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Title: Doctor who treated first US COVID-19 patient warns of second wave ‘as big as the
Post by: cadence4u on May 05, 2020, 11:15:26 am
Doctor who treated first US COVID-19 patient warns of second wave ‘as big as the first' as states ease lockdown and fears US does not have resources to handle it

* Dr George Diaz treated his first COVID-18 patient in Washington state in January
* He used the anti-viral drug remdesivir to quickly treat the now-recovered victim
* Dr Diaz has revealed he is worried about easing shelter-in-place restrictions
* He says a second outbreak of the deadly virus could be just as bad as the first

The doctor who treated the first COVID-19 patient in the United States said yesterday that he fears a second outbreak of the disease when lockdown measures are lifted and doesn't know if the country has the resources to handle it again.

Dr George Diaz treated his first coronavirus patient, diagnosed in January in Washington state, with remdesivir, an experimental anti-viral the US approved for emergency use on Friday. 

Despite the drug's apparent success when the patient recovered Diaz said isolation is still the 'most effective' treatment and he worried 'when the economy starts to reopen, we are going to see a second outbreak that is perhaps as big as the first'.

'The first one was very difficult for us and for the whole world,' Díaz told reporters during a video meeting organized by the State Department.

Since that first case in January, the US has overtaken all other countries to have by far the highest caseload - about 1.2 million - as well as the most deaths, around 69,780.

Despite forecasts of a worsening death toll, some states are already reopening to try to ease the economic strain of lockdown orders that have put more than 30 million Americans out of work in six weeks. 

Remdesivir, made by Gilead Sciences, was shown in a major clinical trial to shorten the time to recovery in some coronavirus patients.

Diaz said that, pending development of a vaccine, remdesivir appears to act against the virus, but he cautioned that the drug must be used very wisely.

It should not be a crutch for people to say, ''I can now do whatever I want because we have a treatment". No,' Diaz warned.

They must continue to follow guidance on social distancing, he said.

On Monday two staggering coronavirus projections were released including a private model by the Centers of Disease Control and Prevention pulled together in chart form by the Federal Emergency Management Agency.

They said the daily death toll of COVID-19 will reach 3,000 cases daily on June 1.

That number is nearly double the current level of 1,750 deaths a day from the disease.

When asked about the leaked projection, president Donald Trump told the New York Post: 'I think it’s – I think it’s false, I think it’s fake news.'

The White House said that the leaked projection had not been 'presented to the coronavirus task force or gone through interagency vetting.'

Also on Monday The Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation at the University of Washington (IHME), which is often cited by the White House, released new models that forecast a death toll prediction of 134,475 fatalities by August 4, a major jump from its previous prediction of 72,433 deaths.     

The spikes in the two models are linked to relaxed social distancing measures and increased mobility as states start to reopen businesses.

These projections are considerably higher than previous estimates, representing the combined effects of death model updates and formally incorporating the effect of changes in mobility and social distancing policies into transmission dynamics,' The Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation at the University of Washington said.

IHME director Dr. Christopher Murray said factors that contribute to the heightened death prediction includes states adding presumptive COVID-19 deaths to their statistics and outbreaks in meatpacking plants across the nation. 

Now, he says, the nation needs to worry about how reopening states might compound those numbers even further. 

'I think the challenge for us all is to figure out what's the trajectory of relaxing social distancing on a measured pace that will protect us from big increases or even a full-scale resurgence,' he said to CNN.

After COVID-19 arrived to the US in January, businesses across the country soon shuttered and the economy began to stagger as confirmed cases – and deaths – spiked at unprecedented levels.

By March, the US had the largest number of infections in the world, even eclipsing China, where the virus originated in the city of Wuhan in December last year. 

In recent weeks, restless state officials have slowly peeled back restrictions, led by Georgia, in response to a number of stay-at-home protests.

The southeastern state took another step towards a full restart by letting all businesses reopen from Friday. Large crowds of people were seen in Atlanta on Sunday as shelter-in-place orders expired and businesses opened.

In Florida, which has seen 1,300 deaths and 36,000 infections among its 21.5 million residents, retailers and restaurants opened their doors at a 25 percent capacity.

While some beaches across parts of the state were allowed to reopen last month, Clearwater Beach in Tampa officially reopened to the public before sunrise on Monday morning.

Police removed 'closed' signs from barricades at 7am to the cheers of the 50 or so people waiting to step on the freshly groomed sand. Clearwater police have a large presence patrolling the beach and are urging people to socially distance.

Cafes along the beach also reopened with eateries allowed to resume dine-in services as long as they have outdoor seating and can ensure appropriate social distancing. 

Medical practices can also resume elective surgeries and procedures as part of the state's phased reopening.   

Movie theaters, bars and fitness clubs will remain closed for now. 

Governor Rick DeSantis has left existing restrictions in place across Miami-Dade, Broward and Palm Beach counties - the three most highly populated in the state.

DeSantis had drawn criticism for waiting until April 2 to clamp down on commerce - after most other states had already done so - in part because of Florida's high proportion of elderly residents - more than a fifth are age 65 and over - who are especially vulnerable to the virus.

But Florida, a key swing electoral swing state, appears to have avoided the worst of the health crisis seen in other states such as New York and New Jersey.

The highest daily number of infections occurred on April 17 with just over 1,400 new cases.

New daily infections have been considerably lower since then and only increased above 1,000 on April 23 and May 1. The highest daily deaths occurred on April 28 with 83 deaths and fatalities appear to be on the decline since then.

The state does not appear to have met all the White House's guidelines for reopening, which include 14 days of declining cases and contact tracers to track infections.   

Health experts are now concerned that warmer weather could prove to be challenging to manage coronavirus as restaurants, hair salons and other businesses reopen across the country. 

In New York City, the warmest weather yet this spring caused picnickers and sunbathers to flock to green spaces in Manhattan, including crowded conditions at the Christopher Street Pier in Greenwich Village.

Last week, California ordered beaches in Orange County to close, after crowds defied public health guidelines to throng the popular shoreline. Police in the county's Huntington Beach said people were complying on Sunday. 

Scott Gottlieb, a former FDA commissioner, said on Sunday the country was seeing a 'mixed bag' of results from coronavirus mitigation efforts.

