future is determined...in which case, it makes no difference if you know the future or not, as you can do nothing to change it.
Not really. You could just be very, very good at predicting the future.
Set in stone would only be required for absolute %100 accuracy.
But that is what a psychic or fortune teller claims to be, 100% accurate. What is the point in calling yourself a psychic if you can be wrong about the future? You're just a normal person if you can be wrong about your predictions. Every person can make predictions about what will happen to them tomorrow.
But let's get to the point: Psychics don't exist. And if they did, their abilities would be useless. In order for someone to be considered a psychic, their predictions have to be 100% true, all the time. If that is the case, then any future event they predict cannot be changed; if the event they predict can be changed, that means their prediction has room for being incorrect, and you can't be psychic if your predictions have room for error (you're just an average person making guesses at that point). So knowing the future would be of no value to anyone. You can't change it, you can't avoid it, you can't do anything about it. It is already determined and nothing you say or do can change that.
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Interesting topic.
here is my humble opinion
i believe there are some abilities (if i may call them that) that allow for people to see/visualize/know some things about the future, whether it be 1 minute or 1 day, because most of us have probably had some deja vu and premonitions that we can't explain (i know i have) so it only makes sense that there are so many people know it is a simple matter of permutations and mathematics. If we take 6-7 billion people, there will be a slim margin in almost every category that we can think of where a few will simply have a natural skill set for. Ie, nobel prize winners, michael jordan, etc etc.
SO after saying all that, my point is that there will be a select few that are really well versed at focusing on certain qualities that allow them to "see" a little bit more than the rest of us. How far that goes, i have no idea, but belief and focus are powerful traits and if cultivated would probably blow most of our socks off.
Notwithstanding, of course there are scammers and people that are delusional.
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Nope, because if they are telling things that really will happen, chances are they harbor demon spirits. We are not to mess with black magic, no thanks, that is a portal, I don't want nothing to do with.
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Interesting topic.
here is my humble opinion
i believe there are some abilities (if i may call them that) that allow for people to see/visualize/know some things about the future, whether it be 1 minute or 1 day, because most of us have probably had some deja vu and premonitions that we can't explain (i know i have) so it only makes sense that there are so many people know it is a simple matter of permutations and mathematics. If we take 6-7 billion people, there will be a slim margin in almost every category that we can think of where a few will simply have a natural skill set for. Ie, nobel prize winners, michael jordan, etc etc.
SO after saying all that, my point is that there will be a select few that are really well versed at focusing on certain qualities that allow them to "see" a little bit more than the rest of us. How far that goes, i have no idea, but belief and focus are powerful traits and if cultivated would probably blow most of our socks off.
Notwithstanding, of course there are scammers and people that are delusional.
That's still not a fortune teller or psychic. That's someone who can make educated guesses about what will happen based on your qualities or way of life. They can be wrong, and they most likely will be if they were to make a prediction. They're doing the same thing every other person of average intelligence can do in this world...making guesses about what will happen to them.
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Nope, because if they are telling things that really will happen, chances are they harbor demon spirits. We are not to mess with black magic, no thanks, that is a portal, I don't want nothing to do with.
I'm sorry, what? Are you joking or really this deluded?
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one in a houndred might be telling the truth but personally i think they are all fonies and they are a load of :bs:
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The future would have to be determined for any legitimate fortune teller/psychic to exist. If you believe there are legitimate psychics out there, you believe the future is determined...in which case, it makes no difference if you know the future or not, as you can do nothing to change it.
Not really. You could just be very, very good at predicting the future.
Set in stone would only be required for absolute %100 accuracy.
But that is what a psychic or fortune teller claims to be, 100% accurate. What is the point in calling yourself a psychic if you can be wrong about the future? You're just a normal person if you can be wrong about your predictions. Every person can make predictions about what will happen to them tomorrow.
But let's get to the point: Psychics don't exist. And if they did, their abilities would be useless. In order for someone to be considered a psychic, their predictions have to be 100% true, all the time. If that is the case, then any future event they predict cannot be changed; if the event they predict can be changed, that means their prediction has room for being incorrect, and you can't be psychic if your predictions have room for error (you're just an average person making guesses at that point). So knowing the future would be of no value to anyone. You can't change it, you can't avoid it, you can't do anything about it. It is already determined and nothing you say or do can change that.
