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I think Obama change his stand on gay marriage! Just to get the gay vote.!! If he really felt the gay marriage was a good thing why do you always say no until election time!!? He's doing it just to win the election of gay voters and think that he is so open-minded to accept anybody and everybody in the the world. He is just trying to look like a man that he every allows even though he is a biggest loser there ever had in the post-presidency of the United States! It is what I think he is one of the worst president even worse than Nixon who got kicked out modeling exited that much went wrong. Whatever else is doing and he got caught. Can you think of any other reason for Obama to change his mind about gay marriage battle at this time I am other than trying to get the gay student and people listen people to vote for him and show that he is open-minded and painted.
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This could backfire on him and bite him in the *bleep* come election day.. I agree it is a political ploy. Having a stand on something is a far cry from sucessfully pushing it through and making it a national law. Each State has it's own jurisdiction in that matter. So I hope nobody buys into that or gets their hopes up.
Throw this one in the bucket with all of "Obammy's" other failed promises. :bs:
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i think that you can't help who you fall in love with. So I support.
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I REALLY THINK THAT THIS IS REALLY A BAD CHOICE ON HIS PART, REALLY THINK HE IS TRYING TO GET THE GAY VOTE, BUT FOR OTHERS TO BELIEVE IN MARRIAGE BETWEEN
A MAN AND WOMEN AS GOD HAS INTENDED IT IS NOT GOING TO WIN HIM VOTES.
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lol. ohh, just lol... :P
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Nothing more than a campaign tactic. Kinda pathetic actually.
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lol..
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No gay marriage, please
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No gay marriage, please
And what is wrong with us wanting to get married? Is it really so bad that those of us that love the same sex want to be able to legally get married to that person. Why is the US so afraid of this, it isn't like we are trying to take over the world or trying to turn everyone into gays and lesbians and what not. I mean, honestly, what is everyone afraid of. Doesn't everyone deserve equal rights!!! I :heart: :female:
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i think it was time for someone to say that inequality wasnt right
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You're wrong! The biggest loser in the White House was George Bush Jr. Remember him? Yeah the guy who tanked the economy by spending all that bleep money in Iraq instead of watching out for us. Obama may not be a prize but no way in bleep is he the biggest loser. :angry7:
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I never thought of Obama would consider gay marriage and agree on it, who would of known.. :o
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You're wrong! The biggest loser in the White House was George Bush Jr. Remember him? Yeah the guy who tanked the economy by spending all that bleep money in Iraq instead of watching out for us. Obama may not be a prize but no way in bleep is he the biggest loser. :angry7:
I disagree with that unemployments has gone way up, there are a lot and I mean millions of illegal immigrants living off this government getting food stamps, cash, and also claiming kids on tax reforms that live in mexico, and some dont have kids but getting like 10,000 or more back from OUR GOVERNMENT no wonder why we are in the mess we are in also Obama did so many bailouts, and I personnally know a few people who did the if you buy a house you get $8,000 refund on your tax return and they did not get a house they bought a car and live in a boarding house give me a break people need to really look at what is happening and has been happening SINCE Obama got in office
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he should be impeached and booted out NOW.
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I believe what the bible says about marriage
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There is no reason anyone should oppose gay marriage. =/ If marriage were strictly a religious thing, I would not be married because I do not believe in religion. It's a shame how narrow minded people can be. The time for equality for many of my friends and family members will come, but it is a shame that day is not today. Gay marriage is also not something that should be up to a vote. Civil rights is not something that should be voted on. Would Americans have voted to end slavery during the civil war? Unlikely. Just coexists and love one another - hatred and fear will get us no where. :'(
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It is definitely a political stunt when his position "evolved" into the support he just announced.... He didn't have the guts in the past to come right out and say he supported gay marriage, but rather gave a wishy-washy answer whenever that question was posed to him.
I also think that this is a fairly worthless position for a presidential candidate to have (whatever side of the issue they are on). As mentioned above, this should really be an issue left to the states. The only thing that a president should argue for is that the federal government uphold all decisions made by the states. Thus if a state decide to impart the status of marriage between two gay people or a group of polygamists or whatever, then the federal government should abide by that decision, and impart all benefits at the federal level to that marriage.
Now as we head into the political season, and if this becomes more of an issue among the candidates, remember that this should be purely an issue about the legal term of marriage and the benefits given to people involved in a marriage. This should not be about limiting people's rights to freely associate with whomever they want. This should not be an issue as to the government saying who you can love, have a relationship with, live together with, etc. but rather should be about the legal rights that married couples have like the tax considerations, rights of survivorship, etc. Whether gay relationships should be legal is an issue about people's rights to associate whereas arguments about whether to impart the benefits of marriage to a gay couple is an issue about people's privilege to marry.
