Coincidence or answered prayer?

[Drutts0643]

Ironically, you're right that Satan was cast out before Jesus made that pronouncement. Jesus was speaking of Satan no longer being able to accuse.

However the point still stands that Satan was cast out loooong before 1914. You are blindly following a false prophet in Charles Taze Russel.

So lets see,you say the devil was cast out of heaven over 2000 yrs ago.

Jesus saying this generation will not pass away till all these things occur plus the devilknowing he has a short period of time doesnt seem to line up with your theory.

To all others reading this,go to JW.org and put in 1914 to be convinced .I am not discussing this with JJ to convince him.Hes an apostate and an enemy.But counter-punching him helps others to gain insight.

[JediJohnnie]

Ironically, you're right that Satan was cast out before Jesus made that pronouncement. Jesus was speaking of Satan no longer being able to accuse.

However the point still stands that Satan was cast out loooong before 1914. You are blindly following a false prophet in Charles Taze Russel.

So lets see,you say the devil was cast out of heaven over 2000 yrs ago.

Jesus saying this generation will not pass away till all these things occur plus the devilknowing he has a short period of time doesnt seem to line up with your theory.

To all others reading this,go to JW.org and put in 1914 to be convinced .I am not discussing this with JJ to convince him.Hes an apostate and an enemy.But counter-punching him helps others to gain insight.

Again, the scripture cannot be any clearer. Jesus says 'This generation'.

Jesus said 'This Generation'


Jesus said 'THIS GENERATION'

Not 1914's generation, the generation of the Apostles.

Jesus was prophesying that the Apostles would live to see the Kingdom preached on the earth amid great tribulations.

Now granted, the prophesy means that the End Times began, but they began when Jesus made the prophesy , not nearly 2000 years later, when Russel tried to dupe people as an end times prognosticator.

[Drutts0643]

https://www.jw.org/en/publications/books/bible-teach/1914-significant-year-bible-prophecy/#?insight[search_id]=4f051b0c-192e-4dc8-8513-c0f90e6173a4&insight[search_

Not many will get anything out of this.Especially to day,9/11 where Satan is using nationalism to blind many.

Hopefully 1 does.

[JediJohnnie]

People mourning over the biggest loss of life on American soil, and he says 'Satan is using nationalism to blind many.'  What a piece of work.

[Drutts0643]

People mourning over the biggest loss of life on American soil, and he says 'Satan is using nationalism to blind many.'  What a piece of work.

Nothing wrong with mourning,but if u think nationalism ISNT a tool of the devils...ho hum!!

Maybe they''ll be an american flag for you to worship in heaven.LOL!....or hell <snicker>Hopefully its made from asbestos.Then u can sue for...oh wait youll be dead....or wait...u say death is life....Now im confused...LOL!

We only support what bible says to do at right time.....we will all be judged when it really counts....

“Be in Subjection”—to Whom?

“Continue reminding them to be in subjection and be obedient to governments and authorities as rulers, to be ready for every good work.”—Titus 3:1.

Banned me repeatedly?Ive only been here a short while.

I wish we had a penny for every scripture that u refuted that made u wish u were an atheist.....or ru really that ignorant?

[JediJohnnie]

People mourning over the biggest loss of life on American soil, and he says 'Satan is using nationalism to blind many.'  What a piece of work.

Nothing wrong with mourning,but if u think nationalism ISNT a tool of the devils...ho hum!!

Maybe they''ll be an american flag for you to worship in heaven.LOL!....or hell <snicker>Hopefully its made from asbestos.Then u can sue for...oh wait youll be dead....or wait...u say death is life....Now im confused...LOL!

Funny how you're appealing to an 'American Court' for your right to post on a forum that banned you repeatedly. Isn't that appealing to the Devil by your own deranged admission?

[JediJohnnie]

People mourning over the biggest loss of life on American soil, and he says 'Satan is using nationalism to blind many.'  What a piece of work.

Nothing wrong with mourning,but if u think nationalism ISNT a tool of the devils...ho hum!!

Maybe they''ll be an american flag for you to worship in heaven.LOL!....or hell <snicker>Hopefully its made from asbestos.Then u can sue for...oh wait youll be dead....or wait...u say death is life....Now im confused...LOL!

We only support what bible says to do at right time.....we will all be judged when it really counts....