He said there were about 20 states seeing a rising number of new cases including Illinois, Texas, Maryland, Indiana, Virginia, North Carolina and Tennessee. Virginia reported a record number of deaths on Sunday.

'We expected that we would start seeing more significant declines in new cases and deaths around the nation at this point. And we're just not seeing that,' he said on CBS' Face the Nation.

'If we don't snuff this out more and you have this slow burn of infection, it can ignite at any time.'

It comes after the US economy recorded its worst first quarter since the 2008 financial crisis this year, according to new data released on Wednesday which paints a clear picture of the economic havoc the coronavirus pandemic has caused.

A report released by the Bureau of Economic Analysis on Wednesday morning reveals GDP fell by 4.8 percent annualized between January and March.

Consumer spending fell by 7.6 percent and business investment shrank by 8.6 percent.

The data is not final and in a footnote the bureau said the true picture is likely far worse. Analysts had predicted that GDP might shrink by as much as 3.5 percent.

What Is Remdesivir & Does It Work Against Coronavirus?
Remdesivir was developed by Gilead Sciences to treat Ebola, the deadly hemorrhagic fever that emerged in West Africa in 2014.

Ebola, like COVID-19, is caused by a virus, and scientists are now testing remdesivir to treat coronavirus patients, but it's too soon to know if the drug works or not. 

Remdesivir produced encouraging results earlier this year when it showed promise for both preventing and treating MERS - another coronavirus - in macaque monkeys.

The drug appears to help stop the replication of viruses like coronavirus and Ebola alike.

It's not entirely clear how the drug accomplishes this feat, but it seems to stop the genetic material of the virus, RNA, from being able to copy itself.

That, in turn, stops the virus from being able to proliferate further inside the patient's body. 

NIH researchers in charge of the macaque study recommended that it move ahead to human trials with the new coronavirus.

Scientists have listened, and human trials for remdesivir first began in Nebraska.

Most recently, researchers trialing the drug at the University of Chicago reported that most of the 125 COVID-19 patients they'd teated with the drug had been discharged from the hospital, according to Stat News.

Two patients died over the course of the trial.
Title: Re: Doctor who treated first US COVID-19 patient warns of second wave ‘as big as the
Post by: mrisha on May 05, 2020, 09:22:18 pm
Per News Anchors who got info from scientists  is stating that there is a new wave of Covid19 and it's going to be worse than the first round of the virus.  Yet Trump is spouting off again saying everything is going to be Okay.  IT'S NOT GOING TO BE OKAY!!!!!
Title: Re: Doctor who treated first US COVID-19 patient warns of second wave ‘as big as the
Post by: nannycoe1 on May 06, 2020, 05:58:18 am
I also think we will have a second wave that might be worse than the first. It is too early to open back up.
Title: Re: Doctor who treated first US COVID-19 patient warns of second wave ‘as big as the
Post by: 1imaginarygirl on May 06, 2020, 11:05:34 am
I also think we will have a second wave that might be worse than the first. It is too early to open back up.

We're not done with the first wave. We can't stay shut down and wait for the second. We'll all starve to death before Covid kills us.
Title: Re: Doctor who treated first US COVID-19 patient warns of second wave ‘as big as the
Post by: teresa3200 on May 06, 2020, 08:06:18 pm
This is all very scary! I know me and mine will stay home til there is a vaccine.
Title: Re: Doctor who treated first US COVID-19 patient warns of second wave ‘as big as the
Post by: judylucas on May 07, 2020, 09:38:00 am
I'm not sure how they know it'll be back but same for me as it is now to stay in except when it is very necessary
Title: Re: Doctor who treated first US COVID-19 patient warns of second wave ‘as big as the
Post by: dancer139 on May 07, 2020, 11:15:04 am
Yep and it will happen because no one is social distancing,,,,  wearing their mask,,,  they are out parting and acting like this virus is nothing but a big joke.  Sad,,,  and I hope these non belivers don't get sick
Title: Re: Doctor who treated first US COVID-19 patient warns of second wave ‘as big as the
Post by: pectacon on May 08, 2020, 10:21:31 am
There will have to be a second wave no matter when we open. The shutdown was to change when we get infected, not if. We are meant to get sick in shifts so we don't overwhelm the healthcare system all at once.
Title: Re: Doctor who treated first US COVID-19 patient warns of second wave ‘as big as the
Post by: hawkeye3210 on May 08, 2020, 12:39:22 pm
I also think we will have a second wave that might be worse than the first. It is too early to open back up.

People still need to work so that they can pay their bills and feed their families. Not everyone can afford the luxury of staying home.
Title: Re: Doctor who treated first US COVID-19 patient warns of second wave ‘as big as the
Post by: countrygirl12 on May 08, 2020, 12:47:22 pm
More fear mongering. And the sheep keep on following them to the slaughter house. smh

FYI the freebies are not going to last forever. Eventually you gonna have to get off your butt, leave your house, and work again. Or live on the street.
Title: Re: Doctor who treated first US COVID-19 patient warns of second wave ‘as big as the
Post by: countrygirl12 on May 08, 2020, 12:49:24 pm
Yep and it will happen because no one is social distancing,,,,  wearing their mask,,,  they are out parting and acting like this virus is nothing but a big joke.  Sad,,,  and I hope these non belivers don't get sick

How do you know people are out partying?  If you were staying in your house, social distancing, then you would not know what everybody else is doing.  The virus is real just like the flu. But the fear monger surrounding the virus is what is a joke.
Title: Re: Doctor who treated first US COVID-19 patient warns of second wave ‘as big as the
Post by: Kimdud22 on May 08, 2020, 07:46:12 pm
I don't know how to feel about this. I do get that we do all have to continue on at some point but it is still scary and leaves us scared from the constant worry about our family.
Title: Re: Doctor who treated first US COVID-19 patient warns of second wave ‘as big as the
Post by: calendria on May 17, 2020, 11:47:35 am
 :cat:

Check first as the news could be old, but the site says it is current as of 5/17/2020, for instance the gyms they say are open in my state as of 5/13 are not.  The gym site says closed till 5/18/2020.  Even then I would call if I planned to visit.



