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Obama's supposed to be for the middle class, unlike Romney who supposedly favors the rich. But he is really just a hypocrite. I saw one of his ads while I was doing a survey, where he accuses Romney of wanting to raise taxes on middle class households by $2000. Really it is Obama who has already done that (actually more than $2000) with Obamacare! He can't fall back on the excuse that the healthcare taxes are fines, since the Supreme Court has ruled that it is indeed a new tax, which falls squarely on the shoulders of the middle class, since the rich can afford the best private insurance, and certainly won't need to pay any fines or taxes. I know Romney lies as much as Obama, you can't believe a word of what most politicians say, and all the presidents are just puppets anyway, but unfortunately for our country there are too many sheeple that just blindly follow the media and still believe Obama's their savior. (Although the first time around Obama did tell the truth about a lot of his openly communist plans for the country, and people still voted for him! Americans today obviously don't care about freedom any more).
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If you think for one second Romney would do better than Obama then ypu get what ypu deserve. Obama is for the Middle class more than Romney is, so I rather have Obama than the rich, rich Romney making his friends and family richer.
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Obama's supposed to be for the middle class, unlike Romney who supposedly favors the rich. But he is really just a hypocrite. I saw one of his ads while I was doing a survey, where he accuses Romney of wanting to raise taxes on middle class households by $2000. Really it is Obama who has already done that (actually more than $2000) with Obamacare! He can't fall back on the excuse that the healthcare taxes are fines, since the Supreme Court has ruled that it is indeed a new tax, which falls squarely on the shoulders of the middle class, since the rich can afford the best private insurance, and certainly won't need to pay any fines or taxes. I know Romney lies as much as Obama, you can't believe a word of what most politicians say, and all the presidents are just puppets anyway, but unfortunately for our country there are too many sheeple that just blindly follow the media and still believe Obama's their savior. (Although the first time around Obama did tell the truth about a lot of his openly communist plans for the country, and people still voted for him! Americans today obviously don't care about freedom any more).
I agree, those people in England and Canada have no freedoms because of government healthcare. Go ask them how miserable there lives are because of it. FREEDOM!
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I don't think Americans don't care about freedom anymore. What I really think is that too many Americans got FAT AND HAPPY and fell into a TRANCE. Too many out there still think everything's just hunky-dorey and need to wake up and FAST. Obama's done more damage to this country in 4 years than all the past Presidents put together. He by-passes Congress on too many occasions. He's buried us and future generations in phenomenal debt. He spends money like there's no tomorrow, and mostly, he GIVES our money away to countries that are sworn enemies. He tries to APPEASE these cretins by BOWING DOWN and KISSING A**. Excuse me, but NO American President should EVER bend over and take it the way HE has! His MAIN interest in the Presidency is flapping his lips in the wind but never making any sense, or worse, blaming somebody else. When it comes to doing the JOB involved in being the President, he has absolutely ZERO interest. Americans do BEST when they TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR THEIR OWN ACTIONS. This President doesn't know what the word "responsibility" means.
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I don't think Americans don't care about freedom anymore. What I really think is that too many Americans got FAT AND HAPPY and fell into a TRANCE. Too many out there still think everything's just hunky-dorey and need to wake up and FAST.
I don't understand where you're going with this. If anything, obesity is more of a problem in republican states, which in turn means insurance companies have to pay more for their inevitable health problems, which means they have to raise their rates for everyone else. Here's an article http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/nation/story/2012/09/19/state-obesity-rates-could-skyrocket-by-2030/57799906/1
Obama's done more damage to this country in 4 years than all the past Presidents put together.
All I have to do is look back less than 10 years to find two huge unfunded wars with tax-cuts that put our economy into this mess.
He by-passes Congress on too many occasions.
I won't say it's right, but the tea party backed republicans have done nothing but gridlock congress. They refuse to compromise which has always been what makes congress work.
He's buried us and future generations in phenomenal debt. He spends money like there's no tomorrow, and mostly,
see above
he GIVES our money away to countries that are sworn enemies.
Please provide just ONE example. Otherwise stop listening to Rush
He tries to APPEASE these cretins by BOWING DOWN and KISSING A**. Excuse me, but NO American President should EVER bend over and take it the way HE has! His MAIN interest in the Presidency is flapping his lips in the wind but never making any sense, or worse, blaming somebody else. When it comes to doing the JOB involved in being the President, he has absolutely ZERO interest. Americans do BEST when they TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR THEIR OWN ACTIONS. This President doesn't know what the word "responsibility" means.