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:bootyshake: To me, that is totally a *bleep* idea. Do you handle all your feelings when you saw your boyfriend with a man who doing something as he did with you? I will say my boyfriend, or my fiance, or my husband is a normal man, including mental and physical, he is a perfect without even a doubt. What is the hell you have done to him? He all the time has gone through with me till supreme of happiness and satisfaction. I have no doubt at all about his family tree and historical gene, even his family's life conditions. From the past till now, and in the future, there is no way he need others, even a man. :notworthy:
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I think President Obama was speaking from the heart when he stood up in support of gay marriage. He stood up in the same way that John F Kennedy did against segregation and Jim Crow practices in America in the 60's. Someone had to take a stand against what is happening to people in the Gay community. Gay youths are being bullied to the point of committing suicide far too much. Gay married couples aren't getting divorced at a faster rate than they are getting married. They are not abusing and murdering their partners at the rate straight people are. How hypocritical! I think Americans have seen so much hypocrisy in government leaders in the past until they wouldn't even be able to recognize a leader who really truly cares about bettering the lives of ALL Americans. Maybe a better choice to lead the country would be Mitt Romney ,who reportedly brutally harassed his Gay classmate when he was a teen. I am a christian and straight but I cant agree with the treatment Gay people have to endure in this country. I don't think Jesus would either.
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It just shows what a politician will do for a vote. :(
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:male: :male: :female: :female: :female: :male:I have never found a place in the bible where we are told to judge how others live their lives or that says no gay marraige. If you don't like gay marriage, then don't marry a gay person, but we should not be denying an entire group of people basic civil rights.
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Of course it's political- he's a politician. But, he said the right thing. Kudos to the pres on this one.
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:male: :male: :female: :female: :female: :male:I have never found a place in the bible where we are told to judge how others live their lives or that says no gay marraige. If you don't like gay marriage, then don't marry a gay person, but we should not be denying an entire group of people basic civil rights.
Marriage is not a civil right, it is a privilege. Also, can I get all beef vegetarian dishes?
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I believe also what the bible says God is against gay marriage truly we are to love everyone but sin is sin and two women or two men in trying to marry each other will be judged when the time comes. Yes Obama i believe may was trying to get more votes or was told to say this who knows only the ones that was there. I myself love everyone whether I know you or not whether race or religion or not I LOVE EVERYONE and I hope no one takes anything people say to the :heart: :wave:
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:male: :male: :female: :female: :female: :male:I have never found a place in the bible where we are told to judge how others live their lives or that says no gay marraige. If you don't like gay marriage, then don't marry a gay person, but we should not be denying an entire group of people basic civil rights.
Marriage is not a civil right, it is a privilege.
This might be an extrapolation in an unforseen direction however, it could be that the "civil rights" portion doesn't necessarily refer to getting married but, to such 'rights and privileges as accrue to a being married', (like tax and other federal benefits not covered by either "domestic partnerships" or "civil unions")?
Also, can I get all beef vegetarian dishes?
"We've got SPAM, SPAM, sausage, SPAM, eggs, SPAM, SPAM and SPAM.
-'Have you got anything without SPAM in it?'
"Well, we've got SPAM, biscuits, SPAM, toast and SPAM. That hasn't got much SPAM in it." - from Monty Python
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If you don't believe that gay people should be allowed to get married, then you don't truly believe in freedom. Go live somewhere else. :P
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I believe also what the bible says God is against gay marriage truly we are to love everyone but sin is sin and two women or two men in trying to marry each other will be judged when the time comes.
Or, not "judged" if your belief is in error, (despite your presumed belief that it isn't, others presume no such thing). Further, such remarks about 'not judging' are hypocritically judgemental in a passive-aggressive way. That's alright though, everyone "judges" - including the ones who proclaim that they don't. Whether such "judgements" are accurate or not is a whole different matter.
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:male: :male: :female: :female: :female: :male:I have never found a place in the bible where we are told to judge how others live their lives or that says no gay marraige. If you don't like gay marriage, then don't marry a gay person, but we should not be denying an entire group of people basic civil rights.
Honestly,have you ever read the Bible?
Leviticus 18:22 “‘Do not have sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman; that is detestable."
Romans 1:26-27 "Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones. In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error."
