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Who is leaking the PRIVATE conversations Trump has with other countries? There are now 4 calls that have been leaked with other countries. This is a very dangerous situation. What are these leakers thinking? It's crazy. All presidents have private calls between the leaders of other countries. What country will want to talk to any president of our country as long as these Trump haters destroy this option? Where is the loyalty to our COUNTRY? Transparency doesn't include this item.I honestly believe Trump could do better if Congress would work with him in stad of against him in every move. It's sad that some would rather our country go down the tubes because of hate.
If this keeps up, other countries will no longer have any faith in us. Is this what the other side wants? It's infuriating. It seems like whoever is doing this is blind to any other fact except "get Trump." I've heard it was the CIA doing this. I wouldn't put it past some of them. Guess there's more draining of the swamp to do.
I know a lot of people don't like Trump for a number of reasons; mainly because he's not a politician, isn't a smooth talker like career politicians are trained, but he's been one of the most transparent. He also doesn't bow down to lobbyists and that's another reason to hate. He's accomplishing things that should have been done years ago, yet you don't hear one good thing about him from most media (including newspapers). Hate is all they do.
Okay. Off my soapbox for now (I hope).
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He could walk on water and the haters would say it's because he can't swim. They will NEVER say anything positive about him no matter what he does. What a pity.
He is MY president and I totally support him. :in-love: He's the most godly president we've ever had. He may not be a Christian. :dontknow: Jury is still out on that one, but he really appreciates prayer and he really loves our country.
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He could walk on water and the haters would say it's because he can't swim. They will NEVER say anything positive about him no matter what he does. What a pity.
He is MY president and I totally support him. :in-love: He's the most godly president we've ever had. He may not be a Christian. :dontknow: Jury is still out on that one, but he really appreciates prayer and he really loves our country.
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Godly means divine.Christian means follower of Jesus.
Huh?????Bible says Satan is a god.Is Satan divine?
2nd Corinth 4:4 New Living Translation
Satan, who is the god of this world, has blinded the minds of those who don’t believe. They are unable to see the glorious light of the Good News. They don’t understand this message about the glory of Christ, who is the exact likeness of God
Let me also remind you Satan offered Jesus all the kingdoms of the world for an act of worship.Jesus never disputed it.
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Lock the Godless moron up! Smiling ear from ear.
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Lock the Godless moron up! Smiling ear from ear.
Could you give one reason for your point of view? Just one; one real viewpoint that is not conjecture or opinion.
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Let me rephrase for clarification to the person who rebutted my post. Trump is not godly, but he is the most godly president we've ever had.
I did not call him a god and he would not be, but there are plenty of gods in this world. That would pertain to anyone who someone worships more than God.
Satan is the god of this world.
P.S. If you're going to rebut my posts, use postings that are not so combative and nonsensical. I would rather not fight with people. However, I am happy to give my own point of view for those who care to see it. If not, they are perfectly free to disregard it out of hand.
I enjoy giving my opinions on this forum and I enjoy reading people's posts; even if I disagree with them.
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And I will not respond to condescending nonsense. Simple.
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Let me rephrase for clarification to the person who rebutted my post. Trump is not godly, but he is the most godly president we've ever had.
I did not call him a god and he would not be, but there are plenty of gods in this world. That would pertain to anyone who someone worships more than God.
Satan is the god of this world.
P.S. If you're going to rebut my posts, use postings that are not so combative and nonsensical. I would rather not fight with people. However, I am happy to give my own point of view for those who care to see it. If not, they are perfectly free to disregard it out of hand.
I enjoy giving my opinions on this forum and I enjoy reading people's posts; even if I disagree with them.
Then i guess you DONT support bible.I just post what it reads.Its all referenced.Here is another one.
Man has dominated himself to his own injury.Eccl 8:9
Here is another.
To earthling man his way does not belong.He is walking even to direct his own step.Correct me o God Jer 10:23
Combative for supporting bible scriptures?
Here is another.....Friendship with the world is enmity with God.James 4:4
Convinced yet?
You are entitled to your nationalism and not supporting the bible.
I will let the TRUE God judge Trump and all of us.I didnt give you MY opinion.I just showed you bible truths.
When JFK was elected he was first catholic president.I was a catholic at the time and quite young and didnt know bible truths.But i am sure back then when the catholic religeon had more power then many would have said about JFK what you are saying about Trump.Of course we know with all the sex scandals the catholic religeon today has taken a big hit.
I dont know Trump personally and i am not in position to judge him.I just reacted to what godly meant and supported it with bible.You are the combative one for not understanding my post.
