Food Stamps

[DwanaMR]

Paints, if someone buys groceries with his own money then it's no one's busy what he gets.  But if he's on the gov't dole then what food he buys IS my business because I'm paying for it.  And I have a perfect right to be upset if someone's buying junk like Halloween candy with funds intended for nutritious food.

Dwana, I understand what you're saying.
The thing that bothers me about it is that someone who gets food stamps is already having a hard time.  Why make it harder?

One of my neighbors has an autistic son.  He will only eat certain foods.  Right now, the only thing he will eat is french fries.  Not the easy kind that you can make yourself.  It has to be Ore-Ida thin fries, the ones that look like McDonalds fries.  She buys huge bags of them every month, because that's all he will eat.
Not at all nutritious, but he won't starve.

She buys these huge bags of french fries with food stamps.  She has endured nasty comments and dirty looks from strangers who know neither her nor her son.  Or how much anguish she has gone through to find something to feed her child that he will accept.

That's my reasoning for not judging what someone buys with food stamps.  You can't know what struggles they have.

Paints, I thoroughly sympathize with your neighbor but even in that situation she's buying food, i.e. French fries, w/food stamps.   I would not give dirty looks to someone buying French fries with food stamps.  No, fries might not be the most nutritious food out there, but they're not junk like candy.  And buying junk with food stamps is what angers me.  That, and the situation I described previously, where you have food stamp recipients who somehow manage to have plenty of cash for cigarettes, smartphones, and regular trips to the nail salon.  In those situations there's almost certainly some kind of fraud going on, and it burns me up!

[JediJohnnie]

I really don't see the problem. Candy is "food". I doubt the person in question lives solely on candy. As long as they use it on a food item and only on a food item, who cares?

[hitch0403]

I have to chuckle...seriously,the money thats wasted on war,over-paid politicians and false religeon <EX building an expensive dead concrete statue of Mary>.........

BUT NOOOOOOOOOOOO candy for you or french-fries......Gimme a break!!

[hawkeye3210]

I have to chuckle...seriously,the money thats wasted on war,over-paid politicians and false religeon <EX building an expensive dead concrete statue of Mary>.........

BUT NOOOOOOOOOOOO candy for you or french-fries......Gimme a break!!

Nice strawman. Has nothing to do with the topic.

[hitch0403]

The funds for the food stamp programs all come from public funds raised by tax payer dollars. When the government gives away money it is going to be a concern to the public. Not to mention the burden of healthcare costs have been shifted with the ACA, now those unhealthy habits will likely hit the pockets of the taxpayers again.

You said in an earlier post something about the government giving the money?If the examples i gave arent just that then i guess you just dont see it like i do.

I wouldnt worry about everyone getting diabetes or high cholesterol if they want french fries or candy either.Concentrate more on the injuries many have contracted fighting DUMB wars and living with them and they might be justified getting FS and enjoying what they wanna eat!!

OK Batman?

[hawkeye3210]

The funds for the food stamp programs all come from public funds raised by tax payer dollars. When the government gives away money it is going to be a concern to the public. Not to mention the burden of healthcare costs have been shifted with the ACA, now those unhealthy habits will likely hit the pockets of the taxpayers again.

You said in an earlier post something about the government giving the money?If the examples i gave arent just that then i guess you just dont see it like i do.

I wouldnt worry about everyone getting diabetes or high cholesterol if they want french fries or candy either.Concentrate more on the injuries many have contracted fighting DUMB wars and living with them and they might be justified getting FS and enjoying what they wanna eat!!

OK Batman?

Those would be separate issues. This topic has to do one single issue of government spending. No one is claiming that their aren't other issues concerning government spending. No one is claiming that it is more important than other issues. Throwing a red herring into the discussion only makes you look foolish.

[paints]

The food stamp budget is less than 1 percent of the total budget. 
It costs the average taxpayer 10 cents a day.
It's not a welfare program.  It's a nutrition assistance program that comes under the farm bill, run by the USDA.
Most of the people who use food stamps are working. 

