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I have been job hunting lately and can't figure out how people are supposed to live. First of all there aren't any jobs. In our local newspaper there are usually only 1-2 legit jobs per day. If you don't qualify or want those you have to dig deeper. It seems that all jobs that pay a living wage are for people who already have that job and have been in that job for five years or more. In other words, they don't want to train anyone to do anything. Even if you have experience they want you to already be trained on their software, computer systems, etc.
I guess it is what happens when there are so many people needing jobs. The employers can cherry pick to get exactly what they want. Great for them, but sucks for us. They can also pay $9 per hour or less. Around here it is rare for a job to pay for than that even with a degree.
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I live in a big city so there are way more jobs available but most of them are menial jobs that pay a little above minimum wage. Now that would be okay in a small town but rent here is about $900 for a decent one bedroom apartment. If it wasn't for this I would of moved out as soon as I turned 18.
Another major problem at least for people my age is not having any or little job experience so no one wants to hire us. I couldn't even get any jobs till I did this retail/customer service training program.
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Yes, I know the experience thing is true. I just finished a degree in Health Information Technology, but no one will hire me even as a coder or transcriptionist because they want me to have 3+ years experience. I understand that they don't want to bother with someone who needs to learn the ropes, but where to beginners go to get a shot? I guess you have to get a lower job than that and earn your way into the entry level job to get into the field you want. lol
I could earn more being a waitress around here because it is a tourist area and I would probably have a lot more fun.
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Start your own business.
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I had to change states and now have 2 jobs
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Health care is probably going to eat more jobs up as well, because employers are not going to hire as many people so they can avoid paying for insurance, if you have under so many employees you fall below the line of having to provide insurance. Good job Obama on that one.
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Start your own business.
That is an idea I have thought about but what do I live on in the meantime? Most businesses take 1-2 years before they turn a profit. I could get a job and start a business on the side, but once again, the job would not pay my bills, let alone provide money to invest into a business.
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I know that jobs are scarce. I am in that boat now. I lived in Chicago for 28 years and was laid off my job in 2003. I am having a hard time finding another one. I even resorted to doing work from home. I will find a job since I am almost a senior (55 years young in September). At least I can make some money from my laptop doing surveys. :wave: :wave: :wave:
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I've been working at the same job for 9 years and make barely over the current minim wage it's depressing :crybaby2:
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Sounds like my area in PA as well.
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I think the market is starting to pick up depending on what you do, I wouldn't look in the newspaper but I would search on the internet.
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I have just found out last week that depending on your state were you live, anyone can apply for a job at your town schools as a sub teacher, janitor, etc with no experience needed and no certificates. The only thing is that you have to be fingerprinted with the school board(no matter if you have fingerprinted any where else) and you have to pay for that which in my state it is $50. I think that is a good deal BUT I DO think they should do a background check just in case if you know what I mean. Hope this helps you out. :thumbsup:
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Barley, but God will supply all your needs so keep the faith!
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There are a lot of jobs posted every day on Craigslist, but they are usually in Myrtle Beach which is a 30 minute drive. That would not be too bad but during tourist season you can easily double that. I get an update every few days from a site that posts legit work at home jobs and I have applied for a bunch of them that I have been qualified for but have not heard a word. I think there are just so many people applying that it is like winning the lottery to get a call back.
I have a friend that will give me a job but it is also quite a drive for me. But it is really good to know that I can always work for her if I need to. It really helps to know people.
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I know what you mean :BangHead:, I was laid off from a job I had for 27 years. Since then I can get good jobs, that want me to train the employees that they plan to keep and then let me go. That has happened about 4 times now. Mostly I have been told, I cannot pay what you want because I can hire 2 or 3 people with less experience to do the job. I have also taken a couple of jobs that pay really low, and because I am the newest when problems arise last hired first fired (or laid off). I do secret/mystery shopping and lately on all the restaurants I do, I noticed that they are starting to seem a lot busier. I can only assume that the economy is picking up, or so many people would not be out eating. I do from fast foods to very expensive restaurants.