You might also consider how Jehovah feels about giving worship to other so-called gods.
Exodus 20:2-4 Living Bible (TLB)
2 “I am Jehovah your God who liberated you from your slavery in Egypt.
3 “You may worship no other god than me.
4 “You shall not make yourselves any idols: no images of animals, birds, or fish.
So what god does Trump worship?Or you?Again there it is in black and white.
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Any sensible person can see he is a bad person and no good for America. If a person can not see this on their own it is because they choose to agree with him and what he does.
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Any sensible person can see he is a bad person and no good for America. If a person can not see this on their own it is because they choose to agree with him and what he does.
I'm fairly sensible. Can you tell me precisely what he's done to make you feel this way? I cannot see that he is a bad person and no good for America.
I still don't understand why no one will back up their hatred of Trump with any evidence at all of wrongdoing. Not one person on this forum has ever produced a shred of evidence to come to that conclusion. If he's that bad, it should be easy to share his incompetency or ineptness with those of us who support our president and appreciate how much good he's done for the country so far.
I believe that a person should have something concrete to share if they wish to give their opinion and how they came it. But I guess that's too much trouble. Or perhaps no one reads my posts that ask for rebuttal or commentary. That's pretty disappointing. :crybaby2:
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Any sensible person can see he is a bad person and no good for America. If a person can not see this on their own it is because they choose to agree with him and what he does.
I'm fairly sensible. Can you tell me precisely what he's done to make you feel this way? I cannot see that he is a bad person and no good for America.
I still don't understand why no one will back up their hatred of Trump with any evidence at all of wrongdoing. Not one person on this forum has ever produced a shred of evidence to come to that conclusion. If he's that bad, it should be easy to share his incompetency or ineptness with those of us who support our president and appreciate how much good he's done for the country so far.
I believe that a person should have something concrete to share if they wish to give their opinion and how they came it. But I guess that's too much trouble. Or perhaps no one reads my posts that ask for rebuttal or commentary. That's pretty disappointing. :crybaby2:
At first i wasnt sure i wanted to respond to this post cos we always get accused of attacking you.That is the furthest thing from the truth,but because of how you defend Trump we wanna let it be known thats how we feel about Hitch being banned this past April.
NO evidence at all for FC decision.No copy and paste posts to warrant that.Just members belly-aching their views on how JWs teach the bible.
You have 1 member that said he himself sent in 47 posts and another who is more of a snake,i wouldnt be surprised if she sent in as many complaints.
These past 6 months have been a victory for hitch.Not only has his supporters put up excellent teachings RE the bible,but we are here and always will be.
It may look like to you we have a beef with Trump,but bible teachings cover the whole satanic political system whoever is in office.We dont need to show those scriptures here.They have been put up enuff times.
So while u look for evidence why some dont support Trump,we feel where is the evidence that warranted hitchs ban?Again we know the answer.FC blew it and there are snakes here sadly.But bible knowledge always wins in the end.
Thanx for allowing us to state our position RE hitch cos it corresponded to your post.
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And I will not respond to condescending nonsense. Simple.
linderlizzie's comment was a QUESTION...not condescending. She/he asked a serious question. This was to be a debate or a discussion. Why can't you answer the question? Is it because you have no answer; that you just follow the crowd?
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Here is another.....Friendship with the world is enmity with God.James 4:4
I dont know Trump personally and i am not in position to judge him.I just reacted to what godly meant and supported it with bible.You are the combative one for not understanding my post.
Two items of curiosity on one of your quotes plus a statement on your statement about Trump:
Do you know what the word "enmity" is? You didn't give the full quote but from your partial quote, it changes the whole meaning of the passage. If we just take what your alf-quote, you're stating: Friendship with the world is an enemy (or hatred) of God. (Partial definition: ".....mean deep-seated dislike or ill will. ENMITY suggests positive hatred which may be open or concealed.") Then all charities that help other countries and are friendly to other countries hate God? That our country should not help other countries?
Your statement of not knowing Trump and not judging him implies the opposite of your last sentence. IMHO, I think you're contradicting yourself.
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Here is another.....Friendship with the world is enmity with God.James 4:4
I dont know Trump personally and i am not in position to judge him.I just reacted to what godly meant and supported it with bible.You are the combative one for not understanding my post.
Two items of curiosity on one of your quotes plus a statement on your statement about Trump:
Do you know what the word "enmity" is? You didn't give the full quote but from your partial quote, it changes the whole meaning of the passage. If we just take what your alf-quote, you're stating: Friendship with the world is an enemy (or hatred) of God. (Partial definition: ".....mean deep-seated dislike or ill will. ENMITY suggests positive hatred which may be open or concealed.") Then all charities that help other countries and are friendly to other countries hate God? That our country should not help other countries?
