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Title: Cursive writing
Post by: kimber62372 on October 15, 2014, 02:17:16 pm
Does your schooling in your area teach cursive handwriting? The state of NJ did away with it! I think that is ridiculous! I have no problem showing my 7 yr old how to write in script but come on now! It's unbelievable how the teaching has changed since I was a kid! Very sad!
Title: Re: Cursive writing
Post by: CharmedPhoenix on October 15, 2014, 02:36:51 pm
As far as I know NM still teaches cursive.  It's a shame that some states are dropping it.  I analyze handwriting (on Fiverr) and it's cursive that shows the most about your personality.  How are they going to sign their names on contracts if they don't learn cursive?  Printed names on checks and contracts aren't valid.  What are they going to do, make their mark, like our ancestors did?  :angry7: :dontknow:
Title: Re: Cursive writing
Post by: hawkeye3210 on October 15, 2014, 02:47:05 pm
Printed names on checks and contracts aren't valid.  What are they going to do, make their mark, like our ancestors did?  :angry7: :dontknow:[/color]

That's not true. Your signature does not need to be in cursive. It's completely acceptable to print your signature.
Title: Re: Cursive writing
Post by: clickers on October 15, 2014, 03:10:39 pm
Sad to say cursive is no longer needed. It has become a hobby  to some of us. It's not required  learning anymore.
Title: Re: Cursive writing
Post by: bowrunner on October 15, 2014, 03:17:41 pm
I believe cursive should very definitely still be taught in schools.  It is still needed in spite of all of the new technology.
Title: Re: Cursive writing
Post by: sak4kat on October 15, 2014, 03:38:12 pm
I don't really care if my children learn cursive or not.  There was a time when short hand was a requirement in high school as well and look how many people know that art.  My son had an IEP through grade school through the years in which cursive was being taught.  His teachers didn't bother with him.  If his print was legible that alone made them happy.  His IEP was due to vision constraints.  Other than the extra tools and time given to him to complete assignments and tests he was an A,B and C student.  In fact he surpassed average in Math and Science with awards in the district.  Now if he had been accountable for his grades without the IEP.  His grades would have suffered.  He still doesn't know how to write in cursive and he's a freshman.  Not a single teacher has yet to complain about his lack of script as most of what he does is in a google doc format anyway.
Title: Re: Cursive writing
Post by: linderlizzie on October 15, 2014, 05:48:42 pm
Not teaching cursive is just another way of dumbing down America.  :sad1:

I can't understand what is in educator's minds when they do away with former perfectly fine ways of communicating with others. I cringe when I see how many misspellings are just commonplace now because of texting. No one can spell anything anymore.  :silly:

I praise people when I see them using cursive to sign their names. They're actually legible! Imagine that.  :star:
Title: Re: Cursive writing
Post by: hawkeye3210 on October 15, 2014, 06:37:47 pm
Not teaching cursive is just another way of dumbing down America.  :sad1:

I can't understand what is in educator's minds when they do away with former perfectly fine ways of communicating with others. I cringe when I see how many misspellings are just commonplace now because of texting. No one can spell anything anymore.  :silly:

I praise people when I see them using cursive to sign their names. They're actually legible! Imagine that.  :star:


You do realize that you can still hand write things without cursive, right? Maybe teachers can focus on spelling now, instead of wasting time teaching something that most don't even use.
Title: Re: Cursive writing
Post by: kimber62372 on October 15, 2014, 07:26:14 pm
Not teaching cursive is just another way of dumbing down America.  :sad1:

I can't understand what is in educator's minds when they do away with former perfectly fine ways of communicating with others. I cringe when I see how many misspellings are just commonplace now because of texting. No one can spell anything anymore.  :silly:

I praise people when I see them using cursive to sign their names. They're actually legible! Imagine that.  :star:

I agree with you 100%! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Cursive writing
Post by: ktheodos on October 15, 2014, 09:12:52 pm
I have no idea...I just know it's not taught as frequently, and people are handwriting less and less
Title: Re: Cursive writing
Post by: ancmetro on October 15, 2014, 10:07:48 pm