https://www.superstartv.media/2020/05/every-states-reopening-plan-new-update.html

State by state reopening plans, very good article! Update thru 5/17/2020, 

Title: Re: Doctor who treated first US COVID-19 patient warns of second wave ‘as big as the
Post by: dsawan on May 17, 2020, 03:02:34 pm
Unemployment benefits cant last. we gotta go back to work.
Title: Re: Doctor who treated first US COVID-19 patient warns of second wave ‘as big as the
Post by: bretay on May 17, 2020, 04:15:31 pm
i personally will be glad when it is over...some people dont take it serious and some overly serious...sure do miss the old normal...
Title: Re: Doctor who treated first US COVID-19 patient warns of second wave ‘as big as the
Post by: Mizzkizz7 on May 17, 2020, 09:29:49 pm
I know a second wave is coming, I'm trying not to think about it but will still protect myself and my loved ones. We can't relax yet although some places are reopening.
Title: Re: Doctor who treated first US COVID-19 patient warns of second wave ‘as big as the
Post by: cateyes1 on May 18, 2020, 04:48:23 am
Bad idea on opening, it is waaaay to soon !!...And Countrygirl it is not fear monger it is FACT, I saw it first hand. You wont zip it until God forbid it happenes to your loved ones so go right ahead and blah blah blah all you want, talk to the hand. And NO, I am NOT "angry" or looking for a "fight" I am just voicing an opinion/thoughts ha ha
Title: Re: Doctor who treated first US COVID-19 patient warns of second wave ‘as big as the
Post by: countrygirl12 on May 18, 2020, 04:49:25 am
I know a second wave is coming, I'm trying not to think about it but will still protect myself and my loved ones. We can't relax yet although some places are reopening.
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Places need to reopen. We do not all get government checks. People have to work.  Do you not understand that businesses are closing for good?  People are losing everything they have worked their whole life to have. IF YOU do not want to go out in public then YOU can stay at home.  It amazes me at how people want to control other people's lives but get mad if somebody tries to control theirs.  Live and let live.  If you want to stay home and have somebody to take care of you then by all means - stay home!

Our Walmart has been PACKED since 2 weeks before this started. And not ONE person that works at Walmart has had this. NO cases have been linked to any one that was at Walmart. Nor any of the other retail places that have remained open and been totally slammed and jammed with people. 
Title: Re: Doctor who treated first US COVID-19 patient warns of second wave ‘as big as the
Post by: cateyes1 on May 18, 2020, 04:57:12 am
I know a second wave is coming, I'm trying not to think about it but will still protect myself and my loved ones. We can't relax yet although some places are reopening.
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Places need to reopen. We do not all get government checks. People have to work.  Do you not understand that businesses are closing for good?  People are losing everything they have worked their whole life to have. IF YOU do not want to go out in public then YOU can stay at home.  It amazes me at how people want to control other people's lives but get mad if somebody tries to control theirs.  Live and let live.  If you want to stay home and have somebody to take care of you then by all means - stay home!

Our Walmart has been PACKED since 2 weeks before this started. And not ONE person that works at Walmart has had this. NO cases have been linked to any one that was at Walmart. Nor any of the other retail places that have remained open and been totally slammed and jammed with people. 

NOBODY is trying to "control" ANYBODY. Its called trying to get this whole pandemic over once and for all so people can go out and about without fearing they may catch something that has already killed so many. I would rather be 6 feet apart than 6 feet under....have YOU been living under a rock? ...here comes the I am "angry" bit now or I am looking for a "fight" DANG!!
Title: Re: Doctor who treated first US COVID-19 patient warns of second wave ‘as big as the
Post by: cateyes1 on May 18, 2020, 05:58:57 am
Why we need to not open yet .........................https://www.newsweek.com/texas-reports-highest-single-day-rise-coronavirus-cases-state-continues-push-ahead-reopening-1504659
Title: Re: Doctor who treated first US COVID-19 patient warns of second wave ‘as big as the
Post by: countrygirl12 on May 18, 2020, 06:23:52 am
I know a second wave is coming, I'm trying not to think about it but will still protect myself and my loved ones. We can't relax yet although some places are reopening.
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Places need to reopen. We do not all get government checks. People have to work.  Do you not understand that businesses are closing for good?  People are losing everything they have worked their whole life to have. IF YOU do not want to go out in public then YOU can stay at home.  It amazes me at how people want to control other people's lives but get mad if somebody tries to control theirs.  Live and let live.  If you want to stay home and have somebody to take care of you then by all means - stay home!

Our Walmart has been PACKED since 2 weeks before this started. And not ONE person that works at Walmart has had this. NO cases have been linked to any one that was at Walmart. Nor any of the other retail places that have remained open and been totally slammed and jammed with people. 

NOBODY is trying to "control" ANYBODY. Its called trying to get this whole pandemic over once and for all so people can go out and about without fearing they may catch something that has already killed so many. I would rather be 6 feet apart than 6 feet under....have YOU been living under a rock? ...here comes the I am "angry" bit now or I am looking for a "fight" DANG!!

LOL  I thought you were not going to talk to me any more.  DANG!  You flock to every thing I say and respond to it. I am finding that hilarious.  And yes you are angry and yes you are trying to fight.  I did not even say anything to you but you come at me yelling how the sky is falling and everybody needs to hide in their home.  YOU hide in your home.  And YOU do not need to worry about the rest of us.  The death rate is less than 2%.  Seems you are the one living under a rock.  You believe everything the media spoon feeds you. haha

Guess you will now troll the rest of my comments and yell at me about that as well.  Oh well.  Guess you missed me.
Title: Re: Doctor who treated first US COVID-19 patient warns of second wave ‘as big as the
Post by: countrygirl12 on May 18, 2020, 06:48:09 am
Bad idea on opening, it is waaaay to soon !!...And Countrygirl it is not fear monger it is FACT, I saw it first hand. You wont zip it until God forbid it happenes to your loved ones so go right ahead and blah blah blah all you want, talk to the hand. And NO, I am NOT "angry" or looking for a "fight" I am just voicing an opinion/thoughts ha ha

And here you are again, talking to me. lol  You said yesterday you were done with me and you were not talking to me any more.  Seems you are the one who needs to ZIP IT.  Nobody yanked your chain but you seek out my comments and start coming at me.  smh  I do not know it that is more sad or funny.
Title: Re: Doctor who treated first US COVID-19 patient warns of second wave ‘as big as the
Post by: cateyes1 on May 18, 2020, 06:55:07 am
Bad idea on opening, it is waaaay to soon !!...And Countrygirl it is not fear monger it is FACT, I saw it first hand. You wont zip it until God forbid it happenes to your loved ones so go right ahead and blah blah blah all you want, talk to the hand. And NO, I am NOT "angry" or looking for a "fight" I am just voicing an opinion/thoughts ha ha

STOP commenting where I comment and I wont be notified anymore. I dont see YOU hitting any ignor buttons either. like YOU said it works both ways....NOW go away !!

