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cateyes1

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Chauvin found GUILTY
« on: April 20, 2021, 02:44:11 pm »
What are your thoughts on him being found guilty on all counts?

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Re: Chauvin found GUILTY
« Reply #1 on: April 20, 2021, 03:20:08 pm »
It was the right verdict, and hopefully the gatherings will remain peaceful. I am not optimistic, but still hopeful.


Maxine Waters did not help matters at all and if any violence breaks out tonight, she should be given the same treatment in the press as did Donald Trump on January 6th.


If an appeal is later successful based on her stupidity and obvious bias (unlikely, but still possible), she should be 100% blameworthy for any reactionary violence that occurs at that time as well.

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Re: Chauvin found GUILTY
« Reply #2 on: April 20, 2021, 04:33:32 pm »
Glad he was found guilty. Think he knew what would happen. No riots tonight hopefully.

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Re: Chauvin found GUILTY
« Reply #3 on: April 20, 2021, 05:31:45 pm »
Im amazed the trial was over so quickly, I figured the defense would try to present a stronger case and the verdict was quick...not too surprised I suppose, I just wonder about the aftermath

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Re: Chauvin found GUILTY
« Reply #4 on: April 20, 2021, 05:34:23 pm »
I'm not surprised.

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Re: Chauvin found GUILTY
« Reply #5 on: April 20, 2021, 06:47:26 pm »
He deserved to be found guilty because he is guilty of killing an innocent man.  If he was found innocent, phew it would be CHAOS right now, and the world know it too.
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Re: Chauvin found GUILTY
« Reply #6 on: April 20, 2021, 06:49:14 pm »
It was the right verdict, and hopefully the gatherings will remain peaceful. I am not optimistic, but still hopeful.


Maxine Waters did not help matters at all and if any violence breaks out tonight, she should be given the same treatment in the press as did Donald Trump on January 6th.


If an appeal is later successful based on her stupidity and obvious bias (unlikely, but still possible), she should be 100% blameworthy for any reactionary violence that occurs at that time as well.


The judge spoke on Maxine as well. That she shouldn't be talking because it could've been a retrial.
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Re: Chauvin found GUILTY
« Reply #7 on: April 20, 2021, 07:21:15 pm »
Happy the pig lost his murderous case.

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Re: Chauvin found GUILTY
« Reply #8 on: April 20, 2021, 07:34:35 pm »
I got to say I'm a little surprised and his conviction is a small step forward but I guess its the pessimism in me that doesn't expect a real change down the road.
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Re: Chauvin found GUILTY
« Reply #9 on: April 21, 2021, 05:27:13 am »
Seriously, how could he not be found guilty?  Thankfully there were no riots last night.  I was watching his expression as the verdict was read, he showed no emotion I think he knew what the verdict was going to be.
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Re: Chauvin found GUILTY
« Reply #10 on: April 21, 2021, 10:25:04 pm »
I would have judged him not guilty if I had been on the jury. I saw the whole video of his arrest from the beginning and I think they had no other recourse in order to detain Floyd since he so violently resisted arrest and was a giant of a man physically.

The picture they show of Chauvin kneeling while detaining Floyd was carefully crafted in order to make him look arrogant and smug. I don't know how he could not be defensive with all the people shouting at him while he was making the arrest. Was he supposed to be begging for forgiveness for trying to detain a criminal while people were heckling him? He wouldn't have had to hold him down so long if the ambulance had come in a timely fashion.

Floyd asked to be put on the ground because he didn't want to get into the police car. So the way the officer pinned him seemed defensible to me since he could have easily gotten away otherwise. It was not a choke hold. The knee-to-neck restraint is allowable in Minnesota. It is a procedure that has been used before when you have few ways to keep a person from evading capture. I would not consider it deadly force.

As for him saying he could not breathe; he started saying that when they first started to put him in the police car and then kept saying it repeatedly. They tried to accommodate him at every turn and were completely respectful of him. They did not present an autopsy report to the jury to review. The report stated he did not die of asphyxiation. He had fentanyl, cannabinoids and methamphetamine in his system at the time of his death and the cause of death was heart failure. The report revealed no physical findings that supported a diagnosis of traumatic asphyxia or strangulation

Remember; this is my opinion and I feel safe voicing my opinion on this site. I feel that many of these cases are specifically race-baiting tactics used to separate the races and to belittle police. I welcome opposing opinions, of course, but would not like to be bashed for my well-reasoned opinion.

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Re: Chauvin found GUILTY
« Reply #11 on: April 22, 2021, 04:18:06 am »
linderlizzie You brought up some very interesting opinions, yes there are and always will be two sides to each story.  I don’t agree with you 100%, but I respect you opinions and would never bash you for your thinking, like others here have been bashed and ridiculed by members for their beliefs.  We all think different on every topic and wouldn’t it be boring  if we all thought alike?
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Re: Chauvin found GUILTY
« Reply #12 on: April 22, 2021, 06:05:58 am »
linderlizzie your opinion is yours but you are wrong, dead wrong.  His supervisor stated that the hold was not apart of their training.  Steve Wonder could see that, but your opinions is yours.

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Re: Chauvin found GUILTY
« Reply #13 on: April 22, 2021, 07:25:58 am »
He deserved to be found guilty because he is guilty of killing an innocent man.  If he was found innocent, phew it would be CHAOS right now, and the world know it too.

Floyd wasn't an innocent man. He tried to pass a $20 counterfeit bill. This is why the police were called in the first place. He was high on fentanyl and either cocaine or heroin. He also had heart disease and some say asthma.  He was in the police car when he started saying he couldn't breathe. That's why they got him out of the car.

As for finding him guilty, the prosecution went overboard with the charges. You can only murder someone once. Plus the fact that murder is the INTENTIONAL KILLING of another person. I don't think it was intentional but he was convicted of manslaughter, which is the correct verdict. 

Waters is nothing more than an instigator. She instigates and agitates any situation that she doesn't like. Look how she instigated during the Trump administration, telling her supporters to get in "their" face (meaning any Republican or anyone who worked for the administration or supported any Republican).  This time she really went out of her way flying from CA to MO just to agitate with her armed guards. Hypocrisy? Yep. Same with Biden and Harris. Harris spoke, not because she supported the verdict, but because she wanted to push the bill she has written in Congress. Biden spoke out because he's not exactly honest. He has flipped (switched sides/arguments/opinions) on so many items when he was in Congress and he's being very racial. 

Let's not forget Pelosi who has relegated Floyd to a martyr in her speech. So, evidently she no longer believes in law and order like the rest of her cohorts. She has power but she wants more. She wants the president's spot. I can't wait for 2022 when most of the House is up for re-election.
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Re: Chauvin found GUILTY
« Reply #14 on: April 22, 2021, 11:03:45 am »
linderlizzie your opinion is yours but you are wrong, dead wrong.  His supervisor stated that the hold was not apart of their training.  Steve Wonder could see that, but your opinions is yours.

How would you suggest detaining a man who is 6'4" or 6'7" who was heavy set, muscular, on many drugs, and was resisting arrest while hundreds of people are screaming at you to stop? I'm just curious. Seriously.

I just think it's easy to say something was done wrong when you are merely a spectator. And I did not say that the hold was okayed by the police department. I don't know if they're telling the truth about that or not, but it is legal in Minnesota which is what I stated in my opinion.

It was also just an opinion that I made on the basis of considering what a person should/could/would do in that same dire situation. That doesn't necessarily make my opinion wrong, just not like yours.  :icon_rr:

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