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jcribb16

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Re: How To Handle Christian Persecution On FusionCash
« Reply #285 on: October 30, 2012, 10:45:04 pm »
I cannot speak for anyone but myself regarding that.  I have had prayers answered completely and beyond a shadow of a doubt, because of the way in which they were prayed for, and how they were answered.  I have seen friends and family members have their prayers answered, some completely, others in a round-about way.  There have been "Gideon" prayers made, with only certain requests made, and only those requests answered.  But like I said, I can only speak from my own personal experience with prayer.

There have also been a couple of things that have happened in my young adult and now in my middle-aged life.  Things that I heard and knew exactly what it was; something I smelled that was not there, but represented something about someone, at the time (that was also involved with answer to prayer.) 

There were 3 certain things that happened with my older son when he was much younger - that would send shivers down your spine - or at least it did with myself, my husband, and some friends who saw or heard.  One thing had to do with seeing our daughter's guardian angel hovering overhead - his eyes, our other son's eyes, and our daughter's eyes were all watching whatever it was at the ceiling.  He could not understand why daddy and mommy could not see her angel watching over her.

Another was something he saw happen in the sky or heaven (as he called it) and could not understand why I could not see Jesus looking out of the little door in the sky. I humored him at first trying to look and see a cloud shaped door or whatever, but he said the door had closed and I had missed out.

The 3rd thing had something to do with "sensing" 16 pregnancies in a row (of myself, our pastor's wife at the time, a couple of other ladies in the church, and outside of the church (friends)) - and how he knew what God had picked them to be, whether boy or girl.  The 16th one, and the last one, I might add, he "sensed," took place when he was 6 years old.  Our close friends had been trying to conceive for years and could not.  He upped and said one day to her that they were going to have a baby boy on a Tuesday.  After him getting 15 others right, this was by far the oddest because she wasn't pregnant then, and why the Tuesday? 

A few months later, the friend's cousin had a baby at the age of 15, and didn't want it.  The aunt/uncle discussed with our friends whether or not they would like to adopt the baby, and they said they would, plus that would keep it in the family, so to speak.  About 3 months after the baby was born, they went to the different state to finalize the adoption.  The baby was a boy, by the way. 

A few days later, she called, all excited because they officially now had their baby boy, and it was also on a Tuesday!  We all had shivers then.  Our son just looked at us and said, "I told ya so that that's what God wanted for them - baby boy on Tuesday."

Anyway, those things that happened were in our personal lives, and while we saw, heard, or experienced things, that were definitely out of the ordinary, I realize it doesn't meant it will be accepted by you or anyone else, and that's fine.  We experienced them, others did who were around us during that time, and that's what counts for us.

Our pastor at the time, while in Israel, had an experience that happened, that totally stunned him, and while some didn't believe him, others did.  When he started sharing about it, including offering some studies regarding what he learned over there, he became quite ill from some infection acquired overseas, and died - no one, not even his wife, ever really knew just exactly what had happened while in Israel, but it changed him greatly.

I am not in the habit of sharing things like this on a forum board, but went ahead tonight, anyway.  All I ask, please, that if you choose to disregard any and all of it, that is perfectly fine, but please don't make an issue of it, or laugh about it, or mock it - only because they are special to me and my family, and we did experience it, ourselves.  I still don't feel I should explain totally what happened with my personal experiences that I mentioned, mainly because they are very personal and mean a lot to me.

Thank you for indulging me with the length - I'm sorry it is rather long.

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Re: How To Handle Christian Persecution On FusionCash
« Reply #286 on: October 31, 2012, 04:08:44 pm »
i believe religion was invented to make ppl scared and have followers

I can see your opinion on that. However true faith in God is being saved. Being saved does not mean someone has to totally live in an unfun life. It means trusting Jesus Christ to save you from your sins. Once that happens you get the Holy Ghost which gives you comfort and a good discernment between right and wrong. God did make right and wrongs for a reason. He did not want rap, murder, and an unclean life. However, God does not force people. You can see this a lot in the New Testement. When people came after Jesus He didn't just poof and destroy them, He moved on. He wanted tro give people salvation, but it is their choice like doing right and doing wrong.
Lord Jesus Christ is the only way for eternal salvation from sins. Jesus loves you.

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Re: How To Handle Christian Persecution On FusionCash
« Reply #287 on: October 31, 2012, 04:16:27 pm »
i believe religion was invented to make ppl scared and have followers

I can see your opinion on that. However true faith in God is being saved. 

Since "faith" is 'belief without evidence', such an opinion as yours is rendered as void.  There is also no rationality at all behind "soteriology", (the absolution of "sins through blood sacrifice").
One can lead a horse to water however, if one holds the horse's head under, that horse will drown.

