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Discussion Boards => FusionCash => Topic started by: Sohcahtoa on November 22, 2009, 01:57:09 am
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I'm considering buying some banner ad space on a popular webcomic that I visit every day. For $30 I can get 50,000 banner views. If only 10 of them actually register, confirm their e-mail account, and do one offer, I'll break even. That's only 0.02% of the people that see the banner.
Anyways, has anyone here ever bought ad space somewhere to get referrals and gotten any success?
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No I never have. Just do it by word of mouth. Thats how i did mine and i have got referrals
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I would start out with a smaller amount, like $10. If you break even from that, I'd continue.
Try it out if you want. :icon_rr:
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My problem with word-of-mouth referrals is that all my friends are too skeptical about stuff like this. While they don't see it as a scam per se, they certainly see it as a way for a large number of spammers to get your e-mail address (Hence why I created an e-mail account just for FC).
They would also find FC's claim of earning "hundreds in hours" to be very misleading (Which it is). Really, if you're sticking to the Free/No CC offers, you can't really make much more than $5/hr without referrals.
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I've never bought ad space and don't plan on it, if word of mouth isn't working, try showing them your account page that shows them that you've been credited for things, maybe show them people's signatures on the forum, there are plenty that show people have received hundreds of dollars. I've gotten referrals just by saying "Really what do you have to lose? it costs nothing and you can leave if you don't like it" and as you've said they can create and email account especially for this. It seems to work for me.
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I've never bought ad space and don't plan on it, if word of mouth isn't working, try showing them your account page that shows them that you've been credited for things, maybe show them people's signatures on the forum, there are plenty that show people have received hundreds of dollars. I've gotten referrals just by saying "Really what do you have to lose? it costs nothing and you can leave if you don't like it" and as you've said they can create and email account especially for this. It seems to work for me.
I have bought ad space and it paid off in the long run. Just the other day I made $30 just in cashout bonuses from my hundreds of referrals. The more you have, the more often they cashout, it's a numbers game and the numbers need to be big. I should add, I would NEVER pay $30 for banner ads.
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I've never bought ad space and don't plan on it, if word of mouth isn't working, try showing them your account page that shows them that you've been credited for things, maybe show them people's signatures on the forum, there are plenty that show people have received hundreds of dollars. I've gotten referrals just by saying "Really what do you have to lose? it costs nothing and you can leave if you don't like it" and as you've said they can create and email account especially for this. It seems to work for me.
I have bought ad space and it paid off in the long run. Just the other day I made $30 just in cashout bonuses from my hundreds of referrals. The more you have, the more often they cashout, it's a numbers game and the numbers need to be big. I should add, I would NEVER pay $30 for banner ads.
Hi oldbuddy! I'm still active on at least one of your sites. :angel11:
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The site I was going to advertise on also runs ads from Project Wonderful, which is an interesting site that handles advertising. Basically, you make a bid on how much money you're willing to spend to have your ad shown for a full day. Whoever is the highest bidder gets their ad shown. Once someone becomes the new highest bidder, their ad is immediately shown. However, you're only charged for the time your ad is actually shown, accurate to the nearest second.
For example, let's say I bid $5/day and want to show my ad for 2 days total, and I put the ad up at noon. At midnight that day, someone puts in a bid for $10/day, but for one day. From that time until midnight the next day, their ad gets shown instead of mine. After that, my ad goes back up and continues for another day and a half.
Its great because everybody wins. The person running the website can let advertisers decide how much they want to pay, and it goes to the highest bidder. During times when advertising becomes rampant, like during Christmas, advertisers are willing to pay more to ensure that their ad gets shown, so the website owner makes a lot of money.
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The site I was going to advertise on also runs ads from Project Wonderful, which is an interesting site that handles advertising. Basically, you make a bid on how much money you're willing to spend to have your ad shown for a full day. Whoever is the highest bidder gets their ad shown. Once someone becomes the new highest bidder, their ad is immediately shown. However, you're only charged for the time your ad is actually shown, accurate to the nearest second.
For example, let's say I bid $5/day and want to show my ad for 2 days total, and I put the ad up at noon. At midnight that day, someone puts in a bid for $10/day, but for one day. From that time until midnight the next day, their ad gets shown instead of mine. After that, my ad goes back up and continues for another day and a half.