Jude 1:7 "In a similar way, Sodom and Gomorrah and the surrounding towns gave themselves up to sexual immorality and perversion. They serve as an example of those who suffer the punishment of eternal fire."
Do I really need to go on? ::)
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Leviticus 18:22 “‘Do not have sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman; that is detestable."
Romans 1:26-27 "Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones. In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error."
Jude 1:7 "In a similar way, Sodom and Gomorrah and the surrounding towns gave themselves up to sexual immorality and perversion. They serve as an example of those who suffer the punishment of eternal fire."
Do I really need to go on? ::)
Nope, you've managed to portray your hypothetical 'deity' as a vengerful homophobe sufficiently enough to wonder about you.
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Don't get me wrong, I don't have a firm stand either way. I know a good number of my gay friends, male and female that are in high positions professionally that they obtained through competency (not affirmative action). In fact as far as ones livliehood, and also housing it is illegal to discriminate based on sexual preference along with other protected groups. Also many private and government agencies have instituted "domestic partner" benefits..health dental vision, etc. So it's not like gays are totally without rights. As a nation we are growing in tolerance for gays and other once taboo things like interracial marriage. I too agree that people have the right love, be with, sleep with etc whoever they wish. But the topic of marriage between same sex couples is still a hot button topic, although there are 6 states that allow it. and anyone can go to that state to marry. So no one should act like gays cannot be married..they can! The problem is, that under educated or shallow thinking people won't have the mental capacity to look deeper and understand that gays are NOT TOTALLY PROHIBITED from marriage. Those types (and some who have commented on this post) will jump on this as "Oh this poor minority group is oppressed, and can't have the same rights as others" Why people will do this without looking deeper I have no clue!!! :BangHead:
That being said, it makes no sense for a President to come out in favor of anything he as no control over.. It's phony, and the timing makes it suspicious, especially since he has always been wishy washy on the subject when asked in the past.
This coming from a man who once made the comment "I wouldn't want my daughter "punished" with a baby. This statement was made during a campaign event where he was discussing sex education, (which includes information on family planning birth control, abortion and STD prevention) stating that "it makes sense to give them "information." So then once you have an accidental pregnancy, and from a sex education perspective, what information would you have been given that would permanently eliminate this "punishment" that you face? Not hard to connect those dots!! I guess it didn't matter that the "punishment" would be his grandchild!.. That's when I knew he was slime and lost all respect for him. This was said while he was running for president. Since then, I've never put faith in a single thing he said. His current comment is no exception :bootyshake:
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Don't get me wrong, I don't have a firm stand either way. I know a good number of my gay friends, male and female that are in high positions professionally that they obtained through competency (not affirmative action). In fact as far as ones livliehood, and also housing it is illegal to discriminate based on sexual preference along with other protected groups. Also many private and government agencies have instituted "domestic partner" benefits..health dental vision, etc. So it's not like gays are totally without rights.
This might be an extrapolation in an unforseen direction however, it could be that the "rights" portion doesn't necessarily refer to getting married but, to such 'rights and privileges as accrue to a being married', (like tax and other federal benefits not covered by either "domestic partnerships" or "civil unions")?
As a nation we are growing in tolerance for gays and other once taboo things like interracial marriage. I too agree that people have the right love, be with, sleep with etc whoever they wish. But the topic of marriage between same sex couples is still a hot button topic, although there are 6 states that allow it. and anyone can go to that state to marry. So no one should act like gays cannot be married..they can! The problem is, that under educated or shallow thinking people won't have the mental capacity to look deeper and understand that gays are NOT TOTALLY PROHIBITED from marriage. Those types (and some who have commented on this post) will jump on this as "Oh this poor minority group is oppressed, and can't have the same rights as others" Why people will do this without looking deeper I have no clue!!! :BangHead:
That being said, it makes no sense for a President to come out in favor of anything he as no control over.. It's phony, and the timing makes it suspicious, especially since he has always been wishy washy on the subject when asked in the past.
This coming from a man who once made the comment "I wouldn't want my daughter "punished" with a baby. This statement was made during a campaign event where he was discussing sex education, (which includes information on family planning birth control, abortion and STD prevention) stating that "it makes sense to give them "information." So then once you have an accidental pregnancy, and from a sex education perspective, what information would you have been given that would permanently eliminate this "punishment" that you face? Not hard to connect those dots!! I guess it didn't matter that the "punishment" would be his grandchild!.. That's when I knew he was slime and lost all respect for him. This was said while he was running for president. Since then, I've never put faith in a single thing he said. His current comment is no exception :bootyshake:
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Lol. . .
