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I read an article today that said in some states, food stamps can be used at places like KFC, Taco Bell, Pizza Hut, and they are lobbying to allow this in more states. They idea behind it is to allow those who are homeless or not able to cook a meal a place to get hot food instead of buying chips and candy bars.
What do you all think about this?
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I doubt it will pass.
Homeless can currently go into Walmart or another supermarket and buy sandwiches in the deli. In my town, there are gas stations with microwaves that the homeless frequent. Personally, as a recipient of food stamps, I don't believe it is a good idea.
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I had never thought about the homeless and food stamps and where they can buy food. But after reading both these posts, I come down on the side of not a good idea. The fast food types that were mentioned are pretty expensive, I think.
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I LOVE THE IDEAL. I WOULD TAKE EVERY PENNY THAT THE GOVERNMENT HAVE. :icon_rr: :star: :star: :star:
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I LOVE THE IDEAL. I WOULD TAKE EVERY PENNY THAT THE GOVERNMENT HAVE. :icon_rr: :star: :star: :star:
Do we have yet another hard working 'model citizen' here? ::)
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lol..they just approved drug testing in Florida for foodstamp recipients...think its a good idea but alot say it violates peoples rights.
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lol..they just approved drug testing in Florida for foodstamp recipients...think its a good idea but alot say it violates peoples rights.
It worries me. I see what happens with food stamps. There are many who sell them so they can buy drugs. But there are also children that will go hungry should their parents lose their food stamps. Another topic where there are too many grey areas to sit on once side of the fence or another.
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lol..they just approved drug testing in Florida for foodstamp recipients...think its a good idea but alot say it violates peoples rights.
It worries me. I see what happens with food stamps. There are many who sell them so they can buy drugs. But there are also children that will go hungry should their parents lose their food stamps. Another topic where there are too many grey areas to sit on once side of the fence or another.
Well, if the parents care so little about their kids that they would let them go hungry rather than give up their drugs, the kids obviously don't have a very good life anyway and should be taken away and put in foster homes. I think the drug testing is a great idea. Also, the government could do a lot to curb obesity in this country by making it only possible to buy good basic nourishing food with food stamps, and not junk food of any kind. Most of the obese people are on welfare and food stamps. If they worked for a living, most of them wouldn't be so fat.
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I think it's a bad idea, terrible food! But, after noticing what people put in their shopping carts and observing people using link cards at nearby gas/convenience stores -all on the same page - terrible food.
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lol..they just approved drug testing in Florida for foodstamp recipients...think its a good idea but alot say it violates peoples rights.
It worries me. I see what happens with food stamps. There are many who sell them so they can buy drugs. But there are also children that will go hungry should their parents lose their food stamps. Another topic where there are too many grey areas to sit on once side of the fence or another.
Well, if the parents care so little about their kids that they would let them go hungry rather than give up their drugs, the kids obviously don't have a very good life anyway and should be taken away and put in foster homes. I think the drug testing is a great idea. Also, the government could do a lot to curb obesity in this country by making it only possible to buy good basic nourishing food with food stamps, and not junk food of any kind. Most of the obese people are on welfare and food stamps. If they worked for a living, most of them wouldn't be so fat.
Try feeding a family of three on $300 a month and buy good basic nourishing food. Most of the obese people are on welfare and food stamps? I find that highly offensive. My family receives food stamps.
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Interesting topic. I wonder if it's only the homeless who's benefiting this.
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lol..they just approved drug testing in Florida for foodstamp recipients...think its a good idea but alot say it violates peoples rights.
It worries me. I see what happens with food stamps. There are many who sell them so they can buy drugs. But there are also children that will go hungry should their parents lose their food stamps. Another topic where there are too many grey areas to sit on once side of the fence or another.
Well, if the parents care so little about their kids that they would let them go hungry rather than give up their drugs, the kids obviously don't have a very good life anyway and should be taken away and put in foster homes. I think the drug testing is a great idea. Also, the government could do a lot to curb obesity in this country by making it only possible to buy good basic nourishing food with food stamps, and not junk food of any kind. Most of the obese people are on welfare and food stamps. If they worked for a living, most of them wouldn't be so fat.
Try feeding a family of three on $300 a month and buy good basic nourishing food. Most of the obese people are on welfare and food stamps? I find that highly offensive. My family receives food stamps.
My family of four doesn't receive food stamps, and we spend less than $300 a month on groceries. We might spend $10 a month on fast food, but we choose to eat healthier most of the time. You've been brainwashed by the fast food places that it's cheaper to eat there, but it's much more expensive.
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I personally use the foodstamp program here in Missouri and you can't use them to buy hot items. I also don't think using food stamps to purchase fast food should be allow becuse you food stamps would go further to provide food if you prepare it your self. I woud use my food stamps to go out to eat that is something you save up to do. As for the homeless they may not be able to purchase there food all at one time but their are many things they can buy at a grocery to that doesn't require you to cook it to eat it, and for not having much they could eat sandwiches of all kinds and have a variety with purchasing at the grocery store and its more than they had so I don't think they would be to picky. If they need a hot meal they can go to gas stations and get a cold sandwich like hambergers, burritos, chili dogs already packaged and use there microwave to heat it. Using food stamps this way would be a waste and what about the children, instead of eating at home they would not get as much food if there parents take them out all the time. Of course that would only be with parents who don't want there children having a well balanced meal. I know a few people that are lazy and would rather get food from somewhere where its already made to feed their kids so they would not have to this is my concern becuase fast food isn't really all that healthy and we will have children with all kinds of health problems, just because they are not getting proper nutrition.
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lol..they just approved drug testing in Florida for foodstamp recipients...think its a good idea but alot say it violates peoples rights.
It worries me. I see what happens with food stamps. There are many who sell them so they can buy drugs. But there are also children that will go hungry should their parents lose their food stamps. Another topic where there are too many grey areas to sit on once side of the fence or another.
my brother and his girl friend get food stamps and they sell almost all of them so they can buy stuff for themselves.
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I don't agree with this at all! In my state if a homeless person is unable to cook food for themselves there are plenty of shelters that offer hot meals 3 times a day! If fast food is going to be allowed for food stamps then we will have more and more people to lie as they do to get on them! I wished our state would pass the law where they would have to pass a urine test just to get any assistance!
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and we will have children with all kinds of health problems, just because they are not getting proper nutrition.
What do you mean "we will have children with all kinds of health problems"? Unless you live in the dark ages, you should know we already DO have a nation of young kids who are obese (many to the point of it being morbid obesity which is life threatening), diabetic, have compromised immune systems, and coronary/heart problems just to mention a few of the biggies never before seen in that age group. Maybe giving a number can be grasped better: try 33% of the under age 18 population and that is going to lead to more and more obese adults and, currently, we have obesity in almost 60% of adults! I am NOT talking about someone who is 10-30 pounds overweight, that is NOT obese.
It cannot all be blamed on fast food, receiving food stamps, or because it is 'inherited'. Those are nothing but excuses. Many of the overweight/obese kids I see as patients do not come from poor families or families that have to rely on help in order to feed themselves.
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I see Hispanics and blacks all the time in the grocery store with their buggies just running over. Most of what I see in black people's buggies is PURE JUNK, or it will be lobster, shrimp and Steaks. Hispanics buy more fresh vegetables. I see them pay with their EBT cards.
DO NOT accuse me of being prejudice. I am simply reporting what I HAVE PERSONALLY SEEN !! Facts are facts!!
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trying use coupson wit it ok ::)
I read an article today that said in some states, food stamps can be used at places like KFC, Taco Bell, Pizza Hut, and they are lobbying to allow this in more states. They idea behind it is to allow those who are homeless or not able to cook a meal a place to get hot food instead of buying chips and candy bars.
What do you all think about this?
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I live in the city and I'm sorry to say that you see a lot of homeless people because of the loss of jobs. I would hate to think that they might become sick because of not being able to eat properly. That will only cost taxpayers more money in medical costs and emergency room costs. Places like KFC have chicken and potatoes and coleslaw which is a vegetable salad they can get a balanced meal. I don't think food stamps should be used for junk food or soda but I see that when I go to the supermarket.At least this makes some sense.
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Some folks cannot afford to cook on an oven or even have a microwave. But food is more economical, you can buy more of it. Hot foods cost more. I do not like this, unless they set a "cap" on a percentage of your food stamp allocations. Or they allow you to designate a certain amount.
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Fast food is cheap, but not THAT cheap! Recipients get maybe $27/week in stamps; In 3-4 days, they'd be starving.
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food stamps for homeless i 100% agree. :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :angel12:
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I wish you were allowed to buy fast (hot) foods with food stamps. The price of groceries are so high and keep getting more expensive. I think you'd save money in the long run. There are healthy fast-food choices out there as well.
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I agree we need to help our homeless neighbors. The real problem is these homeless people are going to go from bad to worse by eating fast foods. Look at all the diabetics, obese people and people who have real health problems. Some local supermarkets are placing microwave ovens for people to prepare their meals...I think this is a better idea because they can buy nutritious meals and eat them right there.
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I think the system we have in place is too lenient as is. I believe only healthy items should be able to be purchased with food stamps. Things like soda, candy and ice cream can be paid out of pocket if one desires but it shouldn't be included in the benefits. That's my opinion. Food stamps shouldn't become a lifestyle but rather a helping hand in desperate times. It should be out there with the intent to provide food to those in need not a replacement for paying for your own food. So I say no to letting food stamp recipients get fast food.
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Hey "freepcmoney" I am not accusing you of being prejudice, however I can turn the tables on your statement. I live in rural PA in a town where I can literally count the number of blacks on one hand, and the number of Hispanics on the other. BY the way I am black. So guess who the majority of the "Access" card users are and generally buy nothing but junk or obesity producing foods? And by the way....we only have 3 Chinese and they own the Chinese restaurant. No other ethnics. My point being is, it does not matter where you live or what the race...ignorance knows no color or race when it comes to things like food stamps...aka EBT, Access card and so on. Besides, what do they care? It's not their money. It's folks like us who work hard, and pay our taxes.
And I do not agree with being able to use these resources for McDonald's, KFC, or any fast food joint. They want fast food? Let them go out and work to earn that pleasure as I do cause goodness knows fast food is not as cheap as it used to be. Unless it's White Castle. :sad1:
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Hey "freepcmoney" I am not accusing you of being prejudice, however I can turn the tables on your statement. I live in rural PA in a town where I can literally count the number of blacks on one hand, and the number of Hispanics on the other. BY the way I am black. So guess who the majority of the "Access" card users are and generally buy nothing but junk or obesity producing foods? And by the way....we only have 3 Chinese and they own the Chinese restaurant. No other ethnics. My point being is, it does not matter where you live or what the race...ignorance knows no color or race when it comes to things like food stamps...aka EBT, Access card and so on. Besides, what do they care? It's not their money. It's folks like us who work hard, and pay our taxes.