And here you are again, talking to me. lol  You said yesterday you were done with me and you were not talking to me any more.  Seems you are the one who needs to ZIP IT.  Nobody yanked your chain but you seek out my comments and start coming at me.  smh  I do not know it that is more sad or funny.
Title: Re: Doctor who treated first US COVID-19 patient warns of second wave ‘as big as the
Post by: countrygirl12 on May 18, 2020, 07:13:23 am
Bad idea on opening, it is waaaay to soon !!...And Countrygirl it is not fear monger it is FACT, I saw it first hand. You wont zip it until God forbid it happenes to your loved ones so go right ahead and blah blah blah all you want, talk to the hand. And NO, I am NOT "angry" or looking for a "fight" I am just voicing an opinion/thoughts ha ha

STOP commenting where I comment and I wont be notified anymore. I dont see YOU hitting any ignor buttons either. like YOU said it works both ways....NOW go away !!

And here you are again, talking to me. lol  You said yesterday you were done with me and you were not talking to me any more.  Seems you are the one who needs to ZIP IT.  Nobody yanked your chain but you seek out my comments and start coming at me.  smh  I do not know it that is more sad or funny.

lol You need to get some help.  And you need to stop commenting in the middle of my comments.  You have the option to not be notified.  You also have the option to not respond. And FYI I did not say anything to you.  I replied to someone else and YOU stuck your face in the comment then in the other just commented about me.   YOU GO AWAY.  YOU are the one with a problem here.  If you do not want to see my comments hit the ignore button.  YOU are the one with an issue here.  YOU do not bother me.  WHY ??  Because YOU do not matter to me.  I actually find this funny.  SO keep it up.  I am enjoying the laugh.
Title: Re: Doctor who treated first US COVID-19 patient warns of second wave ‘as big as the
Post by: cateyes1 on May 18, 2020, 07:21:31 am
Bad idea on opening, it is waaaay to soon !!...And Countrygirl it is not fear monger it is FACT, I saw it first hand. You wont zip it until God forbid it happenes to your loved ones so go right ahead and blah blah blah all you want, talk to the hand. And NO, I am NOT "angry" or looking for a "fight" I am just voicing an opinion/thoughts ha ha

STOP commenting where I comment and I wont be notified anymore. I dont see YOU hitting any ignor buttons either. like YOU said it works both ways....NOW go away !!

And here you are again, talking to me. lol  You said yesterday you were done with me and you were not talking to me any more.  Seems you are the one who needs to ZIP IT.  Nobody yanked your chain but you seek out my comments and start coming at me.  smh  I do not know it that is more sad or funny.

lol You need to get some help.  And you need to stop commenting in the middle of my comments.  You have the option to not be notified.  You also have the option to not respond. And FYI I did not say anything to you.  I replied to someone else and YOU stuck your face in the comment then in the other just commented about me.   YOU GO AWAY.  YOU are the one with a problem here.  If you do not want to see my comments hit the ignore button.  YOU are the one with an issue here.  YOU do not bother me.  WHY ??  Because YOU do not matter to me.  I actually find this funny.  SO keep it up.  I am enjoying the laugh.

Laughing is good for times like this, i'm glad I can do that for you :) you're welcome......FYI, YOU are not the only one on this thread so why would I shut off notification???????????? just to make YOU happy, I dont think so....no need for a responce unless you looooooooooooove hearing from me :)
Title: Re: Doctor who treated first US COVID-19 patient warns of second wave ‘as big as the
Post by: countrygirl12 on May 18, 2020, 07:29:23 am
Bad idea on opening, it is waaaay to soon !!...And Countrygirl it is not fear monger it is FACT, I saw it first hand. You wont zip it until God forbid it happenes to your loved ones so go right ahead and blah blah blah all you want, talk to the hand. And NO, I am NOT "angry" or looking for a "fight" I am just voicing an opinion/thoughts ha ha

STOP commenting where I comment and I wont be notified anymore. I dont see YOU hitting any ignor buttons either. like YOU said it works both ways....NOW go away !!

And here you are again, talking to me. lol  You said yesterday you were done with me and you were not talking to me any more.  Seems you are the one who needs to ZIP IT.  Nobody yanked your chain but you seek out my comments and start coming at me.  smh  I do not know it that is more sad or funny.

lol You need to get some help.  And you need to stop commenting in the middle of my comments.  You have the option to not be notified.  You also have the option to not respond. And FYI I did not say anything to you.  I replied to someone else and YOU stuck your face in the comment then in the other just commented about me.   YOU GO AWAY.  YOU are the one with a problem here.  If you do not want to see my comments hit the ignore button.  YOU are the one with an issue here.  YOU do not bother me.  WHY ??  Because YOU do not matter to me.  I actually find this funny.  SO keep it up.  I am enjoying the laugh.

