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Title: Saugus High School Shooting
Post by: cadence4u on November 14, 2019, 12:16:17 pm
Student gunman pulls semi-pistol out of his backpack and empties magazine on five classmates in California high school quad, killing one, before shooting himself in the head on his 16th birthday

* Shooting was reported at Saugus High School in Santa Clarita at 7.45am
* Suspect described as 16-year-old Asian male in dark clothing was taken into custody and was being treated for self-
   inflicted gunshot would to the head
* Los Angeles County Sheriff Alex Villanueva says the sole suspect was found on campus among his victims and
   hospitalized in grave condition
* A 16-year-old was shot to death; surviving victims were described as two girls, ages 14 and 15, and two boys, both
   aged 14
*Officers seized .45-caliber semi-automatic pistol that had no rounds left in it
* Lockdown lifted at all schools in surrounding area after suspect's capture
* Vigil for those hurt in the shooting will take place in Central Park in Santa Clarita at 7pm Sunday

A California student who turned 16 years old today was taken into custody and transported to a hospital for treatment after allegedly carrying out a shooting at his high school that killed two classmates and injured three others, before turning the gun on himself.

The shooting was reported at 7.38am Pacific Time at Saugus High School on Centurion Way in Santa Clarita, about 40 miles from downtown Los Angeles.

During a press conference this afternoon, Los Angeles County Sheriff Alex Villanueva revealed that officers were responded to the school within two minutes of getting the first 911 call found six students suffering from gunshot wounds, among them the suspected shooter.

According to law enforcement, surveillance video from the school showed the accused gunman pulling a .45-caliber semi-automatic pistol from his backpack, firing on five people and then shooting himself in the head.

The 16-year-old boy was taken to the hospital, where he is listed in grave condition. 

A female student, aged 16, has died of her injuries, along with a 14-year-old male student. 

The surviving victims were described as two girls, ages 14 and 15, and a boy aged 14.   

Los Angeles County Undersheriff Tim Murakami tweeted that rumors have been circulating that the shooter may have posted threats on social media. 

'If you ever learn of posted threats please notify us ASAP. It will result in an immediate investigation,' he wrote. 'We have successfully prevented possible acts of violence as a result of such reports.'

Philip Germain, a Saugus High School alum, told KTLA he is organizing a vigil for those hurt in the school shooting, which will take place at 7pm on Sunday. 

The Signal reported that one student was shot in the torso and treated by a teacher a classroom.

One of the victims was found wounded in the school choir room.   

Television images showed sheriff’s deputies swarming the school and several people being moved on gurneys.

Lines of students were escorted away from the school by armed deputies.

The Los Angeles County Sheriff's Office sent out a tweet earlier saying officers were searching to a male suspect in dark clothing.

A student called Alexa who heard gunshots before she was evacuated with her class said she and other students just ran for their lives.

She said she didn’t hear of any warnings before the alarm went off regarding a student or know who the suspect may be.

‘I heard the first gunshot which , I felt like I was running for my life, at this moment I prayed that everyone was ok and safe

‘We never heard of any threats or problems this suddenly happened, now we’re here getting evacuated from our school not knowing when we will be able to come back

She added: ‘It’s a sad world we live in’ and one which cannot be controlled.'

A mother of a student at the school tearfully told KTLA her daughter called her earlier, saying that a girl burst into their classroom after being shot and other students jumped into actions, trying to stop the bleeding. 

A student named Riley told KTLA5 that she was standing with friends by the library on campus when she heard four to five gunshots and started running.

One student described how his heroic teacher sprang into action as soon as he heard gunshots. Mason Peters told KTLA: ‘We heard this distinctive sound outside and my teacher quickly sprang to his feet, got up, locked the door, asked one of the students to get the keys.

‘We got a bunch of desks, turned off all the lights and reinforced the doors and we all just stayed hidden.’

One student who was on his way to school when the shooting happened, said officials there had an emergency drill in the last month.