And I do not agree with being able to use these resources for McDonald's, KFC, or any fast food joint. They want fast food? Let them go out and work to earn that pleasure as I do cause goodness knows fast food is not as cheap as it used to be. Unless it's White Castle. :sad1:
This might seem like a strange question but... who is that on your avatar? You stated here that you're black.
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I see Hispanics and blacks all the time in the grocery store with their buggies just running over. Most of what I see in black people's buggies is PURE JUNK, or it will be lobster, shrimp and Steaks. Hispanics buy more fresh vegetables. I see them pay with their EBT cards.
DO NOT accuse me of being prejudice. I am simply reporting what I HAVE PERSONALLY SEEN !! Facts are facts!!
and the white people i have seen using their food stamps are just as bad!!!
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@trucktina That is David Boreanez from the show "Bones" and "Angel".
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When it comes to hunger do we really have right to say who gets to eat and who doesn't or even what they get to eat. Why because it's America's tax dollar at work. Do you think that out of all the homeless people that not a one ever held a job. Chances are they have, and they once paid taxes too. Nobody should be hungry because of past mistakes, race, diability, gender. Give without the judgement. Give freely. You may need the same one day.
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@trucktina That is David Boreanez from the show "Bones" and "Angel".
Oh, sorry! I never watched those shows much.
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I don't think this would be a good idea. I see people get their groceries at the beginning of the month and by the end they are out of food and food stamps. If they could by fast food with them then they would only eat 1 to two weeks and starve the rest of the month.
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I read an article today that said in some states, food stamps can be used at places like KFC, Taco Bell, Pizza Hut, and they are lobbying to allow this in more states. They idea behind it is to allow those who are homeless or not able to cook a meal a place to get hot food instead of buying chips and candy bars.
What do you all think about this?
Good idea on paper. Only one small problem. NYC is one of those places that allow this. I have personally seen on countless occasions that it's not been the homeless taking advantage of this. Try some woman or guy dressed better than me with gold everything standing in front of me paying with their food stamps. Annoys the hell out of me.
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It's a bad idea. As someone who receives food stamps (who doesn't dress better than those around me, but I have seen those types, and it irritates me as well), I'd say people would easily abuse this. The people who really need them and must make them last for an entire month go out of their way to prepare nutritious meals within their monthly allotment. People are just too lazy to cook, they want everything right now.
People can also purchase junk food with them, that should be eliminated. They can buy soda/chips/candy and all that icky processed food. Gross!
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I think Food Stamps at restaurants is a good idea for people who can't cook or do not have a place to cook
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Not a real fan of this idea. Too easy to abuse.
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I think that instead of offering the fast food option, it should be that they have sites that people can get food warmed or cooked. I know that there are a lot of different places in our state that you can get food hot. Having worked in a couple of places where families received food stamps. We would always know what time of the month it was because of food the children have. I think you should not just get food stamps, I think there should be some education to go with it to help people know what is a good purchase and what is not. Also it would help if some of the foods that are good for you where priced at a cost you could afford not just the foods that are processed and high in fats. I also think that people that are homeless could look at the local soup kitchens or centers that offer meals. I know that in our state they are offering free lunch and breakfast for school age children this summer. They doing this by a truck and they are also working with parks and recreation departments. So letting people know where they can get the food then they can use the food stamps to purchase things that don't need to be heated.
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I don't think Food stamps should be used for fast food, they can get more groceries if they buy from a grocery store. Of course if it passed I might use my stamps once in awhile to eat out, but if I want to eat the rest of the month I would need to go and buy what I need at a grocery store and if I was homeless I would buy stuff to make sandwhiches that would not have to be refrigerated. We have use our imagination when it comes to budgeting even if we have foods stamps its to make sure we get healthy meals through out the month.
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WTF They can get a sandwich ffs!
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I read an article today that said in some states, food stamps can be used at places like KFC, Taco Bell, Pizza Hut, and they are lobbying to allow this in more states. They idea behind it is to allow those who are homeless or not able to cook a meal a place to get hot food instead of buying chips and candy bars.
What do you all think about this?
I do not think this would be a good idea at all!! Here in Oklahoma, I know people who sell or "trade" their food stamps or cash balances between each other and for their benefit only. I think most parents with children who are on welfare are just lazy. If you have food stamps in my area, more than likely, you live in low-income housing with a stove and a microwave. Some units will have a dishwasher even. You are telling me that these parents don't know how to cook? More like knowing how to cook weed or making a meth lab. It makes me sick. A town about 20 miles where I live, was cooking up a meth lab right across an elementary school!! How sad!!
I think that if food stamps were accepted in fast foods, pretty soon the Government is going to blame these restaurants, like McDonald's again for making people obese! Get real! That is just my opinion. :angry7:
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Why cant a homeless person just buy food like cans, bread, etc at the grocery store. I think it's :bs:
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"I know that in our state they are offering free lunch and breakfast for school age children this summer. They doing this by a truck and they are also working with parks and recreation departments. "
They do this in Colorado, I think it applies for seniors as well. I know in some states, you can also use food stamps at Farmers Markets as well.
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When it comes to hunger do we really have right to say who gets to eat and who doesn't or even what they get to eat. Why because it's America's tax dollar at work. Do you think that out of all the homeless people that not a one ever held a job. Chances are they have, and they once paid taxes too. Nobody should be hungry because of past mistakes, race, diability, gender. Give without the judgement. Give freely. You may need the same one day.
Thank you for your refreshing lack of judging. :thumbsup: :angel11:
Some states, counties, towns cannot afford some of your suggestions, like community food prep places. Not all people on EBT are obese or lazy or dishonest, etc. There are no absolutes that cover everything and/or everybody. It's a complex situation. I live in a small town and our local newspaper covers the county. In the last issue there were only three jobs advertised. It's quite depressing.
I don't think they should be used on fast food because fast food is processed food full of additives that aren't good for you and can be addicting. I also disagree with being told what I can and cannot buy at the grocery store. All things in moderation. If I want to keep ice cream in my freezer, buy a bottle of soda for movie night or keep an antioxidant rich dark chocolate bar in my fridge for a treat so what. Sure some people don't know or care about eating healthy, but don't punish everyone.
Here in NM you can fill your cart with junk food, but you cannot get a hot chicken from the deli. It would be nice to bring home hot deli food sometimes, at the end of a long day or a smoked turkey leg when there aren't any uncooked ones available.
My ancestors came here to establish a free country. They fought for our freedom, as many still do today. Be careful to not undo what they have done. :peace:
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I*n the 'older' days people did not get food stamps. They had to go to a designated store/station and receive 'rations' of cheese, bread, milk, etc. The distribution station did not have any other items in it. I can still remember those 5 lb blocks of american cheese.
I think this was a better way because the food was usually higher in nutritional value than a lot of the brands in the store now.
This did not have the problem of the aid being traded for cash or drugs. Can you see selling a gallon of milk, or trading it for cocaine? Do not think it would happen
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I think if you can pass a drug test and prove that you are trying to get a job then you derserve some help, but if you cant, the help shuld be cut off. As far as the fast food thing, well I am undecided at this point. The way the costs are going up at the grocery store, sometimes it is cheaper to eat out for 1 or 2 people. :dontknow:
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Ok folks, what about last week at Kroger Chicken from the deli still hot was $3.oo and aa fresh one was $4.50 the $3 one weighed more and made 3 meals.
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I think there is positive potential for food stamps to be used in fast food; select restaurants and menu items. The idea of foodstamps is to help those with nourishment. Not for a bunch of garbage, sugary, fat induced high carb heart attach meals.
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Healthy and nutritious food cost a lot more than the processed stuff. If you can afford to eat healthy, good for you, but personally I'd like to see food stamps go to fast food. Sure, most people would get burgers or bad stuff, but I'm thinking more along the lines of Subway. Yes, they have some fatty food too, but if you're single and looking for a job, sometimes you'd just rather have someone else do the cooking. Job hunting IS a full-time job you know, especially if you don't have a car and have to visit each job contact on foot.
But then, not everyone on food stamps is unemployed.
Anyway, I don't think it's anyone else's business what someone buys with their food stamps. Food is FOOD.
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The food stamp program ,like any other Federal or state ran programs, needs a overhaul.
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VERY Bad Idea! It is bad enough that these people eat better than I do! The only thing people should be able to be with their food stamps is healthy, inexpensive food. No steak! No pop! No chips! And if they can't figure out how to budget, there should be a mandatory class. It is possible to make a small amount of money last. They want to go to McD's - GET A JOB!
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Healthy and nutritious food cost a lot more than the processed stuff. If you can afford to eat healthy, good for you, but personally I'd like to see food stamps go to fast food. Sure, most people would get burgers or bad stuff, but I'm thinking more along the lines of Subway. Yes, they have some fatty food too, but if you're single and looking for a job, sometimes you'd just rather have someone else do the cooking. Job hunting IS a full-time job you know, especially if you don't have a car and have to visit each job contact on foot.
But then, not everyone on food stamps is unemployed.
Anyway, I don't think it's anyone else's business what someone buys with their food stamps. Food is FOOD.
:thumbsup: If they're already selling them for drugs, what does it matter what is "legal to buy" with food stamps. IMO a big problem with society is everyone is worried about what other people are doing, sure I don't want my tax dollars to go to fast food but oh well at least it isn't being used for crack. (having said that I guess one could probably get some crack for some tacos or KFC also :BangHead: )
IMO drug screening is a step in the right direction but I know a lot of drunks that are just as bad or worse then other drug users, and it is a major infringement on civil rights.
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I read an article today that said in some states, food stamps can be used at places like KFC, Taco Bell, Pizza Hut, and they are lobbying to allow this in more states. They idea behind it is to allow those who are homeless or not able to cook a meal a place to get hot food instead of buying chips and candy bars.
What do you all think about this?
THATS THE BEST IDEA YET A PERSON SHOULD BE ABLE TO GET HOT MEAL INSTEAD OF EATING JUNK FOOD ALL THE TIME.
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I read an article today that said in some states, food stamps can be used at places like KFC, Taco Bell, Pizza Hut, and they are lobbying to allow this in more states. They idea behind it is to allow those who are homeless or not able to cook a meal a place to get hot food instead of buying chips and candy bars.
What do you all think about this?
I believe that great idea if the person that receive that used the right way and for the correct food.
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Times are hard out there, if the food stamps will help the homeless then it is a good program. But for the ones that will sell their food stamps for money then it is not a good program.