Your statement of not knowing Trump and not judging him implies the opposite of your last sentence. IMHO, I think you're contradicting yourself.
First off do you support bible?The scripture is there.I think i have put it up.If u need to see it again lemme know.
The bible also says the whole world lies in power of wicked one.He is the ruler of the political and religeous stuff that goes on here.Do you recall he Satan asked Jesus for an act of worship and what he offered him?
God has allowed manmade rule for now otherwise it would be complete chaos until earth is governed by his son from heaven.Let your kingdom come on earth as is in heaven.Do you remember that prayer.Plus for letting it go on so long and Failing NO one can ever accuse God you didnt give us a chance.Absolute disaster for rebellion in Eden starting with Cain murdering Abel.
I dont vote or support politiicans cos i know world peace will NEVER exist from it and Satan.
I didnt wanna make it sound like i was just picking on Trump.ALL of them that dont support Gods kingdom is what the bible means friendship with world is enmity with God.
Also quit making the USA sound so innocent.Did the governement care about loss of life in these dumb wars?Vengeance is mine says God,He is the only one that can determine if war is acceptable...NOT man.You might wanna view this.
Remember what Jesus said RE he who draws the sword.
https://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/wp20151101/is-war-ever-justified/
James 4:4
SUM PIC XRF DEV STU
Verse (Click for Chapter)
New International Version
You adulterous people, don't you know that friendship with the world means enmity against God? Therefore, anyone who chooses to be a friend of the world becomes an enemy of God.
It really is quite funny in 1 sense yet sad.After Jesus proved beyond a doubt RE the truth and he was the son of Jehovah they still tortured and killed him.Its the same here,,,,u can put up bible truth forever and even tho some might get something out of it many still wanna decide for themselves what is good and bad.That why the bible says Satan has blinded many cos he doesnt want many to learn the truth RE God and Jesus.He wants to make them look like the bad guys.
Be wise my son and make my heart rejoice so i can make a reply to him that taunts me. Prov 27:11
God telling us how hes happy when we obey him and reject the tools of the devil.Satan will bring down many...but NOT everybody.
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I am so tried of hearing about everything that is going on in Washington. Just wish both parties would do the job and move on.
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I am so tried of hearing about everything that is going on in Washington. Just wish both parties would do the job and move on.
Wouldn't that be absolutely wonderful? :notworthy:
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And I will not respond to condescending nonsense. Simple.
linderlizzie's comment was a QUESTION...not condescending. She/he asked a serious question. This was to be a debate or a discussion. Why can't you answer the question? Is it because you have no answer; that you just follow the crowd?
Thanks sfreeman8.
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I was on a criminal trial jury once and there was one person who spoke nonsense all the time during deliberations, and he was the sole reason that the jury was hung after several weeks. It was so sad because it made no sense. He spoke jibberish over half the time and believed none of the evidence presented even though it was right in front of him all the time.
I was approached at work by an FBI agent after that trial had been over for a few days to see what I thought about that person. I told him I thought the person was either for the guilty party to try and get him off,or he was just totally unbalanced. The jury is supposed to come to an agreement; guilty or not guilty. No offense, Drutts0643, but you remind me so much of him.
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I was on a criminal trial jury once and there was one person who spoke nonsense all the time during deliberations, and he was the sole reason that the jury was hung after several weeks. It was so sad because it made no sense. He spoke jibberish over half the time and believed none of the evidence presented even though it was right in front of him all the time.
I was approached at work by an FBI agent after that trial had been over for a few days to see what I thought about that person. I told him I thought the person was either for the guilty party to try and get him off,or he was just totally unbalanced. The jury is supposed to come to an agreement; guilty or not guilty. No offense, Drutts0643, but you remind me so much of him.
Prov 14:12 fits you to a T Linder.No offense!!
New Living Translation
There is a path before each person that seems right, but it ends in death.
Math 7:13 New International Version speaking of the road to life.
"Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it.
I think your GPS needs batteries.
Heb 4 :12 New International Version
For the word of God is alive and active. Sharper than any double-edged sword, it penetrates even to dividing soul and spirit, joints and marrow; it judges the thoughts and attitudes of the heart.
That scripture shows you where you stand RE the bible.
Thanx for giving me the chance to witness Gods word.
1 last piece of wisdom for you
Prov 17:28 New International Version
Even fools are thought wise if they keep silent, and discerning if they hold their tongues.