             

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Re: How To Handle Christian Persecution On FusionCash
« Reply #288 on: October 31, 2012, 04:44:36 pm »
i believe religion was invented to make ppl scared and have followers

I can see your opinion on that. However true faith in God is being saved. Being saved does not mean someone has to totally live in an unfun life. It means trusting Jesus Christ to save you from your sins. Once that happens you get the Holy Ghost which gives you comfort and a good discernment between right and wrong. God did make right and wrongs for a reason. He did not want rap, murder, and an unclean life. However, God does not force people. You can see this a lot in the New Testement. When people came after Jesus He didn't just poof and destroy them, He moved on. He wanted tro give people salvation, but it is their choice like doing right and doing wrong.
Just backing you that your answer is not void and irrational.  You have some great answers coming.  :)

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Re: How To Handle Christian Persecution On FusionCash
« Reply #289 on: October 31, 2012, 05:00:10 pm »
However true faith in God is being saved. Being saved does not mean ... trusting Jesus Christ to save you from your sins. Once that happens you get the Holy Ghost which ... God did make right and wrongs ... When people came after Jesus He didn't just poof and destroy them ...

Just backing you that your answer is not void and irrational.  You have some great answers coming.  :)

Encouraging such superstitious religious beliefs in another faith-blinded fundie is specious.  They're already self-decieved by irrationality and lack of reasoning to the extent that you're "preaching to the choir" in that regard.  Such 'enabling' comes across as attempting to prop-up a weak religious position.
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Re: How To Handle Christian Persecution On FusionCash
« Reply #290 on: October 31, 2012, 07:19:00 pm »
"....God did make right and wrongs for a reason. He did not want rap, murder, and...."

He did not want rap?
What.....he heard it.....somewhere...and just didn't like it, or.......??
                    
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Re: How To Handle Christian Persecution On FusionCash
« Reply #291 on: October 31, 2012, 07:23:05 pm »
"....God did make right and wrongs for a reason. He did not want rap, murder, and...."

He did not want rap?
What.....he heard it.....somewhere...and just didn't like it, or.......??

Obviously, "rap" is 'satanic', otherwise an unspecified number of "angels" would be dancing on the heads of pins to it.
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Re: How To Handle Christian Persecution On FusionCash
« Reply #292 on: October 31, 2012, 07:32:16 pm »
Why can you not have a discussion without all of your name calling? Is it not in in to do that? I just dont understand!  :dontknow: Maybe you would get your points across better if you tried that way some time. Just saying!

There was no "name-calling" in the previous reply. 

I have to agree - no name-calling, as falcon9 says.

From the Merriam-Webster dictionary: definition of name-calling (I took the liberty of 'bolding' some key words):

 The use of offensive names especially to win an argument or to induce rejection or condemnation (as of a person or project) without objective consideration of the facts.
                    
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Re: How To Handle Christian Persecution On FusionCash
« Reply #293 on: November 06, 2012, 01:19:27 pm »
I began a thread called The Final Solution for F9.  This morning I looked for it and it has been deleted.  I questioned that and the Administrator wrote:  "That thread, like this one, is not permitted under our policy of "no calling-out topics".  Forum topics are for community participation and not for attacking or addressing individual members." 
In the thread I suggested that anyone having a problem with a poster (Falcon9 or anyone else).  Maybe I should not have made this the topic, but he himself has said If you don't like it, use the Ignore button."  That is exactly what i was saying.  I have been attacked numerous times by this person. 

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Re: How To Handle Christian Persecution On FusionCash {trolling post}
« Reply #294 on: November 06, 2012, 01:27:13 pm »
I began a thread called The Final Solution for F9.  This morning I looked for it and it has been deleted.  I questioned that and the Administrator wrote:  "That thread, like this one, is not permitted under our policy of "no calling-out topics".  Forum topics are for community participation and not for attacking or addressing individual members." 
In the thread I suggested that anyone having a problem with a poster (Falcon9 or anyone else).  Maybe I should not have made this the topic, but he himself has said If you don't like it, use the Ignore button."  That is exactly what i was saying. 

No, you posted another "calling out" thread, even after Adminpublically-posted that such were "not permitted under [FC] policy of "no calling-out topics". Further, your calling out post called for a mass 'shunning'/use of the 'Ignore button' of a named FC member, (that's not permitted under their no calling out policy).

I have been attacked numerous times by this person. 