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I think it's shameful the way poor people are bashed and assumed to be drug addicts trading their benefits whenever the phrase "food stamps" is brought up. I'm not saying it doesn't happen, because it makes news when someone is caught, but it's very easy to pick on someone when they are down and out. I'd be willing to bet many people who bash and assume the worst of EBT recipients are Christians who have conveniently forgotten Matthew 7.1.
So what if someone wants to get McDonalds with an EBT card? It's none of my business.
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lol..they just approved drug testing in Florida for foodstamp recipients...think its a good idea but alot say it violates peoples rights.
It worries me. I see what happens with food stamps. There are many who sell them so they can buy drugs. But there are also children that will go hungry should their parents lose their food stamps. Another topic where there are too many grey areas to sit on once side of the fence or another.
Well, if the parents care so little about their kids that they would let them go hungry rather than give up their drugs, the kids obviously don't have a very good life anyway and should be taken away and put in foster homes. I think the drug testing is a great idea. Also, the government could do a lot to curb obesity in this country by making it only possible to buy good basic nourishing food with food stamps, and not junk food of any kind. Most of the obese people are on welfare and food stamps. If they worked for a living, most of them wouldn't be so fat.
Try feeding a family of three on $300 a month and buy good basic nourishing food. Most of the obese people are on welfare and food stamps? I find that highly offensive. My family receives food stamps.
If you can't easily feed 3 people with $300 a month that is just freaking handed to you then you need to learn how to cook properly. I make most of my food from scratch and and spend allot less then that and it is NOT given to me by the government !
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I read an article today that said in some states, food stamps can be used at places like KFC, Taco Bell, Pizza Hut, and they are lobbying to allow this in more states. They idea behind it is to allow those who are homeless or not able to cook a meal a place to get hot food instead of buying chips and candy bars.
What do you all think about this?
You have to have an address to even get food stamps so I fail to see how this is even a factor...
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If someone wants to use food stamps for fast food, I think they should be able to.
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I'm guessing the fast food industry is lobbying VERY hard to allow this. Doesn't matter to me.
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I completely disagree with the premise of allowing this. It should be used for "essential" items and some food items but certainly not fast food. I cannot stand the people that take advantage of the system and essentially live on the food stamps.
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I know a lot of the small convenience/gas stations here take ebt cards as payment. I've seen people loading up on junk and offering to buy their friends whatever they wanted as well. It's ridiculous really that people seem to buy everything with the money besides actual groceries
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dont like the idea it just agrees with the unhealthyness of our society already with the obesity rate
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Not all people on food stamps are homeless, for one. ::) And I think this would be bad in a way because fast food isnt very healthy for people ...
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I think this would be bad in a way because fast food isnt very healthy for people ...
Eating too many Ramen noodles has health risks as well. Eating completely 'healthy' foods is more expensive overall than eating less healthy foods and when cost is a factor, most fast food is as expensive as eating healthier, (but, not as convienent).
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As someone who had to make the choice of food stamps or starve myself and my daughter before my ex started paying the child support he owed us, food stamps are extremely wonderful, and most people who truly need them use them for what they really need. The most extravagant thing that my daughter and I would get was a pint of ice cream a couple of times a month. Otherwise, we'd get milk, bread, eggs, veggies (canned cause they were cheaper. I knew they weren't as nutritious, but better than nothing), fruit, cereal, juice, etc. In WV, you can't use food stamps for just anything, the state only will allow certain things to go through, and most convenience items (like food from the hot deli case, pre-made pasta or potato salads, etc.) were not covered.
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Food stamps for food... not fast food. Real food is healthier and involves a family working together to eat together. Even if it's just a mom and her children. The kids will remember these days, and hopefully strive to better themselves if big business decides to start hiring here in USA.
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So what if fast food is not healthy? Food is food.
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I read an article today that said in some states, food stamps can be used at place :thumbsup:s like KFC, Taco Bell, Pizza Hut, and they are lobbying to allow this in more states. They idea behind it is to allow those who are homeless or not able to cook a meal a place to get hot food instead of buying chips and candy bars.
What do you all think about this?
I think thats good :thumbsup:
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I doubt it will pass.
Homeless can currently go into Walmart or another supermarket and buy sandwiches in the deli. In my town, there are gas stations with microwaves that the homeless frequent. Personally, as a recipient of food stamps, I don't believe it is a good idea.
i never heard of that. i used coupons with food stamps before though
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I read an article today that said in some states, food stamps can be used at places like KFC, Taco Bell, Pizza Hut, and they are lobbying to allow this in more states. They idea behind it is to allow those who are homeless or not able to cook a meal a place to get hot food instead of buying chips and candy bars.
What do you all think about this?
I think that will pass but it's not a good idea. Because homeless can still go a lot of places to buy food instead of junks.
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I read an article today that said in some states, food stamps can be used at places like KFC, Taco Bell, Pizza Hut, and they are lobbying to allow this in more states. They idea behind it is to allow those who are homeless or not able to cook a meal a place to get hot food instead of buying chips and candy bars.
What do you all think about this?
I think that will pass but it's not a good idea. Because homeless can still go a lot of places to buy food instead of junks.
Can homeless get food stamps? I thought one had to have a residence?
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I think that is good b/c some people cant cook and some dont even have home, so being able to eat hot food while living under a bridge or where ever at least they can eat. what if you did not have a house and sleep where ever and all you could eat was chips or candy, or even crackers you would want somthing warm to eat even if its not so good for you oh well its better then juck food
also yes you can if you give info and they can prove your homeless, just like schools even if you dont have a house kids can still go to school
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I think it is a bad idea because to many people would abuse it and the group they are trying to help is the smallest fraction of food stamp users.
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In my city they only let people use foodstamps to buy hot meals like when storms come and peoples power has been out for days. I don't think the fast food is a very good idea but, they should change them and call them home stamps. People should be able to buy toilet paper and things of that nature. Not increase the stamps but widen what you can use them for.
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As a food stamp user i FIRMLY disagree with EBT being used to purchase fast food. The most a person can get in most states is $200. That isn't really even enough to eat a weeks worth of McDonald's anyways then you have people loading up on fast food, burning through their money, then starving at the end of the month. Or the other scary alternative, people being more inclined to sell their foodstamps to other people.
An alternative I like is to have the EBT card available in the hotbar area of the deli of the grocery store. Many of them have soup bars, daily cooked food, and cooked chickens. This would allow someone to get a heated meal for a decent price that is healthier for you, as opposed to sticking them with day old cold chicken.
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really bad idea. Homeless plus junk food no fun
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Another bad idea...but I wouldn't be surprised if it passed.
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I can't believe this is even an issue... Food Stamps are for healthy foods and I don't think fast food is that healthy...
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The fast food joints just want to get in on this food stamp program to make more money. Most of it is not as healthy as home cooked meals and cost so much more. If those that are on food stamps think it is demeaning to not be able to eat at them, then they should get a job. There are so many govt. programs out there to help those that are working and just can't quite get over the hump, but don't want to get welfare, ( called pride). I know i was there at one time. But just went and got another part time job along with full time.
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It's a stretch to call fast food a hot meal, but OK. There is the issue of health, but then they get Medicaid for that I suppose. No way a months food stamps allotment would last a whole month with those prices. I know.. I worked in the welfare system for 25 yrs issuing food stamps and other goverment handout programs. :BangHead:
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i hope that this does not pass for my state.. unless it already did O_O im in hawaii.. but my opinion on this is also bad idea. if buying fast food is allowed people will run out of the food stamp money faster. but there are a lot of people with food stamps here that realistically do not need extra money to sustain their living. they just get extra free spending money from the state. well anyways, people can go to supermarkets and buy fruits, vegies, some meat and it would STILL be cheaper then buying McDonalds for the family.
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I have mixed feelings about this one because I think that people should be able to go out to eat. However, I make too much to have food stamps and probably can afford to go out less than once a month- more like 2 times or less a year.
I also think that they deserve to eat healthy, more expensive food like fruit, vegetable, unprocessed cheese and meat. It's really sad that healthier choices at the grocery store cost the most.
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Nowadays you can sign up for loyalty programs on your smartphone and do pretty much anything for GC's. To me that's food stamps for fast food, it's free to get and I get a discount on fast food.
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I am on food stamps and we get 244 a month to feed three people. I by the best quality meats fruits and vegetables I can with this amount of food stamps and another $100.00 from my husbands earnings. . Being able to use food stamps at fast food resturants is not a smart move. Fast food is expensive, not very health and poor value for your dollar. Also, food stamps are only to supplement your food budget, and is not meant to be your whole food budget. As far as drug testing for food stamp assistance I think this is a dumb idea. I do not use any illegal drugs, but I do feel that the government is infringing too deep into our personal lives.
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Case in point mcdonalds allows you to use text message deals for discounts.
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theres a happys pizza and a subway by my house that accepts foodstamps not all everyone can use it though if your homeless your card can be set up for food places. I get food stamps and I can honestly say there is no way Id use mine at fast food places even if I could its cheaper to buy food and cook meals.
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If the person is truly homeless or unable to cook that is one thing. I think it is wrong for food stamps to be used for candy, chips, soft or sport drinks or any thing else that is not truely nutririous food. The whole Idea behind food stamps is for low income people to be able to eat healthy foods.
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lol..they just approved drug testing in Florida for foodstamp recipients...think its a good idea but alot say it violates peoples rights.
DEFINITELY should had to pass a drug test to get food stamps and/or welfare
and as for the children of these people- when they fail the drug test then it should show that they are not fit parents and should not even have custody of those children in the first place
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I LOVE THE IDEAL. I WOULD TAKE EVERY PENNY THAT THE GOVERNMENT HAVE. :icon_rr: :star: :star: :star:
wow.
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lol..they just approved drug testing in Florida for foodstamp recipients...think its a good idea but alot say it violates peoples rights.
What "rights" are being violated by such drug testing? There isn't any inherent 'right' to take drugs and it isn't an 'invasion of privacy' if the applicant voluntarily applies for such government assistance.
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I*n the 'older' days people did not get food stamps. They had to go to a designated store/station and receive 'rations' of cheese, bread, milk, etc. The distribution station did not have any other items in it. I can still remember those 5 lb blocks of american cheese.
I think this was a better way because the food was usually higher in nutritional value than a lot of the brands in the store now.
This did not have the problem of the aid being traded for cash or drugs. Can you see selling a gallon of milk, or trading it for cocaine? Do not think it would happen
Very good point
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Food stamps should be used to buy the basics to make as many meals as possible in the most inexpensive way.
They should only be given to those people who are actively searching for a job or a way to better their situation, and who can pass a drug test.
