Really Sad

[heypeg]

I think there are so many sad things going on in this country right now.

[beatsdrop]

It's so hard to look at the news lately, moreso than usual.

[countrygirl12]

All of what you state is just as important as abortion. Killing any life makes humans look like crazy uncivialized animals! I don't agree with abortion but I don't like old men big wigs banning women's health care do abolish abortion!

I assume this is suppose to be a slam against President Trump.  Which pretty much makes anything you say invalid.  If you cannot make a statement without slamming the president, that you do not like, when he has NOTHING to do with it, then you can't expect people to take any thing you say seriously.

The fight with abortion has been going on for years.  And the individual states that have some out with really strict policies stating you cannot murder your child -  PRESIDENT Trump had NOTHING to do with it.

And no one is trying to ABOLISH women's health care.   Are you even paying attention to what is going on?  NY has made it legal to MURDER the baby even after birth if the piece of trash that gave birth doesn't want it.  What about the baby's health care?  The BABY is the one who is being denied health care.

[countrygirl12]

I know so many  women who would  want a baby so bad that  she would  put her life in jeopardy to have another  child or  even just one, me included and here  are those who  go have abortions one  after  another. I is so easy to prevent  having babies now.  Planned parenthood  was started so people  could have help preventing babies, then  it seems like all of a sudden  the program was  doing abortions and the taxpayers are paying for them . Didn't mind  the planned parent hood. but I do not  agree with abortions. Am against it 100%.  Keep your legs  crossed, take the pills, use an IUD or make the man wear a condom  or both to make sure.  I know of one young lady whos had like 7 abortions and now that she is married  to a great  young man now and he wants a family. Did not know about the abortions. But  now she is so scarred inside she cannot  have  any.   Serves her  right but  Now they are having major problems because her  not telling him ahead of time.

Honestly, I hope she can't get pregnant again.  She has already murdered 7 previous children she doesn't deserve the opportunity to have any more.

You are right - there are many ways to prevent pregnancy.  With the number one being if you are not married don't have s-x.  It isn't rocket science.

[mrsmere]

It really is a lot going on in the world today.  My nephew don't want to even kill a fly.  He will open the door and let it out. 

[sfreeman8]

I'm totally fine with a woman having a choice over her body.

Your own body fine. But it is not your own body that is murdered.


I also agree with that. There are other birth control methods that are cheaper and do a better job because you're not killing a human being in the process. Another thing I disagree with it the women you state it's their body and they should be able to do anything they want with it....what about the MAN who helped in the process of a pregnancy??? They have no rights. What if that man wanted this unborn child? I believe these women are selfish and somewhat stupid. They are driven by someone radical.

The #MeToo movement also infuriates me to the point of wanting to smack them across their head to see if their brains rattle. They are focused only on certain women. They don't speak for all women. They attack some women and "protect" other women. They are no way fair in their "movement."   I've had it with feminists. I thought their were nuts in the '60s too when Gloria Steinam (spelling) headed up the burn the bra movement. Wonder how many are sagging down to the waist by now.   

[mrisha]

In this country it has always been low because of the people, their thinking, their acts.

[countrygirl12]

In this country it has always been low because of the people, their thinking, their acts.

This makes no sense at all.

[alaskah]

Your comments are contradicting. First you say you don't agree with "it's not your body", implying that it IS your body. Then you say it takes two to make a baby. So then it's NOT actually your body, because you didn't make that baby all by yourself.

The fetus is feeding off the host - the mother. If it can survive at 6 weeks on it's own, then by all means - remove it and let it be it's own being. I'd say DNA is irrelevant, considering it's still not able to survive on it's own.

I can see how you think it's contradicting. But my "it takes two" comment was how people simply blame the woman for getting pregnant. Why are we not also blaming the man?

lol.  Sex education is not the problem.  These stupid women know what causes pregnancy.  I remember a s-x education lass in about the 5th grade and again in the 8th grade.

There are many states that have made it illegal to get an abortion and roe vs wade cannot stop it.  But it really doesn't matter what laws say - It matters what God says.  And these women are going to stand before Him one day.

It's not about simply knowing what causes pregnancy though. That's not the point I was making.

That's the nice thing about America though, at least. Not everyone has to believe in the same deity, or even one at all. If you think that a woman will have to face her judgement day, then that's what will happen in your version of events. Perhaps your deity will choose in favor of the fetus.

How about if we rip your arms and lets off your body.  Because the baby is literally ripped apart.

