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Off-Topic / Re: I Thought My Husband Was A Born Again Believer But

« on: October 15, 2014, 11:24:29 am »Message ID: 926934

Oh, wow, well my husband says I always take things to the extreme - I agree with him and I am a work in progress!

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Off-Topic / Re: future of movies

« on: October 07, 2014, 11:16:53 am »Message ID: 924775

They SHOULD go in this direction:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U0u3-2CGOMQ

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Off-Topic / Re: I Thought My Husband Was A Born Again Believer But

« on: October 06, 2014, 09:54:33 am »Message ID: 924483

Oh, okay - when you put it that way, yes.  Sorry, I didn't mean to gloss over it I just didn't understand it the way you all were saying it.

So basically what you're saying is even if people give the right answers, they still might not be saved - which I agree with, but still, the people claiming to be born again believers who give the right answers is such a small percentage.  And when you put it the way you did, it's even scarier knowing that even some of those people who gave the right answers might not even be truly born again, meaning an even smaller percentage.

Anyway, sorry you girls/guys.  Sometimes when I get on here I'm in such a hurry that I apparently don't give things time to process before I answer.

BUT I do want to see where you are coming from in regards to the comment, 'confusion on the role of good works play in salvation.'  What do you mean, exactly?

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Off-Topic / Re: I Thought My Husband Was A Born Again Believer But

« on: October 06, 2014, 09:26:31 am »Message ID: 924471

you don't marry someone then expect them to change to suit your liking. you knew he wasnt religious when you married him.  you should have picked a devout follower, then you wouldn't have to expect him to change.  God loves us all, even non-believers and sinners

I didn't marry him expecting him to change.  Also, when we got married he told me he was a believer and acted like one, too.  I'm not expecting him to change, I'm just saying that I thought he was a believer.

Which, for an update, him and I talked the other day and I think the honest problem was he hadn't read his Bible in over a month.  Not reading your Bible is something that can truly affect your walk with Christ.  I asked him if he could AT LEAST read his Bible for 15 minutes a day - that's not asking much.  He said yes.  I feel like it's not fair to God, to me, to my kids, or to my husband himself for him not to read his Bible because like I said, it affects your walk with Christ.

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Off-Topic / Re: I Thought My Husband Was A Born Again Believer But

« on: October 06, 2014, 07:42:39 am »Message ID: 924445

It shows, hey, I see you're sinning against the Lord (which isn't profitable for ANYONE) - that should concern any Christian and cause any Christian to want to help their fellow brother or sister in Christ.

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Off-Topic / Re: I Thought My Husband Was A Born Again Believer But

« on: October 06, 2014, 07:40:59 am »Message ID: 924443

I don't go up to a fellow believer and say, "I know you've been lying to the whole congregation you stupid, no good jerk."

I would say, "Hey, I know you said you missed Church last Sunday to go to the hospital but so and so said you were at their house watching the Lions play football.  You know, the Bible says..."

That's a silly example but it's just an example.  We should come along side one another and help one another, we need to grow in knowledge and wisdom so we are better able to honor the Lord as a living sacrifice.  How are we doing each other a favor if we see one another sinning and remain silent?  I think judging (in love) is an act of love for each other's spiritual life and growth.

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Off-Topic / Re: Does Anyone Remember The Holocaust?

« on: October 06, 2014, 06:52:24 am »Message ID: 924439

Well it was supposed to go from the Holocaust to abortion to something else - I guess it wasn't a great surprise?  I just assumed no one saw that coming.

ANYWAY

Unborn babies killed in the American Holocaust in the first 37 years after Roe v Wade:  53,310,843

Adolf Hitler hated the 10 commandments and wanted to free people from them.  He called the commandments the curse of Mount Sinai and said that the God of the Bible is a tyrant who tells us to do the things we don’t want to do.  Clearly Hitler didn’t like the idea of ‘you shall not kill’ because it didn’t fit into his hate filled world view.
Although he is an extreme example, it’s common practice to have a low moral standard when we free ourselves from the 10 commandments or when we are unaware of their true meaning.