If you can buy drugs, you do not need my tax money to buy food.
If there are children involved who will suffer if their parents do not pass a drug test or do not get aid for not actively looking for a job, then clearly those parents are not too worried about their children's welfare. It's not difficult to not do drugs and to look for a job- if you aren't willing to do that you shouldn't be having children anyway.
The people who actually need help and are working to better their situations, good for you that is what the help is there for. Unfortunately, there are many who abuse the system.
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Arent people fat enough? I strongly believe that there are better ways to get a hot meal and a hot seat. If this bill passes the country would be back pedaling, not only would people get fatter but we would be putting money back into the big guys pockets. Who are they really looking out for, us the people or the big corporations who got us in this mess in the first place? You should really think about it@#$!%! :BangHead:
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In California, where I live, it has been happening for a while now. I think it works, especially for the homeless who don't have a place to cook a meal. People can use food stamps to buy unhealthy foods in grocery stores too.
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I get food stamps and its not enough to buy the more healthy food that I would like to get. I also don't know how to cook very well. so, I usually get any food that I can put in the microwave. It would be nice to use my food stamps to get some chinese food once in a while. I wouldn't be able to keep my apartment if it wasn't for my food stamps. I pretty much need my food stamps if I wanna put food on the table for myself.
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I read an article today that said in some states, food stamps can be used at places like KFC, Taco Bell, Pizza Hut, and they are lobbying to allow this in more states. They idea behind it is to allow those who are homeless or not able to cook a meal a place to get hot food instead of buying chips and candy bars.
What do you all think about this?
i think that it would be great for someone thats homeless to be able to get a hot meal instead of chips and such after all food stamps are for food i like this.
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That is the most WASTEFUL thing to spend government money on.
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i think its a good idea and could help a lot of people in need and i hope it will pass. thats way better than chips.
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Chips is not a meal. Use the stamps for good food for self and family. If you want to eat out, which many of us working to pay for your food stamps can't even afford, then find a way to earn money and eat out as a treat for yourself. On the subject of drug testing for food stamps, I believe any government entitlement program providing food, place to live, and subsistence allowance has the right and the responsibility to conduct random drug tests to prevent sponsoring drug addiction. If they provide someone food, home, and living expenses and let them continue to abuse drugs, then the government is in essence sponsoring drug addiction and very possibly child neglect. I know many may not agree, but that's just my opinion.
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I have to comment-food stamps are for those in need and due to a custody battle, in which I have all three of my children, I am THE custodial parent. My ex, their father called saying it was JOINT custody-my food stamps got cut in more than half until Someone from a bigger city near me can come investigate!!!! I clip coupons, do extra things like um FusionCash lol. Foodstamps ARE NOT FOR FAST FOOD!!!!!
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My girl gets foodstamps and I think it would be a horrible idea to allow people to use foodstamps to purchase fast food. That would make for more lazy parents, which in turn would make more over weight and unhealthy kid to follow. Very Bad Idea in my opinion... :bs:
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How rediculous! First they complain that fast food restaurants cause obesity and now they want to ok them to use food stamps to continue this problem.
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some people think that candy bars, cookies, chips, pizza etc. should not be allowed with the food stamp program either...but i think that a poor child should be able to enjoy a treat once in awhile justmlike the rest of us, and the homeless and less fortunate should enjoy a hot meal too.
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Very bad idea. Where I live, fruit stands accept food stamps. I think fruit is a far better choice than fast food. Fast food is expensive. If you're receiving food stamps, it's because you're struggling financially. Why would you compound the problem by purchasing costly fast food items. Not to mention, the obesity rates are alrerady high enough. This will only contribute to the problem. :o
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It is not a bad idea! Because there are so many homeless people who do not have a place where to cook and store their meals!
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I hadn't thought of that point on homeless people, it IS a GOOD point but how do you decide who is or isn't etc? Either way EXCELLENT POINT!!!
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Food is food. I think that a homeless person would find it easier to buy a hot breakfast from McDonalds versus buying a box of cereal and milk that can spoil before used, or just be stolen from them. If it's being used for food, it shouldn't matter where the food came from. It's not always ideal, but at least they are getting fed. Plus, you can't make a burger from the store for $1, but you can buy a McDouble. So sometimes, it could be beneficial. If they ate a burger a day for lunch, that's under $40 a month for them to eat lunch. I definitely can't get my kids lunch at school for cheaper than that. The only thing I can think of that would be equally as economical is pb&j, and a homeless person isn't travelling with their bread, jelly, and peanut butter.
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wow i never heard of that... but i think it would be better to get food stamps at a food store dont ya think?
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That's a stupid idea because fast food is cheap enough already.
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That's a stupid idea because fast food is cheap enough already.
yeah but if it is a familu who have kids its better that they get nutritious food , form a store.
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The point is that the poor should be helped and people should be honest
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not a good idea. using it for fast food normally would end up costing them more than if they were to buy real food from a grocery store. most grocery stores and walmarts have deli's now that you can purchase from if you arent able to prepare your own food, with at least a few items that ebt covers
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People getting food stamps can't afford "good" food to begin with.The average person on food stamps is eating a 50 cent box of mac & cheese for dinner 5 times a week.So I see no reason fast food shouldn't count.Let people have freedom of choice.
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People getting food stamps can't afford "good" food to begin with.The average person on food stamps is eating a 50 cent box of mac & cheese for dinner 5 times a week.So I see no reason fast food shouldn't count.Let people have freedom of choice.
I agree. As I read though the various posts in this thread what I am seeing the most prominent is judgement, disdain, and a sense of inhumanity. The disrespect and disregard for another human being is sickening. What if there were another Depression and we all became equals, all on the government dole. Would we even have a box of mac and cheese and would we be willing share it with a fellow neighbor?
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i think food stamps should be for food just as it says.Now the type of food you use it to get that`s purely up to the individual states.
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Before I say something stupid that sounds harsh, let me say that I know some people have great need of food stamps and use them as intended. The problem is that of all the people I know that use them they are traded for drugs/alcohol (hmmm maybe that says something about my character and the people I loosely associate or am aware of...). There isn't one of about a dozen that uses them for food. Possessed with such knowledge I only have a feeling of apathy (at best) for the whole matter.
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It is a very bad idea; from my point of view, what if people abuse the system? Ordering dollar menu's in the 100's. I'm sure most min wage workers won't put up with that everyday.
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i think it real good ideal for the ppl that can not cook and are homeless can get nice hot mail even not heathy
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That's goiing to be a bad idea.
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GOOD AND BAD DEPENDS ON WHAT YOU ARE EATINNG
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I really don't think food stamps should be used for fast foods. We are currently way out of control with obesity, and this would just serve to feed it some more. Like as been said, gas stations have sandwiches and microwave, and most sell some fruit and other nourishing things. I should think everyone could work a microwave, and if they can't, someone will always help them.
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I'm not sure that's a good idea. I know here in Texas at some Walmart stores these Cards issued for food stamps can be used at the gas pumps.
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One thing that bugs me sometimes, is when the person in front of me buys hundreds of groceries with stamps, steaks and other high dollar products, and then they shell out another $200 in alcohol and candy and toys. I'm behind them in line trying to get enough beans and rice and spaghetti to get us thru to next payday. I'm working and they are living high on my tax dollars. Just doesn't seem right somehow.
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lol..they just approved drug testing in Florida for foodstamp recipients...think its a good idea but alot say it violates peoples rights.
I think it's a great idea. I don't go to work and pay taxes so that people can sit at home and get high every day instead of making their own money.
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It would just make it easier to trade food stamps for cash by offering half price meals to customers in the parking lot in exchange for cash which would then be used for drugs and alcohol, things the homeless do not need. I think it is a bad idea.
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I was at a check-out in a store and a lady in front of me paid for about 200 dollars worth of stuff with food stamps. I had 2 items to buy so I finished my transaction while she was bagging up the rest of her stuff. I ended up walking out to the parking lot at the same time as this lady, and she got into a fancy newish lexus. So yeah sure...let them buy diamonds and private airplane trips too. It's all relative anyway. =-P
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it not good ideal use food stamps to buy food. should use cash instead to make purchases.
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People are scamming the government, when i worked at dollar general kids would come in with their parents cards and buy chips,soda,ice cream, candy and they still had like 800 left parents come in and buy stuff then whip out a hundred dollar bill to pay for a 10 dollar item. Now if you have a hundred dollar bill how are you getting foodstamps ooh i know because you are having kid after kid so you can stay at home and collect welfare. I was getting 7.50 hr rent was 550 not including electric and all and i did not qualify bs if you ask me. Now i collect 200 month fs and can only collect for 3 months and can't find a job because I am not hispanic or bilingual. And I don't have kids or a bf or husband to pay my bills the USA is no Longer the Good Ole USA
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This is ridiculous. I have had it up to here with the Food stamps policy.
Here in Michigan, lazy people who sit on their parents couch can get 200 dollars a month. But if you are a full-time student you cannot get them. And if you have a minimum wage job and pay rent, you get less than 150.
Also, I wish that drug testing was mandatory when someone applies for food stamps. I have heard of so many people selling their FS for cash to buy drugs.
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I dont think food stamps should be used to purchase fast food. that defeats their purpose which is to supply healthy, nutritious food to people who cant afford it. You should have to buy unhealthy junk on your own dime.
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NEVER GIVEN IT A SECOND THOUGHT, SOUNDS GOOD EVERYBODY HAS TO EAT REGARDLESS WHO YOU ARE
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lol..they just approved drug testing in Florida for foodstamp recipients...think its a good idea but alot say it violates peoples rights.
I think it's a great idea. I don't go to work and pay taxes so that people can sit at home and get high every day instead of making their own money.
Sure it sounds like a great idea, but it is not worth it when you add much it will eventuality cost in comparison to how many will fail. The test itself isn't that much (less than $5), where the cost will mostly come from is the medical people administering the tests. State reps from Fla estimate the drug tests to cost anymore from $10 to $70, depending on how long the drug test takes. If the average is $40 and there's 80,000 Welfare recipients, that's $3,200,000 in tax money to catch less than 8,000 people who'll fail. With Fla's law those 8,000 will have paid for there drug testing costs, lowering tax payer's cost to $2,880,000. Is that worth it?
I don't have a problem with food stamps getting fast food.
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Here in NY (The city that wants to ban oversized soda, popcorn, sweets) has been allowing people to use foodstamps at fast food establishments forever.
We, the taxpayer, also give those on social service a cell phone with 70 minutes a month. This is even more infuriating when they walk around with Blackberrys!
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I would not like to see that happen! There is a lot of good food choices out there where food stamps are taken and a lot of places to buy.