  It is very sad to see that most schools have discontinued "the art of penmanship". When I was in elementary school, it was mandatory to take these classes. It was really a good mental and physical exercise...that was very useful in adulthood.
Title: Re: Cursive writing
Post by: lywb2168 on October 16, 2014, 03:26:29 am
My girls were taught to write in cursive, but they do not use it often they prefer loose letter.  I grew up on another country and over there cursive is the preferred writing skill.  My hand writing is not the best but cursive is better than the other one in my opinion.  But kids education this days is bad no matter where you go.  I remember when Math had to be done in your head and with pen and paper, know they use calculators for everything, it is dumb and USA education is getting dumber by the year.
Title: Re: Cursive writing
Post by: teresa3200 on October 16, 2014, 05:26:48 am
I can't believe they would stop teaching it, that's crazy! I am pretty sure Florida is still teaching it but my kids are grown so I don't know that for a fact. I will have to ask my daughter in law. She teaches middle school, but she would probably know if elementary has changed that or not.
Title: Re: Cursive writing
Post by: lvstephanie on October 16, 2014, 09:11:39 am
Yay! Penmanship was the only class in school that I got a D. My handwriting is terrible, mostly because I have poor eye-hand coordination. The only time I used it was in school, and when I got into Jr. high they wanted us to type our reports on a computer instead of hand-writing them. Also when taking tests, we could hand-write the answers using our preferred way of writing (which for me was printing instead of cursive).

Not teaching cursive is just another way of dumbing down America.  :sad1:

I can't understand what is in educator's minds when they do away with former perfectly fine ways of communicating with others. I cringe when I see how many misspellings are just commonplace now because of texting. No one can spell anything anymore.  :silly:

I praise people when I see them using cursive to sign their names. They're actually legible! Imagine that.  :star:


A person's penmanship has nothing to do with intelligence. So I disagree that it is "dumbing down" America by not making kids learn it. I'd much rather the schools spend time teaching things that do pertain to intelligence, like reading, math, history, science, etc. rather than an art of writing. Sure cursive looks prettier than print, but so does calligraphy yet we don't force students to learn that art of writing either. As long as a student knows how to write and covey their thoughts, I'm satisfied.
Title: Re: Cursive writing
Post by: devideddi on October 16, 2014, 11:45:47 am
They don't teach it any more in North Carolina.  :(  But I wish they did.  Ii wrote out the alaphabet in cursive
for my daughter who just started high school.  I also printed some pages.  She loves it. People need to learn how
to sign their name especially!
Title: Re: Cursive writing
Post by: aflyingmonkey on October 16, 2014, 12:01:22 pm
Cursive comes in handy to take notes, in college & in the real world during conferences, meetings, etc....    Not every class or work place allows typing on a computer for not taking.   I dont' know anyone that can print as fast as they can write in cursive. 

Those children who don't learn cursive are going to be at a disadvantage if they go to college.   How do they take notes in high school during class even?   Makes no sense to do away with a form of writing just because computers are getting so common.    It's like doing away with upper division math because there are computer programs that will do it all for you, no need to do it all from scratch.
Title: Re: Cursive writing
Post by: Penwoir on October 16, 2014, 12:47:18 pm
Yes, when I was a kid, I remember being taught cursive writing, or joined up writing as we called it. I consider previous generations who have had excellent handwriting such as my mother and grandmother. They were all taught to the standard and lets face it, their writing is so perfect they all look the same! My oldest son who is now 10, said he started to learn cursive writing in second grade but my second son is already in third grade and he hasn't been taught it yet. This is a shame especially as both my sons have unusually dreadful handwriting!
Title: Re: Cursive writing
Post by: ro901 on October 16, 2014, 12:55:24 pm
So if they no longer teach cursive, then what does a signature look like now? I guess you just make whatever kind of mark you want and it's ok. Whatever. I don't like the new world.
Title: Re: Cursive writing
Post by: ro901 on October 16, 2014, 01:00:27 pm
Actually, I learned cursive in grade school but after I began working as a medical transcriptionist in 1972, I spent so much time typing that my cursive writing degraded into something that looks like I'm drunk, so I always do printing now so it doesn't look so bad.
Title: Re: Cursive writing
Post by: BlackSheepNY on October 16, 2014, 01:29:46 pm
Does your schooling in your area teach cursive handwriting? The state of NJ did away with it! I think that is ridiculous! I have no problem showing my 7 yr old how to write in script but come on now! It's unbelievable how the teaching has changed since I was a kid! Very sad!

