How To Handle Christian Persecution On FusionCash

[jcribb16]

It's actually none of your business whether believers or even non-believers have any "latent ability to reason."  They are free to "reason" however they wish. 

When they, or anyone, posts to a forum with irrational non-reasoning, they're making it other people's "business" and those others are as "free" to oppose such nonsense as 'believers' are to post nonsense.
 

I'm no "pseudo-champion of Christian pseudo-underdogs."  

Your business as far as opposing respectful remarks.  But not as hateful and intolerance continually post after post.  There's a line of common courtesy - you totally exploit that line.

Then someone has been using your computer and 'nym to post numerous archived examples of your acting like one.

[jcribb16]

It's actually none of your business whether believers or even non-believers have any "latent ability to reason."  They are free to "reason" however they wish. 

When they, or anyone, posts to a forum with irrational non-reasoning, they're making it other people's "business" and those others are as "free" to oppose such nonsense as 'believers' are to post nonsense.
 

I'm no "pseudo-champion of Christian pseudo-underdogs."  

Then someone has been using your computer and 'nym to post numerous archived examples of your acting like one.

Why are you so bothered about whether I act like one or not?  It's not hurting you any.  You are the one being ugly.

[jcribb16]

 

You have been told this before.  You are forcing your names onto believers within your twisted context and loathing of Godly things.

You're an ignorant liar as the following shows;

"The word fundamentalism originally referred to fundamental beliefs that existed solely within Christianity. many evangelical Christian leaders and churchmen who believed in the inerrancy of the Bible came together and formed the American Bible League in 1902. Between 1910 and 1915 these evangelicals published a series of 12 pamphlets called The Fundamentals: A testimony to the truth."
-- http://creationwiki.org/Fundamentalism

Clear evidence therefore exists to contradict your unfounded 'offense' at a xtian term, applied by xtians to some xtians.

ONCE AGAIN:  We do NOT call ourselves "fundies" nor "xtains."

It's 'xtians', not "xtains".  It's just as easy to get what your complaining about right for an "English teacher" as it is to write it 100 times on a blackboard to learn that.  Regardless, both terms were coined by xtians to describe other xtians.

I am specifically using the specific shortcut sarcastic words you use to refer to us. Fundie is not fundamentalist.  Please get that.

It's amusing that you presume to give 'orders' as if I'd obey a religious zealot.  Heh.  Be that as it may, both terms are abbreviations of the same words coined by xtians.  Your point is therefore a non sequitur and logically irrelevant.

So you admit you are using them to provoke.

There is no such admission in my replies because your assertion is false, (a lie).

You are ridiculous.

And you've posted yet another lie, in your own words, which is not some 'twist' or reinterpretation of those words while still choosing do dodge rebuttals of your recent contentions regarding the origins of "fundie/fundamentalist" and "xtian".  By now, anyone else would have learned that such diversions don't work on me; perhaps such remedial reiterations are required unless you never will 'get it'.

You love using "lie" and "liar" a lot.  

You posted lies, I indicated where you lied, you don't like that, life is rough.

You are a sinner just like everyone else everywhere.  

Your religious precepts don't apply to me since I'm not a follower of your superstitious beliefs.

Being a sinner does apply to you.  It applies to everyone, whether believers or not.  No one is perfect in this world, not even you.  I hate to burst your huge bubble of ego, but you do wrong things just as everyone else.  You are associating the word "sinner" with Christ, but I am not with this example of you and everyone and me.  We all sin - do wrong, whether intentional or accidental. 

Oh yes, life is tough for many - but it doesn't excuse you from your "lying" accusations that you think you have never done.

[jcribb16]

If certain posters don't like religious prosthelytizing why wouldn't they just "ignore"  
Christians (or xtians) or better yet, not purposely seek them out just for arguments sake.  That would be the normal response.

Alternatively, if xtians don't like opposing/dissenting points of view, why don't they just use the ignore button instead of initiating trolling and calling-out threads?

It is NOT "initiating trolling." 

The reference was to two recent, (and several previous), threads which were calling-out/trolling threads started/initiated by xtians.  Those
threads were subsequently locked by Admin as being against FC posting policies.

No one is forcing you to open threads that do not pertain to you or your interests.  

No one is 'forcing' you or others to read replies which oppose your interests.

If they were actual trolling posts, they would be removed, banned, and then you would have a legitimate gripe. 

The calling-out threads referred to were locked, though those who started them were not banned.
 

As for the "call-out" threads, I agree that those threads are wrong and unnecessary, although I can understand the frustration of ones who attempt them.  And notice, those particular threads were locked and reminded posters that call-out threads are not permitted. 

Since those are the threads which were being referred to, I'm already aware of what happened.  As to other threads which have not been deemed as "trolling" by FC Admin/moderators, those often contain the same content as calling-out threads however, FC uses more than that as moderation criteria.

