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Title: Don't wish me a Happy Mother's Day
Post by: dreamyxo on May 07, 2021, 10:06:39 pm
I'm not a mother.  I was wished a Happy Mother's Day by a stranger today.  I said I'm not a mother.  Then he said well happy Ladies Day.   ::)  I get mildly annoyed when people do that and it's only men who seem to do it.  It's happened several times through the years.  Don't assume that just because I'm a female that I have kids.  Only wish people who you know are mothers a Happy Mother's Day.  I don't go around wishing random strangers happy Mother's or Father's Day I don't know them. 
Title: Re: Don't wish me a Happy Mother's Day
Post by: 1imaginarygirl on May 08, 2021, 08:01:15 am
It seems like a pretty trivial thing to get upset about. I'm not a mother either, but I just say thanks and move on. I also don't celebrate holidays, but I've gotten "Happy Birthday" and "Merry Christmas" every year. What's the point in getting mad about it?
Title: Re: Don't wish me a Happy Mother's Day
Post by: mrsmere on May 08, 2021, 08:50:34 am
I never got upset about it when I wasn't a mother.  My younger siblings land other people looked to me as a mother figure or God mother.   You don't have to give birth to a child to be a mother.
Title: Re: Don't wish me a Happy Mother's Day
Post by: countrygirl12 on May 08, 2021, 04:10:24 pm
I'm not a mother.  I was wished a Happy Mother's Day by a stranger today.  I said I'm not a mother.  Then he said well happy Ladies Day.   ::)  I get mildly annoyed when people do that and it's only men who seem to do it.  It's happened several times through the years.  Don't assume that just because I'm a female that I have kids.  Only wish people who you know are mothers a Happy Mother's Day.  I don't go around wishing random strangers happy Mother's or Father's Day I don't know them. 

No it is not only men who do it. I agree with you about not saying that to people you do not know or people who aren't your mother.  Years ago I worked retail and some idiot wished me Happy Mother's Day.  I kind of went off on them.  NO it is not a HAPPY Mother's Day for me.  I am here and not with my mom on Mother's Day.

Also I remember being in Dollar Tree the Saturday before Mother's Day and this lady was buying the fake flowers. Some foolish person is like oh Happy Mother's Day.  At which point she lost it.  I knew who she was.  Although did not know her personally.  She was buying flowers for her daughter's grave.  Her only child. 

I don't care if the person has kids or not if it is not your mother or close family you should not say that to them.
Title: Re: Don't wish me a Happy Mother's Day
Post by: countrygirl12 on May 08, 2021, 04:12:05 pm
It seems like a pretty trivial thing to get upset about. I'm not a mother either, but I just say thanks and move on. I also don't celebrate holidays, but I've gotten "Happy Birthday" and "Merry Christmas" every year. What's the point in getting mad about it?

Not really.  You do not know people's situation.  What if that person has just lost their mother?  A lady I know died last Sunday.  She has kids.  They buried their mother this week.  I doubt they want people wishing them a Happy Mother's Day.  Or what if the person has lost a child?  Or can't have children and wanted them?
Title: Re: Don't wish me a Happy Mother's Day
Post by: linderlizzie on May 08, 2021, 04:23:55 pm
I'm also of the opinion that you not wish Happy Mother's Day to just anyone.

There can be a myriad of circumstances that would make it uncomfortable for some.  :-[
Title: Re: Don't wish me a Happy Mother's Day
Post by: alina6 on May 08, 2021, 04:25:14 pm
It seems like a pretty trivial thing to get upset about. I'm not a mother either, but I just say thanks and move on. I also don't celebrate holidays, but I've gotten "Happy Birthday" and "Merry Christmas" every year. What's the point in getting mad about it?
Yeah - I agree with you. Only say Happy Mother's Day to people you know are mothers and know the story behind it.

Not really.  You do not know people's situation.  What if that person has just lost their mother?  A lady I know died last Sunday.  She has kids.  They buried their mother this week.  I doubt they want people wishing them a Happy Mother's Day.  Or what if the person has lost a child?  Or can't have children and wanted them?
Title: Re: Don't wish me a Happy Mother's Day
Post by: alina6 on May 08, 2021, 04:25:35 pm
I'm also of the opinion that you not wish Happy Mother's Day to just anyone.