I just.....ugh.
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I'm not carrying the rich on my shoulders, neither do I want to carry the "poor." Romney isn't going to get rid of medicare, just reform it so that there will be something left for us younger people who are paying in far more that the old people ever did, due to lower wages back then. Obama has had 4 years to bring back jobs, yet when it came time to approve the keystone pipeline which would've created a lot of good paying jobs, he denied it to appease the envirnomentalists. As for the rest, it's amazing how people are so adamant about their so-called rights, but they don't mind at all giving up the fundamental rights guaranteed by the Constitution, rights that this country was founded to protect.
By the way, women have the right to do what they want to their own bodies, but not to the helpless little body that's growing inside them.
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I'm not carrying the rich on my shoulders, neither do I want to carry the "poor." Romney isn't going to get rid of medicare, just reform it so that there will be something left for us younger people who are paying in far more that the old people ever did, due to lower wages back then. Obama has had 4 years to bring back jobs, yet when it came time to approve the keystone pipeline which would've created a lot of good paying jobs, he denied it to appease the envirnomentalists. As for the rest, it's amazing how people are so adamant about their so-called rights, but they don't mind at all giving up the fundamental rights guaranteed by the Constitution, rights that this country was founded to protect.
By the way, women have the right to do what they want to their own bodies, but not to the helpless little body that's growing inside them.
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The thing that gets me,is after watching the state of politics for 20 years,the Democrats trot out the same bull every election.
"The Republicans are going to tax the middle class while cutting taxes on the wealthy!
Cut Medicare!
Scrap Social Security!
Outlaw Abortion!"
And in those 20yrs,with 2 republican presidents and several times controling the congress none those scare tactics have come to pass.When are people going to wake up to the same-old garbage from the left?Obama had his shot and made a mess of it.It's time for him to go and give someone else a shot to do what he couldn't.
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Thanks Blacksheepny, Southernhorizones and Jedi. Between the three of you i don't think i need to add anything else you guys seem to have hit it all right on. And you are right Obama is a hypocrite and worse he is someones puppet.
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With Obama and government healthcare...Just wait.....There will be nothing but PA's treating the sick with there what 4 to 5 year education....Fewer tests will be done for diagnosis and more people will DIE! THats OBAMA helping out!!!!!
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I'm glad I don't put my trust in one person to run the country. People in politics lie when they open their mouths. They have to sound convincing so people will vote for them. So far, I have not heard one specific thing that Romney would do as President to turn this country around, just a bunch of promises. That's not good enough for me.
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There all hypocrites but I dont care what you folks think of abortion. All though myself I have never had one, but it if I did want too I dont want a bunch of prolife junkies in my business about what I do with my body. Also Many folks dont like republicans because they are for the rich and they have borrowed from medicare and other things to pay for wars. To me Romney is a liar and no Im not gonna sit here and point out why I feel this way cause I dont have to. If you dont like Obama stop whinning and just dont vote for him simple as that. :angry7:
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There all hypocrites but I dont care what you folks think of abortion. All though myself I have never had one, but it if I did want too I dont want a bunch of prolife junkies in my business about what I do with my body. Also Many folks dont like republicans because they are for the rich and they have borrowed from medicare and other things to pay for wars. To me Romney is a liar and no Im not gonna sit here and point out why I feel this way cause I dont have to. If you dont like Obama stop whinning and just dont vote for him simple as that. :angry7:
Because not voting for Obama means that his policies will not affect me, right? You know whats great about this country? I can complain all I want to, regardless or whether or not I voted.
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There all hypocrites but I dont care what you folks think of abortion. All though myself I have never had one, but it if I did want too I dont want a bunch of prolife junkies in my business about what I do with my body. Also Many folks dont like republicans because they are for the rich and they have borrowed from medicare and other things to pay for wars. To me Romney is a liar and no Im not gonna sit here and point out why I feel this way cause I dont have to. If you dont like Obama stop whinning and just dont vote for him simple as that. :angry7:
Because not voting for Obama means that his policies will not affect me, right? You know whats great about this country? I can complain all I want to, regardless or whether or not I voted.
If you dont vote thats your choice. Im speaking to the ones who think that the only person on the ballot is just 2 people. There is other parties and if you dont like none of them then your choice is neither so dont twist my words like i was speaking to you directly cause you dont vote. I really dont care what others do with they vote I only care about mines.
