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Suggestions / Re: Whats with the surveys?
« on: August 16, 2012, 08:34:18 pm »Message ID: 589075
99% of the time i start doing a survey, it ends and says i didn't meet their requirements?
They have my profile....then why  not send me surveys that meet my profile so i do qualify?
Yeah it almost fed me up with fusion cash to the point I almost quit before a cash out. You can make very little money with this site for the amount of time it takes to make it. For the time I have spent filling stuff out I think it boils down to less than 5 cents an hour and most likely less!
it's all relative. if you make $10 in 15 minutes for instance it can boil down to something different.

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Suggestions / Re: (CPC) Cheapflights daily click offer
« on: August 16, 2012, 08:32:49 pm »Message ID: 589073
I dont hink the offer is gone. it's alive for a very short time after midnight.

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Payments / Re: CASHOUTS
« on: August 15, 2012, 10:30:49 pm »Message ID: 588433
It seems like every month someone-else creates this same post lol  ;D.
But yeah the sometimes you may get it a little earlier maybe a day or tow but the scheduled time is the 20th.
i wonder how big is fc's database to contain all the redundant threds.

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Payments / Re: On A roll today
« on: August 15, 2012, 10:30:07 pm »Message ID: 588432
Fc is on a roll today, I finally qualified for a survey today...It has been so long since that happens I forget wat it felt like to make something over $2, but I am not complaining. In my situation every like penny counts.
FC Survey DQ Bonus: Movie & TV Panel    2012-08-14   $0.01   Approved
Survey for Women #5   2012-08-14   $2.00   Approved
Paid To Click - 08/14/2012   2012-08-14   $0.15   Approved
Daily Cash Email - 08/14/2012   2012-08-14   $0.02   Approved
Search Reward - 428f38ae   2012-08-14   $0.01   Approved
Search Reward - 40fc69da   2012-08-14   $0.01   Approved
Search Reward - 19a8db25   2012-08-14   $0.01   Approved

recently the vidoes are on a dialy roll!

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Payments / Re: I'm only less than $8 away from my big check from FusionCash!
« on: August 15, 2012, 10:28:52 pm »Message ID: 588431
I'm ready to get some more money on here so that I can get $25 from FusionCash. The last time that I've cashed out was a while ago, but it wasn't enough to pay for everything that I must pay for in the future. This will make the world really happy!
The world is a refelction of your thoughts and actions.

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Payments / Re: Paypal has a new process for Identification
« on: August 07, 2012, 11:41:29 pm »Message ID: 584145
This process is rolling out among all Paypal account holders. When I first found out I  :BangHead: anyway they told me that I woould need a picture ID Proof of Address and my SSN card. I faxed the picture ID (License), but I was not comfortable sending my SSN card. I called customer support the first time and explined that I was not comfortable with this, and they told me I had to do it. Needless to say I called back the next day and got a new representative who told me that I had made a good faith effort to identify myself, and the limitation on my account was removed. You are now forwarned that this might interfere with some cashouts.
AFAIK, this has always been Paypal's policy. They do this if either your account is showing suspicous activity or you have a Business/Premiere account where you're requesting a Paypal Debit Mastercard for the first time to be delievered to your address or something else.

One time this happened to me before...I just called and they immediately lifted the limitation as soon as they knew I was the owner without having to submit any of those documents.

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Payments / Re: Out of the box ideas for getting referrals !!
« on: August 07, 2012, 11:34:25 pm »Message ID: 584143
I use to do that. Wasn't really effective as one would think.

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Payments / Re: Talk about fustrating
« on: August 07, 2012, 10:07:18 pm »Message ID: 584114
I'm ending today with a account balance of $24.99!! I was looking foward to my 1st cash out :) I guess tomarrow
whether you cashout today or tomorrow you're gettingit the same day.

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Suggestions / Re: who really work from home?
« on: August 06, 2012, 11:20:34 pm »Message ID: 583572
I'm an indie contractor for GPT sites. :)

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Word Chains & Countdowns / Re: preseving dead animals
« on: August 06, 2012, 11:14:51 pm »Message ID: 583571
;D which animal would you like to see preserved and why. do you like taxidermy and all things odd well im the one to talk about it with :D

This topic has nothing to do with the forum board it's posted in, "Word Chains & Countdowns". This should be/should have been posted in the "Off-Topic" board.
i didn't know there was a "Word Chains & Countdowns" thread!

