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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JDxJgJRqPng
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Is this evidence of a conspiracy? With a reggae track on the hook? Interesting.
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THATS messed up, but TRUE!! My husband and I actually watched on the news last night people are really getting VERY sick and hospitalized from the H1N1 (swine flu) shot. On the news last night they were saying there are more cases of sickness from this shot than the actual swine flu itself!! Im glad I didn't get one, my husband nor my kids!!
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-.- Might I ask who this "Jane" is and why, if she's important, she can't even afford a real domain name?
THATS messed up, but TRUE!! My husband and I actually watched on the news last night people are really getting VERY sick and hospitalized from the H1N1 (swine flu) shot. On the news last night they were saying there are more cases of sickness from this shot than the actual swine flu itself!! Im glad I didn't get one, my husband nor my kids!!
It takes ten days to two weeks for the body to make antibodies to the vaccine. People could be incubating a flu or other respiratory illness when they get the shot, and it is this that makes them sick, not the shot. Also, please don't confuse a cold with the flu.
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I know tons of people who got the vaccine & are just fine, & a couple who felt a little sick & sore afterward. People's bodies react differently to certain kinds of drugs. Nothing is a garauntee. Just like people think some kids can develop autism by getting certain vaccinations.
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-.- Might I ask who this "Jane" is and why, if she's important, she can't even afford a real domain name?
THATS messed up, but TRUE!! My husband and I actually watched on the news last night people are really getting VERY sick and hospitalized from the H1N1 (swine flu) shot. On the news last night they were saying there are more cases of sickness from this shot than the actual swine flu itself!! Im glad I didn't get one, my husband nor my kids!!
It takes ten days to two weeks for the body to make antibodies to the vaccine. People could be incubating a flu or other respiratory illness when they get the shot, and it is this that makes them sick, not the shot. Also, please don't confuse a cold with the flu.
All vaccines are dangerous whether they are H1N1 shot or the regular flu shot. They are also completely unneccessary. These shots contain thimerosal (mercury), formaldehyde, and aluminum. DONT GET VACCINES UNLESS THEY ARE HOMEOPATHIC!!
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you're going to die of something - most prefer not today - the hong kong flu almost got me in 1968 - but i'm still here or is this just a ghost writting - Health, Happiness, Peace, and Positive Perspective - IMHO >> In My Humble Opinion - The MUSEUM, Zazzle, deviantART, ArtFire
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I know tons of people who got the vaccine & are just fine, & a couple who felt a little sick & sore afterward. People's bodies react differently to certain kinds of drugs. Nothing is a garauntee. Just like people think some kids can develop autism by getting certain vaccinations.
Exactly! So the only question is... is the risk worth the benefit? Is the risk of being damaged forever, worth avoiding a flu? Is the risk of getting polio for example worse than autism? most would say yes.. they would prefer the illness which may never even occur, than the damage caused by the vaccine. The bottom line is the vaccines damage the body, some bodies handle it better than others for sure... but most of the damage is permanent, neurological or damage to the organs (bad on the liver etc) just like steroids which hurt the liver..
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I know tons of people who got the vaccine & are just fine, & a couple who felt a little sick & sore afterward. People's bodies react differently to certain kinds of drugs. Nothing is a garauntee. Just like people think some kids can develop autism by getting certain vaccinations.
Exactly! So the only question is... is the risk worth the benefit? Is the risk of being damaged forever, worth avoiding a flu? Is the risk of getting polio for example worse than autism? most would say yes.. they would prefer the illness which may never even occur, than the damage caused by the vaccine. The bottom line is the vaccines damage the body, some bodies handle it better than others for sure... but most of the damage is permanent, neurological or damage to the organs (bad on the liver etc) just like steroids which hurt the liver..
To some people, the risk is worth the benefit. That's why no one is forced to get the vaccine, it's their own choice if they want to take the risk.