Laughing is good for times like this, i'm glad I can do that for you :) you're welcome......FYI, YOU are not the only one on this thread so why would I shut off notification???????????? just to make YOU happy, I dont think so....no need for a responce unless you looooooooooooove hearing from me :)

You need some serious mental help.  Guess you LOOOOOOOVE talking to me too since you talk about me all over these threads to your boyfriend and can't seem to let a comment go by, made by me, with out responding. ::)
Title: Re: Doctor who treated first US COVID-19 patient warns of second wave ‘as big as the
Post by: cateyes1 on May 18, 2020, 07:35:08 am
Bad idea on opening, it is waaaay to soon !!...And Countrygirl it is not fear monger it is FACT, I saw it first hand. You wont zip it until God forbid it happenes to your loved ones so go right ahead and blah blah blah all you want, talk to the hand. And NO, I am NOT "angry" or looking for a "fight" I am just voicing an opinion/thoughts ha ha

STOP commenting where I comment and I wont be notified anymore. I dont see YOU hitting any ignor buttons either. like YOU said it works both ways....NOW go away !!

And here you are again, talking to me. lol  You said yesterday you were done with me and you were not talking to me any more.  Seems you are the one who needs to ZIP IT.  Nobody yanked your chain but you seek out my comments and start coming at me.  smh  I do not know it that is more sad or funny.

lol You need to get some help.  And you need to stop commenting in the middle of my comments.  You have the option to not be notified.  You also have the option to not respond. And FYI I did not say anything to you.  I replied to someone else and YOU stuck your face in the comment then in the other just commented about me.   YOU GO AWAY.  YOU are the one with a problem here.  If you do not want to see my comments hit the ignore button.  YOU are the one with an issue here.  YOU do not bother me.  WHY ??  Because YOU do not matter to me.  I actually find this funny.  SO keep it up.  I am enjoying the laugh.

Laughing is good for times like this, i'm glad I can do that for you :) you're welcome......FYI, YOU are not the only one on this thread so why would I shut off notification???????????? just to make YOU happy, I dont think so....no need for a responce unless you looooooooooooove hearing from me :)

You need some serious mental help.  Guess you LOOOOOOOVE talking to me too since you talk about me all over these threads to your boyfriend and can't seem to let a comment go by, made by me, with out responding. ::)

My boyfriend? what ever you say, just WOW !!....now will you please stop responding !!!!!!!!!!!! and you say I need help  control yourself I know you adore me but come on this is getting ridiculous. if you respond I will take the high road and be the one to put an end to this....unless you like talking to the "mentaly ill ...tot tot
Title: Re: Doctor who treated first US COVID-19 patient warns of second wave ‘as big as the
Post by: countrygirl12 on May 18, 2020, 07:39:20 am
Bad idea on opening, it is waaaay to soon !!...And Countrygirl it is not fear monger it is FACT, I saw it first hand. You wont zip it until God forbid it happenes to your loved ones so go right ahead and blah blah blah all you want, talk to the hand. And NO, I am NOT "angry" or looking for a "fight" I am just voicing an opinion/thoughts ha ha

STOP commenting where I comment and I wont be notified anymore. I dont see YOU hitting any ignor buttons either. like YOU said it works both ways....NOW go away !!

And here you are again, talking to me. lol  You said yesterday you were done with me and you were not talking to me any more.  Seems you are the one who needs to ZIP IT.  Nobody yanked your chain but you seek out my comments and start coming at me.  smh  I do not know it that is more sad or funny.

lol You need to get some help.  And you need to stop commenting in the middle of my comments.  You have the option to not be notified.  You also have the option to not respond. And FYI I did not say anything to you.  I replied to someone else and YOU stuck your face in the comment then in the other just commented about me.   YOU GO AWAY.  YOU are the one with a problem here.  If you do not want to see my comments hit the ignore button.  YOU are the one with an issue here.  YOU do not bother me.  WHY ??  Because YOU do not matter to me.  I actually find this funny.  SO keep it up.  I am enjoying the laugh.

Laughing is good for times like this, i'm glad I can do that for you :) you're welcome......FYI, YOU are not the only one on this thread so why would I shut off notification???????????? just to make YOU happy, I dont think so....no need for a responce unless you looooooooooooove hearing from me :)

You need some serious mental help.  Guess you LOOOOOOOVE talking to me too since you talk about me all over these threads to your boyfriend and can't seem to let a comment go by, made by me, with out responding. ::)

My boyfriend? what ever you say, just WOW !!....now will you please stop responding !!!!!!!!!!!! and you say I need help  control yourself I know you adore me but come on this is getting ridiculous. if you respond I will take the high road and be the one to put an end to this....unless you like talking to the "mentaly ill ...tot tot

YOU stop responding!  But we both know you won't.  You said yesterday you were not talking to me any more.  I get up this morning and have like 3 responses from you. Not counting the random comments you made where you mention me. 

And you have done nothing but respond to me all morning.  If it makes you think I adore you then go right ahead and live in have that delusion. 

Title: Re: Doctor who treated first US COVID-19 patient warns of second wave ‘as big as the
Post by: calendria on May 18, 2020, 09:27:22 am
Doctor who treated first US COVID-19 patient warns of second wave ‘as big as the first' as states ease lockdown and fears US does not have resources to handle it

* Dr George Diaz treated his first COVID-18 patient in Washington state in January
* He used the anti-viral drug remdesivir to quickly treat the now-recovered victim
* Dr Diaz has revealed he is worried about easing shelter-in-place restrictions
* He says a second outbreak of the deadly virus could be just as bad as the first

The doctor who treated the first COVID-19 patient in the United States said yesterday that he fears a second outbreak of the disease when lockdown measures are lifted and doesn't know if the country has the resources to handle it again.

Dr George Diaz treated his first coronavirus patient, diagnosed in January in Washington state, with remdesivir, an experimental anti-viral the US approved for emergency use on Friday. 

Despite the drug's apparent success when the patient recovered Diaz said isolation is still the 'most effective' treatment and he worried 'when the economy starts to reopen, we are going to see a second outbreak that is perhaps as big as the first'.

'The first one was very difficult for us and for the whole world,' Díaz told reporters during a video meeting organized by the State Department.

Since that first case in January, the US has overtaken all other countries to have by far the highest caseload - about 1.2 million - as well as the most deaths, around 69,780.

Despite forecasts of a worsening death toll, some states are already reopening to try to ease the economic strain of lockdown orders that have put more than 30 million Americans out of work in six weeks. 

Remdesivir, made by Gilead Sciences, was shown in a major clinical trial to shorten the time to recovery in some coronavirus patients.