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I know people in colllege whom were on food stamps, but they were actually usuing money that was on a card. I don't know if there are ways to sell that type of funds or not. I do know they would volunteer to use their food stamp money for club functions, like instead of donating the $2 for the next social they would say they would bring the soda.
I don't think the fast food is a good option, mainly because from the first post it seems to be only at some name brand places. I wouldn't think that would be legal. It would seem that very quickly the ability to use a food stamp would be possible at anywhere that sold any type of food. Even sit down restuarants.
I'm in favor of testing people hwom are getting government aid.
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HERE,S THE REAL DEAL ON FOOD STAMPS
The government doesn,t provide education on the purchase of food. I was on Food Stamps about 10 years ago before I grew up and became a Man.
I would do all the shopping and they gave us over 350 dollars a month for food. OMG. I saved over 1,000 in food stamps in 5 months. For Me, My Girlfriend
and our daughter we used only about 130 dollars a month. This was 10 years ago. Now they hand out almost double that for a family of 3.
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I was on break from school yesterday and went into a 7-11 to buy gas and there was this girl in there using her food stamp car to buy cookies and
a starbucks coffe. That really pissed me off.
What a Broken System.
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This is new...it would be nice to have that here
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Around here, people can use their food stamps to buy energy drinks. This is not what the government had in mind.
Also, I don't think pop should be purchased with food stamps. It's not healthy--especially for kids. However, I buy pop myself so I am a bit of a hypocrite on that one. :-X
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If a person needs food stamps, they do not need expensive, non-nutritional fast food... my opinion, maybe MickyD's is really nutritious and i didn't know it...
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Yea I concur. Mcdonalds is healthy.
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That is rather interesting that a person who makes less than me can go out to eat significantly more often than I can if they have food stamps. Not that I want to end up as an unhealthy blimp, but it would be nice to go out once in a while.
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I saw a post on Facebook today that made me pretty happy.
3 states have started making it mandatory to for someone who is applying for welfare to take a drug test. (Florida, Kentucky, and Missouri). I absolutely approve this!
What does everyone else think?
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Foodstamps are meant to help the needy. Mcdonalds also accepts foodstamps. We the taxpayers are footing the bill for this. The us is going bancrupt what are they going to do when there are no foodstamps. Are we going to turn into a country like ethiopia? Our government needs to wake up. Dont keep giving these people the right to sit on their butts and help bleed our economy dry.
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The homeless could get a lot more food if they bought it and prepared it themselves at home.
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The homeless could get a lot more food if they bought it and prepared it themselves at home.
What home? They're homeless.
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stamps for fast food is not a good idea. that is not what it was intended for and would not last if spent that way.
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I think if they allowed people to buy fast food with their foodstamp card, they'll never cook and they'll never have no real food in their refridgerator. :'(
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The homeless could get a lot more food if they bought it and prepared it themselves at home.
What home? They're homeless.
Yeah, that comment does kind of make you wonder. Presumably, they might have a can of Sterno, or be able to build a small fire next to the cardboard box they sleep in under the bridge.
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The homeless could get a lot more food if they bought it and prepared it themselves at home.
What home? They're homeless.
Yeah, that comment does kind of make you wonder. Presumably, they might have a can of Sterno, or be able to build a small fire next to the cardboard box they sleep in under the bridge.
Presumably, it also includes some wifi or, "homeless hotspots" connection as well.
http://www.foxnews.com/tech/2012/03/13/homeless-people-turned-into-walking-wifi-hotspots-in-charitable-experiment/
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You're making a lot of sense. Why am I spending all this money on utilities and electricity? All I need is my laptop, I'll charge it at the next Starbucks and get my net access there. I can pack the few belongings I need in a shopping cart and spend 4 to 6 weeks walking down toward Florida when the winter comes.
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I think it is a good idea!
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lol..they just approved drug testing in Florida for foodstamp recipients...think its a good idea but alot say it violates peoples rights.
It worries me. I see what happens with food stamps. There are many who sell them so they can buy drugs. But there are also children that will go hungry should their parents lose their food stamps. Another topic where there are too many grey areas to sit on once side of the fence or another.
Well, if the parents care so little about their kids that they would let them go hungry rather than give up their drugs, the kids obviously don't have a very good life anyway and should be taken away and put in foster homes. I think the drug testing is a great idea. Also, the government could do a lot to curb obesity in this country by making it only possible to buy good basic nourishing food with food stamps, and not junk food of any kind. Most of the obese people are on welfare and food stamps. If they worked for a living, most of them wouldn't be so fat.
Try feeding a family of three on $300 a month and buy good basic nourishing food. Most of the obese people are on welfare and food stamps? I find that highly offensive. My family receives food stamps.
My family of four doesn't receive food stamps, and we spend less than $300 a month on groceries. We might spend $10 a month on fast food, but we choose to eat healthier most of the time. You've been brainwashed by the fast food places that it's cheaper to eat there, but it's much more expensive.
Guess that depends on where you live. Me and my son spend $300 a month and more because the food prices here are expensive. We dont eat beef or pork to much either but milk at $4.00 a gallon and if you shop a certain time of month juices and water is high. We dont drink faucet water so we have our 5 gallon water jug to get water for cooking certain things and then buy bottled water for drinking. A pack of chicken with maybe 6 pieces in it is 7 to $9. Turkey Bacon is 5 to $6 a pack. I cant say how many times I go to the grocery store and just shake my head. Vegetables are not cheap either and the fruit omg 1.29 cents a pound for a watermelon on certain days and thats when its fresh an havent been there for a bit. Oh yeah me and my son are lucky if we do get to eat fast food and if we do It will be him getting a treat cause a happy meal here cost $6 and lets not forget the tax..
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When I first heard about this I was a little optimistic. I couldn't understand why people would need to be able to purchase already cooked food with foodstamps. Many have begun to argue the fact that food is food, whether it is cooked food or fresh produce, it is still considered food.
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??? Wow that is a tough one. I know that you can make food stamps last a lot longer and go farther if you cook reasonable meals at home but like you said for the homeless that is a dilemma. I went into a convenience store that sells pizza yesterday and saw a sign on the window that said the pizza could be purchased with food stamps - sign said "ask me how" so I don't know other than that hadn't heard about it prior to your post.
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I think food stamps should only be used in grocery stores. One of the reasons this country has such a high budget deficit is because the government's money is wasted by not only the higher ups, but by the citizens as well. I have a cousin that doesn't want to get a job because he doesn't want to lose his girlfriend's food stamps.
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"Should" they, as in, legally, probably yes, but "should" they in terms of whether it's smart policy, no.....fast food is so expensive - smart shoppers know how to spend less on food ..... I keep my meals simple, rarely eat out ($100/month at a maximum), and it pays off because I'm able to treat myself occasionally and also start paying off my tons of loans..I'm not trying to compare myself to a person who's on food stamps, but thing is, we can't keep raising the amount ppl get (not including changes to inflation) just b/c ppl can't use it wisely and want more $....people are just naturally spenders
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I read an article today that said in some states, food stamps can be used at places like KFC, Taco Bell, Pizza Hut, and they are lobbying to allow this in more states. They idea behind it is to allow those who are homeless or not able to cook a meal a place to get hot food instead of buying chips and candy bars.
What do you all think about this?
that is ridiculous, the Federal food program (Food Stamps) is only used for food that has to be made by the person using the program. if any food that has to include sales tax will not be paid by the program,which means you can't even buy anything from a deli. So if anyone is telling you they are going to fast food restaurants and using their food stamps is either dreaming or they are lying. there is no state in this country that would pay for such nonsense.
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... the Federal food program (Food Stamps) is only used for food that has to be made by the person using the program. if any food that has to include sales tax will not be paid by the program,which means you can't even buy anything from a deli. So if anyone is telling you they are going to fast food restaurants and using their food stamps is either dreaming or they are lying. there is no state in this country that would pay for such nonsense.
"States with sales tax exempt food assistance benefits from that tax, (Florida, California, Arizona and Michigan),and no grocery store should charge sales tax on items purchased with food stamps."
--http://www.ehow.com/about_7488284_tax-food-stamps.html#ixzz24gdzb4a3
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Maybe if food stamps are allotted to be used in fast food it should only be for select items. That way combating overpriced greasy or sugary foods can be avoided and healthy nutritious options can be available. The food stamp program is great of parents struggling to make ends meat. Without the program I know first hand there was a time my kids and I would have sunk.
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I believe that Food Stamps should only be used for food that is purchased from the store. Fast Food should not be purchased with Food Stamps. The purpose of Food Stamps is to give people a way to purchase food and not to treat themselves out at a fast food restaurant.
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I grew up in a family of 8. My dad barely made over minimum wage and my mother didn't work. She stayed home and took care of the family. She balanced the budget and the meals. If we didn't like what she was cooking for dinner, we went without. When we got hungry, believe me, we ate. Simple.
Now I realize times are different today, but the good example my parents set can be applied today. Even if you're a single parent, which I have been before.
Here is an article from a woman who has a family of 5. She feeds them on $300 a month, and she does it without using coupons.
http://www.debtsmart.com/pages/article_feed_family_080430792.html
As far as using food stamps to buy fast food, the last time I checked, this was a free country. Do you want the government to take away all your rights and control all of your choices?
Let's lobby to take away freedom of speech and freedom of religion. How about taking away our right to bear arms?
Yeah, I'm all for a communist country. Anyone else?
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hen I was a military wife, family of four, I fed us all on 363.00 a month-- and NO, the commissary isn't always cheaper. We ate well, because I did a lot of home cooking-- filling nutritious foods, crock pot meals, casseroles. My other half and I now eat on about 250 a month, and it would be less if he weren't addicted to steak. It does take some planning-- and when my kids were little it also took some coupons and saying no to tv dinners and sugared cereals.
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Food stamps should never be allowed for fast food. I didn't think you could get food stamps if you were homeless. You have to have an address to give them. I also don't think food stamps should be used for chips and candy bars.
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hen I was a military wife, family of four, I fed us all on 363.00 a month-- and NO, the commissary isn't always cheaper. We ate well, because I did a lot of home cooking-- filling nutritious foods, crock pot meals, casseroles. My other half and I now eat on about 250 a month, and it would be less if he weren't addicted to steak. It does take some planning-- and when my kids were little it also took some coupons and saying no to tv dinners and sugared cereals.
You're absolutely right, however, the commissary, where I do most of my shopping, is less costly for almost all items in my area.
Most people in the US simply don't understand what "cooking" means anymore. They open a box of "Hamburger Helper," or they heat up a TV dinner and they call that cooking. That's not cooking and with those kind of women, going out and getting fast food is the cheapest and easiest way to feed your family. It will also make your family fat, but nobody seems to worry about that either. Give your kids Coca Cola, Ice Cream and lots of other sugary "treats." The fattest kids I've seen anywhere on the planet, and the women here are absolutely repulsive, even the younger ones.
