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ever wonder what would happen if a poor person filled all the senate seats? poor people know how to budget, how to save money when they can, and would not dip into the money that belongs to the countrys benefits. at least not like what the senators in those seats are doing now. i would love to take a nice long spa weekend, wouldnt you?
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What a great idea. That would certainly give our leaders a new perspective.
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Good idea. They probably would be the best people to control spending of tax payers dollars. Also the job they do could be done at a much lower pay scale.
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Don't most start off poor & then become rich while they're in office..... we can watch this in real-time with AOC -- although she's a congresswoman not a senator... but she started as a bartender, no insurance, & a credit score of 400 something. So all the wealth she now gains are from her current congressional position.
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Great idea! Filling the seat with someone who better represents the masses and not the small percentage that hold the nations wealth would be brilliant. People that do not have side interests or self serving platforms paid for by corporations or lobbying groups. Shorter, non-renewable terms might be nice as well so that we could keep the newly elected from becoming corrupted by lobbyists. Sadly these qualified people always seem to be working for a living or have families to attend to. I am not sure how politicians get vetted out prior to running for office but there must be a better, more comprehensive way of dismissing crooks, perverts and liars before they get into office? I would not make it into office and would not want my family exposed to the trauma that goes with it.
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ever wonder what would happen if a poor person filled all the senate seats? poor people know how to budget, how to save money when they can, and would not dip into the money that belongs to the countrys benefits. at least not like what the senators in those seats are doing now. i would love to take a nice long spa weekend, wouldnt you?
Ever heard of the lottery curse? A poor person who is perhaps good with money management, due to necessity, now has millions of dollars, and becomes very poor with money management, eventually going broke/back to poor. Happens more often then you'd think. The necessity of budgeting tightly goes away, so then their money management skills do as well. This is also seen with a lot of professional athletes (not all, but some).
And a personal budget is FAR different than the budgets and spending at a state or national level!
Sounds like a good idea at first glance, but is really not at all.
A more diverse congress / senate, comprised of those from different brackets of income, would be good though, as it would give insight from a variety of monetary backgrounds. Diversity is good. (This would include SOME, but not ALL being 'poor', as you suggested).
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ever wonder what would happen if a poor person filled all the senate seats? poor people know how to budget, how to save money when they can, and would not dip into the money that belongs to the countrys benefits. at least not like what the senators in those seats are doing now. i would love to take a nice long spa weekend, wouldnt you?
No actually most of them do not. I have seen "poor people" paying for their food with a food stamp card while carrying the latest model of an iPhone.
They have their cart filled with steaks and name brand cokes. Then cry when the chow doesn't last past the first week.
They can't pay the rent but they make sure their cable bill is paid. And they have internet.
And I guarantee if they could use somebody else's money they would. Oh wait, they already do. Welfare is from my check.
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Don't most start off poor & then become rich while they're in office..... we can watch this in real-time with AOC -- although she's a congresswoman not a senator... but she started as a bartender, no insurance, & a credit score of 400 something. So all the wealth she now gains are from her current congressional position.
Some do. Some don't. Fact is the people would not vote for a poor person. If you can't manage your money and pay your own rent how are you going to help run the country?
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Great idea! Filling the seat with someone who better represents the masses and not the small percentage that hold the nations wealth would be brilliant. People that do not have side interests or self serving platforms paid for by corporations or lobbying groups. Shorter, non-renewable terms might be nice as well so that we could keep the newly elected from becoming corrupted by lobbyists. Sadly these qualified people always seem to be working for a living or have families to attend to. I am not sure how politicians get vetted out prior to running for office but there must be a better, more comprehensive way of dismissing crooks, perverts and liars before they get into office? I would not make it into office and would not want my family exposed to the trauma that goes with it.
It doesn't matter who is in there. A "poor person" would be worse because they would be more likely to take money. They need it. Personally I would not vote for someone who was poor. If you can't make it and have to live off the government I certainly would not vote for them to run the county, state, or country.
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all of these replies are correct. i do acknowledge that a dishonest person whether poor or rich could take money that doesnt belong to them,you would think tho that the people in the seats now,with their own money, should know better than to take benefits out of the till for their own selfish use.
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I agree some poor people may be qualified to be in congress, but what about a certain waitress who was voted in on the democratic side No names here but (AOC) she is such a trouble make all ready, But she didn't even have an apartment to move into when she first got to Washington, Then boom she has a $70,000.00 dollar van to ride around in with a driver. I haven't seen anything our of her that is for the good of the country. Goes to show money goes to their head real fast.
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everybody in this world isnt honest. and it will come back and bite them, all i know is those folks in congress have no business taking the money you and i "paid in" to take their pleasure trips. use their own money. and its not just the congressmen. its also other areas of the govmt. ssa, irs. all of these should be reevaluated and tougher laws against those who are unfortunately for us left in charge of it
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I agree some poor people may be qualified to be in congress, but what about a certain waitress who was voted in on the democratic side No names here but (AOC) she is such a trouble make all ready, But she didn't even have an apartment to move into when she first got to Washington, Then boom she has a $70,000.00 dollar van to ride around in with a driver. I haven't seen anything our of her that is for the good of the country. Goes to show money goes to their head real fast.
She's being investigated for 2 FEC problems. The first is an FEC complaint about payments made to the congresswoman’s boyfriend Riley Roberts. The second is a complaint filed for misuse of House resources after AOC issued Roberts an official mail.house.gov email, despite her claims that he isn’t working for her office.
The National Legal and Policy Center filed an FEC complaint against Chakrabarti's Justice Democrats for allegedly funneling nearly $1 million between his PAC accounts (Brand New Congress PAC) and his Brand New Congress LLC and Justice Democrats in order to hide where the funds were being spent and dodge FEC reporting requirements.