Question #11:  What happens after someone dies, do you think there’s a heaven?

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Off-Topic / Re: I Thought My Husband Was A Born Again Believer But

« on: October 06, 2014, 06:47:59 am »Message ID: 924438

But 9 out of 10 people who claim to be Christians aren't even saved

And you know this how?

They've actually done a country wide study and 89% of Americans called themselves Christians but when answering questions to determine if they were born again vs. attached the name Christian to themselves, I think it was 10% or less who passed the test.  I don't have time to look it up, I'll see if I can find the exact numbers and post them on here.

In other words, someone wrote questions so that they can “judge” who has been “saved” or not. I don’t believe that man has the ability to do that.

James 4:12 There is only one Lawgiver and Judge, the One who is able to save and to destroy; but who are you who judge your neighbor?

if you think you need faith + good works to get to heaven, for example, that's not putting your faith and trust in Christ alone and therefore you are NOT going to heaven.

There are a lot of things that you don't have to get right to get to heaven, but there are some things that if you miss - forget it, it's done, you're not going to heaven.  The Catholics believe in faith + good works.  What about when Jesus said on the cross, "It is finished"?  I could go on all day about this.

This sounds more like a grudge against the Catholic faith than anything, which likely stems from confusion on the role of good works play in salvation. I’m not Catholic, so no need for a good works debate, but Jesus does bring them up in the book of Matthew.

Matthew 7:21-23 “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. On that day many will say to me, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and cast out demons in your name, and do many mighty works in your name?’ And then will I declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from me, you workers of lawlessness.’

Once again, read 1 Corinthians 5:9-13 in regards to judging fellow believers:

9 I wrote you in my letter not to associate with immoral people; 10 I did not at all mean with the immoral people of this world, or with the covetous and swindlers, or with idolaters, for then you would have to go out of the world. 11 But actually, I wrote to you not to associate with any so-called brother if he is an immoral person, or covetous, or an idolater, or a reviler, or a drunkard, or a swindler-- not even to eat with such a one. 12 For what have I to do with judging outsiders? Do you not judge those who are within the church? 13 But those who are outside, God judges. Remove the wicked man from among yourselves.

I believe there are certainly questions you can ask to determine if someone is saved.

If you are a professing believer who says good works get you into heaven or denies the deity of Christ or denies the Trinity or doesn't believe Christ rose from the dead, you're going to Hell.  Those are orthodox beliefs.

I believe good works do not have any play in salvation, I believe they are a result of salvation.

In reference to James 4:12, 4:11 right before that refers to slander.  This isn't forbidding confronting fellow believers who sin, which is commanded all throughout scripture (Mt 18:15-17; Ac 20:31; 1Co 4:14; Col 1:28; Ti 1:13; 2:15; 3:10).  Here it is referring to believers throwing careless, derogatory, critical, slanderous accusations at one another. (ref. Dr. John MacArthur)

When you judge, as with all things, you judge with love.

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Off-Topic / Re: Does Anyone Remember The Holocaust?

« on: October 05, 2014, 05:16:10 pm »Message ID: 924344

All good replies!

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Off-Topic / Re: I Thought My Husband Was A Born Again Believer But

« on: October 03, 2014, 01:52:03 pm »Message ID: 923695

lol.  Yeah, I heard that little speech.  She is an idiot.

Actually, we are not suppose to judge anyone. 

Matthew 7:1 says "Judge not, lest ye be judged"     and

Matthew 7:5 says "get the beam out of your own eye before you worry about the spec in your brothers"    and

Luke 6:42 and Luke 7:3 also talks about worrying about yourself and not someone else.

So,you don't believe we're allowed to judge one another,yet you've Judged her to be an idiot.Anyone else see the irony?

THANK YOU, my pastor literally said that same exact thing last night.