In red:  That is illogical because you are the one derailing the thread with your intolerant remarks.  It's you that can use the Ignore Button, as well.  But as I have already said, you enjoy what you are doing and it's pure devilishness to be so intolerant and rude in every thread after almost every comment.  That's a strong example of hateful trolling and you know this, but you do not care - that's the truth of the whole matter.

[falcon9]

You are a sinner just like everyone else everywhere.  

Your religious precepts don't apply to me since I'm not a follower of your superstitious beliefs.

Being a sinner does apply to you.  It applies to everyone, whether believers or not.  No one is perfect in this world, not even you. 

Your religious presumption is offensive to those who don't hold the superstitious beliefs you do.  The concept of "sinner" is a religious one and since I'm not a follower of that religious precept, it does not apply to me.  Your arrogant insistance that it does is contemptible.

I hate to burst your huge bubble of ego, but you do wrong things just as everyone else. 

I don't mind bursting your falsely-inflated ego by pointing out 'doing things wrong' and "sinning" aren't equivalent concepts.  The first is a vague/undefined value judgement and the latter is a religious value judgement.

You are associating the word "sinner" with Christ, but I am not with this example of you and everyone and me.  We all sin - do wrong, whether intentional or accidental. 

Once again, the concept of "sin" is a religious one and having a xtian fundie try to apply to to a non-xtian is offensively-arrogant and contemptible.

[falcon9]

If certain posters don't like religious prosthelytizing why wouldn't they just "ignore"  
Christians (or xtians) or better yet, not purposely seek them out just for arguments sake.  That would be the normal response.

Alternatively, if xtians don't like opposing/dissenting points of view, why don't they just use the ignore button instead of initiating trolling and calling-out threads?

It is NOT "initiating trolling."

The reference was to two recent, (and several previous), threads which were calling-out/trolling threads started/initiated by xtians.  Those
threads were subsequently locked by Admin as being against FC posting policies.

No one is forcing you to open threads that do not pertain to you or your interests.  

No one is 'forcing' you or others to read replies which oppose your interests.

No one is permitted under FC posting policies to post such calling-out threads and being "forced" or not forced to read them is irrelevant.

If they were actual trolling posts, they would be removed, banned, and then you would have a legitimate gripe.

The calling-out threads referred to were locked, though those who started them were not banned.

As for the "call-out" threads, I agree that those threads are wrong and unnecessary, although I can understand the frustration of ones who attempt them.  And notice, those particular threads were locked and reminded posters that call-out threads are not permitted.  

Since those are the threads which were being referred to, I'm already aware of what happened.  As to other threads which have not been deemed as "trolling" by FC Admin/moderators, those often contain the same content as calling-out threads however, FC uses more than that as moderation criteria.

In red:  That is illogical because you are the one derailing the thread with your intolerant remarks.  

No, your unsupported assertion is illogical in the face of the refutations preceding your assertion since you're complaining about calling-out threads being "derailed", (as if such threads were permitted in the first place).  That's as illogical as a burglar complaining that she's being arrested for burglary.

[jcribb16]

You are a sinner just like everyone else everywhere.  

Your religious precepts don't apply to me since I'm not a follower of your superstitious beliefs.

Being a sinner does apply to you.  It applies to everyone, whether believers or not.  No one is perfect in this world, not even you. 

Your religious presumption is offensive to those who don't hold the superstitious beliefs you do.  The concept of "sinner" is a religious one and since I'm not a follower of that religious precept, it does not apply to me.  Your arrogant insistance that it does is contemptible.

I hate to burst your huge bubble of ego, but you do wrong things just as everyone else. 

I don't mind bursting your falsely-inflated ego by pointing out 'doing things wrong' and "sinning" aren't equivalent concepts.  The first is a vague/undefined value judgement and the latter is a religious value judgement.

You are associating the word "sinner" with Christ, but I am not with this example of you and everyone and me.  We all sin - do wrong, whether intentional or accidental. 

Once again, the concept of "sin" is a religious one and having a xtian fundie try to apply to to a non-xtian is offensively-arrogant and contemptible.

False.  A sinner is a wrong doer, whether Christian or dis-believer, and continues with synonyms, as well.

(And no one is being offensive - you are not being forced to make a decision for Christ, so please get over the ridiculous whining.  If you oppose it so vehemently, then say no, ignore the thread, or visit other threads.  You won't though, because you enjoy pestering believers, so with that, when others respond back about your opposition - if you can't take the heat then stay out of the "kitchen" (or thread, in this case, if you dare.)  But as part of the never-ending circle, we know you enjoy bashing believers, so you will stayed glued to the threads so as to insult the believers anyway.  Pitiful...)

sin·ner  (snr)
n.
1. One that sins or does wrong; a transgressor.
2. A scamp.
The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition copyright ©2000 by Houghton Mifflin Company. Updated in 2009. Published by Houghton Mifflin Company. All rights reserved.

scamp 1  (skmp)
n.
1. A rogue; a rascal.
2. A mischievous youngster.

scamp 2  (skmp)
tr.v. scamped, scamp·ing, scamps
To perform in a careless superficial way.


