Do You Believe in Evolution?

[potluck6]

This is making me want to watch the debate on youtube between Ken Hamm and Bill Nye yeah the science guy worth watching.

[hitch0403]

Hey Potluck,lemme know if the science guy trys to prove Jesus didnt exist and why!!

I need a good laugh every now and then!!

[sgluckadoo]

Since we have fossils to show how species have changed over time, I do. that doesn't mean you cant also still have your faith.

[ricdsm]

I believe that nature changes over time and adapts.  However, I believe that only God can make something out of nothing.  One of my biggest problems w/ evolution is that no one can offer an evidenced based opinion about where the building blocks for the big bang came from.  Seems to me like there is a lot of faith associated w/ evolution.  If I'm going to exercise faith, I'd prefer putting that faith in God.  That is just my opinion. 

[tgreen20]

No - I believe in God, He is the one that created everything!!

[nmbrown863]

I don't believe in evolution.

[madeara]

No.  I believe that God created the Heavens and the Earth.

[JediJohnnie]

I realize most people are still responding to the OP and not really looking at the different ideas from other responders, but the question I would ask to ALL who have an opinion one way or the other, isn't it possible for both theories of evolution AND creation to co-exist?


I am a 100% full believer in God and Jesus Christ and cannot wait to be reunited with many of my loved ones in the afterlife provided that I am worthy to enter into Heaven.  But I am also a firm believer that dinosaurs roamed the Earth millions of years ago and that we all evolved in some fashion from some earlier primates, whether that be apes or earlier bipedal humans or whatever.


So I guess what I am saying/asking = isn't it possible that God created the universe and all of the stars and planets and also designed evolution as a part of that creative process?  Evolution and Creation do not have to be mutually exclusive.

I think both concepts are mutually exclusive. Because The bible tells us God created Man from the dust of the earth. There's no real evidence for believing Man came from Apes. That would also suggest God isn't clever enough to get something right the first time, without resorting to painful trial & error attempts. There are people that believe that each Day in the first week was actually an "age". And that's how they try and reconcile evolution. But from what I remember (and granted it's been several years) in my study of the original Hebrew, the term used to describe "Day" in the bible actually meant a literal 24 hour day.

[JediJohnnie]

I agree with UGetPaid.... I see the Bible as saying what happened and science to say how it happened. According to Genesis, the acts of creation took place in a week, with separate acts occurring in different days. Yet if the world nor any of the stars were in existence at the beginning, then the term "day" is absolutely meaningless (even moreso if you consider that the universe has billions of planets each with their own "Sun" and different rates of rotation making a "day" variable unit of measure). If God is omniscient and omnipotent, then it stands to reason that God would have known at the beginning how to create an on-going process to create humans with a plethora of different traits, such as evolution.

Discarding the theory of evolution also adds credence to God being mean, indifferent, and / or fallible. We know that there are genetic abnormalities and genetic disorders. If God created humans "from scratch" so-to-speak, then God must have incorporated those genetic conditions in humans as well. Either God did so purposely but didn't care that it would hurt humans (ie God is indifferent), God did so purposely in order to punish humans (ie God is mean), or God did so accidentally (ie God is fallible). Considering that God made male humans first (according to Genesis), then saw that man was unhappy, and so created woman later, I'm more inclined to believe that the god in the literal Bible is both fallible and not omniscient....

If on the other hand you believe that God created the evolutionary process in order to create humans, then the genetic issues can be seen as being "good". The process of evolution utilizes mutations and other genetic changes to add variety to the species' genetic makeup. Although some of these mutations may lead to the individual organism suffering, having the variety in the genetic code can also lead to another organism (of that same species) to develop an advantage in its survival. Sickle cell anemia is a genetic disorder that causes red blood cells to become deformed under certain conditions which causes them not to function correctly leading to the anemia (the inability for the red blood cells to carry oxygen as effectively). The disease is a recessive trait that only occurs when a person has the same mutation from both of their parents. Although the disease leads to many issues such as pain attacks, anemia, infection, and even strokes, it also is a very effective natural preventative to developing malaria. When the organism responsible for malaria tries to infect red blood cells (as a part of its normal life-cycle), the red blood cells will "sickle" / deform causing those blood cells to rupture and die before the organism has finished growing thus preventing it from spreading throughout the host. Additionally, people that have the sickle cell trait from only one of their parents also maintain an advantage in resisting malarial infection while at the same time experiencing few (if any) of the signs / symptoms of sickle-cell disease. As the mortality and morbidity rates are worse for malaria than sickle-cell disease, the sickle-cell trait can be seen as being "good" as a natural resistance to the more "bad" disease of malaria. Also since there are several variations of the sickle-cell gene (different mutations cause the same or very similar trait to be expressed) being found at different levels around the world, it has been taken as evidence of an evolutionary process that is occurring in humans (ie God would not create different mutations for the same trait had God introduced the genetic condition when first creating humans).

