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stevensm4

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Re: Black Lives Matter
« Reply #15 on: June 07, 2020, 09:30:04 am »
I heard that people are bashing the camera person who shot the scene but did not try to help at all.

They are more interested in the instant fame.  Not sure that this kid was looking for instant fame but I have heard she has received death threats for videoing and not helping.

    I don't know if its about instant fame but I typically see it as a callous disregard for the individual(s) because all they see is a spectacle that's worth recording. So I guess she is being attacked for generally being one of those people. As for the BlackLivesMatter confusion, may changing the name might be helpful so people understand the point. Like BlackLivesMatterToo or something.
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Re: Black Lives Matter
« Reply #16 on: June 08, 2020, 05:34:59 am »
I do agree it should say All Lives Matter, I understand were the slogan comes from, but as an Spanish person I have seen too many cases were we as Spanish are treated very unfairly. Very rarely a White person is treated or killed by police while been arrested, that only happens to blacks and "foreigners".  So even though I do agree "All Lives Matters", "Black Lives" are the ones that are been mistreated the worse.
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Re: Black Lives Matter
« Reply #17 on: June 08, 2020, 06:07:12 am »
I agree with Janesue and Oldbuddy and allow me to say do you think that there are not other folks of different races that have had similar things happen to them.  All this is accomplishing is inciting a race war.  Further and worse giving people who could care less about George Floyd the encouragement to do wrong and worse to people they don't even know - in our area people were throwing rocks and glass bottles at people going down the interstate and that section had to be closed. 

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Re: Black Lives Matter
« Reply #18 on: June 08, 2020, 06:59:22 am »
All I can say is that it is a shame what happened to George Floyd and I hope justice prevails in this case.

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Re: Black Lives Matter
« Reply #19 on: June 08, 2020, 12:02:09 pm »
Funny how everyone race in this country are being killed by cops except for white people. Some of you should look up the statistics instead of focusing on COLOR.  As for BLM, they are a racist group. No getting around it. Remember Tx a few years ago? The 5 cops killed in Houston? Remember the chants by BLM?  What about Officer (ret.) Dorn that was killed last week? His life doesn't seem to matter even though he's black because he was a cop. What about the cops that died over the last few years in ambuses? There was no color in those uniforms.

Defunding the police? Alisyn Camarota (spelling) held an interivew with someone namesd Bender.  Camarota asked her what she should do if her house was broken into in the middle of the night. Who would she call?  The answer was that speaks of priviledge. Huh? That's crazy! Another suggestion was to have BLM patrol the neighborhoods. Another crazy idea!

Solutions don't seem to be part of their plan at all. Think crime is bad? Think of a city like Minneapolis with no police at all. DeBlasio states the same thing about defunding. He hates cops to begin with and putting 35K cops out of a job isn't too smart, especially in a city of over 7 million people and the center of terrorist attacks. Brilliant.

If I sound mad and disgusted, I am. Stupidty is breeding faster than common sense and it's dangerous..

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Re: Black Lives Matter
« Reply #20 on: June 08, 2020, 12:25:37 pm »
I heard that people are bashing the camera person who shot the scene but did not try to help at all.

They are more interested in the instant fame.  Not sure that this kid was looking for instant fame but I have heard she has received death threats for videoing and not helping.

    I don't know if its about instant fame but I typically see it as a callous disregard for the individual(s) because all they see is a spectacle that's worth recording. So I guess she is being attacked for generally being one of those people. As for the BlackLivesMatter confusion, may changing the name might be helpful so people understand the point. Like BlackLivesMatterToo or something.

She was being attacked because people were saying she should have tried to help instead of just standing there filming. Again this is a 17 year old girl.  What was she suppose to do?

As for the black lives matter or black lives matter too both are foolish.  All lives matter and one race having to scream it just seems ignorant. Nobody ever said any one race did not matter.  And FYI there are more white people killed by cops than blacks. But nobody wants to even hear that. I am not going to sit and argue about it. I don't care enough to fight with strangers. Like a woman said at Walmart the other day - there are more important things going on in the world right now.