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There all hypocrites but I dont care what you folks think of abortion. All though myself I have never had one, but it if I did want too I dont want a bunch of prolife junkies in my business about what I do with my body. Also Many folks dont like republicans because they are for the rich and they have borrowed from medicare and other things to pay for wars. To me Romney is a liar and no Im not gonna sit here and point out why I feel this way cause I dont have to. If you dont like Obama stop whinning and just dont vote for him simple as that. :angry7:
I think you missed the whole point on the "outlaw abortion" comment. The Supreme Court has ruled abortion to be a fundamental right protected by the U.S. Constitution. That means the POTUS cannot outlaw abortion, nor does he have the authority to overturn a Supreme Court ruling in order to make such a law. The whole claim that Romney would outlaw abortion is just a scare tactic to get the vote of various woman's rights groups. Of course, there are plenty of pro-life groups that will vote for Romney in hope he will overturn the ruling even though cannot. Helps to explain some of the mess this country is in.
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You should work for what you get and dont expect a hand out, that includes welfare. If your on welfare you should do some sort of community service for it. No more free hand outs. Our country can no longer afford it and I think that is what Romney is saying.
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When there was a republican president most of these programs were being abused and we had the biggest amount of illegals coming over the border also abusing the system, but then you get a democrat president now all of sudden there is this big problem of people on welfare. When Clinton was in office he actually did something about it which is why you have welfare to work programs so no one is getting a free ride except for those ones who have found a way to manipulate the system and the most high numbers are in Republican states. There is time limits for the parents and he also put in place that if you get pregnant and are on welfare you do not get any more cash aid for children if you have more after that child is born. There are not many Mother/Fathers getting the cash aid part its mostly children of low income families. There is many getting food stamps, because even though they may have a job it still doesn't pay enough to support to feed they family and also pay rent, clothing, etc. Just like they keep saying Obama is the one who started this free phone service when it was actually Bush and in some states only, also some states he started the free internet program also. In my opinion Republicans keep doing things that only screw the country up even worse and then Democrats have to come along and clean up the mess. Bush had 8 yrs to fix immigration but him and his buddies didn't wanna lose they nannies or they lawn keepers. He had 8 yrs to keep up with the welfare system. That man screwed up big time but now you think another Repub can fix the problem. Don't think so to me. Sometimes it pays to learn about things before saying things that most are unaware of.
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There all hypocrites but I dont care what you folks think of abortion. All though myself I have never had one, but it if I did want too I dont want a bunch of prolife junkies in my business about what I do with my body. Also Many folks dont like republicans because they are for the rich and they have borrowed from medicare and other things to pay for wars. To me Romney is a liar and no Im not gonna sit here and point out why I feel this way cause I dont have to. If you dont like Obama stop whinning and just dont vote for him simple as that. :angry7:
Because not voting for Obama means that his policies will not affect me, right? You know whats great about this country? I can complain all I want to, regardless or whether or not I voted.
If you dont vote thats your choice. Im speaking to the ones who think that the only person on the ballot is just 2 people. There is other parties and if you dont like none of them then your choice is neither so dont twist my words like i was speaking to you directly cause you dont vote. I really dont care what others do with they vote I only care about mines.
Its is my choice., and yet you tell people to stop whining and just not vote for him. Which leads me back to my post. I didn't twist your words, you didn't state that if you don't like Obama then don't vote for him. You instead you told people to stop whining. Which again leads me back to my response.
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My response remains the same. If all you really read was the whinning part then thats on you. Afterall this post is about Obama being a hypocrite and not about you and how you think who you vote for whether or not you vote.
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I agree with you. Romney has his faults. Obama has shown his lies from day one even before he was president. He didnt get my vote the first time and he sure wont get it this time. In case you are wondering I didnt vote for mccain either. We as americans cannot afford liars. We need someone there for us. I wasted my voice in 2008 I however will not do it again.
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Romney is a BIG LIAR to me, Obama is not, and thats my Opinion.
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My response remains the same. If all you really read was the whinning part then thats on you. Afterall this post is about Obama being a hypocrite and not about you and how you think who you vote for whether or not you vote.
I didn't respond to the rest of your post because I actually agree with it. I don't agree with the thinking that if someone wants to complain they should just not vote for them. It undermines one of our basic freedoms, and ignores the fact that voting isn't the only form of expression this country has.
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ALL Politicians are hypocrites. You just have to do you own reseach and determine who you think will do the best job. Never believe teh media, everything gets twisted.