Its great because everybody wins. The person running the website can let advertisers decide how much they want to pay, and it goes to the highest bidder. During times when advertising becomes rampant, like during Christmas, advertisers are willing to pay more to ensure that their ad gets shown, so the website owner makes a lot of money.
It doesn't matter what kind of scheme they come up with, you need to track everything and do the math. If you spend $5 to run your ad for two days, it better pull in at least 4 referrals that validate their email address and earn you a buck. You can probably make the last buck along with a small profit from the rest. What I would do instead is set up a capture page and advertise that with a lead in to Fusioncash. I haven't always felt that way, but I found a new tool that makes a list provide much higher odds by including better followup.
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No I haven't. I don't know that I would consider it.
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It doesn't matter what kind of scheme they come up with, you need to track everything and do the math. If you spend $5 to run your ad for two days, it better pull in at least 4 referrals that validate their email address and earn you a buck. You can probably make the last buck along with a small profit from the rest. What I would do instead is set up a capture page and advertise that with a lead in to Fusioncash. I haven't always felt that way, but I found a new tool that makes a list provide much higher odds by including better followup.
A lead-in to FusionCash? Are you talking about just having a page that I write that describes FusionCash and how it works, with the referral link on that page?
I certainly wouldn't use FusionCash's banners that they provide. Having "FREE MONEY" plastered on it is the best way to scare people away, because anyone with half a brain knows that there's no such thing as free money. Instead, I would design a similar banner advertising getting paid for doing surveys. Also, I DEFINITELY wouldn't claim "Earn hundreds in hours!" as the only way to pull that off would be to do every offer that requires a CC. And again, the "Too good to be true" alarm goes off inside anyone who sees the banner.
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It doesn't matter what kind of scheme they come up with, you need to track everything and do the math. If you spend $5 to run your ad for two days, it better pull in at least 4 referrals that validate their email address and earn you a buck. You can probably make the last buck along with a small profit from the rest. What I would do instead is set up a capture page and advertise that with a lead in to Fusioncash. I haven't always felt that way, but I found a new tool that makes a list provide much higher odds by including better followup.
A lead-in to FusionCash? Are you talking about just having a page that I write that describes FusionCash and how it works, with the referral link on that page?
I certainly wouldn't use FusionCash's banners that they provide. Having "FREE MONEY" plastered on it is the best way to scare people away, because anyone with half a brain knows that there's no such thing as free money. Instead, I would design a similar banner advertising getting paid for doing surveys. Also, I DEFINITELY wouldn't claim "Earn hundreds in hours!" as the only way to pull that off would be to do every offer that requires a CC. And again, the "Too good to be true" alarm goes off inside anyone who sees the banner.
Of course you can use what you like as long as it doesn't violate the rules, but the banner below is the same one I used on my own page to get 500 referrals, so go figure???
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I'll try several different methods to get referrals, and this one has crossed my mind a couple times. Good to see everyone's experiences in ads.
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It seems as though there are enough free places to advertise that it would be silly to spend 30 dollars, though I could understand 5 if there were proven results.
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It seems as though there are enough free places to advertise that it would be silly to spend 30 dollars, though I could understand 5 if there were proven results.
That's why I have 500 of them and most people don't have 5.
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I use Traffic Exchanges for ads. No luck with them - but I still use them. Ya never know.....
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The whole idea seems a bit odd to me... I mean, referrals are definitely the fastest way to make money on FC but the idea surrounding Advertising FC to people so they can log on and try offers from more advertisers seems a bit weird to say the least. I say, do the math, give it a test try, hope for the best. :)
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It seems as though there are enough free places to advertise that it would be silly to spend 30 dollars, though I could understand 5 if there were proven results.
That's why I have 500 of them and most people don't have 5.
I agree their are a lot of free ways to advertise on the Internet. I use PTC sites,and traffic sites for a website i have and and i get quite a few hits. You just have to get creative.
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It seems as though there are enough free places to advertise that it would be silly to spend 30 dollars, though I could understand 5 if there were proven results.
That's why I have 500 of them and most people don't have 5.
I agree their are a lot of free ways to advertise on the Internet. I use PTC sites,and traffic sites for a website i have and and i get quite a few hits. You just have to get creative.