This reminds me of a woman a little older than me who had a kid who went to the same grade school I did.  She went off in a tirade about how her kid did not have the same opportunities to learn.  Yes she did.  All the kids at the school have the same opportunities.  You take them or you don't.  The school cannot make the kid try nor can they make them learn.  And anyone who falls below a certain income level gets everything for free (paid for my the parents who work) but that is a completely different story.  The point is they all have the same thing.  Right now people are just looking for reasons to fight.  They try their best to trigger someone and when the person finally gets fed up and fires back they start trying to get that person fired from their job (if they can find where they work)  ::)  It is completely ridiculous at what is going on in this country right now.  The sad thing is I don't think things will ever change.  It is over.  The country we knew is gone forever. RIP  :(

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Re: Black Lives Matter
« Reply #21 on: June 08, 2020, 02:48:11 pm »
DUHHHH!!!I think when Jesus said,"my kingdom is" NO part of this world,the USA was included!"

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Re: Black Lives Matter
« Reply #22 on: June 08, 2020, 05:56:35 pm »
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She was being attacked because people were saying she should have tried to help instead of just standing there filming. Again this is a 17 year old girl.  What was she suppose to do?
I was just sayin...

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As for the black lives matter or black lives matter too both are foolish.  All lives matter and one race having to scream it just seems ignorant. Nobody ever said any one race did not matter.  And FYI there are more white people killed by cops than blacks. But nobody wants to even hear that. I am not going to sit and argue about it. I don't care enough to fight with strangers. Like a woman said at Walmart the other day - there are more important things going on in the world right now.
Reasonably, I am aware that statistically white people are killed more often than black people by the police but that clearly doesn't matter, especially when it comes to the perceived invalidation of the collective black self or so I believe it all ultimately comes down to.
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Re: Black Lives Matter
« Reply #23 on: June 08, 2020, 07:51:41 pm »
Those officers need the same thing done to them like they did to that man. >:( >:(
If we lived in an uncivilized society it would probably be that way, but we are not barbarians as much as some people think we are. We are governed by laws for good reason. Those policemen will have their day in court and receive the punishment our system of laws decides for them.

I don't think these cops will be tried lawfully.  At this moment it's only 2nd degree murder,
Those officers need the same thing done to them like they did to that man. >:( >:(
If we lived in an uncivilized society it would probably be that way, but we are not barbarians as much as some people think we are. We are governed by laws for good reason. Those policemen will have their day in court and receive the punishment our system of laws decides for them.

These cops should tried for 1st degree and not 2nd degree.  The world saw what happened, so how can they possibly be tried for 2nd degree.  This wrong on so many levels. 
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Re: Black Lives Matter
« Reply #24 on: June 10, 2020, 10:10:01 am »
it should be corrected to say all lives matter. :heart:

While yes all lives matter, this was an organization of blacks for black equality. It's like saying the NAACP should change its name. It also doesn't help that recently someone in Oregon was screaming all lives matter and then proceeded to try to pull a gun on everyone. Just because it's not inclusive in it's name doesn't mean it's threatening the rights of people who aren't black, just like how pride marches aren't trying to discriminate straight people. Just something to think about.

The organization Black Lives Matter is a Marxist organization that has an agenda -- They were formed in 2013 & were funded 33 million dollars by the Open Society Foundation during the Ferguson protests when Obama was President - these were the people chanting "Pigs in a Blanket, Fry like Bacon".  In fact Black Lives Matter DC posted on a Tweet a few days ago that is readily available to read:  "Black Lives Matter means Defunding the Police"   Know your history, Defund the Police movement was literally started by Karl Marx. The next steps are military and churches.

The concept of Black Lives Matter & the organization of the same name, are not necessarily on the same page. One appears to be hijacked.

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Re: Black Lives Matter
« Reply #25 on: June 10, 2020, 10:21:39 am »
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She was being attacked because people were saying she should have tried to help instead of just standing there filming. Again this is a 17 year old girl.  What was she suppose to do?
I was just sayin...

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As for the black lives matter or black lives matter too both are foolish.  All lives matter and one race having to scream it just seems ignorant. Nobody ever said any one race did not matter.  And FYI there are more white people killed by cops than blacks. But nobody wants to even hear that. I am not going to sit and argue about it. I don't care enough to fight with strangers. Like a woman said at Walmart the other day - there are more important things going on in the world right now.
Reasonably, I am aware that statistically white people are killed more often than black people by the police but that clearly doesn't matter, especially when it comes to the perceived invalidation of the collective black self or so I believe it all ultimately comes down to.

It clearly does matter. All your double talk makes no sense. You make it sound like it is more tragic if a black person dies at the hands of police than if a white person.  Attitudes like that just further divide. A person dying at the hands of the police should be rare. BUT if you point a gun at a cop you pretty much should know what the outcome will be.  And that has nothing to do with skin color.  It has to do with stupidity.