God created Man "Perfect" and then genetic abnormalities crept into the equation only after the Fall of Man, when Mankind became tainted with Sin. Therefore, it's not God being Mean/Indifferent or Fallible. The Universe Itself was affected by Mankind's Sin.

[JediJohnnie]

Hey Potluck,lemme know if the science guy trys to prove Jesus didnt exist and why!!

I need a good laugh every now and then!!

Yeah, I have to admit it's a real joke when some people want to act like Jesus didn't exist. Regardless what you believe in, even the most antagonist historian worth his salt will admit to a historical Jesus.

[minioncookies]

Yes i do believe in evolution because animals do change over time that is evolution at its finest

[hitch0403]

New International Version
Therefore, just as sin entered the world through one man, and death through sin, and in this way death came to all people, because all sinned--Romans 5:12

God also told Adam,"cursed is the ground on your account after they sinned.Plus till this day man continues to pollute the earth still.

Creative day?Gods day?Mans day?All have different meanings.

We know our day is 24 hrs.Gods day is 1000 of our yrs.The creative day had to be pretty long.For the illuminaries to have reached the earth light yrs away in itself proves that.

Also Re if Jesus existed.For someone to have changed time i would think left a pretty strong impression of existing!

[hitch0403]

What i am going to speak about probably doesnt belong in this topic but i dont wanna create a new one either.Please feel free to comment.

One of our 1st cousins sadly passed away last wk at the age of 72.The funeral mass was at a catholic church.The priest brought up this scripture in Psalms 90:10

New International Version
Our days may come to seventy years, or eighty, if our strength endures; yet the best of them are but trouble and sorrow, for they quickly pass, and we fly away.

Then after he brings it up he tells us some live longer than others and after they have fulfilled their earthly rein God calls them.

OH!!So God created man to die eh?Good thing A&E sinned otherwise they would have lived forever....LOL!!

Then the priest tries to show how Jesus wept right before he resurrected Lazarus.So if he was in heavenly bliss why would he even be crying?LOL!!

NONSENSE!!The fact that Jesus said there would be a resurrection during his 1000 yr rein of righteous and unrighteous shows that man DOESNT have an immortal soul and backs up Eccl 9:5

New International Version
For the living know that they will die, but the dead know nothing; they have no further reward, and even their name is forgotten.

That scripture backs up Adam going back to dust!!Dust isnt immortal.Jesus said Lazarus was asleep.I need to awaken him.

Its EZ to see why many are turned off about religeon.Understanding bible truths exposes that will exist as long as satan has been referred to as god of this system...backed up when he offered Jesus all the kingdoms of the world for an act of worship.Jesus told him to go away.It is Jehovah who is God almighty and deserves that only.See Rev 4:11 as well!

[JediJohnnie]

New International Version
Therefore, just as sin entered the world through one man, and death through sin, and in this way death came to all people, because all sinned--Romans 5:12

God also told Adam,"cursed is the ground on your account after they sinned.Plus till this day man continues to pollute the earth still.

Creative day?Gods day?Mans day?All have different meanings.

We know our day is 24 hrs.Gods day is 1000 of our yrs.The creative day had to be pretty long.For the illuminaries to have reached the earth light yrs away in itself proves that.

Also Re if Jesus existed.For someone to have changed time i would think left a pretty strong impression of existing!

God exists outside of time. Time has no meaning for Him because He is omnipotent.

[alaskakaren]

I believe God created the heavens and the earth. Life is so beautiful and precious and I'm thankful for all my blessings...