Early term abortions (prior to 20 weeks) do not involve "ripping apart" the fetus. Depending on how early, it's just a pill, you bleed, and essentially the embryo comes out as what looks like a blood clot. There is another scenario where it's, in a way, "vacuumed out"; the fetus is tiny enough to come out without being "torn apart".

In a late term abortion (after 20 weeks), the woman is induced. It's similar to a natural birth, but usually the baby cannot live on its own, hence the late term abortion, and dies within minutes.

I know of one young lady whos had like 7 abortions and now that she is married  to a great  young man now and he wants a family. Did not know about the abortions. But  now she is so scarred inside she cannot  have  any.   Serves her  right but  Now they are having major problems because her  not telling him ahead of time.

I get surprised when people use abortion so frequently. It's typical that after you've had more than 2, you become infertile. It's an extremely invasive procedure. Why would you not use condoms, an IUD, the pill, etc.? Seven abortions just seems excessive and unnecessary. Everyone knows what happens when you have sex. After the first "oops", why would you not genuinely make an effort to prevent pregnancies? Abortion is not birth control.

[JediJohnnie]

Condoms are cheap and easily accessible, and you don't need a prescription. Rape pregnancies aside, it's not difficult to avoid getting pregnant. It seems like an accountability issue to me. There are consequences when you take risks, in all aspects of life.

I'm fine with a woman having bodily autonomy. I won't argue about the "but it's not your body" thing. Agree to disagree.

For myself, I probably wouldn't get an abortion unless it was medically necessary. But I'm not going to let my PERSONAL decisions effect someone else and their decisions. We need proper sex education in the US, it's been proven to lower abortion rates. Instead, we take away sex education and expect women to "close their legs", even though it takes two to create a baby. Preventative care is necessary to avoid abortions (obviously with the exception of medical issues and rape) - I wish it were less taboo to talk about.

Your comments are contradicting. First you say you don't agree with "it's not your body", implying that it IS your body. Then you say it takes two to make a baby. So then it's NOT actually your body, because you didn't make that baby all by yourself.

The "it's not your body" is referring to the baby being murdered.  That is what people say when women say my body my choice.  The BODY being torn apart is NOT your body. 

How about if we rip your arms and lets off your body.  Because the baby is literally ripped apart.

Yeah, the "It's my body" defense makes no sense. When you have another body inside you that's going to be killed, it's not all about 'your' body anymore, is it?

Another one is "If it's illegal, people will do it anyway." Ok. Let's legalese the wholesale slaughter of the unborn because some people will do it anyway. Does that make sense in any other law? Let's legalese stealing cable. People are gonna do it anyway!

[1imaginarygirl]

Your comments are contradicting. First you say you don't agree with "it's not your body", implying that it IS your body. Then you say it takes two to make a baby. So then it's NOT actually your body, because you didn't make that baby all by yourself.

The fetus is feeding off the host - the mother. If it can survive at 6 weeks on it's own, then by all means - remove it and let it be it's own being. I'd say DNA is irrelevant, considering it's still not able to survive on it's own.

So babies are parasites now?

Your comment still doesn't make sense. A baby can't survive at any point during pregnancy on its own, before or after the 6 week mark. A full term newborn can't survive on its own either. Whether your baby is inside or outside of your body makes no difference. The DNA is relevant. It indicates that it's a different human being. You said it yourself, "the fetus is feeding off the host". It can't be "your body" and "not your body" at the same time.

[countrygirl12]

Your comments are contradicting. First you say you don't agree with "it's not your body", implying that it IS your body. Then you say it takes two to make a baby. So then it's NOT actually your body, because you didn't make that baby all by yourself.

The fetus is feeding off the host - the mother. If it can survive at 6 weeks on it's own, then by all means - remove it and let it be it's own being. I'd say DNA is irrelevant, considering it's still not able to survive on it's own.

I can see how you think it's contradicting. But my "it takes two" comment was how people simply blame the woman for getting pregnant. Why are we not also blaming the man?

lol.  Sex education is not the problem.  These stupid women know what causes pregnancy.  I remember a s-x education lass in about the 5th grade and again in the 8th grade.

There are many states that have made it illegal to get an abortion and roe vs wade cannot stop it.  But it really doesn't matter what laws say - It matters what God says.  And these women are going to stand before Him one day.

It's not about simply knowing what causes pregnancy though. That's not the point I was making.