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Suggestions / Re: Pleease fix the surveys
« on: August 03, 2012, 04:01:59 pm »Message ID: 581800

(IMHO if a survey needs to take these kinds of 'preventative' measure to ensure the quality fo the survey then i wouldn't consider them to be quality surveys in the first place, in fact, i think a real qualiy survey is one where it's so good that quality and integrity isn't even an issue to begin with and therefore such methods would be unnecessary but maybe my standards are too high)
I don't really follow your logic here.  If a survey company took no preventative measures against fraud, it would be inundated with false responses and panelists in a matter of weeks, if not days.  What makes a survey "good" for you (e.g. no chance of DQ) would make it terrible for the survey provider.  And again, they write the checks.  When you go to a restaurant you do not expect to be told how your steak should be cooked.  You are paying for it and you get to choose.  It's the same for surveys.  They are ordering, and paying for, particular responses from particular demographics, and they don't want to pay for fraudulent responses.  

i dont' disagree that DQs occur for those reasons, which is prefectly unsrestandble, it's however also possible, and more likely than one would conjecture, that there are actually surveys, like offers, that similarily 'credit' improperly or are expired but in a quite subtle method. this is hwere the "apaprent DQs" are rooted from.

basically, different ways of producing thes ame results.
It's possible that they are silently DQing without proper cause.  But for most surveys, they have a large multinational firm behind them.  Engaging in some kind of deceptive "occasionally don't credit some people" practices would open them up to huge liability (there are contracts in place, after all).  I am more willing to admit that some traditional advertisers (not surveys) have engaged in practices like that, but when we detect it, we cut all ties.

On a side note, and please don't take this personally -- are you drunk?  I've never seen you type like this before!  I don't mind, just curious :)
even tho i don't disagree, none of my posts are are referring to prevenatitiev measures, DQs, quality, integrtiy and good surveys that are based on particular responses from particular demographics; that's dandy and all because all surveys by nature must pre-screen/qualify. so the idea of a"good" survey of there being no chance to DQ, as well as the steak analogy, doesn't apply (or even exist) to what i'm particularly saying. what i'm tryint to say is if a survey neeeds to pull a 'trick' from their sleeve, (i.e. select thsi option for seucity purposes, to confirm your place in our survey, or even oen from a qualitric surveys where the very frist qustion was a physco-social test to see if i was paying attention) it may not be a good quality survey to begin with. many surveys are like these naturally. so i have no qualms with this 'prevenative' measure against fraud to ensure their survey answers are integral/good quality and by definition they should do it to protect themsevles.  it jsut means,l to me, if they're paying for this it doesn't mean their attempt to secure their survey is not a sound financial investment, it just means that they haven''t figured out a way yet how to create a good survey without having to pay extra security measures as part of their assurance plan. as for the last paragraph i'm glad FC 'purnes' out the 'bad' ones but what i'm actually referring to are "unintentional DQs" that has mroe to do with the (systematic network implementatoin of the) survey itself than about unethical survey practices.

I drink but I am not drunk! ;)

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Suggestions / Re: Pleease fix the surveys
« on: August 03, 2012, 05:14:31 am »Message ID: 581478
It's also not just a matter of quotas filling... you can be DQ'd at any time if the survey provider detects inconsistent answers, or if you are speeding (e.g. in the top 5% fastest completers).  Those are things that can take many questions to detect and be sure about.  Judging by the fact that some members are really consistently rewarded with survey credits, while others with similar demographics are not, I would guess that many members are inadvertently DQ'ing themselves through inconsistent answers.  Unfortunately, for security reasons, we are not told why a DQ happens, only that it did happen.  This is to prevent people who try to game the system (e.g. with automatic software) from knowing how they were caught and refining their methods.

We would love to have nothing but surveys who credit for every person that starts them.  But there is too much fraud among paid surveys for that to be possible.  Since the survey providers write the checks, they decide who qualifies.  They have to protect the integrity of their research in order to get future projects.  It's normal to have high expectations of the businesses that you interact with, but try to keep in mind that when taking surveys, you are getting paid.  It's a different dynamic than usual (where you are the one paying the company).

Thank you for clarifying the survey process as much as is practical to do.  I suppose it's somewhat easier for some people taking surveys to assume that a DQ means they're being 'taken' however, there's usually an underlying reason for it which they are nominally unaware of.
i dont' disagree that DQs occur for those reasons, which is prefectly unsrestandble, it's however also possible, and more likely than one would conjecture, that there are actually surveys, like offers, that similarily 'credit' improperly or are expired but in a quite subtle method. this is hwere the "apaprent DQs" are rooted from.

basically, different ways of producing thes ame results.

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Suggestions / Re: Pleease fix the surveys
« on: August 03, 2012, 05:07:44 am »Message ID: 581477
As fo the surveys, i odn't take issue with teh DQ itself, but rather the code/desing oft he survey, which affects the DQ process as a byproduct (which why it would appear to be DQ'd to survey takers), and introduces a whole set of diff issues, i.e., 'residual' surveys, 'zombified, 'stale', 'gliitchy' BJ easily comes to mind, altho they use to be reall good before but recently either their coding or the GPT or someone else's is buggy that they bring you to their own congrats page.