It's called the new "Common Core" education, which is not meant to actually "educate" your young student, but DUMB HIM DOWN to a mindless little freak that will obey the socialist state.  The schools are no longer teaching students any kind of skills they may be able to take forward with them in to the working world after they graduate.  The schools are trying desperately to CHANGE American History so that it won't "offend" anyone.  Since you, and young people like you, have children learning this literal cr*p, it's up to YOU to CHANGE it.  Think about it - if your student doesn't learn cursive, how will they be able to READ it?  How will they be able to SIGN THEIR NAME on necessary documents?  Are we going back to the days where you "make your mark" (an 'X') for a signature because people didn't know how to read or write?  Education means one thing today - INDOCTRINATION.
Title: Re: Cursive writing
Post by: rainman306 on October 16, 2014, 01:33:11 pm
I really doubt if many schools anymore teach cursive writing -- it really is a time gone by skill to learn.
Title: Re: Cursive writing
Post by: hawkeye3210 on October 16, 2014, 01:50:47 pm
Cursive comes in handy to take notes, in college & in the real world during conferences, meetings, etc....    Not every class or work place allows typing on a computer for not taking.   I dont' know anyone that can print as fast as they can write in cursive. 

Those children who don't learn cursive are going to be at a disadvantage if they go to college.   How do they take notes in high school during class even?   Makes no sense to do away with a form of writing just because computers are getting so common.    It's like doing away with upper division math because there are computer programs that will do it all for you, no need to do it all from scratch.

Unless you regularly write in cursive, it isn't any faster. Even when I was in college, most printed their notes, with very few using cursive. I'd guess even fewer use it now. It's just not necessary. You're taking notes, not writing a book.
Title: Re: Cursive writing
Post by: hawkeye3210 on October 16, 2014, 02:22:34 pm
Does your schooling in your area teach cursive handwriting? The state of NJ did away with it! I think that is ridiculous! I have no problem showing my 7 yr old how to write in script but come on now! It's unbelievable how the teaching has changed since I was a kid! Very sad!

Think about it - if your student doesn't learn cursive, how will they be able to READ it?  How will they be able to SIGN THEIR NAME on necessary documents?  Are we going back to the days where you "make your mark" (an 'X') for a signature because people didn't know how to read or write?  Education means one thing today - INDOCTRINATION.

How often do actually need to read cursive?

Sign your name doesn't mean write your name in cursive. You can sign your name in print. Many people already do that.
Title: Re: Cursive writing
Post by: Sadie2426 on October 16, 2014, 02:43:19 pm
its just not needed anymore l :-\ike short hand
Title: Re: Cursive writing
Post by: Skyisbluetoday on October 16, 2014, 05:53:06 pm
Yes my school taught me to cursive writing.
Title: Re: Cursive writing
Post by: kimber62372 on October 16, 2014, 08:19:38 pm
Well I found some FREE cursive apps on Google Play!! :) I will download one to introduce to my son because if I was taught script in school, my son will also learn it as well! America is becoming FAT and LAZY because the Government does not want to pay their educators more money! Shame on you America! Getting rid of the president is a good start to "UN-dumbing America"... see... I used a non existing word! haha  :P
Title: Re: Cursive writing
Post by: luvh8tragedy87 on October 16, 2014, 10:08:27 pm
I'm not sure about here but I think it's sad that some schools are not teaching it anymore. When I was younger I was taught a signature was cursive. Also I think my cursive handwriting is a lot nicer to look at than my printing.
Title: Re: Cursive writing
Post by: hawkeye3210 on October 17, 2014, 05:19:39 am
Well I found some FREE cursive apps on Google Play!! :) I will download one to introduce to my son because if I was taught script in school, my son will also learn it as well! America is becoming FAT and LAZY because the Government does not want to pay their educators more money! Shame on you America! Getting rid of the president is a good start to "UN-dumbing America"... see... I used a non existing word! haha  :P

So, America is getting fat and lazy because teachers don't get paid enough? Please.
Title: Re: Cursive writing
Post by: dwggs on October 17, 2014, 06:34:57 am
I have to admit that I print most of the time .. but there are times when cursive is necessary.  Are they going to teach them to print their signatures now??
Title: Re: Cursive writing
Post by: lvstephanie on October 17, 2014, 08:23:24 am
I dont' know anyone that can print as fast as they can write in cursive. 