But hits don't put any cash in your pocket. Take another look at my banner, that's what referrals have to do for you before they count.
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I used to have a movie discussion website. I put some Google ads and other referral ads but didn't get many clicks etc. People (me included) usually avoid them like the plague.
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Well I went ahead and paid for some ad space. I've got $15 split over several sites, paying up to 30 cents per day. However, as I mentioned in a previous post, this is done auction style. I'm outbid on 2 of the 6 sites I have bids on.
The sites I have the ads on get between 50,000 and 100,000 unique visitors per day each. I'm kind of excited to see how it ends up going. It could completely flop and I'm out $15, but its a risk I'm willing to take. All it takes is 5 people to register and complete an offer to break even on this, and with about 300,000 people seeing my ad (Its on 4 sites right now!), its completely possible.
But only time will tell. I'll crap a brick if I come home from work tomorrow to find $50 in referral bonuses, but of course, I'll also not be surprised at all if I come home to find $0. My hopes are high, but my expectation is low. I won't be disappointed with any result.
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Be sure to post again if you do well on this. I hope you do come home to $50 tomorrow, that'd be great wouldn't it?
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Well, I've gotten 12 unique clicks so far, but either none of them registered, or they didn't get put with me as the referral somehow. However, my ad hasn't been up the entire time. Other people have placed and retracted bids throughout the day and last night. Among all the sites, I've had 36,000 unique views.
I've increased my bids to 50 cents per day, except for the one that had the most clicks. I'm increasing that one to $1/day.
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A lead-in to FusionCash? Are you talking about just having a page that I write that describes FusionCash and how it works, with the referral link on that page?
I certainly wouldn't use FusionCash's banners that they provide. Having "FREE MONEY" plastered on it is the best way to scare people away, because anyone with half a brain knows that there's no such thing as free money. Instead, I would design a similar banner advertising getting paid for doing surveys. Also, I DEFINITELY wouldn't claim "Earn hundreds in hours!" as the only way to pull that off would be to do every offer that requires a CC. And again, the "Too good to be true" alarm goes off inside anyone who sees the banner.
I use my FC banner on a social networking site (not like FB or myspace) and I got over $90 in the past two months from referrals alone. The more I make the more people are lured into clicking my money it just keeps getting better :)
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So far, $1 of my $15 deposit to Project Wonderful has been spent. I've gotten 16 clicks, but still nobody registering. Still plenty of time left. As I said before, I didn't like any of the banners that FusionCash has because they plaster "FREE MONEY" on them which I would think sets off people's alarms that its not legit. I've attached the banner in case anyone else wants to use it. Its an animated GIF.
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there are so many free places, you just have to find them and become frequent users.
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I've gotten 57 clicks on my banner, yet still no referrals. Either none of them have registered, or somehow I'm not being set as the referrer. I've doublechecked my URL.
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Very cool project, and thank you for sharing your results... It's definitely something to look in to.
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The only time I "pay" for ad space is when I use some of my earnings on another GPT site to put banners there. That is where my one referral came from. Unfortunately I don't really know how to advertise online to get referrals. So I don't bother much.
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i dont want to pay but is there free places that you could put up an ad? and what is the best way to get referrals other than word of mouth? ive tried searching yahoo questions but they are all already answered.
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i wont pay 30 bucks for that.
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i've spent money before and didn't really have any good responses. but it wasn't the most effective advertising either
i have been trying to contact some sites that get 1,000,000's of hits but they are dam slow to respond lol
but i will pay for advertising without thinking twice about it if i feel there may be some good responses.
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Sounds like a way to make money, but that does seem kind of expensive.
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Well...the $15 I had allocated to advertising is almost all spent, and I had several hundred thousand people see my banner, with 177 people clicking it.
...But no referrals. Nobody actually registered/verified e-mail/did an offer. My list of referrals is BLANK.
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A lead-in to FusionCash? Are you talking about just having a page that I write that describes FusionCash and how it works, with the referral link on that page?