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I know tons of people who got the vaccine & are just fine, & a couple who felt a little sick & sore afterward. People's bodies react differently to certain kinds of drugs. Nothing is a garauntee. Just like people think some kids can develop autism by getting certain vaccinations.
Exactly! So the only question is... is the risk worth the benefit? Is the risk of being damaged forever, worth avoiding a flu? Is the risk of getting polio for example worse than autism? most would say yes.. they would prefer the illness which may never even occur, than the damage caused by the vaccine. The bottom line is the vaccines damage the body, some bodies handle it better than others for sure... but most of the damage is permanent, neurological or damage to the organs (bad on the liver etc) just like steroids which hurt the liver..
To some people, the risk is worth the benefit. That's why no one is forced to get the vaccine, it's their own choice if they want to take the risk.
Actually if you work in some facilities its been forced. Schools force your kids to be vaccinated often. There are many ways that vaccines are FORCED (including military who get AMAZING amounts of them and they contributed to 'gulf war syndrome'). I agree if you want to poison yourself your fine to do so. The problem is the education about the dangers is suppressed, and then the benefits are greatly exaggerated. Often you find some vaccines have been given to people who later developed the very problem it should have solved! The number of autism cases is amazing! (and life ruining for the entire family). If people were not 'scared' into taking it and 'fooled' into believing its perfectly safe, there would be less outrage I would suspect. However look at those pushing it, those fear mongering, they all have ties to the very same people with patents on the vaccine... That stuff is flying off the shelves, they are making a killing! all because of clever marketing.. through fear.
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No idea why it quote my text
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There's always a chance you will get the sickness you are being vaccinated for. All it is, is a dead version of the illness. So if it is such a dangerous illness then why give people vaccines when you could catch it from the vaccine?
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:) Yes!...the answer is say 'no to the flu vaccine'. I do not want to be an experimental guinea pig!
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woooaaahahhhhh lucky i just red this right now
because i was gonna go get a shot tommarow
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-.- Might I ask who this "Jane" is and why, if she's important, she can't even afford a real domain name?
THATS messed up, but TRUE!! My husband and I actually watched on the news last night people are really getting VERY sick and hospitalized from the H1N1 (swine flu) shot. On the news last night they were saying there are more cases of sickness from this shot than the actual swine flu itself!! Im glad I didn't get one, my husband nor my kids!!
It takes ten days to two weeks for the body to make antibodies to the vaccine. People could be incubating a flu or other respiratory illness when they get the shot, and it is this that makes them sick, not the shot. Also, please don't confuse a cold with the flu.
All vaccines are dangerous whether they are H1N1 shot or the regular flu shot. They are also completely unneccessary. These shots contain thimerosal (mercury), formaldehyde, and aluminum. DONT GET VACCINES UNLESS THEY ARE HOMEOPATHIC!!
-.- Are people still seriously on about thimerosal? lol people never give up on this *bleep*. They're unnecessary? They've basically eradicated smallpox, polio, and multiple other illnesses across the globe.
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woooaaahahhhhh lucky i just red this right now
because i was gonna go get a shot tommarow
Do your own research please, for the sake of our own health. You're seriously going to let a random (nonsensical) Youtube video determine a choice like this without doing any research yourself? If you do your own research and find that you're uncomfortable taking the vaccine, fine, but it's plain dumb to base your decision on hysteria Youtube videos.
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woooaaahahhhhh lucky i just red this right now
because i was gonna go get a shot tommarow
Do your own research please, for the sake of our own health. You're seriously going to let a random (nonsensical) Youtube video determine a choice like this without doing any research yourself? If you do your own research and find that you're uncomfortable taking the vaccine, fine, but it's plain dumb to base your decision on hysteria Youtube videos.
Yes, please don't base your decision simply on a youtube video.
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I just got my swine shot last thursday and I am doing just fine. Besides that I get a flu shot every year since I have asthma and every year I am just fine.