There can be a myriad of circumstances that would make it uncomfortable for some.  :-[


I agree
Title: Re: Don't wish me a Happy Mother's Day
Post by: ssarber on May 08, 2021, 05:34:17 pm
Having just lost my son less than a year ago, (and having had 2 miscarriages) I am a mother only to angels, not living children. It is very painful, but I wouldnt be angry about someone saying it. It is a nice thing than most are appreciative to hear. I would rather folks say something nice to me (even if it hurts a lot) then be negative. It is like folks saying Merry Christmas or other things. I guess I dont understand why folks get so bent out of shape over the simple things.
Title: Re: Don't wish me a Happy Mother's Day
Post by: 1imaginarygirl on May 08, 2021, 08:06:49 pm
It seems like a pretty trivial thing to get upset about. I'm not a mother either, but I just say thanks and move on. I also don't celebrate holidays, but I've gotten "Happy Birthday" and "Merry Christmas" every year. What's the point in getting mad about it?

Not really.  You do not know people's situation.  What if that person has just lost their mother?  A lady I know died last Sunday.  She has kids.  They buried their mother this week.  I doubt they want people wishing them a Happy Mother's Day.  Or what if the person has lost a child?  Or can't have children and wanted them?

Well if they don't know your situation, you shouldn't expect them to know what to say or what not to say. They can't read your mind. They're just trying to be friendly and say something nice. There's no point in getting mad about it.
Title: Re: Don't wish me a Happy Mother's Day
Post by: cateyes1 on May 09, 2021, 02:57:33 am
I will say Happy Mothers day and if the person mentions that they lost their Mom, well, then I say Happy Heavenly Mothers day. We ALL have Moms whether they are still with us or not......Happy Heavenly Mothers Day Mom, I miss and love you so much <3  I find it sad to not at least say SOMETHING ...JMT 
Title: Re: Don't wish me a Happy Mother's Day
Post by: UGetPaid on May 09, 2021, 01:22:58 pm
Throw me into the category who thinks that people need to chill out a bit at being offended by something that is clearly intended as a kind gesture. I don't typically go around wishing Happy Mother's Day to complete strangers - not because I am afraid of offending them, but just because I don't typically strike up conversations with strangers.


Another thing that I typically would not do is bite off the head of someone who was trying to offer a kind gesture to me - even if it does not apply to me personally.


This story is apples to the oranges of the topic, but I think it still applies.


Several years ago I had an incident where I threw my back out and it was excruciating for me to walk. I was able to alleviate some of that pain through the use of a cane. I had to travel somewhere for work one day and stopped in a fast food place for lunch. I used my cane to get around and some stranger saw my mobility problems as I walked past his table. Rather than just let me go by, he had a look of concern on his face and he outright asked me if I had been injured in the service. I quickly set him straight that it was just a temporary setback and thanked him for his concern. He was about to thank me for my 'sacrifice' without knowing me or my circumstances.


I cannot express the internal pride I felt for this man's gesture - even though it was incomplete and incorrect - and I tried to express that 'gratitude' back toward him for the obvious respect he would have shown had my situation matched his presumption. If I had snapped back at him: "I just have a bad back you imbecile!" what purpose would that have served to him or to me?


I know this is not the same situation as the person wishing a Happy Mother's Day to someone who doesn't fit the bill. But responding to a mistaken compliment or an attempted kind gesture with hostility is pretty lousy in my opinion.
Title: Re: Don't wish me a Happy Mother's Day
Post by: Donnamarg323 on May 09, 2021, 01:39:23 pm
Throw me into the category who thinks that people need to chill out a bit at being offended by something that is clearly intended as a kind gesture. I don't typically go around wishing Happy Mother's Day to complete strangers - not because I am afraid of offending them, but just because I don't typically strike up conversations with strangers.


Another thing that I typically would not do is bite off the head of someone who was trying to offer a kind gesture to me - even if it does not apply to me personally.


