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Title: Bette Midler
Post by: Mizzkizz7 on July 06, 2018, 05:17:46 pm
Bette recently stated that she was relieved Joe Jackson had died in so many words. She says she hated every minute he lived. That wasn't nice to say. What do you think? Freedom of speech? Evil? Or should she had just kept that comment to herself?
Title: Re: Bette Midler
Post by: michele2042 on July 06, 2018, 05:27:35 pm
I have no idea why she would say such a thing.   I've always loved Bette Midler's music and her outspoken nature.  But this is one of those times she should have considered how it would have made his survivors feel.   She probably should not have tweeted her feelings about the man.   That's one of the issues with Twitter and other social media sites, people will post their feelings without thinking.   
Title: Re: Bette Midler
Post by: dreamyxo on July 06, 2018, 11:17:14 pm
Did she know him personally?  Did he do something to her?  It's weird to say she hated every minute he lived like he actually did something to her.
Title: Re: Bette Midler
Post by: crisstar on July 07, 2018, 05:02:55 am
Allegedly he molested his daughters - at least two of them. It is alleged that he set his son Michael up to meet "business men" when Michael was still a kid/teen and that he would leave Michael alone with these grown men. One of his brothers (I forgot which one) said that Michael would come home after these meetings and be sick for about a week. So it sounds like Joe Jackson set up his son to get molested/raped for money- allegedly.
Title: Re: Bette Midler
Post by: Mizzkizz7 on July 07, 2018, 05:11:48 am
Allegedly he molested his daughters - at least two of them. It is alleged that he set his son Michael up to meet "business men" when Michael was still a kid/teen and that he would leave Michael alone with these grown men. One of his brothers (I forgot which one) said that Michael would come home after these meetings and be sick for about a week. So it sounds like Joe Jackson set up his son to get molested/raped for money- allegedly.
I didn't know about that. Thanks for that info.
Title: Re: Bette Midler
Post by: jenniferhoder on July 07, 2018, 06:11:12 am
Hmmmm, that sounds odd coming from someone like her. Seems that there must be more to the story we don't know.
Title: Re: Bette Midler
Post by: ktheodos on July 07, 2018, 06:50:30 am
"If you don't have something nice to say, don't say anything at all"
Title: Re: Bette Midler
Post by: bremer51 on July 07, 2018, 07:16:11 am
Its such a definite statement.  Seems like she must have a good reason to say it.
Title: Re: Bette Midler
Post by: articx on July 07, 2018, 07:47:33 am
This is freedom of speech, even if what she said wasn't nice.
Title: Re: Bette Midler
Post by: bshee58 on July 07, 2018, 07:54:59 am
She should have that kept those comments or thoughts to herself, no one should say things about hating death on a person, no matter how you feel about them. Karma will visit her, she needs to repent.
Title: Re: Bette Midler
Post by: Nancy5 on July 07, 2018, 10:09:00 am
I know he was suppose to be "hard" on his kids and would hit them with belts, but I didn't hear or know he sexually abused them.  If he did, where was Kathrine (his wife) I think if your husband is abusing your kids you are 100% aware of it.  You can either do something about it, or turn a blind eye to it.  I know what I would do and its not turning a blind eye.
Title: Re: Bette Midler
Post by: catchow on July 07, 2018, 10:30:03 am
I think people just need to keep their comments to themselves
Title: Re: Bette Midler
Post by: sfreeman8 on July 07, 2018, 01:31:53 pm
I wouldn't know what the truth is because I didn't see the tweet. Did anyone else? When I did a search, all I got was rumor mills.  Plus the fact that anyone can hack someone's Twitter account. Other well knowns have had their accounts hacked, even Trump. None of this came from her directly so I am being cautious.

I do know one of the daughters did come out and had some not so nice words about Jackson that weren't nice but I guess that story was hidden from view. .Only time will tell.

Title: Re: Bette Midler
Post by: natashaspy on July 07, 2018, 06:48:13 pm
Doesn't sound like something that should be said to the public but then again, not knowing the reasoning behind it, it's hard to really say.  From what I've heard he was a really awful person.
Title: Re: Bette Midler
Post by: Sendmicheck on July 08, 2018, 03:49:29 am
That was not a nice to say by Bette Midler. Whether Joe Jackson was good or bad he is in a better place now.
Title: Re: Bette Midler
Post by: nannycoe1 on July 08, 2018, 06:15:58 am
people can't keep their mouths shut anymore, very rude
Title: Re: Bette Midler
Post by: debidoo on July 08, 2018, 07:30:46 am
No I don't personally think it is freedom of speech more like rudeness and cruelty. I think people who are famous begin to think they can say anything they want.  And I guess they can and do but it certainly lowers my opinion of them. 
Title: Re: Bette Midler
Post by: Cbsteffen on July 08, 2018, 11:54:11 am
Sometimes we hate others so much that we want them dead, but that doesn’t mean we’d get rid of them forever. We could bump into them again in Heaven!
Title: Re: Bette Midler
Post by: vg7405 on July 08, 2018, 12:40:53 pm
I am so tired of the "freedom of speech" card that people play whenever they say some very inappropriate remarks (such as the case with Bette Midler). Especially since she is a celebrity, her words will be scrutinized heavily by the public. She better be prepared to suffer whatever backlash she receives as a result of it. Give it a few days before her publicist releases a statement (or she releases one herself) for apologizing for her remarks. Regardless of the controversial style that Joe Jackson used to raise his children, no one should be rejoicing over the man's death.
Title: Re: Bette Midler
Post by: fillfran82 on July 31, 2018, 09:06:47 pm
Bette recently stated that she was relieved Joe Jackson had died in so many words. She says she hated every minute he lived. That wasn't nice to say. What do you think? Freedom of speech? Evil? Or should she had just kept that comment to herself?

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First of all rest in peace to Joe Jackson. Now I think we all are in title to say whatever it is we want to say she just have to take responsibilities for her words. I personally think that is inappropriate to say about a dead person. Nonetheless, we don't know the reason behind her statement. :heart: :rose: :heart: :rose: :heart: :rose: :heart: :rose: :heart: :rose: :heart: :rose: :heart: :rose: :heart: :rose: :heart: :rose: :heart: :rose: :heart: :rose: :heart: :rose: :heart: :rose: :heart: :rose: :heart: :rose: :heart: :rose: :heart: :rose:
Title: Re: Bette Midler
Post by: tantricia44 on July 31, 2018, 09:14:59 pm
She must have really knew his personality to express such hatred towards him after death! Not nice but freedom of speech is her side here in the USA!
Title: Re: Bette Midler
Post by: beatsdrop on August 01, 2018, 10:11:29 am
Bette never knows how to shut up.
Title: Re: Bette Midler
Post by: nannycoe1 on August 01, 2018, 10:12:49 am
Really strange thing for her to say and very rude and unnecessary.
Title: Re: Bette Midler
Post by: autumnsparklemom on August 03, 2018, 08:47:34 am
Hmm, that is a strange statement coming from her.
Title: Re: Bette Midler
Post by: dogsleash on August 03, 2018, 09:14:00 am
Who cares if it's not . He was an sob and did not deserve respect for the things he did.
Title: Re: Bette Midler
Post by: gaby_ro_2004 on August 03, 2018, 09:53:05 am
I don't know what she said but it's her opinion,she knows better that family.
Title: Re: Bette Midler
Post by: shawnix on August 05, 2018, 03:08:38 pm
She probably should have kept the comment to herself... at least for now  :-X  Maybe in time she could've expressed exactly why she feels that way about the man, but now is too soon.  :o
Title: Re: Bette Midler
Post by: Kiraleen on August 05, 2018, 03:25:12 pm
Shrug. It's her opinion, it wasn't inciting violence toward him. People have always been glad when people they thought vile or hated died. ISTM I heard the talk of him molesting his daughters before, too, but I can't recall where.
Title: Re: Bette Midler
Post by: camellia0 on August 07, 2018, 09:00:36 pm
I am surprised that she would say something like that. Look what happened to Roseann, so I guess it is good that she does not have a job, because she would probably be fired.
Title: Re: Bette Midler
Post by: sbenkoski on August 08, 2018, 07:31:38 am
I think if some one hurts  kids,  they need to be called out and be the truth be known.
Title: Re: Bette Midler
Post by: sak4kat on August 08, 2018, 07:53:53 am
I too have always liked Bette Midler.  Who knows what's true and what's checkbook journalism anymore.  But the way I see it anyone (celebrity or not) has the right to say what they want.  When they want.  With that there are consequences.  Rosanne comes to mind.  There is also judgement.  Not our place but our human nature is to judge.  Everyone.  Dead or alive.  More importantly there is judgement from the man upstairs... ultimately we'll all have opinions but there is only one that has the power to judge.
Title: Re: Bette Midler
Post by: BEENICE on August 08, 2018, 08:03:17 am
Bette Milder, I don't care what she said about Joe Jackson. I don't even know who Joe Jackson is.
Title: Re: Bette Midler
Post by: ancmetro on August 08, 2018, 02:21:20 pm

   Some people make comments they later regret.