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Re: Black Lives Matter
« Reply #26 on: June 10, 2020, 10:26:48 am »
Those officers need the same thing done to them like they did to that man. >:( >:(
If we lived in an uncivilized society it would probably be that way, but we are not barbarians as much as some people think we are. We are governed by laws for good reason. Those policemen will have their day in court and receive the punishment our system of laws decides for them.

I don't think these cops will be tried lawfully.  At this moment it's only 2nd degree murder,
Those officers need the same thing done to them like they did to that man. >:( >:(
If we lived in an uncivilized society it would probably be that way, but we are not barbarians as much as some people think we are. We are governed by laws for good reason. Those policemen will have their day in court and receive the punishment our system of laws decides for them.

These cops should tried for 1st degree and not 2nd degree.  The world saw what happened, so how can they possibly be tried for 2nd degree.  This wrong on so many levels. 

What part of it is NOT 1st degree murder do you not understand.  Google is your friend.  In order for it to be 1st degree murder it would need to be per-meditated. It was not.  And the "world" saw "PART" of what happened. 

The really sad part is they have already said he is looking at a min of 40 years which means he likely will never get out of jail. People still screaming that is not enough. ::)  I would think spending your entire life in prison would be pretty harsh.  But then again, we just turned lose harden criminals so they did not get the "virus" and everybody was all for that. smh

Not only that but his wife has left him.  I have not heard any mention of him having kids or if his parents are still alive.  I would think not only spending the rest of your life in jail but having the world hate you and having no family so you are basically alone (except for his lawyer - and he is already on his 2nd one) sounds like his life is pretty bad right now.

You also need to remember if they over charge him (ie -1st degree murder) he will most likely walk away a free man.
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Re: Black Lives Matter
« Reply #27 on: June 10, 2020, 11:10:13 am »
It clearly does matter. All your double talk makes no sense. You make it sound like it is more tragic if a black person dies at the hands of police than if a white person.  Attitudes like that just further divide. A person dying at the hands of the police should be rare. BUT if you point a gun at a cop you pretty much should know what the outcome will be.  And that has nothing to do with skin color.  It has to do with stupidity.
It doesn't make sense to you. From the PERSPECTIVE of those that advocate this movement, such statistical information doesn't matter and such a point a of view leads to everything you said but I am by no means espousing their stupidity.
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Re: Black Lives Matter
« Reply #28 on: June 10, 2020, 11:35:36 am »
It clearly does matter. All your double talk makes no sense. You make it sound like it is more tragic if a black person dies at the hands of police than if a white person.  Attitudes like that just further divide. A person dying at the hands of the police should be rare. BUT if you point a gun at a cop you pretty much should know what the outcome will be.  And that has nothing to do with skin color.  It has to do with stupidity.
It doesn't make sense to you. From the PERSPECTIVE of those that advocate this movement, such statistical information doesn't matter and such a point a of view leads to everything you said but I am by no means espousing their stupidity.

So you are agreeing with what I am saying? You are hard to understand.  The color of skin should never come in to play.  It should be "cop kills unarmed" person.  No mention of skin color.  Because skin color is irrelevant. And at this point it seems we have not only a race war between black and white but another war between cops and citizens.  There have been a number of cops kill unarmed men.  And several were WHITE but there is not much mention of that.  And then also people killing cops just because they are cops.  This has got to stop.

I read something the other day talking about the number of people killed just yesterday.  The numbers are astronomical.  People, all good honest people, should be outraged at the number of murders and crime.  No matter what color of skin the person has that is the victim.  And if color of skin is what matters as to how upset you are then you are part of the problem. :(

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Re: Black Lives Matter
« Reply #29 on: June 10, 2020, 01:02:26 pm »
I noticed it was said here the military and religeon will also be defunded.I dont know RE the military,but the bible speaks of Babylon The Great going down in the book of Revelation.TO get out of her if we dont wanna receive her judgement.

1000s of yrs ago Babylon existed as a world power.It hasnt existed for a long time,so the apostle John was referring to something else.

Many false doctrines started in Babylon that Jehovah wasnt too happy about.Just like today.Soon governments will turn on religeon and devour her.The handwriting has been on the wall and it will only get worse.We are warned by God to not be a part of her.

Many were warned in Noahs day and Jesus compared Noahs day to ours.IOW many didnt listen yet were warned.

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