That isn't true, everything is predetermined, anything that is going to happen a psychic can see. You have control over what you do but a psychic will know and probably before you. You cannot change the future, your hindsight is 20/20 so by seeing the future you can change the present to change the future and this is just hindsight from the future. You could change your future if you knew about it but those that don't believe will never get that rare opportunity. Remember everything is predetermined because you cannot change the way your mind works and what your mind will do and that is why God knows everything you will do before you do it and everything you will think before you think it because you are his design and that's it. Spritual people can receive this kind of knowledge as a gift. Psychics do exist and the mind being so closed is not a good thing.
Let's recap what your positions are:
First position: Everything is predetermined -- Fine position if that's what you think
Second position: You cannot change the future -- Fine position and fits in well with the first position
Third position: You can change your future if you know what the future holds -- Doesn't fit
Do you not see the obvious contradiction there? If everything is predetermined, it is going to happen regardless of what you say or do; this is the definition of predetermined. If you have the ability to change future events, then the future is no longer considered predetermined; this goes directly against the definition of predetermined. You can't have it both ways.
Now let's apply this to a psychic (or we can apply it to any omniscient [all knowing] being, but let's stay on topic). You say the future is predetermined, and you say a psychic knows 100% what is going to happen in the future. A psychic cannot be wrong about their predictions -- this is simply the definition of psychic. What a psychic predicts MUST come true on all levels 100% of the time, or else they do not fit into the definition of a psychic.
If a psychic knows something, what use is it to them or anyone else? If what they know, by definition, MUST come true then you can't do anything about it. Nothing you say or do can change the future that they know -- if one has the ability to change the future they predict, then they're no longer a psychic.
I don't really care to get into the "omniscience/free will" debate in this thread. It's not the subject of the thread.
As for having a closed mind, I am very open minded. As you can clearly see, I've put thought into the logic behind a psychic or any omniscient being. I don't say "psychics don't exist" on a whim. It is my conclusion based on my own thoughts, based on my experiences in reality, based on my rationale, based on the complete lack of any credible evidence that psychics exist, and so on. If you have credible evidence proving otherwise, I'd love to see it. Hell, let's make some: Can you tell me one specific thing that is going to happen to me tomorrow, Sunday October 11, 2009? I don't mean "you'll wake up," I mean something that is somewhat rare and can only be predicted by someone with "a gift." Could you do that for me?
There's such a thing has having too open of a mind as well. Some people's minds are so open that their brain falls out...
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But that is what a psychic or fortune teller claims to be, 100% accurate.
No they don't. No one claims this.
Literally, no one.
Find me one.
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But that is what a psychic or fortune teller claims to be, 100% accurate.
No they don't. No one claims this.
Literally, no one.
Find me one.
Then who the hell cares if somebody says "I'm a psychic/fortune teller?" If they're doing nothing but making educated guesses, why is that "a gift" and why does it matter? Everybody can make educated guesses about what will happen in the future. If their claims aren't full proof, who cares what their view of the future is? They're just an average person's deductions at that point.
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No, anybody can train to be a fortune teller. You can even do it online. :sad1:
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no not really i don't think all of that is true no one knows what life holds for anyone
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no i do not i think that there a whole bunch of :bs: and trying to get money the futer tellers
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Psychics and fortune tellers are for entertainment purposes ONLY! If you think you are a psychic or fortune teller you are a loon and full of :bs: !
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I went to 1 along time ago and was amazed by what he told me. He was 100% correct. I used a couple of different ones after him and everything they said was bull. As a whole, no I don't believe them but they've got to make a living too. They tell you what they think you want to hear. If anybody can prove me wrong on this one, I'd be happy to hear from you.
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while there are a lot of people out there ready to rip you off ... like those who call themselves fortune tellers... there are those with elevated sensitivities who can experience more than the rest of us. we all have the ability, we just don't know how to tap into it. the non-believers will never even entertain this idea.