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I thought of a good analogy to describe some of you.
You fill a pot to the top with water,put in on the stove with the gas turned high.The water begins to boil and starts spilling over.You notice it and do ABSOLUTELY nothing about it.
Your flame goes out even tho you could have prevented it and done something about it.
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I totally agree, National Security is compromised every time someone does this. It's shameful.
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I am so tried of hearing about everything that is going on in Washington. Just wish both parties would do the job and move on.
Wouldn't that be absolutely wonderful? :notworthy:
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I vote for this!
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Well i cant relate to your juror cos i dont know him,i dont know you either,but i see how you relate or dont relate to bible scripture.
You spoke of attacking me attacking you.What exactly have you done to me?You arent REALLY attacking me tho.You are attacking Gods word cos i back up what say using the bible.Plus i thought in one of your last posts you were done.Guess not eh?
https://www.jw.org/en/library/magazines/g201211/key-to-understand-bible/
I dont expect you to read the link or if u do to comment on it.Your choice.For the most part i consider it done unless i see otherwise and based on your jury post i wont hold my breath.
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Jesus said the truth will set you free.
I cant tell you how happy i am that with all this political nonsense going on <among other things>i know it.
https://www.jw.org/en/library/magazines/wp20131101/truth-sets-you-free/
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Any sensible person can see he is a bad person and no good for America. If a person can not see this on their own it is because they choose to agree with him and what he does.
Can you back up this argument with actual facts? He is a bad person because . . . . ?
Are you such a good person so that you can judge him according to your goodness?
Is your life worse now than before he became president or do you just not like him as a person?
Can you give a reason for actually wanting to put down a sitting president? That's not really very good for our country if he's doing an adequate job of protecting us and keeping us strong against all odds.
I welcome your rebuttal, should you choose to give one, so I can see why you feel the way you feel.
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Just wish both parties would do the job and move on.
It seems to me that the Republicans are trying to do just that and the Democrats are inescapably trapped in November of 2016.
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Just wish both parties would do the job and move on.
It seems to me that the Republicans are trying to do just that and the Democrats are inescapably trapped in November of 2016.
Is any of this gonna matter when God puts it into governments hearts to destroy Babylon The Great as is spoken of in Revelation?Do you know what that means?
Eccl 8:9 man dominating himself tohis own injury.
Jer 10:23 to earthling man his way does not belong.He is walking to direct hisown step.Correct me o God.
Friendship with the world is enmity with God.
The wholeworld lies in power ofwicked one.
Bible backs up why this world is the way it is.
Again it came from Satan challenging Jehovahs right to rule.And then he challeneged God again in book of Job that if u allow me to hurt him or turn him into poverty he will curse you.
Many proved the devil a liar,Jesus being best example to death.
You can remain neutral,be kind to others,obey laws,pay your taxes still......until Gods kingdom rulz.
God didnt create man to die.He said he formed the earth for it to be inhabited forever.This is our home.
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Any sensible person can see he is a bad person and no good for America. If a person can not see this on their own it is because they choose to agree with him and what he does.
Can you back up this argument with actual facts? He is a bad person because . . . . ?
Are you such a good person so that you can judge him according to your goodness?
Is your life worse now than before he became president or do you just not like him as a person?
Can you give a reason for actually wanting to put down a sitting president? That's not really very good for our country if he's doing an adequate job of protecting us and keeping us strong against all odds.
I welcome your rebuttal, should you choose to give one, so I can see why you feel the way you feel.
I find it's the same with most folks that dislike Trump. No reason given, he's just somehow the worst president who ever gave us record low unemployment, steady economy, lower taxes, safer borders & ended a half century war in Korea. *shrug*
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Well i cant relate to your juror cos i dont know him,i dont know you either,but i see how you relate or dont relate to bible scripture.
You spoke of attacking me attacking you.What exactly have you done to me?You arent REALLY attacking me tho.You are attacking Gods word cos i back up what say using the bible.Plus i thought in one of your last posts you were done.Guess not eh?
https://www.jw.org/en/library/magazines/g201211/key-to-understand-bible/
I dont expect you to read the link or if u do to comment on it.Your choice.For the most part i consider it done unless i see otherwise and based on your jury post i wont hold my breath.
How many of these categories do you think hitch and the Jehovah Witnesses fall into? ???
10 Signs You’re Probably In A Cult
1. The leader is the ultimate authority
If you’re not allowed to criticize your leader, even if the criticism is true, you’re probably in a cult.