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This may be a locational problem. I am in Colorado and the job situation is pretty good. Almost too good. I have committed to a few corporations thinking that each of them would have down periods. Not the case! I am working ninety plus hours per week and feel guilty if I take an hour or two to spend with my family. One project that I was working on finished last May and I was picked up by another corporation the next day and two other corporations within the next week. I guess I am blessed because my family has an expensive lifestyle. Have you thought about trying a temporary agency? No benefits but it allows you to try different companies.
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I have been job hunting lately and can't figure out how people are supposed to live. First of all there aren't any jobs. In our local newspaper there are usually only 1-2 legit jobs per day. If you don't qualify or want those you have to dig deeper. It seems that all jobs that pay a living wage are for people who already have that job and have been in that job for five years or more. In other words, they don't want to train anyone to do anything. Even if you have experience they want you to already be trained on their software, computer systems, etc.
I guess it is what happens when there are so many people needing jobs. The employers can cherry pick to get exactly what they want. Great for them, but sucks for us. They can also pay $9 per hour or less. Around here it is rare for a job to pay for than that even with a degree.
I could have written this. My husband has been trying for a while to find a decent job in our town. We live in a small town. He has certifications in Computer Technology and Automotive Technology. He cannot find work. I am trying to get on disability because of my health.
Last year, when I was till trying to work, I was applying for jobs that I am qualified for. However, these same jobs that required a high school diploma now required a Bachelor's. I have an Associates. (I had to leave before I could finish my degree because of health.)
Do they pay anymore for more people with Bachelor degrees? No. That is the saddest part.
About a year ago, we moved into a 5th wheel. (I really do love it. It is perfectly quiet and small enough that it does not wear me out to clean. Multiple Sclerosis is a b****.) We save a lot of money this way. But, in our town, people are struggling everywhere. When I was working for Hilton about 6 years ago in town, the company had over 400 employees. That location closed in 2008 or 2009, I think. 400 people without a job, just like that.
A lot of businesses in town have closed. Most hotels here now work on minimal staff.
My husband's certifications qualify him for a job making at least 15 an hour. No one wants to pay more than minimum. People are so hard up for a job that the companies can do this. On top of that is the issue that many employers want the applications and resumes to be submitted online. This is just horrible.
This is one reason why we are growing a garden. We have friends with livestock, so we get fresh eggs every week. We spend our money very wisely.
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Start your own business.
That is an idea I have thought about but what do I live on in the meantime? Most businesses take 1-2 years before they turn a profit. I could get a job and start a business on the side, but once again, the job would not pay my bills, let alone provide money to invest into a business.
My husband and I plan on starting a newsletter. We just need to fix our desktop and our printer. We already have mock-ups available. It will be print only. I know this is not the best venture, but it is what we want to do. :D
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There are a few areas where, depending on your field, there seems to be plenty of work. But in most of the country the unemployment rate isn't going down because people are getting jobs and getting back to normal, it's because they are giving up on a living wage and taking whatever might pay some of the bills or are exhausting their benefits without finding anything. I've been there, my layoff lasted over a year, and believe me not being able to find a job in most places isn't for lack of trying!
What's really sad is the young people, since there are so many qualified, experienced professionals out there in many fields desperate for work and taking the entry-level jobs when they can get them. What true entry level recent grad can compete? I know furloughed teachers with 15 years' experience working part-time behind cash registers (considered employed for the statistics) and real estate professionals or former mid-level local bank employees with a decade or more of experience who are delivering papers and driving cabs. Some have lost their homes, cars, everything. :angry7:
There's no shame in taking ANY work that might pay the bills. Flip burgers if you have to, and understand while it really sucks to start out that way the guy standing next to you might well have 20 years of construction experience or a PhD. Hopefully it will get better soon....but the way things are going who knows? Sigh.
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I am retired, wold love to go back to work but my back is so messed up that i can't anymore, but while i was working for a big dept store, they did random drug esting. Alright with me i didn't do drugs. Still don't even for pain. But hen i moved and went to work for home health, had to have a tb test fingerprinted and drug testing. Yep it cost, but the pay was pretty good. Now that i have moved back to my hometown, the jobs are few and far between. Oh well Hubby is still a sub teacher and that helps. He has a b.a. and retired also. But that little extra subbing comes in realy handy.