“Be in Subjection”—to Whom?

“Continue reminding them to be in subjection and be obedient to governments and authorities as rulers, to be ready for every good work.”—Titus 3:1.

Banned me repeatedly?Ive only been here a short while.

I wish we had a penny for every scripture that u refuted that made u wish u were an atheist.....or ru really that ignorant?

Listen, I enjoy debating people on their beliefs. I love witnessing. You pose zero challenge to me whatsoever. Every scripture verse you've twisted and distorted, I've been able to explain with cold rational accuracy.

If you really want to do your faith proud, instead of dropping Watchtower tracts all over the forum, do a little homework and come up with some stronger arguments.


But, then Charles Taze Russel had to admit in court under oath that he couldn't read Greek, so the Apple as they say, doesn't fall far from the tree....

[JediJohnnie]

For example, try to reconcile this verse with the Watchtower's belief that Jesus returned 'invisibly' in 1874,

Luke 17:23-24

People will tell you, ‘Look, there is the Son of Man,’ or ‘Here he is,’ but don’t go out and follow them.  For as the lightning flashes and lights up the sky from one end to the other, so it will be on the day when the Son of Man comes.

Jesus clearly warned us that people would be doing EXACTLY what the Watchtower is doing. So He tells us 'Don't believe them. When I return, it'll be so apparent, it'll be as if lightening lit up the whole sky.'

[legslabella]

People mourning over the biggest loss of life on American soil, and he says 'Satan is using nationalism to blind many.'  What a piece of work.

Nothing wrong with mourning,but if u think nationalism ISNT a tool of the devils...ho hum!!

Maybe they''ll be an american flag for you to worship in heaven.LOL!....or hell <snicker>Hopefully its made from asbestos.Then u can sue for...oh wait youll be dead....or wait...u say death is life....Now im confused...LOL!

We only support what bible says to do at right time.....we will all be judged when it really counts....

“Be in Subjection”—to Whom?

“Continue reminding them to be in subjection and be obedient to governments and authorities as rulers, to be ready for every good work.”—Titus 3:1.

Banned me repeatedly?Ive only been here a short while.

I wish we had a penny for every scripture that u refuted that made u wish u were an atheist.....or ru really that ignorant?

Listen, I enjoy debating people on their beliefs. I love witnessing. You pose zero challenge to me whatsoever. Every scripture verse you've twisted and distorted, I've been able to explain with cold rational accuracy.

If you really want to do your faith proud, instead of dropping Watchtower tracts all over the forum, do a little homework and come up with some stronger arguments.


But, then Charles Taze Russel had to admit in court under oath that he couldn't read Greek, so the Apple as they say, doesn't fall far from the tree....

You said it precisely.You enjoy debating.This isnt about US!!!Its about the love Jehovah and Jesus gave to the doomed human race and how Satan has taken the name of God and smeared it.Eventually the name of Jehovah will be vindicated as the TRUE God and only life in this world and universe if we obey his laws and accept him as GOD.

Go read again Rev 4:11

Dont get caught up in another of hitches supporters either.Instead heed what you just read.

[JediJohnnie]

People mourning over the biggest loss of life on American soil, and he says 'Satan is using nationalism to blind many.'  What a piece of work.

Nothing wrong with mourning,but if u think nationalism ISNT a tool of the devils...ho hum!!

Maybe they''ll be an american flag for you to worship in heaven.LOL!....or hell <snicker>Hopefully its made from asbestos.Then u can sue for...oh wait youll be dead....or wait...u say death is life....Now im confused...LOL!

We only support what bible says to do at right time.....we will all be judged when it really counts....

“Be in Subjection”—to Whom?

“Continue reminding them to be in subjection and be obedient to governments and authorities as rulers, to be ready for every good work.”—Titus 3:1.

Banned me repeatedly?Ive only been here a short while.

I wish we had a penny for every scripture that u refuted that made u wish u were an atheist.....or ru really that ignorant?

Listen, I enjoy debating people on their beliefs. I love witnessing. You pose zero challenge to me whatsoever. Every scripture verse you've twisted and distorted, I've been able to explain with cold rational accuracy.

If you really want to do your faith proud, instead of dropping Watchtower tracts all over the forum, do a little homework and come up with some stronger arguments.