Noun   1.   sinner - a person who sins (without repenting)
evildoer
offender, wrongdoer - a person who transgresses moral or civil law
Based on WordNet 3.0, Farlex clipart collection. © 2003-2012 Princeton University, Farlex Inc.

 dev·il·ing
To annoy, torment, or harass.

devil
a person or animal regarded as cruel, wicked, or ill-natured

a.  to cause a commotion
b.  to make a great protest

devil - a rowdy or mischievous person (usually a young man); "he chased the young hellions out of his yard"
hellion, heller
bad hat, mischief-maker, trouble maker, troublemaker, troubler - someone who deliberately stirs up trouble

[falcon9]

A sinner is a wrong doer, whether Christian or dis-believer, and continues with synonyms, as well.

False. From http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/sin:

"2 - 'sin':
a: transgression of the law of G-d
b: a vitiated state of human nature in which the self is estranged from G-d"

(And no one is being offensive)

False. Your insistance on apply xtian concepts to non-xtians is offensive.

If you oppose it so vehemently, then say no, ignore the thread, or visit other threads. 

Vehement opposition does not consist of ignoring what's being opposed, (since that's yet another irrational attempt by a xtian fundie to restrict/supress/repress opposing points of view).

... if you can't take the heat then stay out of the "kitchen" (or thread, in this case, if you dare.)  

Being that you are unable to take your own advise, (doubtless since that would be self-censoring/self-restricting and self-blinding), such a 'suggestion' is ironic, given that you're the one who "can't take the heat" of rational opposition to your irrational religious beliefs.

[hitch0403]

Sin=To miss the mark or standard of the Creator and penalty of it was death.

[falcon9]

Thanks for moving this topic to the Debate & Discuss forum, Kohler.  It's been a long time coming and appareciated.

[vmcutshall]

You don't have to read what they write, just ignore it and enjoy what fellow Christians have to say.

[jcribb16]

A sinner is a wrong doer, whether Christian or dis-believer, and continues with synonyms, as well.

False. From http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/sin:

"2 - 'sin':
a: transgression of the law of G-d
b: a vitiated state of human nature in which the self is estranged from G-d"

(And no one is being offensive)

False. Your insistance on apply xtian concepts to non-xtians is offensive.

If you oppose it so vehemently, then say no, ignore the thread, or visit other threads. 

Vehement opposition does not consist of ignoring what's being opposed, (since that's yet another irrational attempt by a xtian fundie to restrict/supress/repress opposing points of view).

... if you can't take the heat then stay out of the "kitchen" (or thread, in this case, if you dare.)  

Being that you are unable to take your own advise, (doubtless since that would be self-censoring/self-restricting and self-blinding), such a 'suggestion' is ironic, given that you're the one who "can't take the heat" of rational opposition to your irrational religious beliefs.

Sin is wrong doing and not necessarily only related to God.

sin -
any reprehensible or regrettable action, behavior, lapse, etc.; great fault or offense:

to offend against a principle, standard, etc.

Origin:
before 900;  (noun) Middle English; Old English syn ( n ) offense, misdeed; akin to German Sünde, Old Norse synd  sin, Latin sōns  guilty; (v.) derivative of the noun, replacing Middle English sin ( i ) gen, syn ( i ) gen, Old English syngian,  itself derivative of the noun

Synonyms
1.  trespass, violation. 2.  wrong, wickedness.

( usually foll by  against ) to commit an offence (against a person, principle, etc)

Synonyms
1. bad, evil, wicked, sinful, immoral, iniquitous, reprehensible, crooked. 2. inaccurate, incorrect, false, untrue, mistaken. 6. improper, unsuitable. 8. misdoing, wickedness, sin, vice. 12. maltreat, abuse, oppress, cheat, defraud, dishonor.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/sin?db=*

[diala84]

I personally feel that people of all faiths or lack there of shouldn't have reason to hate or disrespect one another. I don't believe in God but I do accept that others believe and if these beliefs better their life's who am I to judge or put them down. Some people always want to be in the right and want to tell others so they don't make a mistake. I have often been harassed by religious people because of my lack of faith because in some way they want to save me. This can be just as hurtful as atheists posting messages condemning quotes from the bible. Most people have a very strong belief one way or another and trying to convince those that disagree with your view is about as likely as finding a needle in 1,000,000 haystacks. People have to want to change a belief for what you say to have any effect; Otherwise, it is just hurtful.     

[falcon9]

Sin is wrong doing and not necessarily only related to God.

I'm aware of the fact that the meaning of the term predates xtian assimulation and usage.  It remains that such recent usage of the term is religious in nature.

From http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/sin:

"2 - 'sin':
a: transgression of the law of G-d
b: a vitiated state of human nature in which the self is estranged from G-d"

[fc2]

We may be persecuted, but we can also continue on with prayer for God to have His holy spirit to interced for us believers in times such as this  .