It been said before and it'll be said again, "glitch happens."
exactly; expired ones too more oftren than not

It's also not just a matter of quotas filling... you can be DQ'd at any time if the survey provider detects inconsistent answers, or if you are speeding (e.g. in the top 5% fastest completers).  Those are things that can take many questions to detect and be sure about.  Judging by the fact that some members are really consistently rewarded with survey credits, while others with similar demographics are not, I would guess that many members are inadvertently DQ'ing themselves through inconsistent answers.  Unfortunately, for security reasons, we are not told why a DQ happens, only that it did happen.  This is to prevent people who try to game the system (e.g. with automatic software) from knowing how they were caught and refining their methods.

We would love to have nothing but surveys who credit for every person that starts them.  But there is too much fraud among paid surveys for that to be possible.  Since the survey providers write the checks, they decide who qualifies.  They have to protect the integrity of their research in order to get future projects.  It's normal to have high expectations of the businesses that you interact with, but try to keep in mind that when taking surveys, you are getting paid.  It's a different dynamic than usual (where you are the one paying the company).
first paragraph: whiel there are many surveys like that which is a good thing in light of what you jsut said and very infomrative thanks (IMHO if a survey needs to take these kinds of 'preventative' measure to ensure the quality fo the survey then i wouldn't consider them to be quality surveys in the first place, in fact, i think a real qualiy survey is one where it's so good that quality and integrity isn't even an issue to begin with and therefore such methods would be unnecessary but maybe my standards are too high), there are also a lot of offers that don't 'credit' properly. if that's true then it might be the same for surveys if they use similar code/system/platform/company/design/affiliates/etc, etc..

second paragraph: i don't hink ppl aren't as livid having it more to do with nto merely getting paid for their efforst than investing excessive amount of their time on 'expired' surveys, taht is one particular survey. this is unforuntately part of the imperfect system trying 'perfect' it self from unwanted "by-products"

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Suggestions / Re: Pleease fix the surveys
« on: August 03, 2012, 04:03:02 am »Message ID: 581463
I did but what you mean by "survey providers are DQing xtians." if dont'see how that has anything to do with what i said, which would make your comment a bit confusing to say the least.

A sarcastic/dry sense of humor does not appeal to everyone.

... as to those PSB survey's, the end of the completing the survey, it shows a 'DQ' message. this means it has more to do with a poorly coded 'DQ' trigger than the implementation of the DQ itself. in this PSB case, it shows itself after a quota is meant rather than early in its phase launch of the survey. But even a 'buggy' survey can still 'error' early on.

Although I've seen that happen with other surveys, rarely does the survey taker get a DQ message explaining why.  Sometimes survey quotas fill right at the end of taking a survey, (especially when the demographic segment parameter questions are placed at the end of a survey, rather than in the beginning as pre-qualifiers).
I like that kind of humor, but not all types of that kind of humor is appealing to me. ;) it's weird and ends up trying too hard,...

As fo the surveys, i odn't take issue with teh DQ itself, but rather the code/desing oft he survey, which affects the DQ process as a byproduct (which why it would appear to be DQ'd to survey takers), and introduces a whole set of diff issues, i.e., 'residual' surveys, 'zombified, 'stale', 'gliitchy' BJ easily comes to mind, altho they use to be reall good before but recently either their coding or the GPT or someone else's is buggy that they bring you to their own congrats page.

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Suggestions / Re: Pleease fix the surveys
« on: August 03, 2012, 03:22:27 am »Message ID: 581449
I have spent so many hours filling out to take surveys to get thrown off the survey.  

That depends. Are you actually being disqualified or 'shafted?'

Any rumors to the effect that survey providers are DQing xtians instead of basing disqualifications upon demographics parameters or, those parameters filling while a survey is being taken are completely without merit.

I'm not sure what you mean by "survey providers are DQing xtians."

Read it again - any rumors to that effect are without merit.

Based on my daily experience, there is a diff between being disqualified and being 'taken for a ride.' Take PSB Surveys for instance.

Can you describe specifically what you are referring to with regard to those surveys?
I did but what you mean by "survey providers are DQing xtians." if dont'see how that has anything to do with what i said, which would make your comment a bit confusing to say the least.

as to those PSB survey's, the end of the completing the survey, it shows a 'DQ' message. this means it has more to do with a poorly coded 'DQ' trigger than the implementation of the DQ itself. in this PSB case, it shows itself after a quota is meant rather than early in its phase launch of the survey. But even a 'buggy' survey can still 'error' early on.

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