False.  Posts made by you were challenged on the basis of logic, (and the lack thereof in the irrational religious assertions made).  These challenges are not 'attacks' on persons; they are opposition to superstitious religious beliefs, (the two are separate concepts).
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Re: How To Handle Christian Persecution of non-xtians On FusionCash
« Reply #295 on: November 06, 2012, 02:02:46 pm »
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the Administrator wrote:  "That thread, like this one, is not permitted under our policy of "no calling-out topics".  Forum topics are for community participation and not for attacking or addressing individual members."

xtian-instigated calling-out threads locked/removed by Admin/moderators:

"Re: Forums becoming unbelievable"
"Re: Pest control offer"
"THE FINAL SOLUTION TO F9?"
"Re: Kohler: Original posters' thread titles are being changed w/in threads"
"This would be hell for me"
"okay falcon9 I buddy I gotta ask"
"pray for Falcon9"
"Sorry,but i have to ask this"
"already in love=)"
"trollings people on the internet..."
"Hey Falcon"

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Number of "calling-out" threads started by non-xtians locked/removed:

ZERO  
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Re: How To Handle Christian Persecution On FusionCash
« Reply #296 on: November 06, 2012, 02:51:51 pm »
I began a thread called The Final Solution for F9.  This morning I looked for it and it has been deleted.  I questioned that and the Administrator wrote:  "That thread, like this one, is not permitted under our policy of "no calling-out topics".  Forum topics are for community participation and not for attacking or addressing individual members." 
In the thread I suggested that anyone having a problem with a poster (Falcon9 or anyone else).  Maybe I should not have made this the topic, but he himself has said If you don't like it, use the Ignore button."  That is exactly what i was saying.  I have been attacked numerous times by this person. 
I am frankly amazed at how much is allowed to go on - people were suspended or banned for less; and are in other forums for such intolerance.  I'm learning that the "golden rule" is apparently differently used or changed for convenience, depending on where posters go and who posters are.  I've noticed more and more are questioning lately. 

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Re: How To Handle Christian Persecution of non-xtians On FusionCash
« Reply #297 on: November 06, 2012, 03:00:14 pm »
I am frankly amazed at how much is allowed to go on - people were suspended or banned for less ...

It's amazing that the instigators of such "calling-out" threads which violate FC policy aren't suspended or banned for such.

xtian-instigated calling-out threads locked/removed by Admin/moderators:

"Re: Forums becoming unbelievable"
"Re: Pest control offer"
"THE FINAL SOLUTION TO F9?"
"Re: Kohler: Original posters' thread titles are being changed w/in threads"
"This would be hell for me"
"okay falcon9 I buddy I gotta ask"
"pray for Falcon9"
"Sorry,but i have to ask this"
"already in love=)"
"trollings people on the internet..."
"Hey Falcon"

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Number of "calling-out" threads started by non-xtians locked/removed:

ZERO

I'm learning that the "golden rule" is apparently differently used or changed for convenience, depending on where posters go and who posters are.

That's a direct insult to FC moderator staff.  Though "permitted", it's still childishly-petulant insinuation.
One can lead a horse to water however, if one holds the horse's head under, that horse will drown.

             

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Re: How To Handle Christian Persecution of non-xtians On FusionCash
« Reply #298 on: November 06, 2012, 04:58:27 pm »
I am frankly amazed at how much is allowed to go on - people were suspended or banned for less ...

It's amazing that the instigators of such "calling-out" threads which violate FC policy aren't suspended or banned for such.

xtian-instigated calling-out threads locked/removed by Admin/moderators:

"Re: Forums becoming unbelievable"
"Re: Pest control offer"
"THE FINAL SOLUTION TO F9?"
"Re: Kohler: Original posters' thread titles are being changed w/in threads"
"This would be hell for me"
"okay falcon9 I buddy I gotta ask"
"pray for Falcon9"
"Sorry,but i have to ask this"
"already in love=)"
"trollings people on the internet..."
"Hey Falcon"

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Number of "calling-out" threads started by non-xtians locked/removed:

ZERO

I'm learning that the "golden rule" is apparently differently used or changed for convenience, depending on where posters go and who posters are.

That's a direct insult to FC moderator staff.  Though "permitted", it's still childishly-petulant insinuation.
Your childishly-petulant behavior is "permitted," too, so, go pout some more - your hatefulness towards believers is rejected.

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Re: How To Handle Christian Persecution On FusionCash
« Reply #299 on: November 06, 2012, 05:01:30 pm »
I wonder which rule I will be breaking with the following:  I have a sneaking suspicion Falcon9 and the Administrator are one and the same person.  This is just my opinion.  I am not indulging in name-calling (I don't think).  I really don't see any difference in what i suggested and what others have suggested - if you don't like the postings of one or more posters, use the IGNORE button.  

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