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Politicians in general are hypocrites. I wouldn't trust Romney anymore than I'd trust Obama. Republicans and Democrats might have stood for something over the previous decades, but now days they both have the same goal in mind. How can we gain more power and keep it. They both want to expand the government in their own ways. To me, that makes them both scary.
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Brum7814 I couldn't have said it any better than you just did
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:wave: we should vote obama out before he ruins our country. he has done absolutely nothing to help unemployment. if we put people back to work it will ioncrease the tax base and with moderate cuts in spending we can have a balanced budget. as far as two unfunded wars. who in america did not think we should not have went after al-quaida and the taliban after 911. i think the whole country was behind the president on that decision. what was we supposed to do be like clinton and do nothing like he did after the first trade center attack. look what happened a secound more devastating attack. as far as iraq with the intelligence presented to the president he beleived he was protecting america from a terrorist threat with weapons of mass destruction. if we do a pre-emptive attack on iran is that not the same thing? so do not blame a president for trying to protect the homeland. i do not think any war we have been involved in was planned and financed. was the civil war financed ?no was spanish-american war financed?no www one or two? how about korea or vietnam? we borrowed money for every war and we survived. obama has one war not two yet his deficeit is higher in four years than all eight of busch. i rest my case
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There all hypocrites but I dont care what you folks think of abortion. All though myself I have never had one, but it if I did want too I dont want a bunch of prolife junkies in my business about what I do with my body. Also Many folks dont like republicans because they are for the rich and they have borrowed from medicare and other things to pay for wars. To me Romney is a liar and no Im not gonna sit here and point out why I feel this way cause I dont have to. If you dont like Obama stop whinning and just dont vote for him simple as that. :angry7:
I agree with you about abortion, but you are wrong about republicans opening up Social Security and Medicare so they could borrow from it and use it to fund other programs. In fact Republicans tried to stop the practice but Democrats blocked the bill in the Senate.
See attached: "In 1999, Republican Congressman Wally Herger sponsored a "lockbox" bill in the House of Representatives. This law would have restricted Congress from using money borrowed from the Social Security program to spend on other government programs. It passed the House by a vote of 416 to 12.
http://thomas.loc.gov/
* Senate rules allow for a "filibuster," in which certain votes can be blocked unless 60 of the Senate's 100 members agree to let it take place.[249] [250] In the Senate, Republicans attempted to bring this bill up for a vote, and it was blocked by a filibuster conducted by Democrats. All 55 Republicans voted to allow the bill to move forward. All but one of 45 Democrats voted to block the bill, and one Democrat did not vote.[251]" (U.S. Senate roll call vote number 170: "On the Motion to Invoke Cloture on H.R.1259." 106th Congress, United States Senate, June 16, 1999. http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/...
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I am tired of hearing about the middle class and China. Is this what this whole election is about? :dontknow:
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I just hope people will get a brain and look at Obamas mentors and his background. He is for socialism, and wants to lead this country in the same direction as the european countries like germany and the UK. ( redistribution of wealth, etc) Why do you think he focused on Obamacare his first year in office to the exclusion of the REAL problem in America..the economy. Obamacare, a government run health program is only the first step to Socialism I don't want to live in a European type of government! If I did I would live in Europe. The mess in the middle East reflect his failed foreign policy. When he took his victory lap over the killing of Osama Obama, he touted that Al Qaeda was brought to it's knees. Not true! Al Qaeda is alive and well. Who do you think killed those 4 Americans in Libya? There had been a terrorist cell in that region, and Ambassador had gotten threats and felt unsafe. The Embassy on several occasions had asked Wahington for extra security and was denied each time.Come on! Even Paris Embassy has a Marine Unit to guard it. Why not have one for the highly volatile region that Libya has always been?...look out people..Be afraid be very afraid.
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So the right foreign policy is to go into the powderkeg that is the middle east and start lighting fires? We shouldn't be anywhere near there and let the idiots over there figure it out. As far as universal health care goes, it has worked pretty well for other countries. None of these countries that currently use this system have gone to a socialistic approach. Stop using slippery slopes to justify something that will actually help people in this country.