Student Mason Peters said his heroic teacher spring into action after hearing gunshots and locked the classroom door   +27
Student Mason Peters said his heroic teacher spring into action after hearing gunshots and locked the classroom door

He told KTLA: ‘I was going to school when it happened, and I heard three shots and people started running. It was chaotic,

‘My sister is still in the school, she is still in the choir room and I’m waiting for her to come out.

‘We’ve had all these drills many times, they wanted us about this happening, it’s so surreal, it never felt this real

We definitely had one in the last month or so. For the most part it’s duck and cover and block.’

The mother of student Anthony Peters told NBC he was still on lockdown inside the school but had texted that he was uninjured.

'One of the teachers said, "There is an active shooter. I heard the shots and saw three kids get shot,"' Peters' mother told NBC.

Some of the wounded were being treated in a grassy area on the school's campus, the Los Angeles Times reported. At least one injured person was found in the school's choir room, authorities told the newspaper.

Many students arrive at school later at around 7.55am as they don’t have a first period on Thursday.

A student named Sean said he was training with his team and coach when they immediately locked themselves in a room. When they reinforced the door their coach led them in prayer as they stood in a circle with their hands joined.

Sean said: ‘I was walking towards the quad where it happened, I heard the shots so I rang back to the room where I was.

‘We were all texting our parents and telling them we’re ok, we were trying to keep quiet and not make noise. We weren’t sure until our coach got a call, and they cleared the building out. After that I felt safe.'

His mom, Mercedes, said she was relieved to have her son back. She said: ‘It’s just relief, there is no real sense of knowing your child is safe until you have them in your arms. I’m just trying to calm down no. He'll be my baby forever.’

Sean added: ‘I don’t know why these things happen, they just do. We ended up all joining hands and praying, and the comfort of knowing we were there .They took us to the gym, I love my mom so much and I didn’t know what to do.

‘We settled down and we went through it together.’

A mother of one student who was outside the school said the kids have regular drills to prepare for an active shooter situation. 

She told an ABC7 reporter: ‘They do multiple drills, and I always said I hate that this is the new normal but I see why now. The kids know [what to do], they should hide, shelter in place, or run if you can.

One of the students who was there with his mom claimed: ‘I know if you’re in a classroom you should just stay if there’s a teacher, if you’re already outside and really close to an exit, you should try and run but if you’re not close to an exit, you should duck into the nearest class

‘We have done lockdown drills and stuff.’

Two sisters who were outside the school with their mom appeared shaken as they told how they were reunited when the building was evacuated.

One of the girls named Emily told KTLA: ‘I never looked back, we just all kept running and people were looking for their loved ones. Everyone worked as a community it was very surprising.

‘I was like panicking the whole time, I was like my sister is in the classroom, I hope she’s ok

‘She’s here now and she was hiding, she was texting that she was so scared and it was so crazy.’

Her mom told of her terror as Emily text her saying there was a shooter in the building and she immediately rushed to the scene where she waited for news.

She said: ‘She was texting me saying there is a shooter, I was like what I couldn’t believe. It hits home so it’s been really hard, I got in my car and drove right to my school, I waited and waited and finally my daughter came running out to me

‘It was the best thing ever, she was one of the first classes let out. I found out my other daughter was with her girlfriend and mom which was like a relief.’

‘My daughter Sarah told me “mom, I’m so scared, I love you so much, please come, please come and that just killed me

‘You don’t know where they are, if they are safe, it’s so scary, I’m so glad.’

The students were brought to the Church of Latter day saints across from the high school. From there, they were taken away from the scene to Central Park where a reunification center was set up and they were being picked up by their parents.

It is understood law enforcement are trying to find out which students witnessed the incident for future legal proceedings.

The high school and other schools in the surrounding area, including Rosedell and Highland elementary schools, were placed on lockdown, which has since been lifted in the wake of the suspect's capture.

Earlier, police officers were seen surrounding a home on Sycamore Creek Drive, believed to be somehow linked to the suspect.   

People are being urged to the avoid the area during the manhunt and nearby residents are being asked to lock their doors and shelter in place.   

White House spokesman Judd Deere says President Donald Trump is monitoring the reports of the school shooting.

