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Flackle

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Re: If People Did Not Have Jesus Christ In Their Lives
« Reply #45 on: October 26, 2011, 10:43:23 am »
I would have to agree with you. Religion is a way to give people hope that there is a reason to go on. If people did not have something or someone to believe in than what would be the purpose of being good and doing the right thing.

Perhaps instead of relying on some voodoo magic or superstition to give you a reason for doing the right thing, people would look pass their selfish indifferences and work towards helping each other for the greater good? It could happen. One day...

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Re: If People Did Not Have Jesus Christ In Their Lives
« Reply #46 on: October 26, 2011, 11:49:11 am »
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Oh,fer crying out loud!  Why is there always such hostility shown around here every time a statement of faith is made?Let people worship who or what they want.What is it to you?

Maybe you should read others posts and stop wanting to hear what only you want to hear? That may help in understanding. Then again I am directing this advice towards an ignorant overzealous creationist, so I doubt it will happen.

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.We get it.You think that you're intellectually superior for believing in Charlie Darwin and his racist, unsubstantiated theories.Let it go,and move on.

Not until proper information gets out there and misinformation is quelled. Considering these sentences quoted above, the skeptics have a lot of work to do! Seriously, put your Ray Comfort/Kirk Cameron baby books down and do some real research for once if you want to take a good shot at healthy skepticism.
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Re: If People Did Not Have Jesus Christ In Their Lives
« Reply #47 on: November 01, 2011, 11:26:55 am »
I totally adree because we would be lost without him.  I need him everyday of my life.

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Re: If People Did Not Have Jesus Christ In Their Lives
« Reply #48 on: November 01, 2011, 11:27:20 am »
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Re: If People Did Not Have Jesus Christ In Their Lives
« Reply #49 on: November 01, 2011, 07:46:19 pm »
How can anyone think jesus is a storybook character? All you have to do is look around you to tell he is real. Look at a flower, a rainbow, the sun, the moon, the ocean, or a newborn child. How do they think these things happen? Miracles!!! They happen everyday, somewhere. Caused by God and Jesus not  by "whatever" not by a genie in a bottle. They need to look at the world thru new eyes and then maybe they will finally "SEE". :angel11:

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Re: If People Did Not Have Jesus Christ In Their Lives
« Reply #50 on: November 01, 2011, 07:49:22 pm »
one lord one faith n one baptism. ppl need jesus in there lives[/b][/i] :angel12:[/]

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Re: If People Did Not Have Jesus Christ In Their Lives
« Reply #51 on: November 01, 2011, 09:44:03 pm »
How can anyone think jesus is a storybook character?



Basically, that would be due to the lack of evidence to support a claim that "jesus" isn't just a fictional character, (or, the even less substantiated claim that "jesus is god".



All you have to do is look around you to tell he is real. Look at a flower, a rainbow, the sun, the moon, the ocean, or a newborn child. How do they think these things happen? Miracles!!! They happen everyday, somewhere. Caused by God and Jesus not  by "whatever" not by a genie in a bottle. They need to look at the world thru new eyes and then maybe they will finally "SEE". :angel11:


These are false attributions, unsupported by evidence, (and resting ambiguously upon 'faith').  One could just as easily, (and falsely), attribute the environment to flying spaghetti gods, invisible pink unicorns or a theory of the properties of emergent fractal processes.
One can lead a horse to water however, if one holds the horse's head under, that horse will drown.

             

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Re: If People Did Not Have Jesus Christ In Their Lives
« Reply #52 on: November 02, 2011, 05:36:13 am »
Have you ever looked for a Bible in the library? It's on the same shelf as mythology. Christianity is simply another form of mythology.

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Re: If People Did Not Have Jesus Christ In Their Lives
« Reply #53 on: November 08, 2011, 05:54:46 am »
Have you ever looked for a Bible in the library? It's on the same shelf as mythology. Christianity is simply another form of mythology.


People who put the Bible in the same category as mythology do not understand that the Bible is the Word of God. They don't understand that reading what is in the Bible and putting it to practice will totally change the life. To be like Jesus is my goal and reading the Bible teaches me how to do it. You should try reading the Bible, especially the gospel of John. Don't read it to try to find something wrong with the Bible but read it with an open mind and you will be amazed at what you read. If you put to practice what you read in the Bible, you will be so much happier and actually have a real purpose for living.