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Oh, well those rich people probably stand a better chance to pay for it, or" qualify" so maybe it is a good thing for us to not have it, if it causes problems.
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well i know that ppl are sick cuz
well its like getting the flu shot
u get the symptoms of the shot
whenever i get the flu shot i get a cold for a week
its always the symptoms then after ur good
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOag4rkwQ6k&feature=player_embedded
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIkBAW-4GUs&feature=player_embedded
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I took my kids last tuesday to get there swine flu shots and they are fine.
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I'm not taking the any innoculations.
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No Swine Flue shot for me :binkybaby: :crybaby2: :dontknow:
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I don't ever get a flu shot. I certainly won't be getting one for H1N1.
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All my kids have asthma, and every year they get the flu shot. this year they will all get both of the flu shots. It usually keeps their asthma from acting up. Cause if they get sick, they have an asthma attack on top of whatever else they have, so I choose to get them the flu shots. :wave:
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOag4rkwQ6k&feature=player_embedded
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIkBAW-4GUs&feature=player_embedded
And the billions of other people who get vaccines and have no complications what so ever (if we assume this was completely caused by the vaccine in the first place)?
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My daughter had her first dose of the nasal spray and she hasnt had a problem and its been 3 weeks
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOag4rkwQ6k&feature=player_embedded
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIkBAW-4GUs&feature=player_embedded
And the billions of other people who get vaccines and have no complications what so ever (if we assume this was completely caused by the vaccine in the first place)?
first of all billions of people have NOT got the vaccine, its actually fairly new...
Some people believe that when they shoot someone in the head, its only coincidence that they die... for others have been shot in the head and survived, so that cant possible be the cause of death. The same goes with the vaccine, some people will see the poison and how it effected the body creating an adverse reaction.. others will think the adverse neurological damage just coincidentally happened on its own....
..BTW using that logic... How do we know the Swine flu is cause of any of the so-called Swine Flu Deaths?
Its the same medical establishment you must trust that tells you it was vaccine related or swine flu related.
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I already have. My family and I already don't get any vaccines because of what they put in them. We have leal forms for vaccine exemptions for our children to take to school. :thumbsup:
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I already have. My family and I already don't get any vaccines because of what they put in them. We have leal forms for vaccine exemptions for our children to take to school. :thumbsup:
What do they put in them that has been clinically proven to have significant side effects?
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOag4rkwQ6k&feature=player_embedded
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIkBAW-4GUs&feature=player_embedded
And the billions of other people who get vaccines and have no complications what so ever (if we assume this was completely caused by the vaccine in the first place)?
first of all billions of people have NOT got the vaccine, its actually fairly new...
Some people believe that when they shoot someone in the head, its only coincidence that they die... for others have been shot in the head and survived, so that cant possible be the cause of death. The same goes with the vaccine, some people will see the poison and how it effected the body creating an adverse reaction.. others will think the adverse neurological damage just coincidentally happened on its own....
..BTW using that logic... How do we know the Swine flu is cause of any of the so-called Swine Flu Deaths?
Its the same medical establishment you must trust that tells you it was vaccine related or swine flu related.
It was a reference the vaccines in general. They all have the same general components, with specific components for whatever the specific vaccine is for.
It's not the same medical establishment. It's people on the fringe with fairly limited support (relatively speaking) and very little to no credible evidence backing them up. The people who scream about thimerosal have nothing to back up their screaming, for example. Not a single credible study has been done that yields positive evidence of thimerosal being a cause of anything except redness/soreness at the injection site.
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Yet the companies removed Thimerisol, and advertise the fact that new improved vaccines no longer cause autism... Why would they do this, if it was not found to be harmful? Its not very uncommon for a drug company to cover up side effects. This is the way they work... want an example? Research any drug ever taken off the market... look how many people had to die, how many lawsuits etc. before they admit to it being at fault? How long did it take them to finally admit SSRI's had the side effect of suicide.. how many people died before they put it on the warning label? Decades passed and suicides kept occurring.. but not so much as a LABEL or warning! Now its on every SSRI pretty much... Then look at all the vaccines they changed because of safety issues. Look at the outbreak of GBS in vaccine recipients in the 70's over that swine flu. The fact is, statistically speaking, this Swine Flu is less likely to kill you than the regular seasonal Flu.