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I have been job hunting lately and can't figure out how people are supposed to live. First of all there aren't any jobs. In our local newspaper there are usually only 1-2 legit jobs per day. If you don't qualify or want those you have to dig deeper. It seems that all jobs that pay a living wage are for people who already have that job and have been in that job for five years or more. In other words, they don't want to train anyone to do anything. Even if you have experience they want you to already be trained on their software, computer systems, etc.
I guess it is what happens when there are so many people needing jobs. The employers can cherry pick to get exactly what they want. Great for them, but sucks for us. They can also pay $9 per hour or less. Around here it is rare for a job to pay for than that even with a degree.
they try to find was to Make money like this
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After I got laid off from my job in 2010, I worked VERY part time (think less than 10 hours a week - which was all I could find and collected unemployment). It took me until April of 2012 to get a job that made about 30% than the job I had been laid off from. I have been there over a year and I still have not gotten a raise.
I hate my job and would love to get a new one, but I agree there isn't much out there.
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I'm looking for a new job as I need change, but I've been having a battle as I'm competing with so many people for the same thing. I know I qualify for a lot of these jobs, but I also know there are some people who are asking for far less and work elsewhere in cheaper places. I don't want to step down the ladder, so I've been stubborn, but sometimes wonder if I should give in.
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Same here where I live, no jobs and people are running out of hope. I live in a small town and the one big industry hires alot of "Illegals". Don't know how they get by with it.
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sorry to here about your jop problems. I wish their was an easy answer.
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This is why nothing can top a career as a medical professional. People will always get sick and there will always be job openings.
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I'm not sure how people are supposed to live either. Most of the jobs out there are part-time and not much more than minimum wage. A lot of people are working two or more jobs and/or living with other people. And don't even get me started on healthcare.
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I watched this documentary on Netflix this weekend. I forget the name, but this guy and his girlfriend left their comfortable lives for 30 days to see what it would be like to live on minimum wage jobs. It was really interesting. They were both working right away and struggling. But the killer was when he hurt his wrist and she got a urinary tract infection. They could not afford to miss work or to pay for a doctor. They tried the free clinic, but they were so busy they could not get seen. They both ended up at the emergency room. Her bill was over $500 for a UTI and his was over $700 for a sprained wrist. They said that they don't understand how anyone does it.
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I must say I live in a small town in Texas and we're begging people to come work out here. We need people! Our newspaper posts about 30 jobs a day and a neighboring town posts over 150 jobs daily for all experience levels. Our job market is insane. Companies are trying to steal people from other companies because we don't have enough people. One example is McDonalds is paying $14 hourly straight off the bat in order to compete. Please, if you need a job or two Come to West Texas!
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I must say I live in a small town in Texas and we're begging people to come work out here. We need people! Our newspaper posts about 30 jobs a day and a neighboring town posts over 150 jobs daily for all experience levels. Our job market is insane. Companies are trying to steal people from other companies because we don't have enough people. One example is McDonalds is paying $14 hourly straight off the bat in order to compete. Please, if you need a job or two Come to West Texas!
I would probably do that but my parents are now in their 80's and really need to make the move to a retirement home. They refuse to come to grips with reality, so for the time being they depend of me for almost everything. That is why I am looking for a job so I can slowly wean them off and make them realized that I have my own kid and home and problems to take care of.
I remember hearing about another state where they do fracking that has so many jobs that they don't even have enough housing for the people there who now have jobs. I think North or South Dakota. However, I think the weather in Texas would suit me a bit better.
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I often wonder how a lot of people get by. It seems many jobs around here pay in the 9 to 10 dollar an hour range. You really do need two incomes it seems! That's how it's worked out for me, anyway.
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Many employers are cutting hours to under 30 to keep away from Obamacare. I heard a college professor say on television that is a really good thing because that way many more people will have jobs. He didn't say how they were going to afford to live on it unless they had 2 jobs and then there wouldn't be anymore jobs. There really is no one any more stupid than college professors.
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I have been job hunting lately and can't figure out how people are supposed to live. First of all there aren't any jobs. In our local newspaper there are usually only 1-2 legit jobs per day. If you don't qualify or want those you have to dig deeper. It seems that all jobs that pay a living wage are for people who already have that job and have been in that job for five years or more. In other words, they don't want to train anyone to do anything. Even if you have experience they want you to already be trained on their software, computer systems, etc.