This story is apples to the oranges of the topic, but I think it still applies.


Several years ago I had an incident where I threw my back out and it was excruciating for me to walk. I was able to alleviate some of that pain through the use of a cane. I had to travel somewhere for work one day and stopped in a fast food place for lunch. I used my cane to get around and some stranger saw my mobility problems as I walked past his table. Rather than just let me go by, he had a look of concern on his face and he outright asked me if I had been injured in the service. I quickly set him straight that it was just a temporary setback and thanked him for his concern. He was about to thank me for my 'sacrifice' without knowing me or my circumstances.


I cannot express the internal pride I felt for this man's gesture - even though it was incomplete and incorrect - and I tried to express that 'gratitude' back toward him for the obvious respect he would have shown had my situation matched his presumption. If I had snapped back at him: "I just have a bad back you imbecile!" what purpose would that have served to him or to me?


I know this is not the same situation as the person wishing a Happy Mother's Day to someone who doesn't fit the bill. But responding to a mistaken compliment or an attempted kind gesture with hostility is pretty lousy in my opinion.
To be kind is a fruitage of Gods spirit.

As many of you know the JWs dont celebrate Xmas,Easter etc because if a certain holiday comes from pagan origin it goes against what Jehovah has said that there are NO other gods before or after him.Satan is Gods enemy and if the celebration originated with him there is NO way Jehovah will support Satan.

However tho his people remain neutral and they would still say thank-you if they are wished merry Xmas and it ends there.The witness RE whys they dont celebrate certain holidays is explained with the discernment the other person wants to know why.......or might wanna know why and they use the bible to back them up or illustrate how God feels about it.

Title: Re: Don't wish me a Happy Mother's Day
Post by: UGetPaid on May 09, 2021, 02:29:30 pm

As many of you know the JWs dont celebrate Xmas,Easter etc because if a certain holiday comes from pagan origin it goes against what Jehovah has said that there are NO other gods before or after him.Satan is Gods enemy and if the celebration originated with him there is NO way Jehovah will support Satan.

Not sure how a Mother's Day thread turned into another diatribe against Christian holidays, but since you are going to say it, I am going to refute it...


Neither Christmas nor Easter are Satanic.  :angel11:


Carry on...
Title: Re: Don't wish me a Happy Mother's Day
Post by: Donnamarg323 on May 09, 2021, 04:59:13 pm

As many of you know the JWs dont celebrate Xmas,Easter etc because if a certain holiday comes from pagan origin it goes against what Jehovah has said that there are NO other gods before or after him.Satan is Gods enemy and if the celebration originated with him there is NO way Jehovah will support Satan.

Not sure how a Mother's Day thread turned into another diatribe against Christian holidays, but since you are going to say it, I am going to refute it...


Neither Christmas nor Easter are Satanic.  :angel11:


Carry on...
I dont think you care but JW.org will gladly explain why with proof <That you dont have even tho you say you support bible but somehow miss it>
 
Yes it will even explain Mothers day came from pagan gods and Jehovah says quit touching the unclean thing if it originated with Satan.

Xmas Easter and Trinity nowheres to be found in Bible and You know Jesus said to memorialize his death im sure.But again you say you support bible....LOL!!!

The nativity scene turns into a murderous bloodbath of 2 yr old children in Math 2 and U say that Xmas isnt Satanic...LOL!

Did JJ just move in with you?

Its becoming more clear why U support Trump.

You dont need a level playing field,you need a TRUE follower of Jesus as an interpeter and then i guess that wont even help from what i am hearing.

https://youtu.be/lh67x9iDCjg
Title: Re: Don't wish me a Happy Mother's Day
Post by: UGetPaid on May 10, 2021, 03:31:55 am
Did JJ just move in with you?

Its becoming more clear why U support Trump.


I do not understand your need to bring up Jedi Johnnie when dialoging with me. We are different people. The fact that we both believe in the holiness of Christmas and Easter celebrations does not make us roommates.