Cults begin with a charismatic leader who claims some supreme knowledge. They may call themselves a prophet, messiah, messenger, or an enlightened teacher. They can also be CEOs, military officials, politicians, and self-help gurus.
Cult leaders convince members to forfeit their critical thinking ability in return for a sense of belonging, authority, and purpose. To members, it doesn’t matter what the evidence or logic may suggest, the leader is always right, and their misdeeds are always justified. Criticism of the leader is forbidden.
2. The group suppresses skepticism
If you’re only allowed to study your organization through approved sources, you’re probably in a cult.
Cults view critical thinking as an infectious disease and every effort is made to suppress it. Doubting members are encouraged to isolate themselves from outside influences and focus solely on the doctrine of the cult.
Criticism is forbidden. People who contradict the group are viewed as persecutors and are often given labels like “anti,” “apostate,” or “suppressive person.” Members are discouraged from consuming any material that is critical of the group.
3. The group delegitimizes former members
If you can’t think of a legitimate reason for leaving your group, you’re probably in a cult.
Because the cult considers itself the ultimate authority on truth, it can’t imagine anybody leaving it with their integrity intact. Thus, it has to perpetuate a false narrative that former members were deceived, proud, immoral, or lazy.
If former members speak out, they are dismissed as bitter, angry, dishonest or evil. Cults often impose some kind of shunning to shame former members and prevent them from infecting other members with the truth.
4. The group is paranoid about the outside world
If your group insists the end of the world is near, you’re probably in a cult.
Cults position themselves as the sole refuge from an evil outside world that is intent on their destruction. Cults thrive on conspiracy theories, catastrophic thinking, and persecution complexes.
In an effort to draw in more paying members, cults are often very aggressive in their recruitment efforts which are usually justified as “saving” people from the evil world. Those who reject the cult’s message are unelect, prideful, evil, or stupid.
5. The group relies on shame cycles
If you need your group in order to feel worthy, loved, or sufficient, you’re probably in a cult.
Cult leaders trap members in shame cycles by imposing abnormally strict codes of conduct (usually prescriptions about diet, appearance, sex, relationships, media), guilting members for their shortcomings, and then positioning themselves as the unique remedy to the feelings of guilt which they themselves created.
Cult members are made to believe they are insufficient or unworthy on their own and that the only way to become worthy is to confess their shortcomings to the group or leader. The leader then becomes the meditiator of worthiness and the foundation of the member’s self esteem.
Leaders who can make followers feel bad about anything can use shame to manipulate followers into doing anything, even if it’s against their own self-interest or better judgment.
6. The leader is above the law
If you’re held to a different moral standard, specifically in regard to sex, you’re probably in a cult.
A prevalent idea among cult leaders is that they are above the law, be it human or divine. This idea allows them to exploit their followers economically and sexually without repercussions.
When confronted, they do not confess, but create justifications for their impropriety. Sexual grooming of members is common. Loyal cult members will perform any amount of “mental gymnastics” to justify or ignore the leader’s behavior.
7. The group uses “thought reform” methods
If your serious questions are answered with cliches, you’re probably in a cult.
Indoctrination or “brainwashing” is the process through which a cult slowly breaks down a person’s sense of identity and ability to think rationally. Behaviors like excessive fasting, prayer, hypnosis, scripture reading, chanting, meditation, or drug usage can all be used to increase a person’s vulnerability to the leader’s suggestions.
The hallmark of indoctrination is the use of thought-terminating cliches. Platitudes like “follow the leader” or “doubt your doubts” are regurgitated over and over so that members don’t have to critically analyze complex issues.
8. The group is elitist
If your group is the solution for all the world’s problems, you’re probably in a cult.
Cults see themselves as the enlightened, chosen, and elect organization tasked with radically transforming individual lives and the entire world.
This elitism creates greater sense of group unity and responsibility centered on a united purpose. However, this sense of responsibility is often manipulated by cult leaders who coerce members into risky financial behavior, sexual favors, free manual labor, or heightened recruitment efforts in order to “further the cause.”
9. There is no financial transparency
If you’re not allowed to know what the group does with their money, you’re probably in a cult.
A group that refuses to disclose its finances is a huge red flag. Ethical organizations have nothing to hide. Cult leaders tend to live opulently while their followers are required to make financial sacrifices. Members are often encouraged to pay their offerings even if it means putting their families at risk.
10. The group performs secret rites
If there are secret teachings or ceremonies you didn’t discover until after you joined, you’re probably in a cult.
Cults use secret rituals as rites of passage that solidify a member’s loyalty to the group. Initiation into these rites usually only comes after a member has undergone certain tests or made adequate financial contributions.