A warning that the new swine flu jab is linked to a deadly nerve disease has been sent by the Government to senior neurologists in a confidential letter.The letter from the Health Protection Agency, the official body that oversees public health, has been leaked to The Mail on Sunday, leading to demands to know why the information has not been given to the public before the vaccination of millions of people, including children, begins.
It tells the neurologists that they must be alert for an increase in a brain disorder called Guillain-Barre Syndrome (GBS), which could be triggered by the vaccine.GBS attacks the lining of the nerves, causing paralysis and inability to breathe, and can be fatal.
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1206807/Swine-flu-jab-link-killer-nerve-disease-Leaked-letter-reveals-concern-neurologists-25-deaths-America.html#ixzz0X6ZO4MPO
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1206807/Swine-flu-jab-link-killer-nerve-disease-Leaked-letter-reveals-concern-neurologists-25-deaths-America.html
A 14-year-old Virginia boy is weak and struggling to walk after coming down with a reported case of Guillain-Barre syndrome <http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33845867/ns/health-cold_and_flu/#> within hours after receiving the H1N1 vaccine for swine flu.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33845867/ns/health-cold_and_flu/
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I don't know if it is making people sick or not, I think I will stay without it.
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Many substances will not pass from your body and slowly build up over the course of years, finally reaching a dosage amount that causes one to finally feel some symptoms.
Many say they get various vaccines and feel fine, but, that doesn't necessarily mean they weren't exposed to harmful ingredients in the shot.
Just as in the sudden increase in illnesses like autism, there are more and more cases of asthma, diabetes cancers etc.....these may or may not be due to increased usage of some drugs.
It is known that the tendency of medical professionals to over-prescribe anti-biotics has resulted in many resistant strains of viruses.
Personally I have very little faith in the health system, as I feel it is basically just like any other business where the main focus is on profit margins.
I believe healing went out with small pox and polio and the drug companies realized that there were much greater profits in sales of treatment for symptoms rather than for cures for the illness its self.
The doctor benefits by multiple return office visits and the drug companies benefit by the sale of treatments and in return give the doctors more incentives to push their drugs, regardless of whether it is the best medication in a given case or not.
The patient is the only loser in the situation, and gets to pay for the chance to feel just enough better to think they are getting the best care possible.
A doctor who cures every patient would very quickly be out of business.
I am not much of a conspiracy theorist but with every thing else I have seen in this world it would not surprise me in the least if the drug manufacturers were intentionally adding ingredients to cause certain symptoms just so that they can in turn sale more drugs to treat that.
I would much rather use a more natural approach to the maintenance of my health.
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Well.I was diagnosed with breast cancer last year and I've survived but still taking treatments. My doctor hasn't suggested taking one and I don't want one. My immune system is already compromised and I don't want a vaccine compromising it any further I've never had the flu vaccination before and I've only had the flu once in my life. And I survived. Why take something that at worst gives you something you are trying to avoid in the first place?
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I will pass on the innoculations too.
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:sad1: there is no way i'm going to take that shot. i took the regular flu shot a few years back and got sick as could be and i'm definitly not taking some thing that they just developed and it hasn't had any time to see what the after affects are. most new drugs are tested for several years before they are put on the market, right????
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i agree! no kid got vaccinated w/o my permission. i was so pissed at the school. ugh.
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We finally got the shots here for kids. I'm taking my son tomorrow and it will be a load off my mind. It's spreading through the kids here very quickly.