Well, now you do know someone that prints MUCH faster than cursive (at least if I want it to be legible). In fact I think it was more beneficial in college for me since I didn't have to concentrate on forming the letters so that it'd be legible, allowing me to look up from my notes to look at the board / screen to see what the teacher was doing. I learn easiest by watching, so if I had to keep looking down at my paper while taking notes by writing in a style that was more difficult for me to form legibly, I wouldn't learn as well as I did.

As for signatures, you just need something that identifies that the person is accepting the legal consequences of whatever they signed; however it doesn't need to be written in cursive. In fact when more of the population was illiterate, most would sign by placing an X on the line (ie make their mark). I have a friend whose first and last name share the same initial, so instead of signing their name, they make their mark by writing that letter surrounded by a circle (sort of like @ only using a different letter than 'a'). People suggest that you use cursive so as to prevent people from more easily forging the signature (and mine must be the worst to try to forge, since I can't even duplicate the same signature myself with my cursive that horrid).
Title: Re: Cursive writing
Post by: SherylsShado on October 17, 2014, 08:39:17 am
I too can print faster than cursive.  I remember learning cursive in school & the teacher was determined that I was going to have great handwriting.  All year long, I was assigned extra assignments and told to re-do most of them.  Finally she gave up & said she highly recommended I become a doctor because no one can read their writing anyway.  I write stuff and even I can't tell what it says later.  Printing looks so much neater to me, and typed...even better.

I still agree kids should be taught cursive though.  I've seen people with really nice handwriting.  It's nice to know how to do.
Title: Re: Cursive writing
Post by: 6265AT99 on October 17, 2014, 09:22:21 am
I'm on your side 100%!  I believe it's just another way of making kids dumb by not teaching them cursive.  One thing is for sure if I still had children in school and they didn't learn cursive, I would teach them myself!!
Title: Re: Cursive writing
Post by: alice44 on October 17, 2014, 11:25:53 am
I don't know what our local school do, but I am aware many are not teaching cursive writing.  I also feel this is too bad.  They surely teach them how to read cursive, why can't they teach them how to write?
Title: Re: Cursive writing
Post by: kimber62372 on October 17, 2014, 01:46:49 pm
For all who is against this post, it's everyone's right to have their OWN opinion, so be NICE! Let me give you all a scenario and maybe it will make you use your brain and think:

I work in a court of law, a young girl was suppose to testify, I believe she was 18 or 19 yrs old. The prosecutor handed her a piece of paper with writing on it that was submitted into evidence. She says to the Prosecutor, "I'm sorry, I can't read this." The Prosecutor responded with "And why not may I ask?". Young girl: "I don't know how to read script."

ENOUGH SAID!   :o :P
Title: Re: Cursive writing
Post by: hawkeye3210 on October 17, 2014, 02:46:18 pm
For all who is against this post, it's everyone's right to have their OWN opinion, so be NICE! Let me give you all a scenario and maybe it will make you use your brain and think:

I work in a court of law, a young girl was suppose to testify, I believe she was 18 or 19 yrs old. The prosecutor handed her a piece of paper with writing on it that was submitted into evidence. She says to the Prosecutor, "I'm sorry, I can't read this." The Prosecutor responded with "And why not may I ask?". Young girl: "I don't know how to read script."

ENOUGH SAID!   :o :P

If cursive wasn't taught in schools, people wouldn't use it and therefore there wouldn't be any need to be able to read it. Similar to shorthand.