I also do not understand what my political persuasions have to do with my Christian beliefs. Granted, Trump was a supporter of many of the Christian values, but he falls quite short on many other Christian values. Those are still two very different philosophies - and for me, Trump was merely the lesser of two evils when it came to Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden. So I am still confused how my defense of an attack on Christianity shows my support for Trump.


But go ahead and continue...


This was a Mother's Day thread that you hijacked and turned into a diatribe against Satanist/Christian beliefs.
I won't continue to draw the conversation away from Mother's Day, but as I have in the past, I will speak up when I see a ridiculous claim of perverting Christian beliefs into Satanic B.S.


I've said my peace and you will no doubt have the last word. My decision to not respond further is not a concession to your argument, but a choice to not further spiral the discussion away from Mother's Day.
But I'm sure we will have some dialog in other threads elsewhere!   ;)


Happy Mother's Day!  :rose: :heart: :rose:
Title: Re: Don't wish me a Happy Mother's Day
Post by: ghunter on May 10, 2021, 06:38:36 am
What's the big deal people, so people say Happy Mother's Day or Merry Christmas, why must everyone takes things so personal.
Title: Re: Don't wish me a Happy Mother's Day
Post by: countrygirl12 on May 10, 2021, 09:34:29 am
What's the big deal people, so people say Happy Mother's Day or Merry Christmas, why must everyone takes things so personal.

Clearly you have not read the other comments. Mother's Day is for YOUR mother. It is not Woman's Day. So yes it is upsetting to someone who just lost their child or just lost their mother for someone who does not even know them to walk up and say Happy Mother's Day.  Christmas is not at all the same thing.
Title: Re: Don't wish me a Happy Mother's Day
Post by: cathy37 on May 10, 2021, 10:46:30 am
I think it is just a polite thing to do even if they don't know whether you are a mother or not.  My daughter lost her 4 year old son last year on Easter Sunday, but she is still a mother.  She has step children and is now pregnant again.
Title: Re: Don't wish me a Happy Mother's Day
Post by: potluck6 on May 10, 2021, 11:38:27 am
Jehovah  witnesses  get out alot trouble we go. through
Title: Re: Don't wish me a Happy Mother's Day
Post by: Donnamarg323 on May 10, 2021, 12:31:48 pm
Did JJ just move in with you?

Its becoming more clear why U support Trump.


I do not understand your need to bring up Jedi Johnnie when dialoging with me. We are different people. The fact that we both believe in the holiness of Christmas and Easter celebrations does not make us roommates.


I also do not understand what my political persuasions have to do with my Christian beliefs. Granted, Trump was a supporter of many of the Christian values, but he falls quite short on many other Christian values. Those are still two very different philosophies - and for me, Trump was merely the lesser of two evils when it came to Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden. So I am still confused how my defense of an attack on Christianity shows my support for Trump.


But go ahead and continue...


This was a Mother's Day thread that you hijacked and turned into a diatribe against Satanist/Christian beliefs.
I won't continue to draw the conversation away from Mother's Day, but as I have in the past, I will speak up when I see a ridiculous claim of perverting Christian beliefs into Satanic B.S.


I've said my peace and you will no doubt have the last word. My decision to not respond further is not a concession to your argument, but a choice to not further spiral the discussion away from Mother's Day.
But I'm sure we will have some dialog in other threads elsewhere!   ;)


Happy Mother's Day!  :rose: :heart: :rose:
Gods command says to honor your parents.Simply put that is 365 days out of the yr NOT just 1 day.

Xtian holidays?I dont think so.Xtian means to follow Jesus.Jesus backs up completely what his father says when he says if you have seen me you also have seen the father cos they were so much alike but NOT the same person as trinity says.

As i said many times Satan is Jehovahs enemy.All the manmade/Satanic holidays had their beginnings with false gods.God says to quit touching what is unclean.

The research is there if you care to check furthur.JW.org.

It looks like you might just support SOME of the bible like many others.

I have to add this.So you say Xtian holidays.So i gues you feel Memorial Day is a Xtian holiday?

You really feel Jesus supports Memorial Day when........

He said my kingdom is no part of this world......

Satan is the ruler of this world.....

Whoever draws the sword will die by it.

Then you have the nerve to say i hijack threads when i put bible truths up?

