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sigmapi1501

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Will God have a role in how you vote?
« on: January 16, 2012, 03:20:37 pm »
Right away I will say to be fair that I am a tree hugging liberal.  I plan to vote democratic.

If you plan to vote Republican because you are against government programs or spending... That's just an opinion that I'll never be able to convince you that you are wrong for having.

BUT, Are you going to vote Republican because you feel God wants you to?  Please explain.
« Last Edit: January 16, 2012, 03:44:40 pm by sigmapi1501 »

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Re: Will God have a role in how you vote?
« Reply #1 on: January 16, 2012, 03:27:06 pm »
BUT, Are you going to vote Republican because you feel God wants you to?  Please explain.





Alternatively, you might ask whether someone's vote is influenced by satan, cthulu, odin, anubis or invisible pink unicorns ... just to get a wider cross-section.
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Re: Will God have a role in how you vote?
« Reply #2 on: January 16, 2012, 03:44:51 pm »
Ok. Those too.

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Re: Will God have a role in how you vote?
« Reply #3 on: January 16, 2012, 03:48:48 pm »
One can lead a horse to water however, if one holds the horse's head under, that horse will drown.

             

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Re: Will God have a role in how you vote?
« Reply #4 on: January 16, 2012, 04:56:18 pm »
God does not have a role in any vote because god does not exist. Now the BELIEF or disbelief in a god or gods may have an impact on how somebody votes.

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Re: Will God have a role in how you vote?
« Reply #5 on: January 16, 2012, 05:16:45 pm »
God does not have a role in any vote because god does not exist. Now the BELIEF or disbelief in a god or gods may have an impact on how somebody votes.

Read the last sentence in the original post smart  :bootyshake:

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Re: Will God have a role in how you vote?
« Reply #6 on: January 16, 2012, 05:46:57 pm »
God doesn't belong to a political party, and no party can claim any special appreciation from Him.

I am guessing you are just being silly with your question and maybe trying to get some sort of argument going or someone to say something you can label as crazy.  You seriously cannot believe the suggestion you are making here can you?
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Re: Will God have a role in how you vote?
« Reply #7 on: January 16, 2012, 06:09:05 pm »
God doesn't belong to a political party, and no party can claim any special appreciation from Him.

I am guessing you are just being silly with your question and maybe trying to get some sort of argument going or someone to say something you can label as crazy.  You seriously cannot believe the suggestion you are making here can you?




However, "Flackle" is correct in that a belief or, disbelief in various deities may have an effect on voting decisions.  That's where fundamentalism looses the 'fun' part.
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Re: Will God have a role in how you vote?
« Reply #8 on: January 17, 2012, 02:45:57 am »
God doesn't belong to a political party, and no party can claim any special appreciation from Him.

I am guessing you are just being silly with your question and maybe trying to get some sort of argument going or someone to say something you can label as crazy.  You seriously cannot believe the suggestion you are making here can you?




However, "Flackle" is correct in that a belief or, disbelief in various deities may have an effect on voting decisions.  That's where fundamentalism looses the 'fun' part.

People will vote for qualities they agree with and this is not limited to a belief or disbelief in a deity.  To single out religion shows a prejudicial approach.  That is much like asking ones race or gender, or the home state or height or weight of the candidate will factor in.  It is virtually impossible to eliminate all such conditionals from a choice (even if one submitted only text of the candidates without their names or gender or physical appearances or speech inflections or other things).
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Re: Will God have a role in how you vote?
« Reply #9 on: January 17, 2012, 02:16:51 pm »
People will vote for qualities they agree with and this is not limited to a belief or disbelief in a deity.  To single out religion shows a prejudicial approach. 



No particular religion is being singled out here; in fact, the potential influence of not having any religious beliefs was mentioned.



That is much like asking ones race or gender, or the home state or height or weight of the candidate will factor in.  It is virtually impossible to eliminate all such conditionals from a choice (even if one submitted only text of the candidates without their names or gender or physical appearances or speech inflections or other things).


True, voters will consciously or, unconsciously bring their learned prejudices into their voting decisions nevertheless. Some will attempt to weigh candidate positions while others just vote along party lines.
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Re: Will God have a role in how you vote?
« Reply #10 on: January 17, 2012, 02:28:02 pm »
Basically, I am curious. I know there are gala polls out there but usually those are cherry picked to get the result they desired.

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Re: Will God have a role in how you vote?
« Reply #11 on: January 17, 2012, 02:47:45 pm »
I know there are gala polls out there...

??gala polls??
 ??? :dontknow:
                    
How come it won't play?

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Re: Will God have a role in how you vote?
« Reply #12 on: January 17, 2012, 02:48:23 pm »
People will vote for qualities they agree with and this is not limited to a belief or disbelief in a deity.  To single out religion shows a prejudicial approach. 



No particular religion is being singled out here; in fact, the potential influence of not having any religious beliefs was mentioned.

That is why I said 'religion' and not "a religion".  The non religious bit was added later and more as a contrast to the religious (and being such it is still fits the bill of singling out based on religion).  There is an obvious (and flawed) point of view of the OP being that religious will vote republican through some ability to divine the will of God.  There is so much wrong about a conclusion like that, that the only thing one can deem from it is prejudiced person.  Considering that he has repeatedly accused me of being a racist and a homophobic because I believe in God I cannot really conclude anything else except that it is purely prejudicial against religion.  
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Re: Will God have a role in how you vote?
« Reply #13 on: January 17, 2012, 03:12:40 pm »
The non religious bit was added later and more as a contrast to the religious (and being such it is still fits the bill of singling out based on religion).



How can contrasting a non-religious influence fit the bill of singling out a religion?  Are you implicitly suggesting that voting according to some religious belief is the same as voting without the contraints of such religious beliefs?



There is an obvious (and flawed) point of view of the OP being that religious will vote republican through some ability to divine the will of God.  There is so much wrong about a conclusion like that, that the only thing one can deem from it is prejudiced person.



That does not follow; the way the thread's question is phrased leaves any respondants to answer "yes" or "no" without overtly considering 'divining the will' of any deities.  Your conclusion jumps the gun in estimating the intent of the question.  Although it does inherently presume that the voter either does or, does not believe in a "god", this doesn't necessarily influence the voting process.  Theoretically, a voter who believes in "god" can vote without that belief having any overt influence on their vote, (which is equivalent to a non-believer voting without a disbelief having any influence over their voting).




Considering that he has repeatedly accused me of being a racist and a homophobic because I believe in God I cannot really conclude anything else except that it is purely prejudicial against religion.



The irony of being "prejudiced" against someone who is prejudiced would be humorous were it not so prevalent.
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Re: Will God have a role in how you vote?
« Reply #14 on: January 17, 2012, 03:16:12 pm »
Reality is proving itself on my facebook page, growing up Mormon, I have a lot of friends who remain in that faith (I do not) and are not shy about voting Romney in solely on his LDS religion.  To quote one of my fb Mormon friends "He is temple endowed, that means he is worthy and has my vote".  

I guess the question could also be posed "would you re-elect Obama if it was proven he was a Muslim" as some claim...


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