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Off-Topic / Re: I Thought My Husband Was A Born Again Believer But

« on: October 03, 2014, 01:51:27 pm »Message ID: 923694

But 9 out of 10 people who claim to be Christians aren't even saved

And you know this how?

They've actually done a country wide study and 89% of Americans called themselves Christians but when answering questions to determine if they were born again vs. attached the name Christian to themselves, I think it was 10% or less who passed the test.  I don't have time to look it up, I'll see if I can find the exact numbers and post them on here.

Questions that determine if you are born again? lol.  The only thing that determines that is if you have asked Christ into your heart.  No survey can determine a person's heart.

The Bible says again and again we are dead in our trespasses:

Ephesians 2:1 And you were dead in your trespasses and sins..

Ephesians 2:5 even when we were dead in our transgressions, made us alive together with Christ (by grace you have been saved)..

Colossians 2:13 When you were dead in your transgressions and the uncircumcision of your flesh, He made you alive together with Him, having forgiven us all our transgressions..

How can we accept something when we are dead?  We can't, we need a revival.  Yes, there are questions to determine if you're born again - if you think you need faith + good works to get to heaven, for example, that's not putting your faith and trust in Christ alone and therefore you are NOT going to heaven.

There are a lot of things that you don't have to get right to get to heaven, but there are some things that if you miss - forget it, it's done, you're not going to heaven.  The Catholics believe in faith + good works.  What about when Jesus said on the cross, "It is finished"?  I could go on all day about this.




And I want you to read 1 Corinthians 5:9-13 in regards to judging fellow believers:

9 I wrote you in my letter not to associate with immoral people; 10 I did not at all mean with the immoral people of this world, or with the covetous and swindlers, or with idolaters, for then you would have to go out of the world. 11 But actually, I wrote to you not to associate with any so-called brother if he is an immoral person, or covetous, or an idolater, or a reviler, or a drunkard, or a swindler-- not even to eat with such a one. 12 For what have I to do with judging outsiders? Do you not judge those who are within the church? 13 But those who are outside, God judges. Remove the wicked man from among yourselves.

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Off-Topic / Re: I Thought My Husband Was A Born Again Believer But

« on: October 03, 2014, 12:11:08 pm »Message ID: 923668

I also agree with some of the other responses here that religion is a private thing, and it doesn't necessarily have to be shared in a couple. What's of more concern is that it seems to be causing friction. My advice would be to talk to him openly about what he thinks, expressing your support of him. Listen to what he has to say. It may really help in this situation.

Religion should be shared in a marriage:  2 Corinthians 6:14 Do not be bound together with unbelievers; for what partnership have righteousness and lawlessness, or what fellowship has light with darkness?

That's just one verse I thought I'd post quickly!

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Off-Topic / Re: Does Anyone Remember The Holocaust?

« on: October 03, 2014, 12:06:47 pm »Message ID: 923665

For those of you who think, well, it’s not something someone should just do – they should really think about it before proceeding.  That’s like, going back to the Jews, saying well I need to think about what I’m doing before proceeding to bury these Jews – after I think about it long enough, then I can bury them.

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Off-Topic / Re: I Thought My Husband Was A Born Again Believer But

« on: October 03, 2014, 08:51:14 am »Message ID: 923618

Christians all have different paths to take and you cannot assume your hubby's path is your path... be happy that he loves the Lord...

That's the thing though, I don't know if he does love the Lord.  Only time will tell..

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Off-Topic / Re: I Thought My Husband Was A Born Again Believer But

« on: October 03, 2014, 08:50:16 am »Message ID: 923617

But 9 out of 10 people who claim to be Christians aren't even saved

And you know this how?

They've actually done a country wide study and 89% of Americans called themselves Christians but when answering questions to determine if they were born again vs. attached the name Christian to themselves, I think it was 10% or less who passed the test.  I don't have time to look it up, I'll see if I can find the exact numbers and post them on here.