That's the nice thing about America though, at least. Not everyone has to believe in the same deity, or even one at all. If you think that a woman will have to face her judgement day, then that's what will happen in your version of events. Perhaps your deity will choose in favor of the fetus.

How about if we rip your arms and lets off your body.  Because the baby is literally ripped apart.

Early term abortions (prior to 20 weeks) do not involve "ripping apart" the fetus. Depending on how early, it's just a pill, you bleed, and essentially the embryo comes out as what looks like a blood clot. There is another scenario where it's, in a way, "vacuumed out"; the fetus is tiny enough to come out without being "torn apart".

In a late term abortion (after 20 weeks), the woman is induced. It's similar to a natural birth, but usually the baby cannot live on its own, hence the late term abortion, and dies within minutes.

I know of one young lady whos had like 7 abortions and now that she is married  to a great  young man now and he wants a family. Did not know about the abortions. But  now she is so scarred inside she cannot  have  any.   Serves her  right but  Now they are having major problems because her  not telling him ahead of time.

I get surprised when people use abortion so frequently. It's typical that after you've had more than 2, you become infertile. It's an extremely invasive procedure. Why would you not use condoms, an IUD, the pill, etc.? Seven abortions just seems excessive and unnecessary. Everyone knows what happens when you have sex. After the first "oops", why would you not genuinely make an effort to prevent pregnancies? Abortion is not birth control.

See you contradict yourself here.  In reply to all my comments you are defending the killing of the baby.  You even admit the baby dies within minutes but you still refer to it as a fetus. 

Then the last comment replying to another poster you say abortion should not be used.  smh.  Make up your mind.

[countrygirl12]

Condoms are cheap and easily accessible, and you don't need a prescription. Rape pregnancies aside, it's not difficult to avoid getting pregnant. It seems like an accountability issue to me. There are consequences when you take risks, in all aspects of life.

I'm fine with a woman having bodily autonomy. I won't argue about the "but it's not your body" thing. Agree to disagree.

For myself, I probably wouldn't get an abortion unless it was medically necessary. But I'm not going to let my PERSONAL decisions effect someone else and their decisions. We need proper sex education in the US, it's been proven to lower abortion rates. Instead, we take away sex education and expect women to "close their legs", even though it takes two to create a baby. Preventative care is necessary to avoid abortions (obviously with the exception of medical issues and rape) - I wish it were less taboo to talk about.

Your comments are contradicting. First you say you don't agree with "it's not your body", implying that it IS your body. Then you say it takes two to make a baby. So then it's NOT actually your body, because you didn't make that baby all by yourself.

The "it's not your body" is referring to the baby being murdered.  That is what people say when women say my body my choice.  The BODY being torn apart is NOT your body. 

How about if we rip your arms and lets off your body.  Because the baby is literally ripped apart.

Yeah, the "It's my body" defense makes no sense. When you have another body inside you that's going to be killed, it's not all about 'your' body anymore, is it?

Another one is "If it's illegal, people will do it anyway." Ok. Let's legalese the wholesale slaughter of the unborn because some people will do it anyway. Does that make sense in any other law? Let's legalese stealing cable. People are gonna do it anyway!

And the same person would be outraged if a person kicked a pregnant dog and caused her to lose her puppies.

[countrygirl12]

Your comments are contradicting. First you say you don't agree with "it's not your body", implying that it IS your body. Then you say it takes two to make a baby. So then it's NOT actually your body, because you didn't make that baby all by yourself.

The fetus is feeding off the host - the mother. If it can survive at 6 weeks on it's own, then by all means - remove it and let it be it's own being. I'd say DNA is irrelevant, considering it's still not able to survive on it's own.

So babies are parasites now?

Your comment still doesn't make sense. A baby can't survive at any point during pregnancy on its own, before or after the 6 week mark. A full term newborn can't survive on its own either. Whether your baby is inside or outside of your body makes no difference. The DNA is relevant. It indicates that it's a different human being. You said it yourself, "the fetus is feeding off the host". It can't be "your body" and "not your body" at the same time.

That is good.  I will have to remember that. lol  Guess that just gives people more justification to murder the baby later and later.  Well it needs to take care of itself.  Technically a child can not survive on their own until probably later in their teens.

I had a neighbor that had a baby at 5 months.  It was a fight and she was in the hospital a long time but she is now a teenager and giving her mother gray hair. lol

[ericborn1980]

In this country it has always been low because of the people, their thinking, their acts.

I agree and the rest of the world too.