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JediJohnnie

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Re: Abortion Ban
« Reply #150 on: June 29, 2020, 04:19:33 pm »
I would never have an abortion but I don't think I have the right to impose my beliefs on someone else.

If abortion is murdering a human life- is that not worth imposing your beliefs on someone else?

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Re: Abortion Ban
« Reply #151 on: June 30, 2020, 07:41:23 am »
If we're going to be technical about it, it's not murder if its legal.
"Let me ask you something. If the rule you followed brought you to this, of what use was the rule?"

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Re: Abortion Ban
« Reply #152 on: June 30, 2020, 07:54:52 am »
If we're going to be technical about it, it's not murder if its legal.
Math 15:9 9 It is in vain that they keep worshipping me, for they teach commands of men as doctrines.

Jesus speaking.

When mans laws compromised Gods,Peter said ,"we must obey God as ruler."
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Re: Abortion Ban
« Reply #153 on: June 30, 2020, 01:28:09 pm »
If we're going to be technical about it, it's not murder if its legal.
Untrue

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Re: Abortion Ban
« Reply #154 on: July 08, 2020, 06:59:06 am »
Murder is illegal, abortion isn't but if you want to disregard the legal aspect of it, go right ahead.
"Let me ask you something. If the rule you followed brought you to this, of what use was the rule?"

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Re: Abortion Ban
« Reply #155 on: July 08, 2020, 07:24:17 am »
Murder is illegal, abortion isn't but if you want to disregard the legal aspect of it, go right ahead.
How many innocent people  have been convicted of a crime in mans legal system?


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Re: Abortion Ban
« Reply #156 on: July 08, 2020, 07:34:00 am »
Murder is illegal, abortion isn't but if you want to disregard the legal aspect of it, go right ahead.


I'm gonna go with Donnamarg323 here. Not all of man's laws are the final authority on right and wrong, but if you want to disregard the moral aspect of it, go right ahead.

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Re: Abortion Ban
« Reply #157 on: July 08, 2020, 07:44:03 am »
Murder is illegal, abortion isn't but if you want to disregard the legal aspect of it, go right ahead.


I'm gonna go with Donnamarg323 here. Not all of man's laws are the final authority on right and wrong, but if you want to disregard the moral aspect of it, go right ahead.
TY UG.

Jeremiah 10:23

I realize it looks as tho Steven could care less what God has to say on the matter.But as we always say,others read this too and may wanna know what God thinks...and HE says its murder in his word.
King James Version
23 O Lord, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.

Psalm 139:16 16 Your eyes even saw me as an embryo;

All its parts were written in your book

Regarding the days when they were formed,

Before any of them existed.
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Re: Abortion Ban
« Reply #158 on: July 08, 2020, 12:49:39 pm »

Life is what is important, abortion is a sin in the eyes of the maker...

Have you ever thought about the children who grow up and murder their parents? So many stories about that in this world and people are uptight about abortion rights.
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Re: Abortion Ban
« Reply #159 on: July 08, 2020, 01:05:42 pm »
Have you ever thought about the children who grow up and murder their parents? So many stories about that in this world and people are uptight about abortion rights.


MILLIONS (and I mean millions) more parents murder their unborn children than do children grow up to murder their parents. BOTH circumstances are tragic. It does not have to be one or the other as the sole source of tragedy.


Just because something (a parent murdered by their child) is reported in the news DOES NOT make it more relevant that the daily tens of thousands of abortions that are NOT reported, but are also "stories about that in this world" as you so put it.


EDIT to include source information on my statistics taken from https://www.worldometers.info/abortions/:


According to WHO, every year in the world there are an estimated 40-50 million abortions. This corresponds to approximately 125,000 abortions per day.
In the USA, where nearly half of pregnancies are unintended and four in 10 of these are terminated by abortion [1] , there are over 3,000 abortions per day. Twenty-two percent of all pregnancies in the USA (excluding miscarriages) end in abortion. References and useful links:


  • [1] Finer LB and Henshaw SK, Disparities in rates of unintended pregnancy in the United States, 1994 and 2001, Perspectives on Sexual and Reproductive Health, 2006, 38(2):9096.
  • [2] Jones RK et al., Abortion in the United States: incidence and access to services, 2005, Perspectives on Sexual and Reproductive Health, 2008, 40(1):616
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Re: Abortion Ban
« Reply #160 on: July 08, 2020, 01:34:50 pm »
I dont even like putting an animal to sleep......even if its a humane thing to do.

<sob> with abortions.

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Re: Abortion Ban
« Reply #161 on: July 08, 2020, 03:43:27 pm »
Have you ever thought about the children who grow up and murder their parents? So many stories about that in this world and people are uptight about abortion rights.

MILLIONS (and I mean millions) more parents murder their unborn children than do children grow up to murder their parents. BOTH circumstances are tragic. It does not have to be one or the other as the sole source of tragedy.


Just because something (a parent murdered by their child) is reported in the news DOES NOT make it more relevant that the daily tens of thousands of abortions that are NOT reported, but are also "stories about that in this world" as you so put it.


EDIT to include source information on my statistics taken from https://www.worldometers.info/abortions/:


According to WHO, every year in the world there are an estimated 40-50 million abortions. This corresponds to approximately 125,000 abortions per day.
In the USA, where nearly half of pregnancies are unintended and four in 10 of these are terminated by abortion [1] , there are over 3,000 abortions per day. Twenty-two percent of all pregnancies in the USA (excluding miscarriages) end in abortion. References and useful links:


  • [1] Finer LB and Henshaw SK, Disparities in rates of unintended pregnancy in the United States, 1994 and 2001, Perspectives on Sexual and Reproductive Health, 2006, 38(2):9096.
  • [2] Jones RK et al., Abortion in the United States: incidence and access to services, 2005, Perspectives on Sexual and Reproductive Health, 2008, 40(1):616

You get an "A" on this post. Looks like you really did your research. You were more than likely an excellent student in school; at least on research papers.  :thumbsup:

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Re: Abortion Ban
« Reply #162 on: July 11, 2020, 10:02:01 am »
I am pro choice too.

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Re: Abortion Ban
« Reply #163 on: July 13, 2020, 08:00:36 pm »
To call abortion murder wouldn't be a strict application of the term. A more broad word to use would be homicide (the act of a human being killing another).
"Let me ask you something. If the rule you followed brought you to this, of what use was the rule?"

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Re: Abortion Ban
« Reply #164 on: July 14, 2020, 03:49:11 am »
Homicide can also mean an accidental killing or a self defense killing. Abortion is rarely ever anything but intentional and premeditated. I believe murder is the more direct and appropriate term here. We can disagree and I fully respect your right to do so.
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