I guess it is what happens when there are so many people needing jobs. The employers can cherry pick to get exactly what they want. Great for them, but sucks for us. They can also pay $9 per hour or less. Around here it is rare for a job to pay for than that even with a degree.
I understand your dilemma. But, with the economy being in the dumps it really is kind of hard to find a "good" paying job. That, and the fact of Obamacare are keeping employers from hiring "full-time" workers at decent wages BECAUSE THEY CAN'T AFFORD IT!!!! Most people are settling for lesser jobs with less money and taking on more than 1 job, that's the sad, cold facts!!! So, I just think we can "thank" the Traitor in the White House for all this!!!!!!!!! Oh, and by the way, don't expect it to get any better either - at least not unless and until he's out of office!!!!!!
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It sounds like things are really tough for a lot of you out there. I think the economy is picking up a bit - so I hope it helps. Life doesn't seem fair sometimes, but keep your chin up.
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I am the boss here so I hire people all the time, but guess what, they don't wanna work, really don't understand it. Call offs continually.
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Hard to sayy...employers are picky, humans are smart in their own way ..but only some are the "targets" that's why i think some places are boring, just a place full of same people, same skills, same thoughts. The "smarter" people need to open up more for others too...
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How people live? You want to know the truth? They will do anything just to survive!
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I don't know how people get by, either. I live with family to help keep costs down.
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I know what you mean. I often wonder about all the people that live in nice houses and how it was possible. I am on social security disablity right now and really don't know how i would of survived without it.
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Newspapers are not the places to be looking for jobs anymore! They're much more expensive to advertise in and get fewer results, so companies put everything online.
Look on online job sites like Monster.com. More than that though, if you know what kind of job you're searching for, research companies and either apply directly via their websites or GO TO the company to discuss the job opportunity and apply there! You've got to be really pro-active these days because the job certainly isn't going to just come to anyone. :thumbsup: Good luck!
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i think the work force is still not where it should be. i still know a lot of people out of work... :sad1:
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I agree the job market sucks here as well. My husband has been looking and hasn't had any luck. We live in a small town with mostly fast food joints to work at and they all seem to only hire teenagers. ::)
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I m sorry to hear you have been unsuccessful! It is very hard today to find a good lying job unless you know someone!! Good luck and hopefully you will find something very soon!!
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I m sorry to hear you have been unsuccessful! It is very hard today to find a good lying job unless you know someone!! Good luck and hopefully you will find something very soon!!
I think you hit the nail on the head. I have been trying to let everyone I know that I am looking so that maybe somebody will think of me when a job is mentioned. I also hang out on a lot of forums where jobs might be mentioned. I don't bother looking in the paper. I search online every day and have applied for probably 40 jobs in the last two weeks. So far, I got one offer. It was from Kelly to work from home taking calls, but the pay was $9.15 per hour and I had to go through 4 weeks of training and then they would tell me what my shift and days were going to be. I would have taken it if it allowed me to work 2 jobs, but with no way to know what they schedule would be I might take myself out of the running for other jobs. How can you accept a job if you don't know the hours. I mean, actually I would do that, but not for $9.15 an hour.
Anyone who pays rent, or has a house and a car and eats, can't possibly survive on that. Again, it's not that I don't have skills. I have tons, plus a degree and 30 years work experience. It just comes down to a sucky economy because I keep hearing other people complaining about the same thing.
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I don't know how people make it on $10/hour either, especially if you have a family. I do know that most states have job search sites and post openings, educational requirements, salary ranges, etc. For example iowajobs.org for the state of Iowa. Its really very comprehensive.
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I moved to the city to find work...there was no work at all in my home town....hoping they soon raise minimum wages...
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Having a degree is no guaranty of a job. My wife has been with her company for thirty five years and lacked self confidence becaus she didn't have a degree for seventeen of those years. I got my bachelor's right after high school. I have only made more money than her in two of the twenty years that we have been married. When the real estate market tanked in 2008 I couldn't find a job for three weeks so I took a job as a paper boy and worked hard enough to average about eighteen dollars per hour. I still couldn't find a job in my field so I took a job as a milkman making about twenty one dollars an hour. Both were brutal jobs but you do what you have to do. I am finally back in my field making decent cash without beating myself up. I think that most of my opportunities have come from my extremely good work ethic...Thank God!