(The "you" in my post is not only davidf938, it is to anybody who reads the post)

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Re: If People Did Not Have Jesus Christ In Their Lives
« Reply #54 on: November 08, 2011, 09:00:29 am »
Have you ever looked for a Bible in the library? It's on the same shelf as mythology. Christianity is simply another form of mythology.


People who put the Bible in the same category as mythology do not understand that the Bible is the Word of God. They don't understand that reading what is in the Bible and putting it to practice will totally change the life. To be like Jesus is my goal and reading the Bible teaches me how to do it. You should try reading the Bible, especially the gospel of John. Don't read it to try to find something wrong with the Bible but read it with an open mind and you will be amazed at what you read. If you put to practice what you read in the Bible, you will be so much happier and actually have a real purpose for living.

(The "you" in my post is not only davidf938, it is to anybody who reads the post)

The bible isn't the only "holy book."  You should try reading the Koran, The Vedas (Hinduism), The Torah, Tao te Ching (Taoism).  What if a Hindu told you if you didn't have Krishna in your life you'd be lost.  How would you feel about that?
 

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Re: If People Did Not Have Jesus Christ In Their Lives
« Reply #55 on: November 08, 2011, 10:45:41 am »
I completely disagree.  What about the many other societies that are not Christian?  What do they "hold on to."  Are you saying they can't cope?  Are their beliefs any less important?  Do they not have other coping mechanisms to get them through?  There's more than one way to skin a cat.  If your Jesus is something you need to get by great that's wonderful for you but don't speak for everybody.

I also disagree. I get through each day by knowing that I am a good person and I do the best I can with everything I do. I treat people the way I would want to be treated, accept others for who they are, and if by chance that doesn't fit with my beleifs I wish for themm all the good things I wish for myself and move on.

I find most religions to be far to limiting and intolerant. The "group think" can be dangerous and very intolerant of anything different from themselves. I don't like the "my way or the highway" mentality. IF there is a higher being, I'm sure that She would have made us all so different to make the world a more interesting place. I also believe that She would know that same "message" would not work for everyone because of the cultural/personal differences between people, and would have diseminated the message of goodness in many ways. The worlds religions have more in common than they do difference.

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Re: If People Did Not Have Jesus Christ In Their Lives
« Reply #56 on: November 08, 2011, 12:57:02 pm »
I am a Christian and glad for it. God has saved my life many times. Left up to me, I'd be gone. Not because of what I'm doing but because of what people did to me as a child.

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Re: If People Did Not Have Jesus Christ In Their Lives
« Reply #57 on: November 08, 2011, 02:03:09 pm »
People who put the Bible in the same category as mythology do not understand that the Bible is the Word of God.


People who make such a claim provide no evidence to support it and instead, rely wholly upon blind faith.
One can lead a horse to water however, if one holds the horse's head under, that horse will drown.

             

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Re: If People Did Not Have Jesus Christ In Their Lives
« Reply #58 on: November 15, 2011, 06:35:48 pm »
People who put the Bible in the same category as mythology do not understand that the Bible is the Word of God.


People who make such a claim provide no evidence to support it and instead, rely wholly upon blind faith.

Are you saying that it doesn't take faith to believe in what you believe? How do you know that your faith is not blind faith in that you can't see the "picture" from the angle I see it? It is not blind faith; rather it is experiential faith. If you would experience the changes of life that I and many others have experienced through reading the Bible, you also would understand that it is not blind faith.

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Re: If People Did Not Have Jesus Christ In Their Lives
« Reply #59 on: November 17, 2011, 10:02:36 am »
People who put the Bible in the same category as mythology do not understand that the Bible is the Word of God.


People who make such a claim provide no evidence to support it and instead, rely wholly upon blind faith.


Are you saying that it doesn't take faith to believe in what you believe?


No, I would not use such circularity, ("belief" & "faith" being interchangeable with a 'claim without evidence').


How do you know that your faith is not blind faith in that you can't see the "picture" from the angle I see it? It is not blind faith; rather it is experiential faith. If you would experience the changes of life that I and many others have experienced through reading the Bible, you also would understand that it is not blind faith.


Attributing effects to causes without substantiating evidence specifically linking those effects to a specific cause is speculative and thus, relies upon 'blind faith' and inconclusive attributions.  One could posit that a baseball player who wore white socks with red tops the last time he hit a grand slam attributed that to wearing those socks, (supersitition).  Happens all the time and the cause/effect connection is a false attribution.
One can lead a horse to water however, if one holds the horse's head under, that horse will drown.

             

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