Another Shooting?

[lvstephanie]

It's been reported today that the FBI found that the female shooter had pledged allegiance to ISIS on FB, and there's additional evidence that they tried to cover their electronic trail by destroying hard-drives, cell phones, etc.  And US Attorney General stated “We don't know if it was terrorism or workplace rage. There is an investigation to determine why it happened, how did they obtain the means for this and what else might've been planned." Because spur-of-the-moment workplace violence requires a pledge to a terrorist organization, construction of pipe bombs in the garage, and attempts to hide a possible trail of evidence to a non-premeditated crime o.O

[mrisha]

I read some of the feedback of people stating it's President Obama fault because more crimes are being committed since there is a ban on carrying weapons.  People stop getting it twisted.  There will always be guns around and it's the people who hurt and kill other people.  I agree about all the shootings that are happening everyday, something has got to be done about weapons getting into the hands of people who kill others. 

[hitch0403]

The headline in The NY Daily News yesterday RE the shooting in Ca,"God isnt fixing this"

Amazing how HE gets blamed!!He tells us thru HIS word whats going to happen and what to do to gain salvation and if HE doesnt respond immediately to tradegy HE gets blamed.

There is a scripture in Exodus when Pharoah refused to let Gods people go that God said to him after already giving his some warnings how HE could have wiped Pharoah and his people from the face of the earth but kept them in existence to show Jehovah IS God almighty and have HIS name declared worldwide!

That will happen soon when governements will turn on Christendom and destroy her as spoken of in Revelation.Christendom being referred to as Babylon the Great.Then they come after Gods people as they still see them standing and it will be like touching Jehovahs eyeball as the scripture states in Ezekiel!

The lesson the bible teaches thru-out if that God fights for a delivers HIS people!!Many examples thru-out HIS word!!And many examples of HIS people being punished when they turn to man-made salvation and reject God!!

Book of Isaiah good place to start to find those examples and of course most already know of Moses and Exodus and how his people were delivered when God opened up Red Sea for HIS people and annihilated the Egyptians by it.

I dont think even Santa Claus will help this world to those that hold onto that Wackiness!

[JaniceSW]

The question is why is the U.S. supposedly one of the most civilized nations in the world but one third of all gun violence is here in the U.S.  What is wrong with the society and culture?  Why do we so often resort to violence like this?  It is crazy that so many think the way to have their way or get even is to kill somebody.  Why no sanctity of life?  Why not a fist fight and not a one-sided gunfight?  Are there that many mental cases out there?  (Yes, we all know that religions that produce extremists such as ISIS have led to some of the most outrageous acts against others.  Funny thing, ain't it?) Is it that no one  can manage anger in a sane, appropriate manner?  If you read some postings, whether on here or other major sites, it is evident not!

Frankly, Obama is not about taking guns away from everyone.  Don't some of you listen?  (Maybe that is part of the problem.)  He is about making it more difficult for some to get guns.    Why not a lengthy, comprehensive background check? Why should one be able to buy a gun online or at a gun show without a background check and waiting period?  Why should the ordinary citizen need military and police weapons and ammunition?

The Second Amendment was written 200+ years ago when the culture, society, and values were much different.  Being able to carry a gun whenever and wherever you wanted was a needful thing because it was 200+ years ago.  NOT today.  Today there needs a multi-pronged approach to this issue.  Background checks, waiting periods, perhaps follow-up background checks every 4-5 years or so, mental health funding, and all of us keeping our eyes and ears open to our children, our brothers and sisters, our neighbors, our co-workers, our friends, and so forth...making sure that attention, help, and support is brought to ominous behavior.

And maybe we, as parents and citizens of this great land, need to raise our children not as bullies and the philosophy to do unto others if you don't like them, but to operate with kindness and concern and support.

[hitch0403]

Increase in lawlessness,love of greater number cooling off,fear not knowing way out.All signs Jesus spoke of in last days of this satanic independent from God system.

Been going since Cain killed Abel!

[potluck6]

Know nothing about the Muslim faith been watching some documentaries about ISIS. They seem to want Sharia Law a very strict idea.Heard that woman who are raped are held responsible and even stoned. How barbaric why would anyone want this.If you steal your hands can be cut off. Homo sexuals put to death.

[hawkeye3210]

Frankly, Obama is not about taking guns away from everyone.  Don't some of you listen?  (Maybe that is part of the problem.)  He is about making it more difficult for some to get guns.    Why not a lengthy, comprehensive background check? Why should one be able to buy a gun online or at a gun show without a background check and waiting period?  Why should the ordinary citizen need military and police weapons and ammunition?

If more gun control isn't going to prevent these situations ("Of course not" was the WH Press Secretary gave in regard to if more gun control would have prevented San Bernardino), what is the point? Other than sacrificing more of our freedoms, what are we looking to accomplish?

The fact that crazies can get guns (legally or illegally), IS exactly the reason why we should be able to carry a gun today.

[aflyingmonkey]

California doesn't have real strict gun laws.  In fact the number 1 hospital in the world for bullet wounds was Martin luther King hospital in Long Beach.  Doctors from all over the world would come to the hospital to learn how to treat gun shot victims.   High gang activity.

California has the strictest gun laws out of any state in US.

The ban on assault weapons?  The ban grandfathered in anyone who already owned them starting in 2013 -- in New York there was no grandfathering, there was a total ban.   You can't have a bazooka or a belt fed machine gun like you can in some other states, here in California.  California isn't strict about guns, if you want one you can get one it just needs to be licensed.   California doesn't have strict gun laws, perhaps "stricter" than others, but they are definitely not strict. 