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It's about time a president supports this issue. Whats the big deal anyway? They should have always had the same rights as everyone else.
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It's about time a president supports this issue. Whats the big deal anyway? They should have always had the same rights as everyone else.
What about a redneck who wants to marry their truck?
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I wonder where in the Constitution that it says gays have a right to marry. I must have missed that somehow. Obama actually was for gay marriage until he ran for the Senate and then he was against it. Now he's for it again. That's generally called flip-flopping but in his case it's called evolving. I know this because he says it over and over.
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I think Obama talks out of two sides of his face. He will say whatever he thinks he needs to get re-elected, whether he believes it or not. Most politicians do. :BangHead:
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I think Obama talks out of two sides of his face. He will say whatever he thinks he needs to get re-elected, whether he believes it or not. Most politicians do. :BangHead:
Obama doesn't know what he believes so how can we?? It is definitely another campaign speech and he has not really stopped making those since he first ran for president. He does more flip-flopping than John Kerry and that's pretty bad! I just hope and pray that all the Americans that vote see through his lies and I hope the gays don't fall for his latest flip-flop. I can't understand how he ever got elected in the first place; he had no experience and was already known for being extremely liberal but its just like Bill Clinton getting elected when he had so many moral issues that came to the forefront when he was running. God help us all if Obama gets re-elected cause we ain't seen nothing yet!
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I love Obama!!! Whether is supports gay marriage or even if he was against he can't make all of the people happy all of the time. Hmmm that is any other president for that matter! i hate politics but sure love my president. GoBama!!!!!!!! :heart: :heart: :heart: :heart: :heart: :heart: :heart: :heart: :heart: :heart: :heart: :heart:
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:male: :male: :female: :female: :female: :male:I have never found a place in the bible where we are told to judge how others live their lives or that says no gay marraige. If you don't like gay marriage, then don't marry a gay person, but we should not be denying an entire group of people basic civil rights.
Honestly,have you ever read the Bible?
Leviticus 18:22 “‘Do not have sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman; that is detestable."
Romans 1:26-27 "Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones. In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error."
Jude 1:7 "In a similar way, Sodom and Gomorrah and the surrounding towns gave themselves up to sexual immorality and perversion. They serve as an example of those who suffer the punishment of eternal fire."
Do I really need to go on? ::)
You CAN'T "go on" because that is all there is in the entire Bible pertaining to Homosexuality. Yet, some clueless folk that know nothing of true Christianity get up in arms. Where is the outrage and protest in front of tattoo parlors???
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It is a sad day in America. Our Christian values are being attacked daily.
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It is a sad day in America. Our Christian values are being attacked daily.
Your presumption is offensive. Not everyone has xtian "values"; some have values which are just as 'moral' and 'ethical' as ones appropriated as religious "values".
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:male: :male: :female: :female: :female: :male:I have never found a place in the bible where we are told to judge how others live their lives or that says no gay marraige. If you don't like gay marriage, then don't marry a gay person, but we should not be denying an entire group of people basic civil rights.
Honestly,have you ever read the Bible?
Leviticus 18:22 “‘Do not have sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman; that is detestable."
Romans 1:26-27 "Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones. In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error."
Jude 1:7 "In a similar way, Sodom and Gomorrah and the surrounding towns gave themselves up to sexual immorality and perversion. They serve as an example of those who suffer the punishment of eternal fire."
Do I really need to go on? ::)
You CAN'T "go on" because that is all there is in the entire Bible pertaining to Homosexuality. Yet, some clueless folk that know nothing of true Christianity get up in arms. Where is the outrage and protest in front of tattoo parlors???
1 Timothy 8-11 "We know that the law is good if one uses it properly. We also know that the law is made not for the righteous but for lawbreakers and rebels, the ungodly and sinful, the unholy and irreligious, for those who kill their fathers or mothers, for murderers, for the sexually immoral, for those practicing homosexuality, for slave traders and liars and perjurers—and for whatever else is contrary to the sound doctrine that conforms to the gospel concerning the glory of the blessed God, which he entrusted to me. "
Leviticus 20 13 “‘If a man has sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They are to be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads."
As you can see I COULD go on.The point isn't how many times it's said.Even if God had only said it once it would be reason enough to take notice.But it's impossible for anyone to say God hasn't forbidden the practice in the strongest terms possible.
