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So....thoughts on it being legalized?
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Why not? Although it should be sold in stores just like alcohol, then it will get taxed and help our debt. problem if only by a little. I must say though that I was surprised when I heard it had passed in Co. and WA., especially when people have been trying to get medicinal marijuana passed for years. :peace:
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I see nothing wrong with the legalization of marijuana. You want to smoke pot, go right ahead. HOWEVER... be prepared - your stash will be of a lower quality, have unwanted chemicals, will cost you more, and will be taxed, taxed, taxed. You can also expect LOTS of others to be "complaining" about YOUR personal habits. Pot smokers will now be the new and improved cigarette smokers. Lotsa luck with that.
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I have no problem with it. I am however allergic to it. For some reason it triggers lupus flare for me. And we thought it might help with pain lol! No such luck for me !
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I think it is great.
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I heard it will be legalized in 48 out of 50 states..? any clues?
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I personally don't have a problem with it!! I personally don't use it because of allegies to it. I tried it in my younger years and I did not have a good reaction to it! I would not count on it staying legal, federal law "always" trumps state law. And there has already been talk in Fed areas that the states that just passed the law will not be able to be enforced! Who knows - I guess the next few months will tell. It still remains a federal crime to possess or use Marijuana.
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I personally don't have a problem with it!! I personally don't use it because of allegies to it. I tried it in my younger years and I did not have a good reaction to it! I would not count on it staying legal, federal law "always" trumps state law. And there has already been talk in Fed areas that the states that just passed the law will not be able to be enforced! Who knows - I guess the next few months will tell. It still remains a federal crime to possess or use Marijuana.
The only reason that it is legal in California is that it has a medical reasoning behind the law in cal. The new one's that passed on election ballots is for recreational use.
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Why not, its up to the person using it how to control him/herself, just remember always that too much is bad for the body.
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It didn't pass in Oregon...bummer. But we do have medical marijuana...I live in the country and when you look on google maps nearly every other house is growing. We're on the right track. It should be legalized and taxed. Smoking marijuana has been around since the indians...and probably before...and will be around for as long as there is earth.
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YAY to the states that legalized pot! Imagine if everyone smoked......this world would be such a happy, laid back place where there would be no talk or action of war, terrorism and such like. ;D
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nothing to say on the subject?
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i think it's absurd that small substance crimes (marijuana)
are a contributing factor to prisons being overrun.
legalize it, tax it if you must, and let everyone be happy :icon_rr:
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I wrote a very extensive and researched post on another thread in this forum criticizing the criminalization of marijuana. Hardly anyone commented any substantial counter argument, which leads me to conclude that the general census (at least on this forum) is that we should legalize marijuana. The main problem is that the people creating the laws (like they so frequently do) just shut their ears and pretend to not hear anyone but themselves or their special interest.
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I say make it legal. Everyone is smoking weed any way for their own personal use..... :angel12:
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I think right now its is too broad of a step to try to legalize marijuana for recreational use. However, I don't see any reason why every state has not legalized marijuana for medicinal use.
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I think it should be!!!
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I think right now its is too broad of a step to try to legalize marijuana for recreational use. However, I don't see any reason why every state has not legalized marijuana for medicinal use.
Why is it a broad step? So because the government has failed to use science and reasoning to make adequate changes to laws that where originally created because of racism, we should not legalize marijuana for personal use even though there is no evidence at all (None, not a bit, nada, zip, not a single shred) that is can not only cause someone to cause harm to others but also case harm to one self (which is a completely illogical reason to make something illegal)?
There are countless drugs with similar effects that marijuana induces that is perfectly and completely legal. Alcohol, Caffeine, and tobacco are proven to cause harm to one's self and yet they are legal. Alcohol is proven (in sufficient quantities) that it can cause someone to harm someone else, and yet they are legal. Our laws not only need conciseness, they have to make logical sense. What logical sense is there to make marijuana illegal? That it makes people calmer, happier, with less pain, and cannot under any circumstance cause and overdose?
It is not to broad a step to legalize marijuana. It was already a broad step to make it illegal, and its a broad step to continue making it illegal considering the overwhelming numbers of victimless crimes being committed and perfectly healthy non-violent people are being thrown in jail. What do putting these people in prison accomplish? Do you think once they're out they'll stop using marijuana and become perfectly happy civilians? More than likely they'll either continue to use pot (there fore wasting tax payer money, people's time, and taking away 6 months to many years of a non-violent human being) or being in jail made them more susceptible to violent tendencies.
Its time to end this madness, and that time is now.