Deere says in a statement that those in the area are encouraged 'to follow the advice of local law enforcement and first responders.'

Democrat congressman Tim Ryan, who represents Ohio, reacted with shock at the latest school shooting incident.

In a Tweet he claimed: ‘My heart breaks for Saugus High School and the Santa Clarita community. How many more, @senatemajldr Mitch McConnell? Our children cannot keep living like this. The Senate needs to #DoSomething, we need to take action on gun violence.

Presidential candidate and California Senator Kamala Harris also tweeted: ‘heartbroken and praying for Santa Clarita. I’m incredibly grateful to the first responders who are on the scene of this active situation.

‘If you are near the area, please listen to law enforcement. Our children and communities are being terrorized. We can't accept this.’

Senator Dianne Feinstein urged the public to comply with emergency notices and said she was monitoring the ongoing situation.

California House Representative Katie Porter said her heart broke for families and students affected by the shooting and called for measures to control gun violence.

In a tweet she claimed: ‘My heart breaks for our neighbors in Santa Clarita and our children, who have to grow up in a world where they can't go to school without fear. This. Must. End. It is past time for our Senate and our President to say #EnoughIsEnough. They can start by passing H.R.8 into law.

Photos & Arlicle:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7686163/California-high-school-lockdown-six-people-shot.html

Title: Re: Saugus High School Shooting
Post by: sfreeman8 on November 14, 2019, 12:31:45 pm
It was very confusing. At first. it was 6 students injured, then 3, then 4. Shooter dead, then 4 students taken to hospital, and shooter among them. Now saying 6 and one girl dead.

Definitely sounds like a revenge shooting to me. He sought out certain students or else he would have just shot kids randomly.  Here we go again with gun control efforts. Have to see where he got the gun.
Title: Re: Saugus High School Shooting
Post by: Mizzkizz7 on November 14, 2019, 06:40:57 pm
I am saddened that schools are constantly on the news for a shooting of another student. It's so sad.
Title: Re: Saugus High School Shooting
Post by: timvolley on November 14, 2019, 09:08:51 pm
this was very sad all the shootings going on in schools. there was a stabbing today at a high school in my area
Title: Re: Saugus High School Shooting
Post by: ktheodos on November 14, 2019, 09:41:13 pm
Crazy, sad story....
Title: Re: Saugus High School Shooting
Post by: gaylasue on November 15, 2019, 03:00:41 am
My heart breaks for all involved.  I can't believe this senseless violence continues.  To beat it all, while the shooting was going on, the GOP in congress failed to pass the bill for nationwide background checks.  As it may not have prevented this shooting as the motives have not been made public, it may well help foil one in the future.  People who have crimes the want hidden shouldn't be allowed to purchase guns.
Title: Re: Saugus High School Shooting
Post by: vg7405 on November 15, 2019, 03:01:01 am
This is getting very ridiculous. I honestly do not see an end in site to these shootings...especially not any time soon. I am strongly considering homeschooling my children (or sending them to private school or something). I understand that what I said is very extreme, but I am very concerned about their safety.
Title: Re: Saugus High School Shooting
Post by: countrygirl12 on November 15, 2019, 12:05:50 pm
this was very sad all the shootings going on in schools. there was a stabbing today at a high school in my area

Well that's it.  We must ban all knives.
Title: Re: Saugus High School Shooting
Post by: aflyingmonkey on November 15, 2019, 12:57:51 pm
My heart breaks for all involved.  I can't believe this senseless violence continues.  To beat it all, while the shooting was going on, the GOP in congress failed to pass the bill for nationwide background checks.  As it may not have prevented this shooting as the motives have not been made public, it may well help foil one in the future.  People who have crimes the want hidden shouldn't be allowed to purchase guns.