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:male: :male: :female: :female: :female: :male:I have never found a place in the bible where we are told to judge how others live their lives or that says no gay marraige. If you don't like gay marriage, then don't marry a gay person, but we should not be denying an entire group of people basic civil rights.
Honestly,have you ever read the Bible?
Leviticus 18:22 “‘Do not have sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman; that is detestable."
Romans 1:26-27 "Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones. In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error."
Jude 1:7 "In a similar way, Sodom and Gomorrah and the surrounding towns gave themselves up to sexual immorality and perversion. They serve as an example of those who suffer the punishment of eternal fire."
Do I really need to go on? ::)
You CAN'T "go on" because that is all there is in the entire Bible pertaining to Homosexuality. Yet, some clueless folk that know nothing of true Christianity get up in arms. Where is the outrage and protest in front of tattoo parlors???
1 Timothy 8-11 "We know that the law is good if one uses it properly. We also know that the law is made not for the righteous but for lawbreakers and rebels, the ungodly and sinful, the unholy and irreligious, for those who kill their fathers or mothers, for murderers, for the sexually immoral, for those practicing homosexuality, for slave traders and liars and perjurers—and for whatever else is contrary to the sound doctrine that conforms to the gospel concerning the glory of the blessed God, which he entrusted to me. "
Leviticus 20 13 “‘If a man has sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They are to be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads."
As you can see I COULD go on.The point isn't how many times it's said.Even if God had only said it once it would be reason enough to take notice.But it's impossible for anyone to say God hasn't forbidden the practice in the strongest terms possible.
Why aren't tattoos illegal? Is it because we are a smart enough society to know that we need not govern ourselves based solely on the words of A BOOK?
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1 Timothy 8-11
Leviticus 20 13
As you can see I COULD go on.
With your bible-thumping evangelism? Of that, there is no doubt.
The point isn't how many times it's said.
If not, why keep bible-thumping?
Even if God had only said it once it would be reason enough to take notice.
There's exactly zero evidence that "g-d" said anything, (hearsay accounts in a document of religious doctrines does not constitute such evidence).
But it's impossible for anyone to say God hasn't forbidden the practice in the strongest terms possible.
Not only is that possible, I'll say/type it right here; the hearsay accounts of religious doctrines do not constitute evidence that some hypothetical being has "forbidden" anything. Such restrictions have been attributed to hypothetical beings in an anthropomorphic manner by religious adherents and there is no evidence to support some contention that these derived from some supernatural stenographic dictation notes.
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Why aren't tattoos illegal? Is it because we are a smart enough society to know that we need not govern ourselves based solely on the words of A BOOK?
Mein Kampf is a book too. If one is not a neo-national-socialist, why would they follow the beliefs expressed in it? Now apply that concept to inerrant-bible believers for consideration.
-[n.a.z.i. got *bleeped* as inappropriate and yet 'faith' gets a pass ... that's hilarious]-
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Why aren't tattoos illegal? Is it because we are a smart enough society to know that we need not govern ourselves based solely on the words of A BOOK?
Mein Kampf is a book too. If one is not a neo-national-socialist, why would they follow the beliefs expressed in it? Now apply that concept to inerrant-bible believers for consideration.
-[n.a.z.i. got *bleeped* as inappropriate and yet 'faith' gets a pass ... that's hilarious]-
Bible thumper rationale....
The stuff I don't want to do anymore is outdated and only written for that time's culture. But the stuff I wanna use the bible as an excuse to hate is sacred and timeless
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Bible thumper rationale....
The stuff I don't want to do anymore is outdated and only written for that time's culture. But the stuff I wanna use the bible as an excuse to hate is sacred and timeless
Now convince one of them to admit to that bit of honesty, keeping in mind that "rationale" is not rational reasoning.
*crickets chirping*
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Right wing, left wing....same bird :fish: :cat: :bs: :bootyshake: :wave:
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:male: :male: :female: :female: :female: :male:I have never found a place in the bible where we are told to judge how others live their lives or that says no gay marraige. If you don't like gay marriage, then don't marry a gay person, but we should not be denying an entire group of people basic civil rights.
Honestly,have you ever read the Bible?
Leviticus 18:22 “‘Do not have sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman; that is detestable."
Romans 1:26-27 "Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones. In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error."
Jude 1:7 "In a similar way, Sodom and Gomorrah and the surrounding towns gave themselves up to sexual immorality and perversion. They serve as an example of those who suffer the punishment of eternal fire."