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This is just like people who complain that they get sick after a flu shot or something. People's bodies react different. I have never had the flu and I am a pharmacy tech, that means I am around sick people a lot, especially during winter. There are precautions. We clean the counters and things that are used and touched daily, we wash our hands, and if really sick people come by we use antibacterial stuff (I know that over use can sometimes help spur the creation of super bugs or whatever). But anyway, I feel no need to get the shot. I have been sick before and got over them just fine. It is a slim chance that you might die from it. And as for kids, parents pump them full of medicine for every sniffle and cough. Kids are supposed to get colds and get over them, if you pump them full of stuff like ammoxicillin every single time they are sick, their body cannot learn to fight that sickness and it is actually worse for them. This doesn't mean they never need medicine, but if they are sniffling or coughing a bit, give them some oranges, kids vitamins, or orange juice, wrap them up in sweaters and blankets. Make sure they know that they need to wash their hands before eating and not to put their hands in their mouth all the time. Just general education of your kids can help them not get sick. Some people get sick every year. I get sick about every other year now as an adult. If people in my house are sick I start taking vitamin C and wiping stuff down. Also, don't lock yourself indoors with no light and the heater on, you're only creating a wonderful place for more bacteria to spawn and keep growing. We still leave the windows open a bit for fresh air and sunshine and wrap up in our pajamas and blankets.
So no, I wouldn't get the shot, and neither would anyone in my family. There's no need, I doubt I will die from it, I have never had the regular flu so I don't see myself getting a pig flu. People who are getting so ill from it could have already been sick and not known it yet, have weaker immune systems, body might not fight sickness so well because they take medicine for a lot of things, other medications or something they took before. You really just don't know, so it is personally up to you to asses the risk.
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Im not getting that crap shot in me or my kids
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not gettin it
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To some people, the risk is worth the benefit. That's why no one is forced to get the vaccine, it's their own choice if they want to take the risk.
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i HAVE HEARD THAT SOME HEALTH CARE WORKERS ARE REQUIRED TO TAKE THE VACCINE...OOps, I wasn't meaning to shout...typing without looking at the screen.
Dave D
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I had a brother that died from getting his childhood immunizations. The risk is there. Back then they didn't warn anyone. It was hard on my family dealing with a death of a child due to a shot. I can understand getting vaccinated for diseases that pose a huge risk. But now days they are coming out with too many vaccinations. Over vaccinated, and over medicated.
Who diagnosed the death and which immunization was the cause of death?
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The fact is, statistically speaking, this Swine Flu is less likely to kill you than the regular seasonal Flu.
That is, at this moment, factually incorrect.
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My son got his shot yesterday and he's fine. It's a load off of my mind that he isn't likely to catch it now.
I made the choice because the CDC , WHO, and every doctor I've spoken to tells me it's safe and necessary. I can't imagine taking the word of random people on the internet, youtube videos, and conspiracy theorists over the medical community that knows what they are talking about. I feel I would be a very irresponsible parent to do that.
I haven't received it myself since I want to be sure the kids and the ones most at risk get it first. When it's my turn I'll gladly roll up my sleeve. :)
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I'm so sick of hearing about this. Anybody that gets this vaccine is stupid IMO. Sorry, I'm not gonna let some random person at a school gym stick me with this concoction scientists created in only a few months. Very little studies and h1n1 is so overrated, it's just the fricken flu! it's not a deadly virus... enless you already sick or have weakened immune system.
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I'm so sick of hearing about this. Anybody that gets this vaccine is stupid IMO. Sorry, I'm not gonna let some random person at a school gym stick me with this concoction scientists created in only a few months. Very little studies and h1n1 is so overrated, it's just the fricken flu! it's not a deadly virus... enless you already sick or have weakened immune system.
You are certainly entitled to your opinion. I don't think the parents of the kids already dead in our small town of 6500 would agree. Especially since we haven't had a child die of the typical flu for years. I feel sorry for the kids who will pay the price because of ignorant paranoid parents. By the way, the flu mutates every year therefore new vaccines for the next year are always produced quickly. ::)