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Have you ever turned to a fortune teller for something?
Do you believe in them?
i do my mom went to see one and everything he said came true it freaked me out though
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Sorry you feel that way and btw your wrong. I know a lot about psychiatry and don't think you do so I will let you in on something, People who have emotional issues can sometimes have psychic abilities and be able to know future events. It's something called being very sensitive - My take humans only use 10% of their brains and not everyone does and most use less.
You don't think Psychics have the ability to tap into parts of their brain so called "normal" people can't?
Think about aliens - more advanced, more gifted - I WONDER WHY!!!!!!!!!!
Right on point. A certain part of your brain (I wish I could recall which part!) becomes more developed than "more stable" or non-traumatized persons. This makes you more receptive to situations and their possible outcomes, getting a sort of "sense" for what might come to pass.
Now, of course there are always people out there looking to take advantage, but they're just a-holes. Some people genuinely have a knack for being able to at least have a good idea of what can/will happen.
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No
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No, I don't either
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Psychics and fortune tellers are for entertainment purposes ONLY! If you think you are a psychic or fortune teller you are a loon and full of :bs: !
Sorry you feel that way and btw your wrong. I know a lot about psychiatry and don't think you do so I will let you in on something, People who have emotional issues can sometimes have psychic abilities and be able to know future events. It's something called being very sensitive - My take humans only use 10% of their brains and not everyone does and most use less.
You don't think Psychics have the ability to tap into parts of their brain so called "normal" people can't?
Think about aliens - more advanced, more gifted - I WONDER WHY!!!!!!!!!!
You can't say "you're wrong I know a lot about this subject" and then go on to prove absolutely nothing about your stance. PROVE IT. Prove it. Prove it. Will you prove it?
Do you know how many studies have been done on the subject of psychics, clairvoyance, etc.? Do you know how many of those have yielded any conclusive, positive evidence? None of them. So please, share with us your proof (I already asked for it once, this is the second time).
If you can't prove that you have some extra ability to see into the future more than the average person, then please stop telling people they're wrong when they call you deluded or loony. The burden of proof is on those who claim to have this extrasensory ability. If they can't, then they are justifiably called deluded.
The "only use 10% of the brain" is a myth that was debunked quite some time ago by neurologists. The idea that we only use 10% of our brain is laughable at best. Kind of amazed that people still throw that figure around like it has merit. We may be only using 10% of our brain when we're at rest or not doing anything requiring more use, but the majority of the time, our brain is being heavily used. It's also true that not every part of the brain is in constant use, but neurologists and the evidence at hand shows throughout the average day 100% of the brain is used for various tasks.
Another clarification is that only 10% of the cells in our brain are neurons. The rest are known as glial cells and support neurons. We know A LOT about neurons and how they work, but the functions of glial cells are largely unknown. You could say we only know about 10% of how our brain works, but it's plainly false to say we only use 10% of our brain. Simple medical tests prove that completely false.
So no, I don't believe some people have this crazy, extrasensory ability to tap into other parts of the brain to see into the future. The average person uses their entire brain throughout the average day...why would you be any different? And if you are, please prove it.
Please don't reference aliens as proof of your claim. Do you think about your posts before you write them? You're using something that nobody even knows exists (much less knows a single thing about) as evidence to support your psychic abilities. Do you not see an obvious problem with that? Use your psychic abilities to see my replies so that you don't make nonsensical statements in your posts -.-
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Sorry you feel that way and btw your wrong. I know a lot about psychiatry and don't think you do so I will let you in on something, People who have emotional issues can sometimes have psychic abilities and be able to know future events. It's something called being very sensitive - My take humans only use 10% of their brains and not everyone does and most use less.
You don't think Psychics have the ability to tap into parts of their brain so called "normal" people can't?
Think about aliens - more advanced, more gifted - I WONDER WHY!!!!!!!!!!
I get the feeling you know very little about anything. From what I know psychiatry means "the practice or science of diagnosing and treating mental disorders." I wont argue that you might know something about that, you sound like you visit one at least once a week. But I don't see anything that corresponds with psychics! People with emotional issues might think they are psychic, because they have some sort of in-balance going.