As ive said many times if 1 person gets hold of these bible truths they were worth putting up.

Nationalism certainly is a tool of Satan.
Title: Re: Don't wish me a Happy Mother's Day
Post by: 1imaginarygirl on May 10, 2021, 08:21:26 pm
What's the big deal people, so people say Happy Mother's Day or Merry Christmas, why must everyone takes things so personal.

Clearly you have not read the other comments. Mother's Day is for YOUR mother. It is not Woman's Day. So yes it is upsetting to someone who just lost their child or just lost their mother for someone who does not even know them to walk up and say Happy Mother's Day.  Christmas is not at all the same thing.

Ok then, what if someone lost a loved one on Christmas? I'm sure every time the holiday season rolls around, it brings some heartache with it. How are you supposed to know not to say Merry Christmas to them? I lost my grandma and more recently my aunt both on Easter, but people still say Happy Easter to me. I don't get upset about it, because how would they know. Everyone has lost someone at some point.
Title: Re: Don't wish me a Happy Mother's Day
Post by: Donnamarg323 on May 12, 2021, 06:26:35 pm
What's the big deal people, so people say Happy Mother's Day or Merry Christmas, why must everyone takes things so personal.

Clearly you have not read the other comments. Mother's Day is for YOUR mother. It is not Woman's Day. So yes it is upsetting to someone who just lost their child or just lost their mother for someone who does not even know them to walk up and say Happy Mother's Day.  Christmas is not at all the same thing.

Ok then, what if someone lost a loved one on Christmas? I'm sure every time the holiday season rolls around, it brings some heartache with it. How are you supposed to know not to say Merry Christmas to them? I lost my grandma and more recently my aunt both on Easter, but people still say Happy Easter to me. I don't get upset about it, because how would they know. Everyone has lost someone at some point.
My mom passed on 12/18/1992.1 week before Xmas.

Of course i knew from long ago that Xmas is a pagan holiday.It didnt matter what the date was.It was still gonna be sad to me.

When a loved one passes near one of these manmade holidays it shouldnt matter.Death is an enemy yr round to the human race.
Title: Re: Don't wish me a Happy Mother's Day
Post by: dsawan on May 12, 2021, 08:33:41 pm
to me a waste of time
Title: Re: Don't wish me a Happy Mother's Day
Post by: countrygirl12 on May 13, 2021, 07:50:29 am
What's the big deal people, so people say Happy Mother's Day or Merry Christmas, why must everyone takes things so personal.

Clearly you have not read the other comments. Mother's Day is for YOUR mother. It is not Woman's Day. So yes it is upsetting to someone who just lost their child or just lost their mother for someone who does not even know them to walk up and say Happy Mother's Day.  Christmas is not at all the same thing.

Ok then, what if someone lost a loved one on Christmas? I'm sure every time the holiday season rolls around, it brings some heartache with it. How are you supposed to know not to say Merry Christmas to them? I lost my grandma and more recently my aunt both on Easter, but people still say Happy Easter to me. I don't get upset about it, because how would they know. Everyone has lost someone at some point.

It is not the same thing. Clearly we just disagree. Mother's Day is for YOUR mother. I agree with the orig poster.  If you do not know me don't come up to me and wish me a Happy Mother's Day.  As for wishing other holidays honestly I don't really do that any more either. I am finding that the less convo you have with random people the happier you are.
Title: Re: Don't wish me a Happy Mother's Day
Post by: potluck6 on May 13, 2021, 04:46:17 pm
Ill just bet they  don't say happy father's day to men  like women. Unless a  kids with you.
Title: Re: Don't wish me a Happy Mother's Day
Post by: ssarber on May 13, 2021, 05:27:07 pm
What's the big deal people, so people say Happy Mother's Day or Merry Christmas, why must everyone takes things so personal.

I agree. My only child died a year ago. It is hard to hear Happy Mothers day, but I certainly am not going to get offended by someone being nice. Folks need to chill out and quit being offended over absolutely everything.
Title: Re: Don't wish me a Happy Mother's Day
Post by: teresa3200 on May 15, 2021, 04:42:53 pm
I am a mom, but I can understand why that could be a little annoying.
Title: Re: Don't wish me a Happy Mother's Day
Post by: UGetPaid on May 17, 2021, 02:53:55 am
Folks need to chill out and quit being offended over absolutely everything.