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HMMMMM, interesting question. It wouldnt bother me although I dont use it. I know some people who do and seem to function better with marijuana then alcohol. Our state just turned into a no smoking state so it would be interesting how they would handle that.
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So....thoughts on it being legalized?
Its about time this country followed the footsteps of other countries around the world, including Canada and the Netherlands.
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Singers smoke it
And players of instrument too
Legalize it, yeah, yeah
That's the best thing you can do
Doctors smoke it
Nurses smoke it
Judges smoke it
Even the lawyer too
So you've got to legalize it
And don't criticize it
Legalize it, yeah, yeah
And I will advertise it
~ Bob Marley
I do agree :thumbsup:
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I think now that it's legal people aren't gonna want to try it nearly as much and it's gonna be taxed so much that people are still gonna sell it illegally
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The war on drugs costs us a lot of money with few results. Our jails are way overcrowded we should only worry about serious offenders.
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I always say the same thing when ever I am asked this question. You can debate it all day long till you're blue in
the face but one thing stands. Would you want your 1st grader, your child, your lil sister or brother or niece or nephew
to get on the school bus when the driver has just gotten high? :-
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WHY WOULD SOMEONE SMOKE IT IF THEY CANT HANDLE HOW IT DOES TO THERE BODY? J?W
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I have absolutely no problem with it being legal; however, I completely, totally and utterly dislike the smell, one of the reasons I stay away from it and avoid being around people who use it. On the other hand, if there is, or there will ever be, an odorless kind, I'd be fine with people using it around me. It still wouldn't be for me, though. I just don't have any reasons whatsoever to use it, no pain, no sleeping problems, no unmanageable stress. Furthermore, I hate the effect it causes on me, it makes me dull, uncoordinated, clumsy, I feel stupid and tired, symptoms I don't need in my life.
Additionally, I think most of users aren't honest with themselves and everybody else, they just find these "reasons" to justify the use, when in reality, it's just an excuse, probably because they are embarrassed to admit they are addicted. If it truly was recreational, they wouldn't be looking to do it, the sooner they have the opportunity. I don't have a problem with the addiction, or the use or the user, just be honest and tell me you use it because you want to and you like it, and if you really are addicted, don't tell me it's recreational. I appreciate honesty. Having said all that, I have no objection to legalization, except perhaps, eliminating the smell out of it? lol :wave:
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i don't see why it cant be legalized all the way except the government wants money off of it. it does way less damage than alcohol and thats legal.
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Rumor has it if it is legalized it will actually go down in use because those who think it's "cool" will have lost their interest!
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Did you know? 15 of the 17 states require proof of residency to be considered a qualifying patient for medical marijuana use. Only Oregon has announced that it will accept out-of-state applications. It is unknown if Delaware will accept applications from non-state residents once the program is established.
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yesssssssssssss, i do not smoke it, but all the tax money just being wasted from not making it legal is crazy.
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I personally don't see a problem with it being legal.I've never tried it,but I think it would be a good idea to legal it because it won't kill you.And maybe if they did legal it,it mite help with others with there bigger drug addictions.like maybe if they legal pot then people mite quit the pills.
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I think it should be legalized everywheres. It's already everywheres anyway. :confused1:
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8) For once and all it should be legalized. I just don't get it - it is a natural substance and I think its horrible that people can't partake of a natural substance especially in this country - states are killing themselves to get rid of "bath salts and synthetic marijuana" why don't they wake up and see the light.
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I live in WA and have a medical lincense.It helped me alot when I was extremely ill. Does not agree with me that much now that I am better. Pretty worried about how the new laws are going to affect medical card holders.
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I think it should be legalized. If people are getting it medically and illegally then why can it be legalized? It's everywhere already!!!! :o :icon_rr:
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I really don't have an opinion about it, but I do agree that it seems the general public is happy about it. At least all over Facebook lol
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I don't think people should be able to smoke it while driving... IDK about anything else but that.
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I have nothing against it although I will never smoke it. I have never liked the smell of the smoke of things like this
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Yes I would rather be around someone who was high than drunk any day!!!!!!
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I don't think people should be able to smoke it while driving... IDK about anything else but that.
There is no scientific evidence to suggest that smoking marijuana impairs driving. At the very least, there is no evidence any more than there is evidence that smoking tobacco also impairs driving and yet its 100% legal to do while driving.
Now there is both anecdotal and empirical that suggest drinking alcohol impairs driving, and thus it should be illegal to drink and drive.
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Legalize it, it should be the same as regular cigarettes. Tax it, quit filling up the prisons with people with 1 oz. No different than smoking a cigarette. If you want it least pay taxes on it. It would drop crime rates to and it has NOT been shown to lead to bigger badder drugs.