My mother, my ex-wife, and my present wife all cooked from basic ingredients. Peeling potatoes, boiling rice, nothing deep fried. It takes more time, but it costs a lot less and it doesn't make you fat. My wife is 40 years old, has a good appetite, eats whenever she wants, is just over 5 feet tall and weighs about 98 pounds. No problem eating all you want if you eat the right foods, you'll never have to go on a diet.
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I have food stamps and I think it would be a great idea especially for those who live in hotels through the state and can't cook cause they do not have a stove. I went through that and trust me tv dinners can go only so far with children.
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I don't believe, in the State of Arizona, that you can use your food stamps for fast food. They're pretty specific here and anything that is "pre-made," like say - a roasted chicken you can get at your grocery store - food stamps will NOT pay for. Here, it has to be foods that YOU have to cook yourself.
I don't understand when others complain about people using their food stamps to buy things like alcohol or cigarettes. It's impossible. Food stamps are for FOOD, and things like alcohol and cigarettes are not a food item. Usually, those who are using government money for those things are the people who receive CASH ASSISTANCE. The cash assistance is also placed on the food stamp debit card, however, it's a separate account from the food stamps themselves. This would be the ONLY way they could buy cigs or alcohol.
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... the Federal food program (Food Stamps) is only used for food that has to be made by the person using the program. if any food that has to include sales tax will not be paid by the program,which means you can't even buy anything from a deli. So if anyone is telling you they are going to fast food restaurants and using their food stamps is either dreaming or they are lying. there is no state in this country that would pay for such nonsense.
"States with sales tax exempt food assistance benefits from that tax, (Florida, California, Arizona and Michigan),and no grocery store should charge sales tax on items purchased with food stamps."
--http://www.ehow.com/about_7488284_tax-food-stamps.html#ixzz24gdzb4a3
Ok time to get on my high horse. Taxes are not charged on FS. If you get soda you pay the CRV. As a person who was stupid early in life and a high school drop out I once was a recipient. You cannot get fast food on FS but you can use the cash on your EBT card to purchase fast food. FS cannot buy alcohol or cigarettes but the cash on EBT can.
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I am a person to help out the homeless people, but there are some that say they are homeless to get things they want. I think it's unfair to for TRUE Homeless people. I think that using food stamps in Fast Food restaurants is not a good idea due to the food is prepared already. I know here some convience stores accept food stamps and some have microwaves to heat the food, but that food is not prepared. I also heard that they are trying to change the usage of them in stores such as: not being able to purchase chips, candy, soda, and all the unhealthy foods.
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I read an article today that said in some states, food stamps can be used at places like KFC, Taco Bell, Pizza Hut, and they are lobbying to allow this in more states. They idea behind it is to allow those who are homeless or not able to cook a meal a place to get hot food instead of buying chips and candy bars.
What do you all think about this?
I most certainly will veto this if it goes up for referendum in my state. The United States is already belittled for the number of overweight citizens we have and allowing the use of food stamps in this way can only contribute to our lowering from our position as the top superpower.
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this sounds like a way for overweight people to continue to be overweight and now a reason to be lazy
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i think that it is a good idea considering that a lot of fast food resturants are making efforts to prepare more healthy menus. homeless people would def benefit from this legislation to help get quick food on the go. I would for people to keep in mind that not all homeless people are on drugs and on food stamps. There is a growing number of working poor and homeless families.
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no they shouldnt be able to go and eat at places like that. Fruits and veggies dont need to be cooked when there fresh and there are plenty of other option that dont need to be cooked.
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This is something that I can see as being highly debateable. In one case, people use food stamps in a grocery store so why not fastfood? On the other hand fast food often cost more than going to a grocery store and preparing the food themselves. The taxpayers are paying for foodstamps and the less that is used means it gets to be distributed to more people. I am on foodstamps, and can see both sides. Still, I do not think it should be allowed at fast food places. Plus I think buying the food and preparing it yourself is often more healthy.
Heres a salvation message. I hope you are interested.
Romans
Chapter 3
1 What advantage then hath the Jew? or what profit is there of circumcision?
2 Much every way: chiefly, because that unto them were committed the oracles of God.
3 For what if some did not believe? shall their unbelief make the faith of God without effect?
4 God forbid: yea, let God be true, but every man a liar; as it is written, That thou mightest be justified in thy sayings, and mightest overcome when thou art judged.
Psa 51:4
5 But if our unrighteousness commend the righteousness of God, what shall we say? Is God unrighteous who taketh vengeance? (I speak as a man)
6 God forbid: for then how shall God judge the world?
7 For if the truth of God hath more abounded through my lie unto his glory; why yet am I also judged as a sinner?
8 And not rather, (as we be slanderously reported, and as some affirm that we say,) Let us do evil, that good may come? whose damnation is just.
9 What then? are we better than they? No, in no wise: for we have before proved both Jews and Gentiles, that they are all under sin;
10 As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:
Psa 14:1, 53:1 Ecc 7:20
11 There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God.
Psa 14:2, 53:2
12 They are all gone out of the way, they are together become unprofitable; there is none that doeth good, no, not one.
Psa 14:3, 53:3
13 Their throat is an open sepulchre; with their tongues they have used deceit; the poison of asps is under their lips:
Psa 5:9, 140:3
14 Whose mouth is full of cursing and bitterness:
Psa 10:7
15 Their feet are swift to shed blood:
Isa 59:7 Prov 1:16
16 Destruction and misery are in their ways:
Isa 59:7
17 And the way of peace have they not known:
Isa 59:8
18 There is no fear of God before their eyes.
Isa 59:8
19 Now we know that what things soever the law saith, it saith to them who are under the law: that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before God.
20 Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin.
21 But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets;
22 Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference:
23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;
24 Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:
25 Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God;
26 To declare, I say, at this time his righteousness: that he might be just, and the justifier of him which believeth in Jesus.
27 Where is boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? of works? Nay: but by the law of faith.
28 Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law.
29 Is he the God of the Jews only? is he not also of the Gentiles? Yes, of the Gentiles also:
30 Seeing it is one God, which shall justify the circumcision by faith, and uncircumcision through faith.
31 Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law.
Romans 3 KJV
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I can't believe that this can be true. Most of us can't afford to eat at fast food restaurants on a daily basis so why should people who get food stamps. Not to mention the lack of nutritional value. As far as drug testing welfare recepiants, why not, people get drug tested to obtain employment so it only makes sense that people who benefit from the tax revenue generated by people who work should also have to prove that they are drug free.
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I don't see why so many people have a problem with it, I don't. What's the big deal. The idea of the program is to feed the hungry, if the hungry homeless or not wants to buy something to eat from a restaurant in addition to a grocery store some times why not. It's all food. The only difference is it's being made by someone else.
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This is something that I can see as being highly debateable. In one case, people use food stamps in a grocery store so why not fastfood? On the other hand fast food often cost more than going to a grocery store and preparing the food themselves. The taxpayers are paying for foodstamps and the less that is used means it gets to be distributed to more people. I am on foodstamps, and can see both sides. Still, I do not think it should be allowed at fast food places. Plus I think buying the food and preparing it yourself is often more healthy.
Heres a salvation message. I hope you are interested.
Romans
Chapter 3
1 What advantage then hath the Jew? or what profit is there of circumcision?
2 Much every way: chiefly, because that unto them were committed the oracles of God.
3 For what if some did not believe? shall their unbelief make the faith of God without effect?
4 God forbid: yea, let God be true, but every man a liar; as it is written, That thou mightest be justified in thy sayings, and mightest overcome when thou art judged.
Psa 51:4
5 But if our unrighteousness commend the righteousness of God, what shall we say? Is God unrighteous who taketh vengeance? (I speak as a man)
6 God forbid: for then how shall God judge the world?
7 For if the truth of God hath more abounded through my lie unto his glory; why yet am I also judged as a sinner?
8 And not rather, (as we be slanderously reported, and as some affirm that we say,) Let us do evil, that good may come? whose damnation is just.
9 What then? are we better than they? No, in no wise: for we have before proved both Jews and Gentiles, that they are all under sin;
10 As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:
Psa 14:1, 53:1 Ecc 7:20
11 There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God.
Psa 14:2, 53:2
12 They are all gone out of the way, they are together become unprofitable; there is none that doeth good, no, not one.
Psa 14:3, 53:3
13 Their throat is an open sepulchre; with their tongues they have used deceit; the poison of asps is under their lips:
Psa 5:9, 140:3
14 Whose mouth is full of cursing and bitterness:
Psa 10:7
15 Their feet are swift to shed blood:
Isa 59:7 Prov 1:16
16 Destruction and misery are in their ways:
Isa 59:7
17 And the way of peace have they not known:
Isa 59:8
18 There is no fear of God before their eyes.
Isa 59:8
19 Now we know that what things soever the law saith, it saith to them who are under the law: that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before God.
20 Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin.
21 But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets;
22 Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference:
23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;
24 Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:
25 Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God;
26 To declare, I say, at this time his righteousness: that he might be just, and the justifier of him which believeth in Jesus.
27 Where is boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? of works? Nay: but by the law of faith.
28 Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law.
29 Is he the God of the Jews only? is he not also of the Gentiles? Yes, of the Gentiles also:
30 Seeing it is one God, which shall justify the circumcision by faith, and uncircumcision through faith.
31 Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law.
Romans 3 KJV
What does all this psycho-babble have to do with a discussion about fast food? Circumcision/fast food, I don't see the connection, can you explain that? Almost certainly not.
Just one more idiot saying "hello."
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Food stamps should not be used for fast food it should only be used for prepared foods. :-
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In California you have two types of benefits associated with your food stamp card, food (strictly food stamps) and cash. If you use your card at a fast food place they will only accept payment from the cash portion. Seems like a bad way to go when you can feed yourself and your family much cheaper (and healthier) if you cook at home. You can't dictate how someone should spend their benefits, but I'm sure these people learn the hard way when they run out of funds long before the month is over.
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If a person needs food stamps, they do not need expensive, non-nutritional fast food... my opinion, maybe MickyD's is really nutritious and i didn't know it...
McDonald's burgers can be a good snack just like Burger Kings can be but one dollar may be to much to pay. Seems most people will not go there just for a snack. A value meal at a fast food place can be between $6-$7 in my area. A big unhealthy bread and meat sandwich (remove most of the bread and some of the meat and it is okay once and a while) with over priced unhealthy french fries and an unhealthy overpriced ( a soft drink at the local supermarket can be purchased for $0.21) drink. For six dollars I can go to the buffet for lunch and have salad, soup, vegetables, nine kinds of fish, beef, chicken, fruit all healthy. The problem is multifaceted, people lack nutritional knowledge and financial knowledge. And of course you could prepare more nutritious and cheaper meals on your own.