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THIS is 100% true!
Title: Re: Don't wish me a Happy Mother's Day
Post by: countrygirl12 on May 18, 2021, 07:13:57 am
What's the big deal people, so people say Happy Mother's Day or Merry Christmas, why must everyone takes things so personal.

I agree. My only child died a year ago. It is hard to hear Happy Mothers day, but I certainly am not going to get offended by someone being nice. Folks need to chill out and quit being offended over absolutely everything.

And people need to chill out and quit trying to control others or being all butt hurt because someone else has a different opinion.  It is wrong to judge someone and acting like they are a bad person or offended by everything because they do not want strangers telling them Happy Mother's Day.  I am not "offended" but if you don't know me and you are not my child do not tell me Happy Mother's Day.  A few years ago I had to work on Mother's Day and yes it made me mad for customers to come through and tell me Happy Mother's Day. NO it was not a happy day for me.  I spend the entire day at work.
Title: Re: Don't wish me a Happy Mother's Day
Post by: countrygirl12 on May 18, 2021, 07:18:48 am
Folks need to chill out and quit being offended over absolutely everything.


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THIS is 100% true!

Just because someone does not like something does not mean they are "being offended".  I guarantee some of the ones who are the most vocal speaking out against people saying you should not say that to people you do not know would be upset if they were in town and their mother had just died a few days before Mother's Day or their child had just died - they would get upset by strangers telling them Happy Mother's Day.  If your only child died the day before Mother's Day you would not want some random idiot stranger all smiley and happy oh you have a Happy Mother's Day.  ::)
And yes that actually happened locally.  A young child died on Saturday, the day before Mother's Day. I could not imagine how she would feel if some idiot yapped Happy Mother's Day at her.
Title: Re: Don't wish me a Happy Mother's Day
Post by: UGetPaid on May 18, 2021, 08:23:14 am

Folks need to chill out and quit being offended over absolutely everything.

Just because someone does not like something does not mean they are "being offended". 


I can agree to your point that there is a difference between not liking something and being offended by something. But I also think that snapping at someone who is obviously trying to be kind is an inappropriate reaction. If the "Happy Mothers Day" greeting is voiced with contempt or with the obvious intent to cause someone to get upset - then lashing out would be a wholly appropriate reaction. But if it the greeting is voiced with kindness or respect by someone who does not know the recipient's situation, I think the proper reaction would be to thank them for the sentiment and move on OR to thank them for the sentiment and then explain why it is not a happy day for you because of X,Y,Z.


I guarantee than most people who did not know about the negative situation, but were only trying to be nice would immediately apologize for any pain that their utterance might have caused (provided that the person explained the reason for their grief as opposed to angrily lashing out about it). I know that would be my reaction in that situation.


Not trying to antagonize, but I do disagree with the opinion that wishing a Happy {Whatever} Day is a greeting only meant for that own person's mother/father/sibling/child/etc. My own perspective, but I am quite appreciative of any Happy Father's Day wishes I receive from friends, family, or complete strangers. I don't recall a situation where I received such a greeting prior to my fatherhood, but it would not have bothered me.


I don't ask people if they are Christian before I wish them a Merry Christmas or a Happy Easter when we are in those seasons. But I purposely choose not to use the neutralized "Happy Holidays" greeting.



Title: Re: Don't wish me a Happy Mother's Day
Post by: stevensm4 on May 18, 2021, 09:32:24 am
Folks need to chill out and quit being offended over absolutely everything.


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THIS is 100% true!

Just because someone does not like something does not mean they are "being offended".  I guarantee some of the ones who are the most vocal speaking out against people saying you should not say that to people you do not know would be upset if they were in town and their mother had just died a few days before Mother's Day or their child had just died - they would get upset by strangers telling them Happy Mother's Day.  If your only child died the day before Mother's Day you would not want some random idiot stranger all smiley and happy oh you have a Happy Mother's Day.  ::)
And yes that actually happened locally.  A young child died on Saturday, the day before Mother's Day. I could not imagine how she would feel if some idiot yapped Happy Mother's Day at her.