Food stamps feed people who would otherwise go without.  And if occasionally someone buys something that's not nutritious, in your view, so what? 

10 cents a day doesn't give anyone the right to be a bully.

[hitch0403]

This guy stops short of crushing Obamacare and i threw in the Red Herring!!LOL!!

[hawkeye3210]

This guy stops short of crushing Obamacare and i threw in the Red Herring!!LOL!!

You really can't be that dense, can you?

[hawkeye3210]

The food stamp budget is less than 1 percent of the total budget. 
It costs the average taxpayer 10 cents a day.
It's not a welfare program.  It's a nutrition assistance program that comes under the farm bill, run by the USDA.
Most of the people who use food stamps are working. 

Food stamps feed people who would otherwise go without.  And if occasionally someone buys something that's not nutritious, in your view, so what? 

10 cents a day doesn't give anyone the right to be a bully.

So, what do you think about Michelle Obama's lunch policy? We've got teachers potentially being fined for giving out candy because it doesn't promote healthy food choices. Is she being a bully?

[hitch0403]

Can you imagine Publishers Clearing house knocking on Hawks door?

Id hope they had a runner-up!!

If you dig any deeper you will be promoting Uncle Bens!

[hawkeye3210]

Hmm...Ok.

[monnee]

Should only be used for food and NOT cigarettes and alcohol.

[paints]

The food stamp budget is less than 1 percent of the total budget. 
It costs the average taxpayer 10 cents a day.
It's not a welfare program.  It's a nutrition assistance program that comes under the farm bill, run by the USDA.
Most of the people who use food stamps are working. 

Food stamps feed people who would otherwise go without.  And if occasionally someone buys something that's not nutritious, in your view, so what? 

10 cents a day doesn't give anyone the right to be a bully.

So, what do you think about Michelle Obama's lunch policy? We've got teachers potentially being fined for giving out candy because it doesn't promote healthy food choices. Is she being a bully?

It's not just her policy. 
The USDA has been working on getting nutritious, healthy food into schools since 1966, with the Child Nutrition Act.
Setting standards and guidelines for schools is necessary for the health of our children.
Pushing institutions to raise standards and do better is not bullying.  It's what any mother who loves her children would do.

But in the grocery store, commenting on what an individual puts in their cart, as if you have the right to dictate their choices, is bullying. 

[hawkeye3210]

The food stamp budget is less than 1 percent of the total budget. 
It costs the average taxpayer 10 cents a day.
It's not a welfare program.  It's a nutrition assistance program that comes under the farm bill, run by the USDA.
Most of the people who use food stamps are working. 

Food stamps feed people who would otherwise go without.  And if occasionally someone buys something that's not nutritious, in your view, so what? 

10 cents a day doesn't give anyone the right to be a bully.

So, what do you think about Michelle Obama's lunch policy? We've got teachers potentially being fined for giving out candy because it doesn't promote healthy food choices. Is she being a bully?

It's not just her policy. 
The USDA has been working on getting nutritious, healthy food into schools since 1966, with the Child Nutrition Act.
Setting standards and guidelines for schools is necessary for the health of our children.
Pushing institutions to raise standards and do better is not bullying.  It's what any mother who loves her children would do.

But in the grocery store, commenting on what an individual puts in their cart, as if you have the right to dictate their choices, is bullying. 

As I mentioned, it didn't just raise standards, it restricted what could be sold or given out in schools. Can't sell soda/candy in vending machines anymore. Sure sounds like dictating ones choices.

No one is judging what others put in their cart or dictating their choices, it's just how they pay for it. They can still by anything with their own money. Food stamps are only meant as a supplement to a portion of a the food costs.

If the government giving you something for free but placing restrictions is now considered bullying, I think this might be a new low for the hypersensitive and entitled.