[hawkeye3210]

California doesn't have real strict gun laws.  In fact the number 1 hospital in the world for bullet wounds was Martin luther King hospital in Long Beach.  Doctors from all over the world would come to the hospital to learn how to treat gun shot victims.   High gang activity.

California has the strictest gun laws out of any state in US.

The ban on assault weapons?  The ban grandfathered in anyone who already owned them starting in 2013 -- in New York there was no grandfathering, there was a total ban.   You can't have a bazooka or a belt fed machine gun like you can in some other states, here in California.  California isn't strict about guns, if you want one you can get one it just needs to be licensed.   California doesn't have strict gun laws, perhaps "stricter" than others, but they are definitely not strict. 

California has been judged to have the strictest gun laws out of any state by numerous independent studies. That is nothing new. California banned assault weapons back in 1989 and it was amended to include other high power rifles in 2004. To contrary, it was New York State that did not bad Assault Weapons until 2013, and those bought before 2013 were grandfathered in. New York City has separate laws.

[paints]

Know nothing about the Muslim faith been watching some documentaries about ISIS. They seem to want Sharia Law a very strict idea.Heard that woman who are raped are held responsible and even stoned. How barbaric why would anyone want this.If you steal your hands can be cut off. Homo sexuals put to death.

Have you not been listening to some of the more insane Christian preachers? They preach the same thing.

ISIS is not Muslim.  ISIS are mercenaries, funded by the US, UK, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, and a few more.

[JaniceSW]

ISIS and the like do NOT represent the ordinary, everyday Muslim who wants to live their life and raise their children as everyone normal does.  ISIS and their counterparts are religious zealots who believe that everyone, and I mean EVERYONE, should be a Muslim such as them or else die.  Even if you are Muslim, if you do not believe in the interpretation of the Quoran that they believe, then you can die.  They have become extremists, sociopaths, believing that Allah (sp?) blesses them for their extreme interpretation.  They believe they are doing what they do in the name of Allah.  Religious zealots, if you read history, always believe they have the Supreme Being's blessing to operate with no parameters, sometimes committing atrocities, to bring the infidel, or non-believer, in line.

[aflyingmonkey]

California doesn't have real strict gun laws.  In fact the number 1 hospital in the world for bullet wounds was Martin luther King hospital in Long Beach.  Doctors from all over the world would come to the hospital to learn how to treat gun shot victims.   High gang activity.

California has the strictest gun laws out of any state in US.

The ban on assault weapons?  The ban grandfathered in anyone who already owned them starting in 2013 -- in New York there was no grandfathering, there was a total ban.   You can't have a bazooka or a belt fed machine gun like you can in some other states, here in California.  California isn't strict about guns, if you want one you can get one it just needs to be licensed.   California doesn't have strict gun laws, perhaps "stricter" than others, but they are definitely not strict. 

California has been judged to have the strictest gun laws out of any state by numerous independent studies. That is nothing new. California banned assault weapons back in 1989 and it was amended to include other high power rifles in 2004. To contrary, it was New York State that did not bad Assault Weapons until 2013, and those bought before 2013 were grandfathered in. New York City has separate laws.

California may have the strictest laws in the country but the laws are not strict at all.   Using the word "strict" is a joke.    The laws in reality aren't strict at all, just basic rules & regulations.  I don't feel like they are strict.  Strict with personal carrying of a concealed gun, perhaps.

In New York, The Safe Act, doesn't exactly grandfather them in.  They had a year to register their previously owned gun, if they failed within the year, they now have an illegal firearm.    New York's Safe Act is noted for being the strictest in the country.  I don't know how strict getting a gun is in New York...  I hear it is tough, but I don't live there so IDK.

But I do live in California, & it is fairly reasonable process if your a law abiding citizen to acquire a gun, & easy. People have guns here, lots of them.  It's not the wild west, but I'm surprised more people in San Bernardino didn't have a weapon.  If you aren't a law abiding citizen, it's even easier to obtain a gun. 

In California, Assembly Bill 48 passed in 2013 - basically closed a loophole in previous gun legislation which tightened up assault weapon restrictions which was being exploited to make assault weapons. Essentially the previous laws still allowed for assault weapons.   

IMHO, this isn't about gun control, obviously it's not too strict here in CA look what happened in San Bernardino. In France, no legal citizen can arm themselves, but the criminals/terrorists had guns... like shooting fish in a barrel.  The bigger issue is how did Malik ( the woman shooter ) pass a Department of Homeland Security counterterrorism screening to get the K-1 visa.  Then after the 90 days, she would have had to apply for a green card through the Department of Homeland Security as the wife of an America.   How did she pass?  All that screening...   

[mrisha]

In the USA, there is always someone being shot and killed every single day.  Since the Humans can't stop the rabid dogs, it is time for the Lord to step in.  So many people do not appreciate or respect life.

[stretch1967]

This is getting old. Most of the shootings are not even americans. They are people that obama is letting in our country. Rapes murders and everything else is up because of it

[hitch0403]

In the USA, there is always someone being shot and killed every single day.  Since the Humans can't stop the rabid dogs, it is time for the Lord to step in.  So many people do not appreciate or respect life.

He will soon!When the leaders soon proclaim "peace and security"instant destruction will soon follow said the apostle Paul.Governments will wipe out Babylon the Great <false empire of christendom>...then they will turn their attention to Gods people.The beginning of Armagheddon starts!

Many examples are right before our eyes in the bible how God delivers HIS people.It will not be any different here and will be final ushering in 1000 yrs of peace thru Jesus as king and Satan and his hordes abyssed!