Why does the stranger have to be an idiot when the problem lies with the person that has an issue with it?
Title: Re: Don't wish me a Happy Mother's Day
Post by: berthabutt on May 19, 2021, 12:33:38 am
                        Chillax!  A buttercup blooms from the pile of dog poo in your backyard.   :rose: :turkey:
Title: Re: Don't wish me a Happy Mother's Day
Post by: countrygirl12 on May 19, 2021, 07:26:44 am

Folks need to chill out and quit being offended over absolutely everything.

Just because someone does not like something does not mean they are "being offended". 


I can agree to your point that there is a difference between not liking something and being offended by something. But I also think that snapping at someone who is obviously trying to be kind is an inappropriate reaction. If the "Happy Mothers Day" greeting is voiced with contempt or with the obvious intent to cause someone to get upset - then lashing out would be a wholly appropriate reaction. But if it the greeting is voiced with kindness or respect by someone who does not know the recipient's situation, I think the proper reaction would be to thank them for the sentiment and move on OR to thank them for the sentiment and then explain why it is not a happy day for you because of X,Y,Z.


I guarantee than most people who did not know about the negative situation, but were only trying to be nice would immediately apologize for any pain that their utterance might have caused (provided that the person explained the reason for their grief as opposed to angrily lashing out about it). I know that would be my reaction in that situation.


Not trying to antagonize, but I do disagree with the opinion that wishing a Happy {Whatever} Day is a greeting only meant for that own person's mother/father/sibling/child/etc. My own perspective, but I am quite appreciative of any Happy Father's Day wishes I receive from friends, family, or complete strangers. I don't recall a situation where I received such a greeting prior to my fatherhood, but it would not have bothered me.


I don't ask people if they are Christian before I wish them a Merry Christmas or a Happy Easter when we are in those seasons. But I purposely choose not to use the neutralized "Happy Holidays" greeting.



Then we disagree.  Clearly Mother's Day is for YOUR MOTHER.  It is a personal holiday. Kind of like someone telling you Happy Birthday on MY Birthday.  I have never "lashed out" at anyone.   I did get upset when customers kept saying that to me when I was working retail.  No it was not a good day for me.   I wanted to be with my family not working.  Everyone is different and everyone has a right to their own opinion.  I actually don't say Happy anything any more.  The same retail place I mentioned earlier I said Merry Christmas to someone and they person literally flipped out in a physotic rage.

As for the Happy Father's Day - that is great for you.  I assume you still have your father and you have kids so it's all good.  It is different for someone who no longer has their father or does not have kids.  Maybe their child died, maybe they wanted kids and could not have them.  I can just see why people would be upset by the comment if you don't know them.
Title: Re: Don't wish me a Happy Mother's Day
Post by: countrygirl12 on May 19, 2021, 07:28:45 am
Folks need to chill out and quit being offended over absolutely everything.


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THIS is 100% true!

Just because someone does not like something does not mean they are "being offended".  I guarantee some of the ones who are the most vocal speaking out against people saying you should not say that to people you do not know would be upset if they were in town and their mother had just died a few days before Mother's Day or their child had just died - they would get upset by strangers telling them Happy Mother's Day.  If your only child died the day before Mother's Day you would not want some random idiot stranger all smiley and happy oh you have a Happy Mother's Day.  ::)
And yes that actually happened locally.  A young child died on Saturday, the day before Mother's Day. I could not imagine how she would feel if some idiot yapped Happy Mother's Day at her.

Why does the stranger have to be an idiot when the problem lies with the person that has an issue with it?