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Poor or rich: Knowledge is power.
Let qualified people in!
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That would be a much better idea. Personally, to a certain extent, the socioeconomic status of the person is not as important as their knowledge and ability to place the interests of their constituency at the forefront.
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I agree some poor people may be qualified to be in congress, but what about a certain waitress who was voted in on the democratic side No names here but (AOC) she is such a trouble make all ready, But she didn't even have an apartment to move into when she first got to Washington, Then boom she has a $70,000.00 dollar van to ride around in with a driver. I haven't seen anything our of her that is for the good of the country. Goes to show money goes to their head real fast.
She's being investigated for 2 FEC problems. The first is an FEC complaint about payments made to the congresswoman’s boyfriend Riley Roberts. The second is a complaint filed for misuse of House resources after AOC issued Roberts an official mail.house.gov email, despite her claims that he isn’t working for her office.
The National Legal and Policy Center filed an FEC complaint against Chakrabarti's Justice Democrats for allegedly funneling nearly $1 million between his PAC accounts (Brand New Congress PAC) and his Brand New Congress LLC and Justice Democrats in order to hide where the funds were being spent and dodge FEC reporting requirements.
lol. What does 'being investigated mean' ? Absolutely nothing.
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Poor or rich: Knowledge is power.
Let qualified people in!
Nobody is keeping "qualified people" out. Most of the ones in the position meet the qualifications. I assume they all do or they would not be there.
What we need is for people to vote for people who have morals and values. Fact is we live in a country where most people just want a hand out. So they are going to vote for the person who says they will give them stuff for free. The same people who complain about "them" taking "our" money to pay for their stuff are the same people who are drawing government checks. That is money taken from the working man's check. You done nothing to earn it.
We need to eliminate the welfare and hand outs. You either work and earn your money or sponge off your family. I am tired of funding the lazy.
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i agree to a certain extent. but if you take away welfare, then you are hurting the cbildren. they cant help it if their parents cant or wont support them. the point about accusing the govmt is thay should be held accountable just like anybody who goes out and robs banks.
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I have thought a long those lines too. I don't think it would ever work because that person would be honest and no one wants that in government that is for sure.
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these folks do the deed and get away with it for a long while. some say they will pay it back, but really, how can we trust that they will considering they shouldnt take the money to begin with. they already complaining medicaid is short, social security is dwindling away. of course it is. they are the reason why all of this is happening
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i agree to a certain extent. but if you take away welfare, then you are hurting the cbildren. they cant help it if their parents cant or wont support them. the point about accusing the govmt is thay should be held accountable just like anybody who goes out and robs banks.
Won't support them? What makes you think they will spend the welfare money on their kids. FYI - they do not.
The parents need to be punished when they have kids they have no way to support. They know the government will just give them money every month. The more kids you pop out the more money you get.
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these folks do the deed and get away with it for a long while. some say they will pay it back, but really, how can we trust that they will considering they shouldnt take the money to begin with. they already complaining medicaid is short, social security is dwindling away. of course it is. they are the reason why all of this is happening
And the real problem is people like me, when I am old enough to draw there will be nothing there. The younger generation is not working. They are all drawing government checks. So when the generation that is working now passes or all are ready to retire there is nothing there. They money should have went in to your own personal account that nobody can tough but you. You draw what you pay in. If you don't pay in then you are out of luck. And as for the now, you can either work, your family can support and take care of you, or you can sit at home and starve. If there is a true disability then there are exceptions. But mental crap like I get sad sometimes or I don't like people so I get a check because if I go to work I have to see people and I have anxiety - yeah that crap don't cut it.
I am beyond tired of funding the lazy!
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Unfortunately, only rich people get to make the rules...
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i understand what everybody is saying. everybody also is right in their own opinion. but what it boils down to, is that no matter how we put it, they can get away with anything they want to do because they are closer to the money than we are and if we dont have this money when we retire, why should they care? they can spend our money now, and save theirs for their retirement. its a no win situation except for the thieves in office.
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Unfortunately, only rich people get to make the rules...
Look at it from a local stand point. Of course it depends on where you live. If you live in a smaller town look at your elected officials. We have a couple who before they got in to local government they were not rich at all. I can think of 2 right off who are now making over $100,000 a year and they are out for themselves, not the people, and how THEY can get more money.
I would never think that being poor made you qualified to hold a high up office. And most times people would lean more toward if you are poor then you cannot manage your finances so why would I trust you to manage the country.
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ever wonder what would happen if a poor person filled all the senate seats? poor people know how to budget, how to save money when they can, and would not dip into the money that belongs to the countrys benefits. at least not like what the senators in those seats are doing now. i would love to take a nice long spa weekend, wouldnt you?
Um, no. A poor person could never hope to be elected and no one would trust them not to dip into the coffers themselves.
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Great idea, I am sure the budget would finally get balanced as everyday people have to live that way on a daily bases!
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Great idea, I am sure the budget would finally get balanced as everyday people have to live that way on a daily bases!
They didn't say every day people. The question said "poor people". Poor people tend to be living off the government in some form anyway. So no, I would not vote for somebody that can't get a job that pays enough for them to not be poor. Or someone who cannot manage their money to the point that they are not poor.
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but if you didnt know it, these politicians rely on "contributions" to get them where they are. a qualified person, poor or not so poor would be turned down if they didnt have a big old dollar sign by their names. and guess what, they go to the poor person begging for money they dont have to give and they give it because there were promises made. there are some honest poor people who would make a great leader if they were given a chance to prove it
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well it is true that wrong people are usually put in the wrong positions.
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Poor or rich: Knowledge is power.
Let qualified people in!
Agreed.
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Sounds good to me. You are so right, let qualified people in.
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Good Idea. It might bring some structure to our government 8)