Diaz said that, pending development of a vaccine, remdesivir appears to act against the virus, but he cautioned that the drug must be used very wisely.

It should not be a crutch for people to say, ''I can now do whatever I want because we have a treatment". No,' Diaz warned.

They must continue to follow guidance on social distancing, he said.

On Monday two staggering coronavirus projections were released including a private model by the Centers of Disease Control and Prevention pulled together in chart form by the Federal Emergency Management Agency.

They said the daily death toll of COVID-19 will reach 3,000 cases daily on June 1.

That number is nearly double the current level of 1,750 deaths a day from the disease.

When asked about the leaked projection, president Donald Trump told the New York Post: 'I think it’s – I think it’s false, I think it’s fake news.'

The White House said that the leaked projection had not been 'presented to the coronavirus task force or gone through interagency vetting.'

Also on Monday The Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation at the University of Washington (IHME), which is often cited by the White House, released new models that forecast a death toll prediction of 134,475 fatalities by August 4, a major jump from its previous prediction of 72,433 deaths.     

The spikes in the two models are linked to relaxed social distancing measures and increased mobility as states start to reopen businesses.

These projections are considerably higher than previous estimates, representing the combined effects of death model updates and formally incorporating the effect of changes in mobility and social distancing policies into transmission dynamics,' The Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation at the University of Washington said.

IHME director Dr. Christopher Murray said factors that contribute to the heightened death prediction includes states adding presumptive COVID-19 deaths to their statistics and outbreaks in meatpacking plants across the nation. 

Now, he says, the nation needs to worry about how reopening states might compound those numbers even further. 

'I think the challenge for us all is to figure out what's the trajectory of relaxing social distancing on a measured pace that will protect us from big increases or even a full-scale resurgence,' he said to CNN.

After COVID-19 arrived to the US in January, businesses across the country soon shuttered and the economy began to stagger as confirmed cases – and deaths – spiked at unprecedented levels.

By March, the US had the largest number of infections in the world, even eclipsing China, where the virus originated in the city of Wuhan in December last year. 

In recent weeks, restless state officials have slowly peeled back restrictions, led by Georgia, in response to a number of stay-at-home protests.

The southeastern state took another step towards a full restart by letting all businesses reopen from Friday. Large crowds of people were seen in Atlanta on Sunday as shelter-in-place orders expired and businesses opened.

In Florida, which has seen 1,300 deaths and 36,000 infections among its 21.5 million residents, retailers and restaurants opened their doors at a 25 percent capacity.

While some beaches across parts of the state were allowed to reopen last month, Clearwater Beach in Tampa officially reopened to the public before sunrise on Monday morning.

Police removed 'closed' signs from barricades at 7am to the cheers of the 50 or so people waiting to step on the freshly groomed sand. Clearwater police have a large presence patrolling the beach and are urging people to socially distance.

Cafes along the beach also reopened with eateries allowed to resume dine-in services as long as they have outdoor seating and can ensure appropriate social distancing. 

Medical practices can also resume elective surgeries and procedures as part of the state's phased reopening.   

Movie theaters, bars and fitness clubs will remain closed for now. 

Governor Rick DeSantis has left existing restrictions in place across Miami-Dade, Broward and Palm Beach counties - the three most highly populated in the state.

DeSantis had drawn criticism for waiting until April 2 to clamp down on commerce - after most other states had already done so - in part because of Florida's high proportion of elderly residents - more than a fifth are age 65 and over - who are especially vulnerable to the virus.

But Florida, a key swing electoral swing state, appears to have avoided the worst of the health crisis seen in other states such as New York and New Jersey.

The highest daily number of infections occurred on April 17 with just over 1,400 new cases.

New daily infections have been considerably lower since then and only increased above 1,000 on April 23 and May 1. The highest daily deaths occurred on April 28 with 83 deaths and fatalities appear to be on the decline since then.

The state does not appear to have met all the White House's guidelines for reopening, which include 14 days of declining cases and contact tracers to track infections.   

Health experts are now concerned that warmer weather could prove to be challenging to manage coronavirus as restaurants, hair salons and other businesses reopen across the country. 

In New York City, the warmest weather yet this spring caused picnickers and sunbathers to flock to green spaces in Manhattan, including crowded conditions at the Christopher Street Pier in Greenwich Village.

Last week, California ordered beaches in Orange County to close, after crowds defied public health guidelines to throng the popular shoreline. Police in the county's Huntington Beach said people were complying on Sunday. 

Scott Gottlieb, a former FDA commissioner, said on Sunday the country was seeing a 'mixed bag' of results from coronavirus mitigation efforts.

He said there were about 20 states seeing a rising number of new cases including Illinois, Texas, Maryland, Indiana, Virginia, North Carolina and Tennessee. Virginia reported a record number of deaths on Sunday.

'We expected that we would start seeing more significant declines in new cases and deaths around the nation at this point. And we're just not seeing that,' he said on CBS' Face the Nation.

'If we don't snuff this out more and you have this slow burn of infection, it can ignite at any time.'

It comes after the US economy recorded its worst first quarter since the 2008 financial crisis this year, according to new data released on Wednesday which paints a clear picture of the economic havoc the coronavirus pandemic has caused.

A report released by the Bureau of Economic Analysis on Wednesday morning reveals GDP fell by 4.8 percent annualized between January and March.

Consumer spending fell by 7.6 percent and business investment shrank by 8.6 percent.

The data is not final and in a footnote the bureau said the true picture is likely far worse. Analysts had predicted that GDP might shrink by as much as 3.5 percent.

What Is Remdesivir & Does It Work Against Coronavirus?
Remdesivir was developed by Gilead Sciences to treat Ebola, the deadly hemorrhagic fever that emerged in West Africa in 2014.

Ebola, like COVID-19, is caused by a virus, and scientists are now testing remdesivir to treat coronavirus patients, but it's too soon to know if the drug works or not. 

Remdesivir produced encouraging results earlier this year when it showed promise for both preventing and treating MERS - another coronavirus - in macaque monkeys.

The drug appears to help stop the replication of viruses like coronavirus and Ebola alike.

It's not entirely clear how the drug accomplishes this feat, but it seems to stop the genetic material of the virus, RNA, from being able to copy itself.