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It is amazing how a family with kids survive.
No wonder both parents have to work.
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A lot of the things that most people consider "necessary" really aren't. No, you don't need a hundred dollar smartphone with a whopping bill every month. No, you don't need both cable AND the Internet. No, you don't need to drive a new car. No, you don't need to have expensive a s s kids as a default.
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I have been job hunting lately and can't figure out how people are supposed to live. First of all there aren't any jobs. In our local newspaper there are usually only 1-2 legit jobs per day. If you don't qualify or want those you have to dig deeper. It seems that all jobs that pay a living wage are for people who already have that job and have been in that job for five years or more. In other words, they don't want to train anyone to do anything. Even if you have experience they want you to already be trained on their software, computer systems, etc.
I guess it is what happens when there are so many people needing jobs. The employers can cherry pick to get exactly what they want. Great for them, but sucks for us. They can also pay $9 per hour or less. Around here it is rare for a job to pay for than that even with a degree.
You are so right, especially about the scarcity of jobs and the menial pay. It's even worse if you are considered a "Senior". So when people say the "economy is getting better" - I say OH, REALLY SHOW ME WHERE!!!!!!!!!!
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Thankfully I live in a city where jobs are always available, even if they happen to the be the lowest of the low jobs. If I were in your situation, I'd try to live as material free as possible, and then move locations at the earliest time possible to a city where there are more opportunities.
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I been looking for a second job but have had no luck. I work as a customer service specialist and the raises here are horrible. Feels like for 3 years i been working here has been for nothing. Thankful and gratefull that i have a job but SFL is very difficult. Sometimes you dont even last long at the job.
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its a struggle to simply "live".... the fact is there are jobs out there no matter where you live. But all the other factors about where you live such as how many GOOD jobs there are in your town, how much you will get be compensated vs how much your cost of living will be... the key is to bring your cost of living down as much as possible and maximize your earning potential at the same time
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I know what you mean. They keep on blaming Obama when it is the private sector that is putting all those restrictions on people getting jobs. And lets face it, who can live on a McDonald's salary with a family.
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I'm from Ohio and there are no decent jobs here either. I had to take a low paying job, but gas is eating up my profit. I'm wondering if it's even worth the job? My Friend wants me to move to Tennessee, but I haven't heard about the job market there.
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There are times when you have to drop your standards. I haven't been employed since 2005. I want a job, but I will not bend my standards to do jobs I am not happy with. I have been a Clerk/Receptionist, an Accounting Clerk, and an Accounts Technician. I was happy at those kinds of jobs. I would take a job right now if I could get at least $15,000 a year. Something beats nothing. :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
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There are times when you have to drop your standards. I haven't been employed since 2005. I want a job, but I will not bend my standards to do jobs I am not happy with. I have been a Clerk/Receptionist, an Accounting Clerk, and an Accounts Technician. I was happy at those kinds of jobs. I would take a job right now if I could get at least $15,000 a year. Something beats nothing. :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
I hear you but I promise you that would not cover my food, electric, gas, clothing and medical expenses. Remember we live in a time when it is not unusual for a prescription to cost over $100 and gas can be near $4 a gallon. I am the only earner here, trying to support me and my son. I set myself up as well as I could. I own my house free and clear. I own my car free and clear. I don't go out to eat, I don't drink or smoke. Yet, I still could not get by on that with a growing teenager that needs clothes and food.
It has been over 30 days since I started this thread and I am still looking. I have had one offer at $9.15 an hour and another call back from a jewelry store, which I decided not to pursue because of the long drive it would involve and it paid $10 only.
I guess that when you figure that I have made around the same amount of money for 20 years, I hate to take less twenty years later. You know what I mean? Geeze, you hope your wage goes up, but I guess I should have been a doctor or something that is always in demand. Nobody but myself to blame for that.
In the meantime, I have picked up a few independent contractor transcription jobs. I hate transcription but it is extra money so I take every offer I get for the extra work.
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I have been a nurse since the mid 70s. I have found that nursing is one of the most inflation-proof professions there is and have always been able to go to work immediately.
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I don't know how people are supposed to live. My brother and I are unable to get jobs and my mother is on disability. My dad passed away recently so we lost his income. We are just struggling to get by day to day. I hope things improve for you.
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I just got offered a job doing private senior home care for 20.00 an hour in OHio.
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I just got offered a job doing private senior home care for 20.00 an hour in OHio.
That is really good because around here they pay $10 per hour. If you were hired directly by the client you could make a little more, but not much. I know because I have looked into it and we have hired caregivers to fill in taking care of my mom. However, I am so burned out from doing that work for six years, that I don't think I could handle it. My mom is about to break my back, lifting and moving her around.
I have two phone interviews today for part time work at home jobs, one is following up with seniors about taking their medication and the other is inbound customer service, so maybe I will get one of those and they will help for extra money but I don't think either one will allow me to replace my current income. Still, I don't mind working extra jobs to feel more secure. At least it;s something.
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Yes it is very hard to find jobs, my son had a problem he finally found one but he makes minimum wage or just a little more. With gas price jumping to almost $4 and rent, electric extra its tough. My husband and I live off of $710 a month and it really not enough we are short every month so I do this online to help out but I am not getting money every month, which is what I need. We are always so broke its depressing. Believe me I understand.
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I understand where you are coming from. While there are several jobs available in our area most only pay minimum wage which comes no where near enough to pay for rent, food and basics to live. This is one of the reason that i had to quit my job and become a stay at home mom and work part time online. When i started looking for day care i was only going to be making around 1000-3000 a year after the day care was paid and the taxes came out. Even if it had been on the higher end i would have been take home pay of $57 a week most people cant even eat on that for a week let alone pay rent. We need to raise minimum wage or lower how much everything cost.
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I share in your frustration. It's pretty brutal out there finding work.
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I too joined the ranks of the unemployed after 20 years at the same job. The only jobs out there are lower paying and part-time. Most people are working 2 jobs to survive and many without any health care benefits. It's horrible that we have been reduced to this level.
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finding a job now days is a struggle. I lost my job in January due to the company closing the store i had worked at for 17 years. I'm 56 years old and finding a job at this age is depressing. Unemployment checks is not good to live on. But i'm doing my best. lost my health care also so I'm in double trouble. I live in a small city also so there are not a lot of jobs unless you have been to college or know the ropes or have some kind of computer knowledge.
I just needed to work 4 more years at this company and I would have been fine to retire from there and collect my pension, and get a part time job,,,, now I'm having to start all over. So I know exactly what everyone is saying,,,, :crybaby2:
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I have found that the state job databases are useful for example the South Dakota job site is: http://dlr.sd.gov/
I certain that most states have his type of website. You can search by type of job, city, etc.
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How do people live, interesting question, answer, barely. I know its hard to find jobs. And you're right, most jobs are advancements within a company. They do not want to spend the money to train anyone and do not want to pay for medical either. Thats why more and more people are working for themselves.
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My brother and I can't find jobs. We lost our job at the same place and started looking while we were helping our mom care for our grandmother who had cancer and then we were still making it because of my mom and dad but then my dad passed away in January and my mom lost his income so we are all in a jam. So know exactly how all of you feel.
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they go to food banks and any other help they can
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I have been job hunting lately and can't figure out how people are supposed to live. First of all there aren't any jobs. In our local newspaper there are usually only 1-2 legit jobs per day. If you don't qualify or want those you have to dig deeper. It seems that all jobs that pay a living wage are for people who already have that job and have been in that job for five years or more. In other words, they don't want to train anyone to do anything. Even if you have experience they want you to already be trained on their software, computer systems, etc.
I guess it is what happens when there are so many people needing jobs. The employers can cherry pick to get exactly what they want. Great for them, but sucks for us. They can also pay $9 per hour or less. Around here it is rare for a job to pay for than that even with a degree.
It seems you have expressed what 99% of the unemployed people feel for sure!!!! I, myself, was out of work for 3+ yrs. and have just a few short months ago taken a "part-time" position for a mere $9.00 per hr. So, I can definitely understand where you are coming from. This just brings me to the question, ARE WE REALLY SEEING OUR ECONOMY GET BETTER?????? Personally, I don't see it!!!!!