I just hope people will get a brain and look at Obamas mentors and his background. He is for socialism, and wants to lead this country in the same direction as the european countries like germany and the UK. ( redistribution of wealth, etc) Why do you think he focused on Obamacare his first year in office to the exclusion of the REAL problem in America..the economy. Obamacare, a government run health program is only the first step to Socialism I don't want to live in a European type of government! If I did I would live in Europe. The mess in the middle East reflect his failed foreign policy. When he took his victory lap over the killing of Osama Obama, he touted that Al Qaeda was brought to it's knees. Not true! Al Qaeda is alive and well. Who do you think killed those 4 Americans in Libya? There had been a terrorist cell in that region, and Ambassador had gotten threats and felt unsafe. The Embassy on several occasions had asked Wahington for extra security and was denied each time.Come on! Even Paris Embassy has a Marine Unit to guard it. Why not have one for the highly volatile region that Libya has always been?...look out people..Be afraid be very afraid.
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As far as universal health care goes, it has worked pretty well for other countries. None of these countries that currently use this system have gone to a socialistic approach. Stop using slippery slopes to justify something that will actually help people in this country.
I want to see just how much you think it's gonna help when you start paying through the nose for it AND you're not getting the services you used to get. I want to see how you're gonna like TRAVELING a couple of hours to see a SPECIALIST if you should need one. I want to see how you're gonna like WAITING FOR MONTHS for an appointment with a physician (IF you can find one close enough to you in the first place). Doctors are RUNNING from Obamacare. Some (already) have gone the way of NOT accepting ANY insurance any more. CASH OR NOTHIN'! Many other physicians have vowed that it's time to find a new career. Who are you gonna see when there are few to none physicians left?
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Let em go, then. More people will come around to fill the void. I suppose you think the current system is just fine and rosy? We're ranked 39th in the world in healthcare and we pay WAY more for it than other countries. You got any better ideas or are you just going to sit on the bench and cry and complain? At least someone is getting off their *bleep* and doing something about it.
As far as universal health care goes, it has worked pretty well for other countries. None of these countries that currently use this system have gone to a socialistic approach. Stop using slippery slopes to justify something that will actually help people in this country.
I want to see just how much you think it's gonna help when you start paying through the nose for it AND you're not getting the services you used to get. I want to see how you're gonna like TRAVELING a couple of hours to see a SPECIALIST if you should need one. I want to see how you're gonna like WAITING FOR MONTHS for an appointment with a physician (IF you can find one close enough to you in the first place). Doctors are RUNNING from Obamacare. Some (already) have gone the way of NOT accepting ANY insurance any more. CASH OR NOTHIN'! Many other physicians have vowed that it's time to find a new career. Who are you gonna see when there are few to none physicians left?
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Obama wants everything under his control!! He doesnt want to be President he wants to be a dictator!!! He Doesn't take responsibility for his actions he blames everyone else.
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We should never talk about politics and it's very pointless. Not a fan of any politicians since I do not trust them. I hear people saying they support Obama and I here others saying they support Romney. Either way, I do not like either candidates. They are both terrible big liars and I do not trust either of them. So I highly doubt I will ever vote for either of the two candidates.
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As far as universal health care goes, it has worked pretty well for other countries. None of these countries that currently use this system have gone to a socialistic approach. Stop using slippery slopes to justify something that will actually help people in this country.
I want to see just how much you think it's gonna help when you start paying through the nose for it AND you're not getting the services you used to get. I want to see how you're gonna like TRAVELING a couple of hours to see a SPECIALIST if you should need one. I want to see how you're gonna like WAITING FOR MONTHS for an appointment with a physician (IF you can find one close enough to you in the first place). Doctors are RUNNING from Obamacare. Some (already) have gone the way of NOT accepting ANY insurance any more. CASH OR NOTHIN'! Many other physicians have vowed that it's time to find a new career. Who are you gonna see when there are few to none physicians left?
Let em go, then. More people will come around to fill the void. I suppose you think the current system is just fine and rosy? We're ranked 39th in the world in healthcare and we pay WAY more for it than other countries. You got any better ideas or are you just going to sit on the bench and cry and complain? At least someone is getting off their *bleep* and doing something about it.
It is about time someone did something to fix healthcare in this country. The insurance companies are behind all the negative criticism and fear mongering that is going on, because these wealthy empires will be greatly impacted, as well they should be, along with the drug companies. We are all suffering through an economic nightmare and slow recovery but not the insurance companies. They have always profited at our expense. Obamacare, bring it on! and in 2014 when the American public began to feel the full, positive effects of these reformed policies, people will know who was behind all the fear mongering that went on. Obama just picked up and continued the fight that Ted Kennedy started and spent his entire political career trying to accomplish...Equal access to affordable, good health care for all Americans, not just a few.....