Often, cult initiations are confusing, bizarre, or even offensive. This mental dissonance between their sense of confusion and their loyalty to the “inner circle” convinces the initiate to double their efforts in order to properly appreciate the proceedings. This only further entrenches them in a shame cycle, making them even more susceptible to manipulation.
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Just wish both parties would do the job and move on.
It seems to me that the Republicans are trying to do just that and the Democrats are inescapably trapped in November of 2016.
Amen... :thumbsup:
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Well i cant relate to your juror cos i dont know him,i dont know you either,but i see how you relate or dont relate to bible scripture.
You spoke of attacking me attacking you.What exactly have you done to me?You arent REALLY attacking me tho.You are attacking Gods word cos i back up what say using the bible.Plus i thought in one of your last posts you were done.Guess not eh?
https://www.jw.org/en/library/magazines/g201211/key-to-understand-bible/
I dont expect you to read the link or if u do to comment on it.Your choice.For the most part i consider it done unless i see otherwise and based on your jury post i wont hold my breath.
How many of these categories do you think hitch and the Jehovah Witnesses fall into? ???
10 Signs You’re Probably In A Cult
1. The leader is the ultimate authority
If you’re not allowed to criticize your leader, even if the criticism is true, you’re probably in a cult.
Cults begin with a charismatic leader who claims some supreme knowledge. They may call themselves a prophet, messiah, messenger, or an enlightened teacher. They can also be CEOs, military officials, politicians, and self-help gurus.
Cult leaders convince members to forfeit their critical thinking ability in return for a sense of belonging, authority, and purpose. To members, it doesn’t matter what the evidence or logic may suggest, the leader is always right, and their misdeeds are always justified. Criticism of the leader is forbidden.
2. The group suppresses skepticism
If you’re only allowed to study your organization through approved sources, you’re probably in a cult.
Cults view critical thinking as an infectious disease and every effort is made to suppress it. Doubting members are encouraged to isolate themselves from outside influences and focus solely on the doctrine of the cult.
Criticism is forbidden. People who contradict the group are viewed as persecutors and are often given labels like “anti,” “apostate,” or “suppressive person.” Members are discouraged from consuming any material that is critical of the group.
3. The group delegitimizes former members
If you can’t think of a legitimate reason for leaving your group, you’re probably in a cult.
Because the cult considers itself the ultimate authority on truth, it can’t imagine anybody leaving it with their integrity intact. Thus, it has to perpetuate a false narrative that former members were deceived, proud, immoral, or lazy.
If former members speak out, they are dismissed as bitter, angry, dishonest or evil. Cults often impose some kind of shunning to shame former members and prevent them from infecting other members with the truth.
4. The group is paranoid about the outside world
If your group insists the end of the world is near, you’re probably in a cult.
Cults position themselves as the sole refuge from an evil outside world that is intent on their destruction. Cults thrive on conspiracy theories, catastrophic thinking, and persecution complexes.
In an effort to draw in more paying members, cults are often very aggressive in their recruitment efforts which are usually justified as “saving” people from the evil world. Those who reject the cult’s message are unelect, prideful, evil, or stupid.
5. The group relies on shame cycles
If you need your group in order to feel worthy, loved, or sufficient, you’re probably in a cult.
Cult leaders trap members in shame cycles by imposing abnormally strict codes of conduct (usually prescriptions about diet, appearance, sex, relationships, media), guilting members for their shortcomings, and then positioning themselves as the unique remedy to the feelings of guilt which they themselves created.
Cult members are made to believe they are insufficient or unworthy on their own and that the only way to become worthy is to confess their shortcomings to the group or leader. The leader then becomes the meditiator of worthiness and the foundation of the member’s self esteem.
Leaders who can make followers feel bad about anything can use shame to manipulate followers into doing anything, even if it’s against their own self-interest or better judgment.
6. The leader is above the law
If you’re held to a different moral standard, specifically in regard to sex, you’re probably in a cult.
A prevalent idea among cult leaders is that they are above the law, be it human or divine. This idea allows them to exploit their followers economically and sexually without repercussions.
When confronted, they do not confess, but create justifications for their impropriety. Sexual grooming of members is common. Loyal cult members will perform any amount of “mental gymnastics” to justify or ignore the leader’s behavior.
7. The group uses “thought reform” methods
If your serious questions are answered with cliches, you’re probably in a cult.
