New Christian Question #1: How did God make the night, day, and plants BEFORE

[hitch0403]

Also when you factor in the bible is a divine written book written by over 40 writers and the theme is the same....and also that Jesus the son of God walked the earth 2000 yrs ago its pretty hard to NOT accept it.

Everything is in order but the human race......why..cos man rebelled and God allowed it to go on to prove alienation from him causes chaos.

Yet we are free to decide if we accept his rule or not.

[Falconer02]

Unfortunatly atheists are always going to hide behind "burden of proof" arguements.But as I posted to one such atheist here,what proof do we have that Columbus came to America?Should we go by ancient documents at face value in that case but not the Bible?

Actually the problem with your reasoning here is your ignorance of doing basic research on the subject. If I gave you documents from various sources showing the legitimacy of Columbus's journey (maps, his writings, gov't documents from the past, etc.), you would then be stricken with showing us how we're wrong and why. Are there discrepancies? Inconsistencies? Is his journal a forgery and not real? etc. If you could not show this, then you have nothing to work with. Therefore the burden of proof is on you to prove us wrong. Not the other way around.

That aside, atheists have already shown major problems with your beliefs countless times on this forum, and you have failed to counter-argue these claims every time they are brought up. Some even have gone so far as to show how truly immoral your beliefs really are-- a sign that you were cornered. You either disappear, type more illogical assumptions, or go straight for the personal attacks, which are all either signs of squirming or defeat in an argument.

[falcon9]

Unfortunatly atheists are always going to hide behind "burden of proof" arguements.But as I posted to one such atheist here,what proof do we have that Columbus came to America?Should we go by ancient documents at face value in that case but not the Bible?

Actually the problem with your reasoning here is your ignorance of doing basic research on the subject.

There's that and the problem that he isn't using any actual reasoning by implying that religious adherents who make religious claims are somehow exempt from teh burden of proof to substantiate their religious claims.  They're not.

If I gave you documents from various sources showing the legitimacy of Columbus's journey (maps, his writings, gov't documents from the past, etc.), you would then be stricken with showing us how we're wrong and why. Are there discrepancies? Inconsistencies? Is his journal a forgery and not real? etc. If you could not show this, then you have nothing to work with. Therefore the burden of proof is on you to prove us wrong. Not the other way around.

That aside, atheists have already shown major problems with your beliefs countless times on this forum, and you have failed to counter-argue these claims every time they are brought up. Some even have gone so far as to show how truly immoral your beliefs really are-- a sign that you were cornered. You either disappear, type more illogical assumptions, or go straight for the personal attacks, which are all either signs of squirming or defeat in an argument.

That's an absolutely accurate summation, (despite any previous or future empty denials by the religious adherents so accurately described).