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Might as well legalized it just like alcohol and tobacco products and tax it because people are going to use it no matter what happens.
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So....thoughts on it being legalized?
i like marijuana and thoughts on it being legalized is cool but it also seems lame cause the hype people that we know would be like cool this is legal now i should try it and they wont be hype no more so we wouldnt know where to go for fun and just be in a depression sort of state so idk ???
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I think they should legalized all that crap. People are going to use drugs no matter what, at the cost of going to jail or dying. If they just make it legal maybe some of the crime would end.
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There's literally no reason it shouldn't be legal. It's a LOT safer for you than alcohol, less harmful to your health than alcohol, cigarettes, and prescription drugs, can save the economy, etc. Not to mention, people that are just stoned are a less angry, violent, annoying, I could go on.
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Although i have never used it, my guess is it is being used anyway, tax the heck out of it. But it will still be brought over the border as user will stil be ble to get it cheaper then buying out of stores. First we need to close the borders somehow and stop the illeagle transporting of the stuff. If our prisons are so full of users and buyer, maybe change the laws about how much they can have, and treat the users that are driving (dui) as the same as drunk drivers.
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Although i have never used it, my guess is it is being used anyway, tax the heck out of it. But it will still be brought over the border as user will stil be ble to get it cheaper then buying out of stores. First we need to close the borders somehow and stop the illeagle transporting of the stuff. If our prisons are so full of users and buyer, maybe change the laws about how much they can have, and treat the users that are driving (dui) as the same as drunk drivers.
Why should we tax the hell out of it? Why should we ban the use of it while driving when its perfectly clear those driving under the influence of marijuana does not drive any worse than someone perfectly healthy? Whats so bad about marijuana that we need to treat it differently than tobacco? I don't see a lot of tobacco being trafficked, and although alcohol and tobacco are both pretty expensive they are still cheap enough that it isn't worth getting it from a source that by passes the tax laws.
You do realize the reason that marijuana is so expensive is because of the added risk of being caught and put into prison? With risk comes a price. Even if we tax it to oblivion, it will still be several hundreds of times cheaper that what it is now. Your understanding of basic economics as well as your reasoning for the taxes of marijuana to cause any real affect (at least anymore than for tobacco or alcohol) are both rather convoluted. There is no scientific basis for banning or even restricting marijuana for users over the age of 18 at all. Allowing someone to have a little bit would be a step, but it is not the final one. We should not rest until it is 100% legal for adults to own and use as much marijuana as they can afford.
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Legalize!!!
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Legalize it...and tax it. Win/win. I live in Oregon and we have medical marijuana...all my neighbors grow. I think it's safer than alcohol.
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It is still a mind altering substance..I don't think alcohol should be legal either, but hey who am I..It is what it is
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It is still a mind altering substance..I don't think alcohol should be legal either, but hey who am I..It is what it is
So what if its a mind altering substance? Anything can be a mind altering substance if you take enough of it and if its abused. Should we make cleaning products illegal, or glue illegal since they can also be abused? You do realize that none of these things harm anyone else, and that anyone who abuses these are doing so under their free will? They're victimless crimes for petes sake.
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It's about time. It's nature and it has curative properties.
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As Bill Hicks put it, making marijuana illegal is like saying God messed up. I think it should be legal and regulated like alcohol/tobacco. The War on Drugs is just another unneed expense and causing a lot more problems than they're trying to solve.
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I say legalize it! If people are going to use it they will find a way. Just like during Prohibition! We could use some on the money on the national debt!! :angel12:
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I am not a smoker, but I feel that it should be legalize. It will bring money into our economy.
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I myself do not smoke it but I can see them legalizing it. They could make some money off of it to put our country back on track. Some people use it for medical purposes and some just to get a buzz. It is not too much different than alcohol or cigarettes.
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I personally don't think it a good idea, but since society is going that way, then I'll say taxed high and do not smoke and drive, should be treated exactly like alcohol, you drive under the influence and pay the consequences of your actions.
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I personally don't think it a good idea, but since society is going that way, then I'll say taxed high and do not smoke and drive, should be treated exactly like alcohol, you drive under the influence and pay the consequences of your actions.
Even though there is no scientific evidence that smoking marijuana causes significant driving impairment. On the contrary, there is plenty of evidence that alcohol does. We should not treat these two the same because there is no reason too.
There is also no reason to tax this substance anymore than any other substance. The only reason you want to tax marijuana is because you don't believe it should be legal to begin with. This is a terrible reason to tax something, but unfortunately it'll be the next hurtle that marijuana would have to go through once it does become legal.