Indoctrination or “brainwashing” is the process through which a cult slowly breaks down a person’s sense of identity and ability to think rationally. Behaviors like excessive fasting, prayer, hypnosis, scripture reading, chanting, meditation, or drug usage can all be used to increase a person’s vulnerability to the leader’s suggestions.
The hallmark of indoctrination is the use of thought-terminating cliches. Platitudes like “follow the leader” or “doubt your doubts” are regurgitated over and over so that members don’t have to critically analyze complex issues.
8. The group is elitist
If your group is the solution for all the world’s problems, you’re probably in a cult.
Cults see themselves as the enlightened, chosen, and elect organization tasked with radically transforming individual lives and the entire world.
This elitism creates greater sense of group unity and responsibility centered on a united purpose. However, this sense of responsibility is often manipulated by cult leaders who coerce members into risky financial behavior, sexual favors, free manual labor, or heightened recruitment efforts in order to “further the cause.”
9. There is no financial transparency
If you’re not allowed to know what the group does with their money, you’re probably in a cult.
A group that refuses to disclose its finances is a huge red flag. Ethical organizations have nothing to hide. Cult leaders tend to live opulently while their followers are required to make financial sacrifices. Members are often encouraged to pay their offerings even if it means putting their families at risk.
10. The group performs secret rites
If there are secret teachings or ceremonies you didn’t discover until after you joined, you’re probably in a cult.
Cults use secret rituals as rites of passage that solidify a member’s loyalty to the group. Initiation into these rites usually only comes after a member has undergone certain tests or made adequate financial contributions.
Often, cult initiations are confusing, bizarre, or even offensive. This mental dissonance between their sense of confusion and their loyalty to the “inner circle” convinces the initiate to double their efforts in order to properly appreciate the proceedings. This only further entrenches them in a shame cycle, making them even more susceptible to manipulation.
I guess Jesus must be president of that "so called cult"in your eyes.Plus they have love among themselves and obey his command to preach the good news of the kingdom worldwide.
Why dont you go ask Trumps son in law how he feels about JWs after they paid $340 million to them for Watchtower Bldg.
A divine blessing from God to use the $$$ for the worldwide preaching work etc.
I hope you copied and pasted that nonsense......i didnt read it at all....z-z-z-z-z-z
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Of course you didn't. Can't have any independent thought compete with your Watchtower programming!
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BTW,i did answer your question Re Hitler and i am sure you will disagree that YOUR god punishes people forever in hell if they are wicked in his eyes.
Thats another reason why i dumped catholic religeon.I couldnt fathom TRUE God being that way...even before i understood bible truths.
I am curious,so u think A&E and Judas <to name a few>are in your hell?
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BTW,i did answer your question Re Hitler and i am sure you will disagree that YOUR god punishes people forever in hell if they are wicked in his eyes.
Thats another reason why i dumped catholic religeon.I couldnt fathom TRUE God being that way...even before i understood bible truths.
I am curious,so u think A&E and Judas <to name a few>are in your hell?
A&E, I have no context to answer this side of eternity. The bible is silent.
Judas on the other hand, surely went to Hell. Jesus said of him it would be better had never been born (Matt 26:24) he was headed for destruction (John 17:12) and called him a Devil (John 6:70)
Also the fact that Satan possessed him and he never repented yet chose to kill himself speaks clearly enough for me to feel confident in saying he went to Hell.
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BTW,i did answer your question Re Hitler and i am sure you will disagree that YOUR god punishes people forever in hell if they are wicked in his eyes.
Thats another reason why i dumped catholic religeon.I couldnt fathom TRUE God being that way...even before i understood bible truths.
I am curious,so u think A&E and Judas <to name a few>are in your hell?
A&E, I have no context to answer this side of eternity. The bible is silent.
Judas on the other hand, surely went to Hell. Jesus said of him it would be better had never been born (Matt 26:24) he was headed for destruction (John 17:12) and called him a Devil (John 6:70)
Also the fact that Satan possessed him and he never repented yet chose to kill himself speaks clearly enough for me to feel confident in saying he went to Hell.
So where is Satan and all his angels.They were in heaven NOT TOO LONG AND rev SAYS WOE TO THE EARTH after they were removed?They didnt get their ticket punched to hell yet?LOL!
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BTW,i did answer your question Re Hitler and i am sure you will disagree that YOUR god punishes people forever in hell if they are wicked in his eyes.
Thats another reason why i dumped catholic religeon.I couldnt fathom TRUE God being that way...even before i understood bible truths.
I am curious,so u think A&E and Judas <to name a few>are in your hell?
A&E, I have no context to answer this side of eternity. The bible is silent.