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I don't think that it will be passed because first of all, fast food is incredibly unhealthy and homeless people need as much nutrition as possible. Secondly, fast food is sort of unnecessary. Food stamps can access much better foods. Fast food should be out of a person's diet regardless of class.
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I guess it would be ok if they are homeless, but the piddly amount they give for food stamps wont last too long buying expensive fast food. I used to work in the welfare department and issued food stamps in Californa. The program and amounts are designed for grocery store bought food, and you really need to budget to make them last a full month...stews, casseroles and eating leftovers.
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Food stamps should only be for healthy foods, but people are going to buy whatever they want to eat that tastes good to them.
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I personally use the foodstamp program here in Missouri and you can't use them to buy hot items. I also don't think using food stamps to purchase fast food should be allow becuse you food stamps would go further to provide food if you prepare it your self. I woud use my food stamps to go out to eat that is something you save up to do. As for the homeless they may not be able to purchase there food all at one time but their are many things they can buy at a grocery to that doesn't require you to cook it to eat it, and for not having much they could eat sandwiches of all kinds and have a variety with purchasing at the grocery store and its more than they had so I don't think they would be to picky. If they need a hot meal they can go to gas stations and get a cold sandwich like hambergers, burritos, chili dogs already packaged and use there microwave to heat it. Using food stamps this way would be a waste and what about the children, instead of eating at home they would not get as much food if there parents take them out all the time. Of course that would only be with parents who don't want there children having a well balanced meal. I know a few people that are lazy and would rather get food from somewhere where its already made to feed their kids so they would not have to this is my concern becuase fast food isn't really all that healthy and we will have children with all kinds of health problems, just because they are not getting proper nutrition.
I think there are people that will take the easy way out no matter what. I was standing in line behind a young woman with two kids in the cart. Her card didn't have enough on it to buy everything she picked out so she put back the cabbage, carrots and raw chicken. She kept the cookies, chips and sodas. Her rationale to the clerk was, the things she put back she would have to cook anyway and at least her kids will eat cookies.
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It's a really hard topic. I think that the program should be MORE specific about the foods you can buy, and certain things, like most beverages should be off limits.
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I know there are hard working people that need food stamps to help them eat. I many years ago, was a food stamp recipient. I worked a full time job and a part time job and still qualified. I disagree with fast food being paid for with food stamps. I also disagree with soda and candy being bought with food stamps. But I would rather see those items pass, than hearing about people selling their food stamps for cash.
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unbelievable, that should be against the law
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This is not right. If they want to eat out go and get a job.
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lol..they just approved drug testing in Florida for foodstamp recipients...think its a good idea but alot say it violates peoples rights.
It worries me. I see what happens with food stamps. There are many who sell them so they can buy drugs. But there are also children that will go hungry should their parents lose their food stamps. Another topic where there are too many grey areas to sit on once side of the fence or another.
Well, if the parents care so little about their kids that they would let them go hungry rather than give up their drugs, the kids obviously don't have a very good life anyway and should be taken away and put in foster homes. I think the drug testing is a great idea. Also, the government could do a lot to curb obesity in this country by making it only possible to buy good basic nourishing food with food stamps, and not junk food of any kind. Most of the obese people are on welfare and food stamps. If they worked for a living, most of them wouldn't be so fat.
I have never been on food stamps or welfare, but before you start making stupid assumptions, first walk a mile in those on food stamps and welfare shoes. Also most obese people are not on food stamps or welfare. Ignorance in the USA is really running rampant and you seem to wallow in it.
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I don't think it is a very good idea at all, they can buy the food from the grocery store and make it like something you buy from the fast food places and it would be a lot cheaper.
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I LOVE THE IDEAL. I WOULD TAKE EVERY PENNY THAT THE GOVERNMENT HAVE. :icon_rr: :star: :star: :star:
I really hope you're being sarcastic. Otherwise "I don't want to live on this planet anymore."
I think being able to buy fast food with food stamps is a bad idea, it promotes people like the person above me to live off and waste government money. I know their are people that truly need it and I wish them the best but their are also lazy people that abuse the system and don't deserve it. Also obesity is high here so I bet we would be feeding into it more.
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I see Hispanics and blacks all the time in the grocery store with their buggies just running over. Most of what I see in black people's buggies is PURE JUNK, or it will be lobster, shrimp and Steaks. Hispanics buy more fresh vegetables. I see them pay with their EBT cards.
DO NOT accuse me of being prejudice. I am simply reporting what I HAVE PERSONALLY SEEN !! Facts are facts!!
Are you saying that you don't see any white people using food stamps? What about Asian or African? (yes, there is a difference between Black and African) To me that comment seems very prejudiced. If you were just reporting facts, then why wouldn't you report what everyone is buying with food stamps and not single out (segregate) food stamp recipients based on their race?
My best friend provides home health care to disabled people, which includes doing their grocery shopping. Most of her clients are Caucasian and they receive food stamps. She is black. So when she is at the grocery store shopping for her clients, with a cart or multiple carts of food, she has to deal with people like you who look down on her and judge her when they don't know the FACTS. By the way she works two other jobs as well to support her family and has never received food stamps.
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Most people who receive food stamps these days are the disabled, retired, unemployed (not by choice) and increasingly the underemployed, not necessarily recipients of other welfare type programs like TANF. But no matter what the situation, I don't begrudge anyone the ability to eat. It's not a "right", but it's the right thing to do.
That said, no, I don't think using food stamps at a burger joint is a good idea. And I do cringe when I see food stamps being used for things like candy bars. I'd love to see the real causes such as safe and easy access to regular grocery stores and the lack of knowledge of basic finances, consumer and domestic skills (not to mention the economy and employment situation!) addressed rather than subsidize Burger King. I just have no idea how that can happen with so much opposition, and so much resentment. Whatever some people might think, food stamps are no "living high off the hog" situation and the few who abuse them are far, far, FAR outnumbered by the many who truly need the help and follow the rules.
There but for the grace of God go all of us, you know. :peace:
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That will be so so so so much better. food stamps buying hot foods just added more choices for people/families to eat better and enjiy!
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I had heard about this years ago. It has not passed in all this time, and I doubt very seriously if it will pass now. At least they can buy something to eat if they go to the right store, like a supermarket. ??? :o ???
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No matter what the government allow people to buy with their food stamps, they still would not have enough food stamps to last for a month. Also if people are allowed to buy food from fast food places then the government is defeating the purpose of what the food stamps are for. Buy as much groceries as you can with your food stamps and hope that it will last to the next month when you get more stamps.
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But that's the thing, food stamps can be used on chips, pop, candy, and other junk food. People will use it for junk if that's what they want to do. Do I think it's right to make it available at fast food places, not really. But a homeless person that doesn't have a fridge or place to store food, may just want a hot sandwich on occasion. Food stamps don't cover prepared food either. So if you go to the store and get a hot rotisserie chicken, you cannot pay with stamps. If you buy the same rotisserie chicken cold, you can purchase it with stamps. So there really isn't a way for them to get a hot meal the way it stands. I made that point over a year ago. Just because you go to the store, doesn't mean you're buying things that are healthy. But as long as people are getting the food they need, I don't care where it comes from.
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It just might happen. In Mo., you can buy a cold meal at a grocery store and heat it up on-site. It could be good for the fast food places as they could refrigerate left-overs and sell them to food stamp recipients who would only have to microwave them.
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personally i don't put that trash into my stomach, and don't need food stamps, if i did so what, but for people that recieve the food stamps i feel they should buy what they want with it, question how would anyone like for someone to tell them what to buy? the gov. many years ago wanted people to suffer so this is the out come. so for what your ancestor did, the gov. is paying for the repercussion.
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I don't think this will ever pass.
I know people argue about being able to buy junk food or unhealthy food with food stamps, while I understand what they are saying some don't understand that the unhealthy food is cheaper. Try to buy fruits, and healthy foods and watch your food bills increase very quickly. At the same time fast food is expensive also. So this is a complicated issue. The cheapest would be to buy unhealthy at a grocery store, because lets face it the healthy food even at grocery stores is more expensive.
Now I'm not saying that it's right that there are abusers who only buy junk food. It's a complicated issue. Some people might buy unhealthy food but they can't afford healthy food so they just buy what will last them longer. Food is expensive.
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Well I can understand a little but what about the parents that does get them and have a home to cook.They going to end up doing that in stead of putting food in the house for their children. But other then that its a good idea.
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I don't think this is a good idea. Fast food is so expensive and what will they do when mid-month they run out of money.
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I do not agree that you shoud be able to buy fast food with the ebt cards. When if you would learn how to cook you can have very good meals. I bought a 5lb roast for $11 and a large butternut squash to be baked pluse will fix green beans with it and we will have several meals off the roast. I usually cook it and then freeze part for other meals. And the easy way to fix this cheap cut roast is to put it in a crock pot with a package of dry ranch dressing and a package of dry Au Jus. Then put a stick of butter on top and let it cook on low for 8-9 hours. Not much work and good beef. No filler in it. No reason why you can't eat right.
I have seen some people go into a store and buy the most expensive meat and then go out and trade it for booze, drugs and cigs. I consider that fraud.
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I think it will pass...I don't agree with it, but it will likely pass.
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I still feel that this is wrong. The taxpayers shouldnt have to pay for fast food. The foodstamps are there to help people not give them a free ticket. I also think that they need to do a better check with these obama phones. A lady from cleveland, ohio had 30 of them. She admitted this on utube. She did get busted for it but I am sure that there are others like her.
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Personally I think that food stamps should be used at a grocery store only not at gas stations or fast food places.
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I don't think it should be allowed for that. Homeless people have other means of getting access to food if need be. The government is complaining about fast food joints being unhealthy for people but they'll authorize government issued food stamps to pay for it???? Doesn't make sense!!!
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This may not be a popular thought but i think that the only thing that should be allowed to be purchased with food stamps should be healthy stuff. No pop, chips , or candies. And before anyone jumps on me yes i occasionally indulge in those things but they are not essential to life. My husband works for a grocery store and he has seen people use their entire food stamps for pop and candy and other bad things and then get into a fancy new car. Obviously they are living well above their means and should not be someone who is allowed to get help with their food purchases.
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It is hard to say, I don't think fast food is good for you necessarily but food stamps might actually go pretty far especially on value or dollar menu items. I don't know why they are looking at banning junk food but allowing fast food. I don't know the whole food stamp thing is a scam. Some people who need them can't get them and a number of people sell them at a discount for cash to buy drugs or alcohol.