A person who does not want strangers wishing them Happy Mother's Day does not have issues.  So the idiot is also the person who says a woman has "issues" because she does not want strangers to wish her a Happy Mother's day.  ::)
Title: Re: Don't wish me a Happy Mother's Day
Post by: Nancy5 on May 19, 2021, 07:58:43 am
This comment isn’t about wishing anything.  I do not think elementary schools should have Lets make Happy Mothers Day or Fathers Day cards.  Let’s stop Daddy and daughter day, and mommy and daughter day.  I was 9 when my father was killed in a gas explosion on December 14. (That was a great Christmas)  I had no brothers or close uncles.  When daddy dance days, or bring daddy into school to talk about his job or hobby came up, can you imagine how I (and other kids) felt.  I would cry myself to sleep those nights, I always felt different.  This was years ago when divorce was rare and death of a parent even rarer.  Now with lots of kids without fathers for different reasons, I can only imagine how they feel.
Title: Re: Don't wish me a Happy Mother's Day
Post by: stevensm4 on May 19, 2021, 08:11:29 am
Folks need to chill out and quit being offended over absolutely everything.


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THIS is 100% true!

Just because someone does not like something does not mean they are "being offended".  I guarantee some of the ones who are the most vocal speaking out against people saying you should not say that to people you do not know would be upset if they were in town and their mother had just died a few days before Mother's Day or their child had just died - they would get upset by strangers telling them Happy Mother's Day.  If your only child died the day before Mother's Day you would not want some random idiot stranger all smiley and happy oh you have a Happy Mother's Day.  ::)
And yes that actually happened locally.  A young child died on Saturday, the day before Mother's Day. I could not imagine how she would feel if some idiot yapped Happy Mother's Day at her.

Why does the stranger have to be an idiot when the problem lies with the person that has an issue with it?

A person who does not want strangers wishing them Happy Mother's Day does not have issues.  So the idiot is also the person who says a woman has "issues" because she does not want strangers to wish her a Happy Mother's day.  ::)
And only an idiot would make a statement like this because if it were necessarily true, that same idiot wouldn't be defending those that clearly have issue with it unless it were a problem.
Title: Re: Don't wish me a Happy Mother's Day
Post by: UGetPaid on May 19, 2021, 08:24:17 am
As for the Happy Father's Day - that is great for you.  I assume you still have your father and you have kids so it's all good.  It is different for someone who no longer has their father or does not have kids. 


Since you asked/assumed, I lost my father in February six years ago to a very bad illness compounded with dementia which led to a very difficult final few weeks for him and for us. He lived several hours away from me so I did not get to see him often. I spoke to him briefly on the telephone one day and two days later I came home knowing his time was short - he was no longer able to communicate or respond to any communication. He was only able to hold my hand and squeeze it weakly when I talked to him. I was blessed to be there in the room with him when he finally stopped breathing a few days later.


Father's Days from 2015 through 2020 have all still been very special for me and I have not felt burdened on those days due to no longer having my dad with me. I would not have felt that someone wishing me a Happy Father's Day for my dad to be an idiot or insensitive. But we all react differently.


My father-in-law died three years prior to my birth. By all accounts he was a kind and generous man with whom I would have gotten along tremendously and would have dearly loved. Not only was I denied that chance, more tragically, my wife was robbed of any memories of her dad - other than what she believes is a memory of him "sleeping" on a pretty pillow (i.e. lying in his casket). She lost her mom in her early 20's. Losing both parents at such a young age affected her deeply. But she has never felt it inappropriate or idiotic for others to wish her Happy {fill-in-the-parent} Day.


But we all react differently... It's all good.
Title: Re: Don't wish me a Happy Mother's Day
Post by: Nancy5 on May 19, 2021, 08:36:54 am


My father-in-law died three years prior to my birth. By all accounts he was a kind and generous man with whom I would have gotten along tremendously and would have dearly loved. Not only was I denied that chance, more tragically, my wife was robbed of any memories of her dad - other than what she believes is a memory of him "sleeping" on a pretty pillow (i.e. lying in his casket). She lost her mom in her early 20's. Losing both parents at such a young age affected her deeply. But she has never felt it inappropriate or idiotic for others to wish her Happy {fill-in-the-parent} Day.




UGetPaid, I’m so very sorry about your dad’s passing.  My mother also died from Alzheimer’s and it is a very hard disease to watch.  My heart breaks for you and especially for your wife losing both parents at an early age.