Besides I'm sure someone that was psychic would not be living on food stamps and doing surveys online! ::)
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Congratulations on getting defensive because someone has a different viewpoint than you. Way to make it personal and petty, rather than trying to have a mature conversation about something.
I guess I got the wrong impression of this community at first.
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no, i think that they are silly and i can not believe that some people actually pay money for these things :BangHead:
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You know I believe there are some special people out there that just know things. But I don't know honestly what to think about that stuff. I'm a christain so when it comes to stuff like that I just leave it alone.
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Congratulations on getting defensive because someone has a different viewpoint than you. Way to make it personal and petty, rather than trying to have a mature conversation about something.
I guess I got the wrong impression of this community at first.
Different viewpoints are one thing but trying to back-up those outlandish viewpoints with complete bs that makes no sense at all and to bring up silly comments with aliens it is really hard to have a mature conversation. :BangHead:
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I'm not sure if I believe in the traditional "fortune teller", but I do think some people can have physic magnetism. And, quite honestly, if people want to believe and it makes them happy, I say more power to them. As long as they are careful try not to get taken advantage of, then I don't see the harm in believing. :bunny:
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If they are so physic why haven't all of them hit the lottery?
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I think it is entirely possible for a person to have psychic abilities, but I fell that most, if not all, of the ones who advertise being psychic are frauds. My friends and I have gone to "psychics" in the past, just out of curiosity or for fun. Needless to say, none of us did anything differently in our lives because of warnings or suggestions by any of the psychics. One actually suggested that one of my friends would die, gave us the date and everything. It turned out to be nothing, but that "psychic" should be ashamed of herself. I think she was trying to scare all of us into coming back for more readings. Her business mysteriously disappeared one night....she should have seen that coming. I have always thought that the truly gifted wait in silence, helping those who truly need help, while remaining anonymous. I have to admit that the ones who claim to have the abilities are smart....they make a lot of money from people who believe in them.
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If they are so physic why haven't all of them hit the lottery?
is this the single determining factor?
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If they are so physic why haven't all of them hit the lottery?
is this the single determining factor?
No, but that by no means makes it an illegitimate question.
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I'm a skeptic. I will believe it when I see and so far I haven't seen anything but fakes trying to gain attention and money.
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i dont deal with phycics or any one else that "thinks" they can read minds or tell fortunes. it is of evil spirits and i dont get involved with that crap.
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NO!its a bunch of mubo jumbo 2 make money :angry7:
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kinda..never had mine read but im pretty sure they are true
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hmmm . . . i think it would be really cool if people had special abilities/gifts like that but i am on the fence with what to believe when it comes to that. so :dontknow:
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no, not at all. just a scam
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Have you ever turned to a fortune teller for something?
Do you believe in them?
Hek no!!!
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of course not!
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well in the case of the phone-in ones and the whole "give us your number and we'll tell you your future" thing no. But I wouldn't be surprised if there were someone in this world who really can but i don't know for sure either way
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i think there may be some people who are very psychic. like a sixth sense. theres phonies out there who make money off there supposed sixth sense as well. native americans r probably the most psychic. they feel everything. its the thing nowadays to say ur psychic so b careful dont trust em all.
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No, most are out to make just the money. You can find everything you want to know about yourself on the computer. So a search on wht was happening on the day and year you were born you will be amazed. They tell you the same exact thing. :thumbsup:
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I do believe.. not on all of them because there is a lot that are just scammers but there is a few tt r real.
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don't know, never met one, would like to just once tho. you never know. there are some pretty wierd things out there that cannot be explained. if not, how fun would it be, just to do it....
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Man proposes and God disposes! I don't believe any street fortune tellers but I really believe someone in this world has supernatural ability and other people have better luck
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no i dont coz the last time some one gave me my fortune they said something was going to happen but didnt. the thing i wanted the most i never got back. they said if i give up on it i will get it..well where is he?? lol for real. oh yeah he's married now. thanks alot liar!!
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No, they are just phonies out to make a quick buck.