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I'm not carrying the rich on my shoulders, neither do I want to carry the "poor." Romney isn't going to get rid of medicare, just reform it so that there will be something left for us younger people who are paying in far more that the old people ever did, due to lower wages back then. Obama has had 4 years to bring back jobs, yet when it came time to approve the keystone pipeline which would've created a lot of good paying jobs, he denied it to appease the envirnomentalists. As for the rest, it's amazing how people are so adamant about their so-called rights, but they don't mind at all giving up the fundamental rights guaranteed by the Constitution, rights that this country was founded to protect.
By the way, women have the right to do what they want to their own bodies, but not to the helpless little body that's growing inside them.
I couldn't have said this better myself.
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How is abortion rights even an issue with you people? Isn't it fair to say that the current way the law is written is pretty fair? Or would you rather a plethora of unwanted children roaming the damn streets because you banned abortion? Please don't tell me you think the morning after pill should be outlawed as well.
I'm not carrying the rich on my shoulders, neither do I want to carry the "poor." Romney isn't going to get rid of medicare, just reform it so that there will be something left for us younger people who are paying in far more that the old people ever did, due to lower wages back then. Obama has had 4 years to bring back jobs, yet when it came time to approve the keystone pipeline which would've created a lot of good paying jobs, he denied it to appease the envirnomentalists. As for the rest, it's amazing how people are so adamant about their so-called rights, but they don't mind at all giving up the fundamental rights guaranteed by the Constitution, rights that this country was founded to protect.
By the way, women have the right to do what they want to their own bodies, but not to the helpless little body that's growing inside them.
I couldn't have said this better myself.
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How is abortion rights even an issue with you people? Isn't it fair to say that the current way the law is written is pretty fair? Or would you rather a plethora of unwanted children roaming the damn streets because you banned abortion? Please don't tell me you think the morning after pill should be outlawed as well.
I'm not carrying the rich on my shoulders, neither do I want to carry the "poor." Romney isn't going to get rid of medicare, just reform it so that there will be something left for us younger people who are paying in far more that the old people ever did, due to lower wages back then. Obama has had 4 years to bring back jobs, yet when it came time to approve the keystone pipeline which would've created a lot of good paying jobs, he denied it to appease the envirnomentalists. As for the rest, it's amazing how people are so adamant about their so-called rights, but they don't mind at all giving up the fundamental rights guaranteed by the Constitution, rights that this country was founded to protect.
By the way, women have the right to do what they want to their own bodies, but not to the helpless little body that's growing inside them.
I couldn't have said this better myself.
Why are you getting so hot and defensive? And no, I do not believe the morning after pill should be "outlawed." Those pills are also available for ladies who have been raped. There are extenuating circumstances, I feel that would be necessary, when mom or baby, or both, are in danger, etc., that would prompt taking the baby.
For those who "use" abortion as birth control, just because they don't want a kid, it's wrong, and they will be held responsible for killing that baby's life. That's a major point between pro-lifers and pro-choicers - the deliberately killing of a baby because they don't want it. Whatever happened to responsibility? There are places, too, that will help with adopting out, as well. I don't wish to get into this further with you, I just happened to agree with what the other poster said. Since you quoted me, I felt compelled to answer. We may not agree on this, but it's not doing anyone any good to get all riled up on here. Thank you.
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The night that the embassidor was murdered he and his wife went out and partied with Beyonce and Jay-Z. Jay-Z is one of his spokes people. He should have been working to solve and bring judgement to that place and instead he was parting and dancing the night away. He gets paid so much of a vast amount of money and yet he still wants secretaries to do his work for him.
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That's all pretty fair and moderate to be honest. There are certain restrictions on abortions, it's not like you can legally have then late in a term. So, according to you when should that point be? Some see the morning after pill as an abortion, but when do you see the cutoff before it should not "legally" be allowed.
How is abortion rights even an issue with you people? Isn't it fair to say that the current way the law is written is pretty fair? Or would you rather a plethora of unwanted children roaming the damn streets because you banned abortion? Please don't tell me you think the morning after pill should be outlawed as well.
I'm not carrying the rich on my shoulders, neither do I want to carry the "poor." Romney isn't going to get rid of medicare, just reform it so that there will be something left for us younger people who are paying in far more that the old people ever did, due to lower wages back then. Obama has had 4 years to bring back jobs, yet when it came time to approve the keystone pipeline which would've created a lot of good paying jobs, he denied it to appease the envirnomentalists. As for the rest, it's amazing how people are so adamant about their so-called rights, but they don't mind at all giving up the fundamental rights guaranteed by the Constitution, rights that this country was founded to protect.