Do I really need to go on? ::)
You CAN'T "go on" because that is all there is in the entire Bible pertaining to Homosexuality. Yet, some clueless folk that know nothing of true Christianity get up in arms. Where is the outrage and protest in front of tattoo parlors???
1 Timothy 8-11 "We know that the law is good if one uses it properly. We also know that the law is made not for the righteous but for lawbreakers and rebels, the ungodly and sinful, the unholy and irreligious, for those who kill their fathers or mothers, for murderers, for the sexually immoral, for those practicing homosexuality, for slave traders and liars and perjurers—and for whatever else is contrary to the sound doctrine that conforms to the gospel concerning the glory of the blessed God, which he entrusted to me. "
Leviticus 20 13 “‘If a man has sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They are to be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads."
As you can see I COULD go on.The point isn't how many times it's said.Even if God had only said it once it would be reason enough to take notice.But it's impossible for anyone to say God hasn't forbidden the practice in the strongest terms possible.
Why aren't tattoos illegal? Is it because we are a smart enough society to know that we need not govern ourselves based solely on the words of A BOOK?
The verse you're referring to (Leviticus 19:28 “‘Do not cut your bodies for the dead or put tattoo marks on yourselves. I am the Lord.") was-in context-about God forbidding the people of Israel from following the funeral rites of the pagan nations around them.It was not an express command against the practice of tattooing in general.Apples & Oranges.
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I hate how he is being put on a pedestal for this when he obviously is just trying to get a vote! Regardless of how one feels about gay marriage, shouldnt it be pretty obvious that he is just saying what he thinks will get him the vote? and, what does that say about him?
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Why aren't tattoos illegal? Is it because we are a smart enough society to know that we need not govern ourselves based solely on the words of A BOOK?
Mein Kampf is a book too. If one is not a neo-national-socialist, why would they follow the beliefs expressed in it? Now apply that concept to inerrant-bible believers for consideration.
-[n.a.z.i. got *bleeped* as inappropriate and yet 'faith' gets a pass ... that's hilarious]-
Bible thumper rationale....
The stuff I don't want to do anymore is outdated and only written for that time's culture. But the stuff I wanna use the bible as an excuse to hate is sacred and timeless
How is that out dated?God still doesn't want people to follow pagen funeral rites.....
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Obama couldnt tell the truth if it was right in front of him he will do anything to try to win this election the country means nothing but if there is an opportunity to campaign on our money he will do it
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God still doesn't want people to follow pagen funeral rites.....
And you know this, how? Btw, it's "pagan" funeral rites - like those which were around for tens of thousands of years before xtianity's equally 'religious' funerary rituals.
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Everything he does is just in an attempt to get votes. He's not even doing a good job in that regard much less in any other regard. The one thing about him changing his stance on any issue is that we can't trust anything he has ever said. So why would we trust him when changes his stance?
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Everything he does is just in an attempt to get votes. He's not even doing a good job in that regard much less in any other regard. The one thing about him changing his stance on any issue is that we can't trust anything he has ever said. So why would we trust him when changes his stance?
Why trust any politician who does the same, (and since they all do, aren't the questions rhetorical)?
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I totally agree with you. His decision was only a ploy in his election strategy
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I agree it's politics.I do not personally believe in gay marriage.And I understand everyone should be with someone they love.But I do not think we were put here to be with the same sex.I do agree it will backfire on him.I hope he does't get it anyway.
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I don't believe that President Barack Obama changed his views to get more votes. He doesn't need the votes because he has little to no competition worries. The Republicans have ruined Mit Romney's chance by trying to get a gaggle of incompetents put in to place ahead of him and still can't put the full strength of their vote behind Romney(most likely because of his religious preference). If anything, Obama, may have decreased the net vote count because of the number of people who will back away from him exceeding the number of votes that he would get from the gay population. Gay is not my way but I believe that people who are gay have the right to have their say.
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I support this you should be able to be with whoever u want u cant help how you love? And its a bold move with elections coming up we will see how it goes but at the end of the day I think its a good thing to support!!!
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I don't believe in the gay marriage bit. But if it should get passed then they should be taxed the same way we as married couples do. Please don't cram this down my throat. And don't expect me to pay for aids if they get it. God help us all.
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I don't believe in the gay marriage bit. But if it should get passed then they should be taxed the same way we as married couples do.
Taxed, as in getting the same federal and state tax benefits for filing jointly that other married people filing jointly get now?
Please don't cram this down my throat. God help us all.
Please don't "cram" 'g-d'-mongering down anyone else's throat in return.