That, in turn, stops the virus from being able to proliferate further inside the patient's body. 

NIH researchers in charge of the macaque study recommended that it move ahead to human trials with the new coronavirus.

Scientists have listened, and human trials for remdesivir first began in Nebraska.

Most recently, researchers trialing the drug at the University of Chicago reported that most of the 125 COVID-19 patients they'd teated with the drug had been discharged from the hospital, according to Stat News.

Two patients died over the course of the trial.


Now show me the patent# !!!


 (I'm following the $$ money on these new drugs!)   See Below - This is a picture if the virus (yellow spots covering the cell)
next - 6 types of virus Third - Avian flu virus   see how unorganized the covid19??


Remdesivir

Antiviral Medication

Remdesivir is an antiviral drug, a novel nucleotide analog prodrug. It was developed by Gilead Sciences as a treatment for Ebola virus disease and Marburg virus infections, though it has subsequently also been found to show reasonable antiviral activity against more distantly related viruses such as respiratory syncytial virus, Junin virus, Lassa fever virus, and MERS-coronavirus. Remdesivir was rapidly pushed through clinical trials due to the 2013–2016 West African Ebola virus epidemic crisis, eventually being used in at least one human patient despite its early development stage at the time. Preliminary results were promising and it was used in the emergency setting for the 2018 Kivu Ebola outbreak along with further clinical trials, until August 2019, when Congolese health officials announced it was ineffective compared to other treatments such as mAb114 and the Regeneron-produced REGN3470-3471-3479 also called REGN-EB3-. It may also help protect against Nipah and Hendra virus infections as well as coronaviruses such as SARS, and potentially 2019-nCoV infections.

Quote:
Preliminary results indicate that patients who received remdesivir had a 31 percent faster time to recovery than those who received placebo. Specifically, the median time to recovery was 11 days for patients treated with remdesivir compared with 15 days for those who received placebo. Results also suggested a survival benefit, with a mortality rate of 8 percent for the group receiving remdesivir versus 11.6 percent for the placebo group.

https://nihrecord.nih.gov/2020/05/15/nih-trial-shows-drug-speeds-recovery-advanced-covid-19


Title: Re: Doctor who treated first US COVID-19 patient warns of second wave ‘as big as the
Post by: ghunter on May 18, 2020, 10:11:12 am
We all need to pray about this and pray it does not happen
Title: Re: Doctor who treated first US COVID-19 patient warns of second wave ‘as big as the
Post by: cateyes1 on May 18, 2020, 12:16:46 pm
We all need to pray about this and pray it does not happen

Amen !!
Title: Re: Doctor who treated first US COVID-19 patient warns of second wave ‘as big as the
Post by: ktheodos on May 18, 2020, 12:25:44 pm
It will definitely be a while before COVID goes away, and it's sad that so many have died and people continue not to follow directions. I think most people have learned their lessons though and that most people will follow guidelines to prevent a terrible second wave.
Title: Re: Doctor who treated first US COVID-19 patient warns of second wave ‘as big as the
Post by: countrygirl12 on May 18, 2020, 12:45:14 pm
It will definitely be a while before COVID goes away, and it's sad that so many have died and people continue not to follow directions. I think most people have learned their lessons though and that most people will follow guidelines to prevent a terrible second wave.

The "first wave" is not over. Has nothing to do with "following directions".  Maybe it depends on where you live.  We have a handful of total cases in my county. We have like 2 active cases as of yesterday. No new cases today. Have not checked the stats on recoveries.  Nobody ever really stopped going to town. People can't just sit in their homes. Most of us have to work. People who are retired or on welfare can sit at home but somebody has to work.

I don't think people realize how many hands are in the fire for getting your crap you buy off the store shelves or even have delivered to your home.  What if ALL those people went home as well?  How many people are fully prepared to lock down like a prison confined to their homes? NO ONE works. No doctors, no police, no medical at all, no one at the electric companies, the internet and cable companies, no one stocking shelves, no one making products any where (now you know why people bought up the tp) no delivery drivers, no mail brought to your house, no one working at banks (there goes your monthly check), no one any where.  We all just sit in our homes for 2-3 weeks.  DO YOU REALLY think that is going to make a difference?
Title: Re: Doctor who treated first US COVID-19 patient warns of second wave ‘as big as the
Post by: JediJohnnie on May 18, 2020, 01:04:20 pm
Originally the concept was "flatten the curve." We shut things down in order to not put pressure on hospitals and what happened? Thousands of ventilators that were demanded & not needed (now on their way to India) Emergency military hospital ships to provide beds for the overwhelmed emergency rooms-never needed. While hospital personnel are staging performances of Porgy & Bess the the hallways of ghost town hospitals. And yet we're still on lockdown.

The whole thing was overblown. Time to end the fraud.
Title: Re: Doctor who treated first US COVID-19 patient warns of second wave ‘as big as the
Post by: Drutts0643 on May 18, 2020, 07:35:57 pm
Originally the concept was "flatten the curve." We shut things down in order to not put pressure on hospitals and what happened? Thousands of ventilators that were demanded & not needed (now on their way to India) Emergency military hospital ships to provide beds for the overwhelmed emergency rooms-never needed. While hospital personnel are staging performances of Porgy & Bess the the hallways of ghost town hospitals. And yet we're still on lockdown.

The whole thing was overblown. Time to end the fraud.
MAGA!!!LOL!!!
Title: Re: Doctor who treated first US COVID-19 patient warns of second wave ‘as big as the
Post by: nannycoe1 on May 19, 2020, 09:45:20 am
I believe we might have a second wave and it will never really be cured
Title: Re: Doctor who treated first US COVID-19 patient warns of second wave ‘as big as the
Post by: berthabutt on May 19, 2020, 02:42:11 pm
Just inject some clorox bleach into your veins!!!  We'll all be cured overnight!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!                MAGA!!!!!   Bahahahahaha!     :pumpkin: :turkey:
Title: Re: Doctor who treated first US COVID-19 patient warns of second wave ‘as big as the
Post by: dinkydawes on May 19, 2020, 02:54:33 pm
Just inject some clorox bleach into your veins!!!  We'll all be cured overnight!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!                MAGA!!!!!   Bahahahahaha!     :pumpkin: :turkey:
or take a malaria drug daily.
Title: Re: Doctor who treated first US COVID-19 patient warns of second wave ‘as big as the
Post by: Donnamarg323 on May 19, 2020, 03:10:20 pm
Just inject some clorox bleach into your veins!!!  We'll all be cured overnight!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!                MAGA!!!!!   Bahahahahaha!     :pumpkin: :turkey:
Trump really might need that wall now.......to hide behind it....LOL!!