I could care less if cursive is taught or not, but I have yet to read one legitimate reason why it absolutely needs to be taught. Even when I was in school, most people had abandoned using cursive by the time they were in high school. Whether it is now or later, the writing has been on the wall for awhile now. As the trend continues, with less and less people using cursive, it's going to stop being taught in schools.
Title: Re: Cursive writing
Post by: monnee on October 17, 2014, 03:26:43 pm
Most schools now use laptops or ipads.  It's all touch screen or keypads.
Title: Re: Cursive writing
Post by: aflyingmonkey on October 18, 2014, 10:36:28 am
Well I found some FREE cursive apps on Google Play!! :) I will download one to introduce to my son because if I was taught script in school, my son will also learn it as well! America is becoming FAT and LAZY because the Government does not want to pay their educators more money! Shame on you America! Getting rid of the president is a good start to "UN-dumbing America"... see... I used a non existing word! haha  :P

California pays their educators VERY well.   Teachers top pay is about $80,000 a year, they begin at apx $42,000 & move up real fast.  They get all holidays & summer vacation off (3 months), so that wage is based on apx 8 months of work.  In 20 years of working, they get a pension that pays almost $80,000 a year & that is for the rest of their life; it's a nice way to retire.    A couple retired teachers in my family are currently teaching at a university part-time & still collecting their $80,000 teachers' pension (which they worked for) they got when they retired.  They are only in their 60s.   

If your state is paying educators enough, come to California, they pay well.   & YET California has one of the least ranked Education system in the United States.   
Title: Re: Cursive writing
Post by: patti4me on October 18, 2014, 11:24:10 am
I think its outrageous to do away with cursive writing!  There are so many things that have changed in our school systems that are not right.  That's one of the ways the "dummying down" of our country is happening.  They don't even teach correct history in our schools anymore.  Sad, so sad!
Title: Re: Cursive writing
Post by: camellia0 on October 18, 2014, 02:19:26 pm
I'm guessing that cursive writing is almost non existent because there are so many people living in the area and I'm guessing it's more important for them to learn to write period. But as an adult, I don't write in cursive either, except when I sign my checks.
Title: Re: Cursive writing
Post by: kimber62372 on October 19, 2014, 03:44:02 pm
Thank you all for your input! I'm just furious because I still have a young child in school. Those who could care less probably don't have any kids in school. It's just how things were always taught and what we know now is something our children will not know in the future! Hence the dumbing down America!  :peace:
Title: Re: Cursive writing
Post by: hawkeye3210 on October 20, 2014, 02:28:38 pm
Thank you all for your input! I'm just furious because I still have a young child in school. Those who could care less probably don't have any kids in school. It's just how things were always taught and what we know now is something our children will not know in the future! Hence the dumbing down America!  :peace:

If cursive is no longer taught in schools, something else will be taught in its place. Kids aren’t going to be “dumbed down.”
 
The “dumb” thing to do would be to continue to teach the same things year after year without evaluating the curriculum to see what is actually important for kids to learn. Fifty or so years ago children were taught short-hand and were taught nothing on computers. Obvious reasons for that, but do you think that would be the proper way to educate children today? Of course not.  The intelligent thing to do is to adapt. I was taught cursive in 1994, and now in 2014 like most people I know my age, no longer use any cursive. The real question is learning cursive writing in 2014, going to be a necessary skill in 2034? Things change. When I was taught, we didn’t even have a computer and just a single landline telephone. Now I have a smart phone, and kids younger and younger are getting them as well.

I don’t have any children yet, but if I did, I would want them to receive an education that was going to prepare them for their future, which shouldn’t be the same education I received.  A lot of things I learned are no longer relevant or useful. I would rather my children be able to teach me things, similar to how I taught my parents how to use a computer. Education should be forward thinking.
Title: Re: Cursive writing
Post by: sherryfan on October 20, 2014, 03:56:55 pm
I think pretty soon people would forgot how to write either print or cursive writing. They may only know how to type or text.  :sweat:
Title: Re: Cursive writing
Post by: crisstar on October 20, 2014, 04:20:35 pm
I thought that the school my nephew goes to was the only one. :o

I didn't realize it was nationwide!!!

Considering the state of education in the U.S., I guess this would be low on the totem pole to worry about, however, it's still sad that this is just one more thing American students won't be taught in school.
Title: Re: Cursive writing
Post by: tuyetmai on October 20, 2014, 07:54:06 pm
I do back then, but now I don't know that kid need to learn anymore.  I don't mind writing cursive but I think it not pretty writing them. :)