I certainly wouldn't use FusionCash's banners that they provide. Having "FREE MONEY" plastered on it is the best way to scare people away, because anyone with half a brain knows that there's no such thing as free money. Instead, I would design a similar banner advertising getting paid for doing surveys. Also, I DEFINITELY wouldn't claim "Earn hundreds in hours!" as the only way to pull that off would be to do every offer that requires a CC. And again, the "Too good to be true" alarm goes off inside anyone who sees the banner.
I use my FC banner on a social networking site (not like FB or myspace) and I got over $90 in the past two months from referrals alone. The more I make the more people are lured into clicking my money it just keeps getting better :)
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If it isn't FB or MySpace, what site is it that you have such good results?
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Well my advertising money is almost all used up (87 cents left, to be exact). The $15 got me 1 referral, earning me $1 for signing up and $2 for completing an offer.
I had discovered the Campaign feature of Project Wonderful, where instead of hand-picking websites to put my banner, I can just give it some criteria (Including how much traffic the site gets) for what kind of sites to show my banner, and how much I'm willing to spend per site, as well as what times of day to show my banner. This helps me get more bang for my buck by not paying to have my banner shown during non-peak internet usage times. I'm considering dropping another $15 into the advertising to play with this to try to get exposure to more expensive banner slots, but with limited time frames. For example, I could advertise on a gaming site from just 3 PM to midnight.
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The original $15 netted me two referrals, but one of them hasn't verified their e-mail or completed an offer, so he's worth nothing to me yet.
I'm investing another $10 into ads, but this time I'm being a little smarter about it. I'm using the campaign feature to spread my banner everywhere that has an incredibly small bid of 10 cents per day, but has at least 1000 unique viewers a day, and only between 8 AM and 11 PM. I've also put in a bid on the site that gave me the most hits per cent. Its bidding is still surprisingly low. There was another site that got my banner a lot of hits, but the bidding has gone up a LOT since the first time I put a bid on it.
Hopefully I'll get a good couple more referrals before the Dec 31 deadline for cashing out to get paid in January!
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Hey Mac5, you DO know that just making a bunch of single-word posts, or posts consisting of just an emoticon won't earn you the $3 bonus for being active on the forums, right? You're not really contributing to the discussion.
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I think you shouldn't use the program your using. It sounds likes it a lot of :bs:, people can out bid you so you lose any chances of getting hits from that site, plus the website can put your adds on any site they want unless you you that campaign manager. So i suggest you just go to your sites you visit make a banner sort of related to the site.(if its a cartooning site use a banner saying make easy cash for cartooning programs) And the same thing with the splash
page direct it towards your audience. :thumbsup: good luck though with your $10 you just reinvested, it sounds like you have a better plan then the last one.
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If someone out-bids me, my banner doesn't show up, sure. However, I don't get charged for time that my banner isn't being shown.
As for putting my banner on any site they want...so what? Isn't that a GOOD thing? That's the entire point of the Campaign feature: To give your ad maximum exposure with minimal effort! I don't have to manually place bids on dozens of sites. Instead, I give a criteria for what kinds of sites I want my banner on, and it bids for me on all the sites that match!
I mean, sure I suppose I could get more creative and create a larger variety of banners catered to different kinds of websites, but the 100K filesize limit is pretty restricting for an animated GIF of that size.
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Seeing that I've gotten over 200 clicks on my banners, but only 2 actual referals, I'm thinking I really should create a splash page, just something that explains what FusionCash is, what it isn't, tips for using it, etc. For example, FusionCash is NOT:
-A get rich quick scheme
-A scam
-Going to replace your job income
What it IS:
-A way to get a couple extra dollars
-Something to do while you do something else on the computer. For example, I'll breeze through surveys while I wait for my turn while I play online Poker.
As for tips, I'd just include the tips from the offer crediting thread, as well as explanations on how to do the daily PTC, etc.
I'm just trying to figure out why I have so many people clicking my banner, seeing the FusionCash front page, but not registering. The front page looks perfectly legit. It doesn't promise huge sums of money for no effort, it doesn't look like its trying to be a get-rich-quick scheme.
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I'm considering buying some banner ad space on a popular webcomic that I visit every day. For $30 I can get 50,000 banner views. If only 10 of them actually register, confirm their e-mail account, and do one offer, I'll break even. That's only 0.02% of the people that see the banner.
Anyways, has anyone here ever bought ad space somewhere to get referrals and gotten any success?