By the way, women have the right to do what they want to their own bodies, but not to the helpless little body that's growing inside them.
I couldn't have said this better myself.
Why are you getting so hot and defensive? And no, I do not believe the morning after pill should be "outlawed." Those pills are also available for ladies who have been raped. There are extenuating circumstances, I feel that would be necessary, when mom or baby, or both, are in danger, etc., that would prompt taking the baby.
For those who "use" abortion as birth control, just because they don't want a kid, it's wrong, and they will be held responsible for killing that baby's life. That's a major point between pro-lifers and pro-choicers - the deliberately killing of a baby because they don't want it. Whatever happened to responsibility? There are places, too, that will help with adopting out, as well. I don't wish to get into this further with you, I just happened to agree with what the other poster said. Since you quoted me, I felt compelled to answer. We may not agree on this, but it's not doing anyone any good to get all riled up on here. Thank you.
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That's all pretty fair and moderate to be honest. There are certain restrictions on abortions, it's not like you can legally have then late in a term. So, according to you when should that point be? Some see the morning after pill as an abortion, but when do you see the cutoff before it should not "legally" be allowed.
How is abortion rights even an issue with you people? Isn't it fair to say that the current way the law is written is pretty fair? Or would you rather a plethora of unwanted children roaming the damn streets because you banned abortion? Please don't tell me you think the morning after pill should be outlawed as well.
I'm not carrying the rich on my shoulders, neither do I want to carry the "poor." Romney isn't going to get rid of medicare, just reform it so that there will be something left for us younger people who are paying in far more that the old people ever did, due to lower wages back then. Obama has had 4 years to bring back jobs, yet when it came time to approve the keystone pipeline which would've created a lot of good paying jobs, he denied it to appease the envirnomentalists. As for the rest, it's amazing how people are so adamant about their so-called rights, but they don't mind at all giving up the fundamental rights guaranteed by the Constitution, rights that this country was founded to protect.
By the way, women have the right to do what they want to their own bodies, but not to the helpless little body that's growing inside them.
I couldn't have said this better myself.
Why are you getting so hot and defensive? And no, I do not believe the morning after pill should be "outlawed." Those pills are also available for ladies who have been raped. There are extenuating circumstances, I feel that would be necessary, when mom or baby, or both, are in danger, etc., that would prompt taking the baby.
For those who "use" abortion as birth control, just because they don't want a kid, it's wrong, and they will be held responsible for killing that baby's life. That's a major point between pro-lifers and pro-choicers - the deliberately killing of a baby because they don't want it. Whatever happened to responsibility? There are places, too, that will help with adopting out, as well. I don't wish to get into this further with you, I just happened to agree with what the other poster said. Since you quoted me, I felt compelled to answer. We may not agree on this, but it's not doing anyone any good to get all riled up on here. Thank you.
For me, if a person was raped, checked out through the police dept., then is provided a pill for just in case, none of us know whether a baby was conceived or not - the pill is used more as a preventative measure at that point.
If someone gets pregnant, knowing the possibility of pregnancy may occur, then later finds out she is pregnant, and follows through to abort, just because she either doesn't want a kid now, later, or even maybe a certain gender is not wanted, then that to me is wrong - the baby is already forming inside the womb, and depending on the mother's vitals to survive to full term. Thank you for asking. :)
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The night that the embassidor was murdered he and his wife went out and partied with Beyonce and Jay-Z. Jay-Z is one of his spokes people. He should have been working to solve and bring judgement to that place and instead he was parting and dancing the night away. He gets paid so much of a vast amount of money and yet he still wants secretaries to do his work for him.
You need to really read more and not just those books about weird things and people. You are telling things that are not researched and not truthful. Also learn how to spell Ambassador. It was not Obama's fault these sad acts happen, cause if that's the case then every president who have had people die under they watch being over seas or in a consulate in another country should be blamed for them murders also. Speak with some kind of knowledge of whats going on and not with ignorance. :bs:
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Obama's supposed to be for the middle class, unlike Romney who supposedly favors the rich. But he is really just a hypocrite. I saw one of his ads while I was doing a survey, where he accuses Romney of wanting to raise taxes on middle class households by $2000. Really it is Obama who has already done that (actually more than $2000) with Obamacare! He can't fall back on the excuse that the healthcare taxes are fines, since the Supreme Court has ruled that it is indeed a new tax, which falls squarely on the shoulders of the middle class, since the rich can afford the best private insurance, and certainly won't need to pay any fines or taxes. I know Romney lies as much as Obama, you can't believe a word of what most politicians say, and all the presidents are just puppets anyway, but unfortunately for our country there are too many sheeple that just blindly follow the media and still believe Obama's their savior. (Although the first time around Obama did tell the truth about a lot of his openly communist plans for the country, and people still voted for him! Americans today obviously don't care about freedom any more).