Not only does California already perform background checks on gun purchases, they also perform background checks on purchases of ammunition -- no "nationwide background check" would have made a difference.
Additionally, the kid was only 16 years old, he shouldn't have had a gun & obviously had it illegally.
California has STRICT gun control laws, but criminals don't have a problem going around laws.
Title: Re: Saugus High School Shooting
Post by: darkxtsuna on November 15, 2019, 02:28:34 pm
Its really is messed up on how things like these keep happening sadly.
Title: Re: Saugus High School Shooting
Post by: surveygrabber on November 16, 2019, 12:10:24 am
That's we need to have gun control to prevent criminals from getting access to guns.
Title: Re: Saugus High School Shooting
Post by: sfreeman8 on November 16, 2019, 07:33:16 am
My heart breaks for all involved.  I can't believe this senseless violence continues.  To beat it all, while the shooting was going on, the GOP in congress failed to pass the bill for nationwide background checks.  As it may not have prevented this shooting as the motives have not been made public, it may well help foil one in the future.  People who have crimes the want hidden shouldn't be allowed to purchase guns.

You don't seem to understand that criminals can't purchase guns if they're in the system. Also, 15-year-olds can't buy guns legally. You have to be 18 to 21 to buy a gun legally so they buy them on the black market or steal them from a legal gun owner. This is why more gun control won't work. The saying "when guns are outlawed, only criminals will have guns" is true.  Criminals and underage kids (how do these kids buy guns?) will always have guns because they buy them through the black market networks.
Title: Re: Saugus High School Shooting
Post by: gtdoss on November 16, 2019, 07:39:47 am
This is so, so tragic. I can't even imagine being the mother of one of the students who were killed and injured. What's really weird is that, when I was a kid in high school in the 70s, we never ever heard of anything like this happening. There were some scattered mass shootings around the country, but definitely none in high schools. And the weird thing is, there were a bunch of guns around then, at least in my neck of the woods! I don't get it.  :( :peace:
Title: Re: Saugus High School Shooting
Post by: ngorecki on November 16, 2019, 09:07:57 am
I agree, it is very sad that these shootings continue.
Title: Re: Saugus High School Shooting
Post by: kvanwert on November 16, 2019, 12:10:44 pm
That is very sad, I hope the students, teachers, and families get the help and assistance they need to get through this tough time.
Title: Re: Saugus High School Shooting
Post by: countrygirl12 on November 16, 2019, 02:27:37 pm

This is so, so tragic. I can't even imagine being the mother of one of the students who were killed and injured. What's really weird is that, when I was a kid in high school in the 70s, we never ever heard of anything like this happening. There were some scattered mass shootings around the country, but definitely none in high schools. And the weird thing is, there were a bunch of guns around then, at least in my neck of the woods! I don't get it.  :( :peace:

It isn't a gun problem. It is a heart problem. Human life has no value any more. It isn't going to get any better. And after the Rapture things will really get bad.
Title: Re: Saugus High School Shooting
Post by: potluck6 on November 16, 2019, 02:50:18 pm
True went to school in the seventies never heard of this gun violence happening. Seems like disturbed kids are doing this. How horrible for the families.
Title: Re: Saugus High School Shooting
Post by: jenniferhoder on November 17, 2019, 05:10:21 am
I am not quite sure what the solution is, but something certainly needs to change. We are losing too many young lives too young. Guns don't kill people; people kill people. We need to remember this. Very very sad and I know it's not going to stop without our something being done.
Title: Re: Saugus High School Shooting
Post by: countrygirl12 on November 18, 2019, 09:46:09 am
I am not quite sure what the solution is, but something certainly needs to change. We are losing too many young lives too young. Guns don't kill people; people kill people. We need to remember this. Very very sad and I know it's not going to stop without our something being done.

If it wasn't guns it would be something else.  Stabbed with a knife, driving a car in to a crowd of people, home made bombs, you name it.  There is NOTHING you can do.  It has gone too far.  People have set back and let evil prevail too long.  Now they are in control.
Title: Re: Saugus High School Shooting
Post by: madeara on November 18, 2019, 01:40:21 pm
How tragic.  The violence needs to stop.
Title: Re: Saugus High School Shooting
Post by: killers2 on November 18, 2019, 02:16:42 pm
Sorry to hear of this shooting.  I think some regulation might help a bit.  Not saying I'm not a second amendment defender.