Judas on the other hand, surely went to Hell. Jesus said of him it would be better had never been born (Matt 26:24) he was headed for destruction (John 17:12) and called him a Devil (John 6:70)
Also the fact that Satan possessed him and he never repented yet chose to kill himself speaks clearly enough for me to feel confident in saying he went to Hell.
So where is Satan and all his angels.They were in heaven NOT TOO LONG AND rev SAYS WOE TO THE EARTH after they were removed?They didnt get their ticket punched to hell yet?LOL!
Obviously not. Read Revelations 20:10
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BTW,i did answer your question Re Hitler and i am sure you will disagree that YOUR god punishes people forever in hell if they are wicked in his eyes.
Thats another reason why i dumped catholic religeon.I couldnt fathom TRUE God being that way...even before i understood bible truths.
I am curious,so u think A&E and Judas <to name a few>are in your hell?
A&E, I have no context to answer this side of eternity. The bible is silent.
Judas on the other hand, surely went to Hell. Jesus said of him it would be better had never been born (Matt 26:24) he was headed for destruction (John 17:12) and called him a Devil (John 6:70)
Also the fact that Satan possessed him and he never repented yet chose to kill himself speaks clearly enough for me to feel confident in saying he went to Hell.
So where is Satan and all his angels.They were in heaven NOT TOO LONG AND rev SAYS WOE TO THE EARTH after they were removed?They didnt get their ticket punched to hell yet?LOL!
Obviously not. Read Revelations 20:10
Oh so they get a pass to run havoc on the earth till they burn forever??
JJ UR NUTZ!!
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BTW,i did answer your question Re Hitler and i am sure you will disagree that YOUR god punishes people forever in hell if they are wicked in his eyes.
Thats another reason why i dumped catholic religeon.I couldnt fathom TRUE God being that way...even before i understood bible truths.
I am curious,so u think A&E and Judas <to name a few>are in your hell?
A&E, I have no context to answer this side of eternity. The bible is silent.
Judas on the other hand, surely went to Hell. Jesus said of him it would be better had never been born (Matt 26:24) he was headed for destruction (John 17:12) and called him a Devil (John 6:70)
Also the fact that Satan possessed him and he never repented yet chose to kill himself speaks clearly enough for me to feel confident in saying he went to Hell.
So where is Satan and all his angels.They were in heaven NOT TOO LONG AND rev SAYS WOE TO THE EARTH after they were removed?They didnt get their ticket punched to hell yet?LOL!
Obviously not. Read Revelations 20:10
Oh so they get a pass to run havoc on the earth till they burn forever??
JJ UR NUTZ!!
Satan gets judged at the end times like everyone else. Take it up with God.
The bottom line is you better take the punishment parts of scripture seriously.
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On your hell theory.God said eye for an eye life for a life.NOTHING ever said about continuing punishment.
Putting the wicked out of existence is quite suffice they will NEVER cause disorder in Gods world again.
You give the example of if someone hurt my family member.I understand we think sometimes justice in the world isnt enuff sometimes.If you could get away with killing someone that hurt your family member that wouldnt be enuff?They have to burn forever?Clearly this makes God look like a monster,something Satan enjoys portraying God as.
Even Jesus said to his father as he was getting tortured,forgive them,they dont know what they are doing.So when u know Jesus is merciful like his father is its ez to figure out.
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BTW,i did answer your question Re Hitler and i am sure you will disagree that YOUR god punishes people forever in hell if they are wicked in his eyes.
Thats another reason why i dumped catholic religeon.I couldnt fathom TRUE God being that way...even before i understood bible truths.
I am curious,so u think A&E and Judas <to name a few>are in your hell?
A&E, I have no context to answer this side of eternity. The bible is silent.
Judas on the other hand, surely went to Hell. Jesus said of him it would be better had never been born (Matt 26:24) he was headed for destruction (John 17:12) and called him a Devil (John 6:70)
Also the fact that Satan possessed him and he never repented yet chose to kill himself speaks clearly enough for me to feel confident in saying he went to Hell.
So where is Satan and all his angels.They were in heaven NOT TOO LONG AND rev SAYS WOE TO THE EARTH after they were removed?They didnt get their ticket punched to hell yet?LOL!
Obviously not. Read Revelations 20:10
Oh so they get a pass to run havoc on the earth till they burn forever??
JJ UR NUTZ!!
Satan gets judged at the end times like everyone else. Take it up with God.
The bottom line is you better take the punishment parts of scripture seriously.
I take it very seriously.I wanna live in a peaceful paradise earth forever.
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Wow! This post got too serious and a little crazy for me.