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This is a very complicated issue. No one should have to go hungry, and in my opinion people should not have the right to regulate what other people choose to eat. I don't think it is a good idea or a bad idea. I believe that people who abuse the food stamp program will get whatever they want with their food stamps either way. There is a gas station close to my neighborhood that recently got shut down because they were allowing people to use food stamps to purchase any and everything they wanted with food stamps (gas, cigarettes, cell phone cards, probably even alcohol......etc.) And you know if it is happening in one place it is happening in 1000 places. I think what the government needs to be more focused on is the who instead of the what. A couple suggestions.......Make it mandatory that people who receive food stamps attend nutrition classes ( WIC does), and do random audits, not to check on the type of food they are buying, but that food is the only thing that they are buying. I have also heard of people selling their food stamps for cash to buy drugs. If they sell them for that they could easily sell them to buy a whopper or a big mac. I guess what I am trying to say is that in my opinion, people are going to eat what they want to eat so instead of discussing what people should eat the government should be discussing how to make sure people receiving food stamps are eating period and not using their food stamps for other things.
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That angers me!!!!
For one who has been on Food Stamps. I have seen a lot.
It is horrible what I see people buying... It seriously angers me.
They are getting help from the State they should be ONLY able to buy healthy food.
Nutritious food!! Just as they do with WIC Woman Infant and Children. They have stipulations on what they can and have to purchase. They are healthy foods.
I truly hope that is not serious. It will only make people either feed their children or families even less healthy then some do now. And to think that it would be fast food.. sad.
*now that I think about it. I do know that they can purchase only take and bake pizza NOT one prepared. One you cook at home.
Interesting topic. Thank you for the information.
Happy earnings!! :thumbsup:
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no I don't think food stamps at fast food places would be a g :bunny:ood ideal!!!
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It is just a way for the government to spend more money. Why dont they give them help to get back on their feet another way. The fast food restaurants are going up in price. People are going to run out of foodstamps quicker and thrn what are they going to do ? Give them more foodstamps?
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The food stamp program has turned out to be another government boondoggle as it is. Many people on food stamps shouldn't be there and the program should be for healthy food not junk food.
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I know people that are on foodstamps and also work under the table making $10-$18 an HOUR! and they get $400 in FS! Some of them even told me they get so much stamps that they would never use them all so they have their freinds go shopping with them so their friend can shop with their stamps and they pay her $50 for $100 in food stamps! No use of turning any of them in thou, because they dont do any thing about it..... No, I havent called in on them but their Family members have! We have such a great system here, now dont we? :angry7: :BangHead:
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My mother who is 79 years old and lives alone and draws very little ss went to see about getting food stamps. Well she got $14. a month. You have to get all your bills together and drive to the office and then she feels ashamed anyway for asking and she only gets $14. I know young people who have 5 or more kids and just keep having them just so they can get more gov. assisantance. If you are unmarried with no job there shoulh be a cut off point as to how long you can continue you get asst.
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I sure hope this don't happen,,,,,,,,, :bs:
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I read an article today that said in some states, food stamps can be used at places like KFC, Taco Bell, Pizza Hut, and they are lobbying to allow this in more states. They idea behind it is to allow those who are homeless or not able to cook a meal a place to get hot food instead of buying chips and candy bars.
What do you all think about this?
I don't like it but their a lot of new legislation that I don't care for these days. It seems like it will only encourage more abuse of the system. Fast food is not that nutritious and it is taxed. Food stamps don't pay for tax, so what about that condition. Maybe if it was for real food like salad, oatmeal with fruit, but then there go the rules again. I don't know how it would be fair.
BMaston12
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I think there should be restrictions on the kind of food that can be redeemed by food stamps. The intent of the food stamp program is to provide nutrition for those who are financially challenged. Chips and other junk food are not nutritious and actually detrimental to physical health. I am a little ambivalent about the restaurant feature but can see a lot of potential for unhealthy choices, which again would take away from the intent of the program.
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I don't think it's a good idea because it would cause a family to go to restaurants (like golden corral--they're like $10 per person) a family of 4 would spend $40 and that would cause familes to be short on groceries each month.
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I have a hard time with this, I want to scream NO WAY, but I also don't want homeless people going hungry. But then again how are homeless people even getting to these fast food places? In my state, Michigan, they are allowing it already, but I also just read that they are getting ready to stop it next month, so guess it didn't work as they thought already.
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I don't think it's a good idea because it would cause a family to go to restaurants (like golden corral--they're like $10 per person) a family of 4 would spend $40 and that would cause familes to be short on groceries each month.
Some families may limit or not go to restaurants so they could buy more groceries.
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NO WAY!! I work and live on a tight budget, therefore I don't eat out often because it isn't in the budget. If people are getting food stamps then they should only be able to use them at GROCERY stores. Why should they be able to go and have a burger and fries and soda at a fast food place?? Use the food stamps to buy at grocery store and fix them at home!!
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seriously? no..
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I didn't know that this was possible. I hear about how people abuse the food stamps all the time. I hope this isn't going to happen.
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Those who are lobbying to allow food stamps for the purchase of fast food based on the premise that the homeless would have the opportunity to buy a hot meal do not have a very strong case. In the state that I live in, it is required that any recipient of food stamps (or quest cards) have a home address.
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I don't think it's a terrible idea. Of course people can always screw it up or take advantage. I think if fs could be used to buy prepared hot foods that would help homeless or people who can't cook. KFC isn't so bad, just not McDs.
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I think this is horrible, the food stamp program is already being abused.
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stupid idea
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You can not buy food from fast food places with food stamps. If this being done then report it because it is not considered in the SNAP Program. Sto p complaining about things and do something about it.
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That angers me!!!!
For one who has been on Food Stamps. I have seen a lot.
It is horrible what I see people buying... It seriously angers me.
They are getting help from the State they should be ONLY able to buy healthy food.
Nutritious food!! Just as they do with WIC Woman Infant and Children. They have stipulations on what they can and have to purchase. They are healthy foods.
I truly hope that is not serious. It will only make people either feed their children or families even less healthy then some do now. And to think that it would be fast food.. sad.
*now that I think about it. I do know that they can purchase only take and bake pizza NOT one prepared. One you cook at home.
Interesting topic. Thank you for the information.
Happy earnings!! :thumbsup:
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If it angers you then if you see someone doing this then report it. What is misinformation is that people are making up things saying people are doing this or they see this happen and not report it. You want things to happen in GOV the right way then report things. Be consistent on what and when you seen this happen.
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I have heard that SOME states allow folks to use food stamps/ebt/SNAP benefits at fast food vendors. Pretty sure this is factual, but not all that common as individual states can regulate that aspect, and not many allow it. Personally I don't care what foods they buy as long as it is FOOD and alcohol, beer, and other garbage. I also strongly support efforts to have EVERY beneficiary of ANY and ALL government hand outs be drug tested on a regular basis!
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I also strongly support efforts to have EVERY beneficiary of ANY and ALL government hand outs be drug tested on a regular basis!
Does that include Wall Street bankers?
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Wall Street 'bankers' or anyone else that receives any form of government (YOUR) money! Be they subsidized farmers or indigent drifters, I want them drug tested. That answer your question? ;D
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Yeah let them use it for mcdonalds. Then when they run out of foodstamps then what are you going to do? This is pathetic.
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Wall Street 'bankers' or anyone else that receives any form of government (YOUR) money! Be they subsidized farmers or indigent drifters, I want them drug tested. That answer your question? ;D
Senators, congressmen, generals, ceos--drug test 'em all! ;)
They do more damage to society than someone who's living on the streets.
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I'm not sure if this will pass. I highly doubt fast food restaurants or full service restaurants will accept this idea. I'm on food stamps as well.
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I don't feel it should be allowed. I know many hard working people who do not get any assistance and they can't afford to go to fast food places to eat, why should the ones who don't work or earn their assistance get to! It isn't right! :sad1:
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Doesn't make sense----their food stamps wouldn't last them a week. Fast food's expensive.
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My family also does utilize the program and I believe that the idea for drug testing for qualification is a great idea. It is my opinion that if anyone would have a problem with testing then maybe their is a reason behind that they do not want to admit. This is the D&D Forum - so go ahead.
I also believe that you have to be 18 to qualify for the program so we are all adults here. We know our monthly allotment and if fast food were allowed, you know what it takes to stretch those stamps out for a month until they hit again. When they are gone, they are gone. Budgeting is your own responsibility. We should look at our stamps just like cash. If you can afford to enjoy a Taco Bell or Mickey D's once or twice a month and still make it through the month, isn't that your option? But if that Mac meal with fries means the 20th of the month hits and you are hearing an echo in the fridge....hmmmmm...rethink.
And do not assume that all on the program are not working or earning their assistance. For a great many it is supplemental or a great help to the disabled who cannot work.
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I think that's crazy!!! :bs:
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I read an article today that said in some states, food stamps can be used at places like KFC, Taco Bell, Pizza Hut, and they are lobbying to allow this in more states. They idea behind it is to allow those who are homeless or not able to cook a meal a place to get hot food instead of buying chips and candy bars.
What do you all think about this?
Food Stamps should NOT be allowed to be used for fast food. I thought you had to have an address to be able to apply thus eliminating the homeless from getting a card. As a matter of fact I know the app asks for an address. And a phone number. You have to be able to get mail. They have to be able to contact you. That is how you get your PIN and card. So if you are "homeless" you have no address and NO way to get the card.
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personally i dont think that you should buy junk with your helping hand. you should use it as a way to feed your family good food and not a bunch of sugar and grease just because you can. i dont buy things that i would classify as highly greasy and fattening all the time it should be a treat and not an everyday meal choice.
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In Maryland it will not happen here at any deli if its homemade you have to pay cash like potatoe salad , or pasta salad and so on but you can buy crabs from a crab truck they accept food stamps but they won't cook them for you they are live crabs and you have to take them home and cook them.
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I feel that the foodstamps should not be used on fast food. I seen a while back that someone had used their foodstamps to buy lobster and other expensive things. It is there to help keep food in their house.
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wtf? they should start accepting wic at mcdonald's ...
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I think a lot more research needs to go into the food stamp program before any laws are passed. the system needs fixed now.
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I think a lot of people do not know how to shop for groceries to last the month. The thing is though some do not care that the amounts they spend on one or two items could buy a whole weeks worth of groceries sometimes. Then as a result they run out of food before the month is over. There should be a class available to take for those people maybe? :-\
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I feel if they can eat a restaurant and use tjeir foodstamps it is immorally wrong. The need to get a job.This is the taxpayers money.