But, then Charles Taze Russel had to admit in court under oath that he couldn't read Greek, so the Apple as they say, doesn't fall far from the tree....

You said it precisely.You enjoy debating.This isnt about US!!!Its about the love Jehovah and Jesus gave to the doomed human race and how Satan has taken the name of God and smeared it.Eventually the name of Jehovah will be vindicated as the TRUE God and only life in this world and universe if we obey his laws and accept him as GOD.

Go read again Rev 4:11

You're right, hitch. It's not about us. It's about counteracting poisonous doctrine that leads people astray, jeopardising their eternal existence with Christ.

Now read Luke 17:23-24 instead of changing the subject and tell me why I should believe the Watchtower over the words of Jesus Christ Himself.

And it better be a darn compelling argument for me to change my mind, I'll tell you that! 

[Drutts0643]

You still have to make sure you threaten me or JW.org.

But being this post was one of your kinder ways i will put the link up for u to read.My gut says you will refute it and ill make a deal with you.....either way dont let me know.

https://www.jw.org/en/publications/books/jesus/ministry-east-of-the-jordan/son-of-man-revealed/

[JediJohnnie]

You still have to make sure you threaten me or JW.org.

But being this post was one of your kinder ways i will put the link up for u to read.My gut says you will refute it and ill make a deal with you.....either way dont let me know.

https://www.jw.org/en/publications/books/jesus/ministry-east-of-the-jordan/son-of-man-revealed/

This tract does literally nothing to challenge the direct interpretation from Scripture, only to do some 'minor' misdirection by saying 'Well, Jesus was telling His Disciples to 'pay attention' to God's Will.'

Well, duh.

Where's the support for this 'Invisible' return? Jesus says quite clearly you'll know when He comes back. Here's another verse ,

Acts 1:9-11

  After saying this, he was taken up into a cloud while they were watching, and they could no longer see him.  As they strained to see him rising into heaven, two white-robed men suddenly stood among them.  “Men of Galilee,” they said, “why are you standing here staring into heaven? Jesus has been taken from you into heaven, but someday he will return from heaven in the same way you saw him go!”


Jesus will not be returning in secret. He will return in the same way He left, for all to see.


But, I understand why you don't want me to let you know. The Watchtower instructs all their followers to have blind obedience to them and to refuse any kind of material from non JWs, for fear they might get loose from their JW brainwashing.

Christians like myself, on the other hand, have no fear of looking at the opposing material in order to decide if it's wheat or chaff.

 

[Drutts0643]

You still have to make sure you threaten me or JW.org.

But being this post was one of your kinder ways i will put the link up for u to read.My gut says you will refute it and ill make a deal with you.....either way dont let me know.

https://www.jw.org/en/publications/books/jesus/ministry-east-of-the-jordan/son-of-man-revealed/

This tract does literally nothing to challenge the direct interpretation from Scripture, only to do some 'minor' misdirection by saying 'Well, Jesus was telling His Disciples to 'pay attention' to God's Will.'

Well, duh.

Where's the support for this 'Invisible' return? Jesus says quite clearly you'll know when He comes back. Here's another verse ,

Acts 1:9-11

  After saying this, he was taken up into a cloud while they were watching, and they could no longer see him.  As they strained to see him rising into heaven, two white-robed men suddenly stood among them.  “Men of Galilee,” they said, “why are you standing here staring into heaven? Jesus has been taken from you into heaven, but someday he will return from heaven in the same way you saw him go!”


Jesus will not be returning in secret. He will return in the same way He left, for all to see.


But, I understand why you don't want me to let you know. The Watchtower instructs all their followers to have blind obedience to them and to refuse any kind of material from non JWs, for fear they might get loose from their JW brainwashing.

Christians like myself, on the other hand, have no fear of looking at the opposing material in order to decide if it's wheat or chaff.

 

I wouldnt be telling you something you already didnt know RE 1914 and all the events.And im sure u may have even gone to JW.org and read about it.What more could i add to it?

RU aware of whats going on in Russia with JWs?

[santa7]

There are no coincidences I believe.  Answered prayer.  I do believe in prayer even though I don't always get what I want.

[Drutts0643]

How does 1 pray to a nameless god,NOT care what his will is and only pay mind to him when they are in need?And think they will be heard?

Sfreeman might lose his house and Paints gets bread pans.Pretty weird god id say.