Bible scripture,Beware those standing might just fall looking pretty good now eh?
Title: Re: Doctor who treated first US COVID-19 patient warns of second wave ‘as big as the
Post by: sfreeman8 on May 20, 2020, 12:32:44 pm
I love it when they test new drugs and they say "_____________ had a ____% recovery rate  than a placebo. Well, I sure hope so. Placebos aren't drugs. They're sugar pills. It would be miracle if a placebo cured a disease.

Also, the latest news is the number of deaths is being adjusted downward because hospitals were counting natural deaths and other deaths like cancer and heart attacks as COVID-19 deaths when they weren't. It also turns out that most deaths are taking place in nursing homes, not out in the public, which shows that it affects those between 85-100, in which COVID-19 could be a secondary cause.  In my county, we've had 15 deaths, all nursing home residents.  Those younger than 85 positives are usually caretakers in the nursing homes. We are well below the DOH benchmark, yet the governor refuses to allow us to open because our officials requested to open and he got very vindictive. The Legislature wants the DOH to separate the numbers but nope. If separated, it would show that the county is good for reopening like the counties around us.  Even a county with more than 1000 positives and over 200 .  deaths can reopen, but not our county.

It's sad when vindictiveness is part of a government body's rules and it shouldn't happen. 
Title: Re: Doctor who treated first US COVID-19 patient warns of second wave ‘as big as the
Post by: sfreeman8 on May 20, 2020, 01:06:23 pm
Just inject some clorox bleach into your veins!!!  We'll all be cured overnight!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!                MAGA!!!!!   Bahahahahaha!     :pumpkin: :turkey:

Sorry, but Trump never said that. He did question  Bryan Bill Bryan, Under Secretary for Science and Technology at DHS when he talked about the effects of sunlight, heat, humidity, and certain disinfectants on the half-life of the coronavirus. “We’ve tested bleach, we’ve tested isopropyl alcohol on the virus, specifically in saliva or in respiratory fluids, and I can tell you that bleach will kill the virus in five minutes,” Bryan said. “Isopropyl alcohol will kill the virus in 30 seconds on the ultraviolet light.

Pelosi claimed at a press conference that  “The President is asking people to inject Lysol into their lungs, and Mitch is saying that states should go bankrupt.  It’s a clear, visible, within 24 hours, of how the Republicans reject science and reject governance.” She said to inject Lysol into their lungs TWICE.

Title: Re: Doctor who treated first US COVID-19 patient warns of second wave ‘as big as the
Post by: gabesmom15 on May 20, 2020, 01:11:16 pm
If people would stay home and be cautious they wont get COVID-19 and they wont get a second wave
Title: Re: Doctor who treated first US COVID-19 patient warns of second wave ‘as big as the
Post by: countrygirl12 on May 20, 2020, 01:34:09 pm
Just inject some clorox bleach into your veins!!!  We'll all be cured overnight!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!                MAGA!!!!!   Bahahahahaha!     :pumpkin: :turkey:

Sorry, but Trump never said that. He did question  Bryan Bill Bryan, Under Secretary for Science and Technology at DHS when he talked about the effects of sunlight, heat, humidity, and certain disinfectants on the half-life of the coronavirus. “We’ve tested bleach, we’ve tested isopropyl alcohol on the virus, specifically in saliva or in respiratory fluids, and I can tell you that bleach will kill the virus in five minutes,” Bryan said. “Isopropyl alcohol will kill the virus in 30 seconds on the ultraviolet light.

Pelosi claimed at a press conference that  “The President is asking people to inject Lysol into their lungs, and Mitch is saying that states should go bankrupt.  It’s a clear, visible, within 24 hours, of how the Republicans reject science and reject governance.” She said to inject Lysol into their lungs TWICE.



He never said to inject cleaners in to your body.  He, as you said pointed out, said how these disinfectants can kill the virus in under a minute. Could we not do the same thing with "something" where you inject it in to the body and it would kill the virus.  The haters are stupid and are going to use anything they can and twist everything he says. At this point all you can do is feel sorry for them and ignore them.  They are too twisted to even try to explain anything to them.

This whole thing is about much more than some random virus with a 98% survival rate.  I am thankful that more and more people are waking up and realizing that.
Title: Re: Doctor who treated first US COVID-19 patient warns of second wave ‘as big as the
Post by: timvolley on May 21, 2020, 08:25:27 pm
i would not be surprised if we get a second wave of this.  we still have over 2000 cases today and we have had over 100000 in illinois
Title: Re: Doctor who treated first US COVID-19 patient warns of second wave ‘as big as the
Post by: ancmetro on May 21, 2020, 11:35:05 pm
   Are you ready if Covid-19 comes back again?
Title: Re: Doctor who treated first US COVID-19 patient warns of second wave ‘as big as the
Post by: hawkeye3210 on May 22, 2020, 02:19:40 pm
Why we need to not open yet .........................https://www.newsweek.com/texas-reports-highest-single-day-rise-coronavirus-cases-state-continues-push-ahead-reopening-1504659

That's what happens when you increase testing. You are going to get more positives. That's not an argument for staying shut.
Title: Re: Doctor who treated first US COVID-19 patient warns of second wave ‘as big as the
Post by: hawkeye3210 on May 22, 2020, 02:24:54 pm
If people would stay home and be cautious they wont get COVID-19 and they wont get a second wave

This isn't a feasible solution. People need to work and live.
Title: Re: Doctor who treated first US COVID-19 patient warns of second wave ‘as big as the
Post by: nmbrown863 on May 22, 2020, 04:44:13 pm
I sure hope there isn't a second wave but there probably will be.