Obama is not interested in anything AMERICAN!!! His only interest lies in the WORKINGS OF THE COMMUNIST PARTY. This has been the case long before he ever ran for any office, including Chicago. In addition, his mentors have led him in the direction of communism since he was a little tyke and the thoughts, words and deeds that were instilled in him then will NEVER BE UNDONE!!!! As for his "likability" that's where Americans were fooled in 2008 - he would make all the empty promises, lie after lie and people were mesmerized by his suave, cunning ways!!!! Today Americans have seen what 4 yrs of this man have done to this country (oh, and by the way, he is only the puppet here - VALERIE JARRETT, is the puppetmaster - she is the REAL FORCE OF THE PRESIDENCY AND THAT'S NOT GOOD - SHE IS A MUSLIM COMMUNIST) and we are tired of his lies upon lies which continue including BENGHAZI!!!! SO GOODBYE AND GOOD RIDDENS - DON'T LET THE DOOR HIT YA ON THE WAY OUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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The O must go! ;D
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It will all be over tuesday thank god.
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It will all be over tuesday thank god.
Yes it will be over and I will be happy when Obama wins and Mitt will be sent on his merry way. :wave: :wave: :wave: :wave:
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I think we should vote for who you think would do best. But just remember who you vote for if he wins don't get mad if you see he's not doing what you wanted him to do. Trust me this certain person if he wins doesn't seem like he care about anyone but people that make money like him.
Just speaking my mind.
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I live in one of the swing states and we have simply been unmercifully bombarded with election ads on TV and in every other form of media for the last few months. I found it interesting in the difference between the ads run by the Democrats and those run by the Republicans. The Republican ads were all voice overs where someone was talking about Obama but the Democrats ads just let Romney talk and he pretty much hung himself. :thumbsup:
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If anyone remembers when bush was in office the congress was made up of almost all dems and he couldnt get alot passed. Everything kept getting vetoed. Some of Bushes ideas were passed by obama when he took office still with the main majority being dems. Romney is coming saying he can work with both and make a difference. I am not sure why there is different parties anyways. They should all come together and do what is right for us and the american people. our vets, elderly etc. We need a president also that will put his hand over his heart like we all did growing up. I pledge allegiance to the flag........... America is made up of different races, religions etc. We cant let them take that away. That is our right.
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yes he is. Everything that was done because of him the last 4 years and he blamed it all on Bush. He don't want to take responsibility for anything unless it is a good outcome.
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Hi, I beg to differ my friend :) I have been a diehard Obama fan ever since I became aware of him doing the 2008 elections. He is a brilliant man, father, husband, politician and President(not tryig to sell his attributes :) :). I, personally, feel all the presidential candidate's ads ad lib and include some untruthfullness. I haven't seen one ad yet that I thought was totally honest....JUST SAYING!
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I agree, Obama is a brilliant man and he has very smart advisers as well. If this country's problems are to be fixed, his administration is the one to do it. His campaign and election resulted exactly the way he and his campaign adviser David Axelrod, another brilliant man, said it would. Whereas Romney and all of his advisers were completely in the dark about the outcome of their own campaign. They had everything wrong and were in complete shock when they were beaten. Romney was so disillusioned about his success in the election, that he hadn't even written a concession speech :dontknow: That is exactly the way he would have run the country. Brilliant businessman does not translate into brilliant politician and leader of the free world. That's what President Obama is. :star:
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I agree, Obama is a brilliant man and he has very smart advisers as well. If this country's problems are to be fixed, his administration is the one to do it. His campaign and election resulted exactly the way he and his campaign adviser David Axelrod, another brilliant man, said it would. Whereas Romney and all of his advisers were completely in the dark about the outcome of their own campaign. They had everything wrong and were in complete shock when they were beaten. Romney was so disillusioned about his success in the election, that he hadn't even written a concession speech :dontknow: That is exactly the way he would have run the country. Brilliant businessman does not translate into brilliant politician and leader of the free world. That's what President Obama is. :star:
Well said, I agree. :peace: