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Title: What does society need to do in order to make this country/world a better place?
Post by: mrbizzard on June 02, 2014, 06:16:32 am
What do you think needs to be done?
Title: Re: What does society need to do in order to make this country/world a better place?
Post by: BlackSheepNY on June 02, 2014, 09:50:14 am
Live and let live, unless they're trying to kill you for not being like one of them.
Title: Re: What does society need to do in order to make this country/world a better place?
Post by: jmccaskill on June 02, 2014, 09:45:53 pm
repeal Obamacare, counter act practically all Obama's 'executive orders' that are clearly beyond the scope of his office as President, complete the fence on the Mexican border, deport ALL illegal aliens, pass legislation that clarifies the status of US citizenship, tie all foreign aid to affirmative pro US actions of the recipient nation, cease entering armed conflicts that we have no intention of winning, eliminate the IRS and replace it with a simplified flat tax, deny government benefits to any and all non-US citizens (if they cannot support themselves get them out of the country), drug test EVERY person that receives government payments regardless of social or professional status, make ALL US agency regulations to review by the US House of Representatives, actively support and promote free market economies in foreign nations especially those that receive US foreign aid, etc.
Title: Re: What does society need to do in order to make this country/world a better place?
Post by: wendyr19 on June 03, 2014, 06:20:34 am
repeal Obamacare, counter act practically all Obama's 'executive orders' that are clearly beyond the scope of his office as President, complete the fence on the Mexican border, deport ALL illegal aliens, pass legislation that clarifies the status of US citizenship, tie all foreign aid to affirmative pro US actions of the recipient nation, cease entering armed conflicts that we have no intention of winning, eliminate the IRS and replace it with a simplified flat tax, deny government benefits to any and all non-US citizens (if they cannot support themselves get them out of the country), drug test EVERY person that receives government payments regardless of social or professional status, make ALL US agency regulations to review by the US House of Representatives, actively support and promote free market economies in foreign nations especially those that receive US foreign aid, etc.

I agree with you to an extent. We need to set up better border patrols and take better charge of who enters the country and where they are for their duration of the stay. Also making sure that they leave when they're visa expires. Although, I don't believe that we should deport the children that have grown up here from a very young age. The ones that know nothing of where they come from and have gotten all their education here.
Title: Re: What does society need to do in order to make this country/world a better place?
Post by: wendyr19 on June 03, 2014, 06:24:29 am
Other things that we should to in order to make this country better is to stop interfering with other countries problems. We have our own problems to worry about. We need to fix our unemployment rate, our healthcare system, and our debt. We shouldn't be helping others when we can't even help ourselves.
Title: Re: What does society need to do in order to make this country/world a better place?
Post by: reneeclay28 on June 03, 2014, 06:39:07 pm
get rid of guns and the world would be a better place.
Title: Re: What does society need to do in order to make this country/world a better place?
Post by: tfw6693 on June 05, 2014, 12:03:26 pm
 :) Restore God and Patriotism.  :)
Title: Re: What does society need to do in order to make this country/world a better place?
Post by: jmccaskill on June 05, 2014, 07:34:15 pm
:) Restore God and Patriotism.  :)

This might be somewhat true, however I would like to know just how one would do this. Fire arms are practically ancient technology, they can be manufactured in any decently equipped machine shop or even a hobbyist's basement. That said, those that want them will always have a source for them, so I don't see how having a gun free world is anything but a dream, just ain't gonna happen... and the times before fire arms were pretty violent as I recall my history... would you rather be hacked to death with a rusty axe or shot...? Neither would be my choice but I would like the ability to defend myself from either... just my thoughts
Title: Re: What does society need to do in order to make this country/world a better place?
Post by: bowrunner on June 08, 2014, 09:08:39 am
I have no clue how anyone would go about ridding the world of guns.  That is an impossible dream and I want to be able to defend myself.
This country would be a much better place if the lazy bums would get off the dole and go back to work so the ones working could keep most of what they make instead of supporting the lazy bums.
Title: Re: What does society need to do in order to make this country/world a better place?
Post by: linderlizzie on June 13, 2014, 12:30:18 pm
A happy home with an intact family is a great starting place.  :highfive:

:fish:
Title: Re: What does society need to do in order to make this country/world a better place?
Post by: silentescape on June 14, 2014, 09:39:46 pm
:) Restore God and Patriotism.  :)

I definitely wouldn't agree with this. If people would stop forcing their opinions and beliefs on other people, then the world might be better. Not everyone believes in a god. Not everyone loves their country. If the country was worth loving, obviously there would be more patriotism. If religions were believable to everyone, then everyone would believe in them. "God" and patriotism are not the answers. Conformity is not an answer. Making the world a safe and socially accepting place are answers.
Title: Re: What does society need to do in order to make this country/world a better place?
Post by: tfw6693 on June 15, 2014, 08:06:02 am
 :) Return to the fundamentals that made this country great to start with.  :)
Title: Re: What does society need to do in order to make this country/world a better place?
Post by: hitch0403 on June 15, 2014, 01:37:59 pm
Hey Silent,your last line says,"making the world a safer place."

I was wondering,where have you been for the last 6000 years of mans existence?How many more years of chaos,greed,suffering etc do you need to see......

Eccl 8:9 Man has dominated himself to his own injury

????????????????
Title: Re: What does society need to do in order to make this country/world a better place?
Post by: silentescape on June 16, 2014, 04:04:55 pm
Hey Silent,your last line says,"making the world a safer place."

I was wondering,where have you been for the last 6000 years of mans existence?How many more years of chaos,greed,suffering etc do you need to see......

Eccl 8:9 Man has dominated himself to his own injury

????????????????

Making the world a safer place has nothing to do with religion. The reason there's so many problems with things like that is because of bad education and bad economies. Religion is not something that needs to be forced upon people for the world to be safer. Teaching children from a young age that ALL people, regardless or religion, skin color, gender, political beliefs, sexuality, etc., are people will the same rights as everyone else. People justify their actions because too many people normalize racism, sexism, homophobia, and the like. Even religious groups often contribute to that.

If you want religious references for helping make the world better, Matthew 7 completely supports what I said.

"Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use it, it will be measured to you."

Regardless of the fact that I'm an atheist, I just quoted a Bible passage. I respect all religions. I respect all people as long as they do not disrespect the rights and beliefs of others. That is the type of attitude that we need to teach and accept in order to have a world where everyone can live happily and safely.

We need to stop judging people for being different. If we were a more accepting society, the world would be a better and safer place. I stand by that 100 percent.
Title: Re: What does society need to do in order to make this country/world a better place?
Post by: hitch0403 on June 16, 2014, 07:32:22 pm
A landlord gets to decide the rules of his house...no smoking...no pets etc.....

I believe an invisible Creator <True God> named Jehovah or if you prefer Yahweh created the earth for it to be the home of mankind.Obviously there was rebellion and his creation had a setback.But the name Jehovah means,he causes to become."It will happen.And God will set the rules for conditions here FOREVER with NEVER anymore crap that satan and disobedient mankind have caused.

If you are an atheist thats your decision.If you wanna hope mankind will straighten this mess out thats also your decision.I just pointed out to you how long is enuff?And used bible to back up what i said.

Trust me,i know MANY do not wanna be accoutable to a higher power.Its obvious with the results of the world for God allowing satan and man to attempt to rule themselves.

If you are happy with the results and happy to live your 70-80 years and die....again....your decision....

Im not!!

Title: Re: What does society need to do in order to make this country/world a better place?
Post by: hitch0403 on June 16, 2014, 07:40:47 pm
Let me just add.......yes and i have spoken about it much on FC.Christendom teaches lies!!!They do not teach bible truths....and God gets blamed.

I wouldnt wanna hear that crap either.

But truth is truth.....go examine what bible says.NOT what some jerk on tv is saying.

Even Jesus condemned Pharissees and they thought they had true beliefs.Go read what Jesus called them.You are from your father the devil.

Jesus exposed their crap.They killed him for that.....they let a criminal go before him.....why....cos he exposed their lies etc.

Christendom will pay soon.....Examine your beliefs...not your social bingo games or how you dress etc!!!Or your stature with the town!!Again Jesus said "I never knew you"...when they think they were doing right thing.
Title: Re: What does society need to do in order to make this country/world a better place?
Post by: loulizlee on June 17, 2014, 08:28:12 am
Jesus said, The greatest commandment of all is to love your neighbor as yourself.  Imagine, if everyone loved everyone else as much as they loved themselves, all good things for making this a better world would fall into place.  I don't think this will ever happen in this world because most of mankind is too selfish.  They don't love their fellow man; they want what their fellow man has.  But we can always start with ourselves.  Any show of love is not in vain.
Title: Re: What does society need to do in order to make this country/world a better place?
Post by: sigmapi1501 on June 17, 2014, 09:55:26 am
:) Return to the fundamentals that made this country great to start with.  :)

Slavery and stealing the native people's land?
Title: Re: What does society need to do in order to make this country/world a better place?
Post by: sigmapi1501 on June 17, 2014, 09:57:35 am
Let me just add.......yes and i have spoken about it much on FC.Christendom teaches lies!!!They do not teach bible truths....and God gets blamed.

I wouldnt wanna hear that crap either.

But truth is truth.....go examine what bible says.NOT what some jerk on tv is saying.

Even Jesus condemned Pharissees and they thought they had true beliefs.Go read what Jesus called them.You are from your father the devil.

Jesus exposed their crap.They killed him for that.....they let a criminal go before him.....why....cos he exposed their lies etc.

Christendom will pay soon.....Examine your beliefs...not your social bingo games or how you dress etc!!!Or your stature with the town!!Again Jesus said "I never knew you"...when they think they were doing right thing.

I know right? Those OTHER misguided religious people are cray cray. 
Title: Re: What does society need to do in order to make this country/world a better place?
Post by: BMaston12 on June 17, 2014, 10:10:24 am
What do you think needs to be done?
People are on the right track with getting rid of Obama. But how can we do that before 2016? In the mean time, our economy just keeps continuing to slide deeper in the hole. I feel pretty helpless in trying to stop a runaway train.
BMaston12
Title: Re: What does society need to do in order to make this country/world a better place?
Post by: hitch0403 on June 17, 2014, 12:41:25 pm
I have to laugh at how Obama is the scapegoat for many.First off i dont support politicians.But do you really think anyone else is going to straighten out the messs?

I actually think Obama has more humility than some of the other men.And i have an affordable healthcare policy because of him now.

My point is NO matter who is in office people will always complain.But as i said they need a scapegoat and i am sure many dont like him cos hes half black too.
Title: Re: What does society need to do in order to make this country/world a better place?
Post by: hitch0403 on June 17, 2014, 12:57:21 pm
Can you prove to me you do right Sigmapi?

I wanted to turn the tables on you for all the times you asked me for proofs....LOL!!!
Title: Re: What does society need to do in order to make this country/world a better place?
Post by: sfreeman8 on June 20, 2014, 08:21:36 am
:) Restore God and Patriotism.  :)

You would be surprised how much of God and Patriotism is in this country. FC is not the only site I visit. I go to political sites and religion and patriotism plays a large part in some debates.

For the person who said get rid of guns...do you really believe other countries who want to rule the world would get rid of their guns? Do you really believe drug dealers and other criminals would get rid of their guns? Why do you think serial numbers are filed off most guns that criminals own?

I would rather own a gun so I can protect myself and family than to allow someone to come into my home and steal my belongings, attack or murder my family, than to just sit there and allow them to do it.
Title: Re: What does society need to do in order to make this country/world a better place?
Post by: rghvac69 on June 20, 2014, 10:32:28 am
To improve this country we need better informed voters. The world? More freedom and capitalism.
Title: Re: What does society need to do in order to make this country/world a better place?
Post by: jmccaskill on June 21, 2014, 11:32:28 am
:) Return to the fundamentals that made this country great to start with.  :)

Slavery and stealing the native people's land?

If you MUST focus on the 'negatives' of the founding of the USA, please refrain from asserting such as 'founding doctrines' as neither of those you state are factual or accurate as you imply. If one cares to do some research, they will find that most of the US physical land was 'owned by no one! Native tribes constantly warred over territorial dominion but never claimed 'ownership', only rights to exploit whatever resources that were there. Those few areas that were claimed to be 'owned' were paid for in almost all circumstances in one form or another. Face the facts, native Americans were truly stone age civilizations in the trues sense of the term. That being a fact, what or how else would you have dealt with them? Sheer armed conquest and genocide was readily possible and probably considered. (In later days in the west it was covertly exercised to some degree) So I suggest that your first point is little more than a 'straw dog' postulate.

As to slavery, it was certainly in no way a 'founding doctrine' of the nation. Study your history and you will find that at the earliest points plans were put in place to deal the elimination of this practice, only later to be ignored. Much of true history of the slavery issue has been intentionally forgotten, I can only speculate why but with intentional research you can still find the truth of the matter. I am not defending slavery or making excuses for its being part of the history of the US, but please don't claim that is one of the founding doctrines of this country, at best you could state that slavery was an existing issue for which accommodations had to be made.